TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP

Some people we know seem to have too many bad personal days so they falsely try to take it on those around them..  Those unacceptable persons, the oppressors, bullies, abusers, control freaks, liars, slanderers, jungle fighters.. who are clearly still even lost.. they need to change themselves solely and not work on changing  the others.

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 SADLY MANY PERSONS GO TO EXTREMES , DEVELOP  FALSE VALUES, STILL LIVE IN UNREPENTANT SINFUL ACTS.. SO GOD DOES NOT HEAR THEIR PRAYERS  

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(Micah 2:8 KJV) Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/

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(Rom 12:18 KJV) If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

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(Heb 12:14 KJV) Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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(2 Cor 13:11 KJV) Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

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(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

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(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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THE BIBLE ALSO GIVES US PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF PERSONS WHO WERE TOO QUICK TO SPEAK AGAINST OTHERS.. Human beings have this tendency to get the wrong values or to  go to false inbalance, extremes as well in real life..

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as helpers, pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well.  (Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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It is an accurate assessment that 80 percent of all persons suffer from having a very poor self worth, a poor self esteem of themselves and they feel guilty, depressed over it, not knowing what to do cause their humanistic endeavors at self improvement tend to fail them..

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Likely 20 percent of all persons are a TROUBLE MAKER, they are an aggressive bully while the rest, 80 percent are a TIMID SHEEP, over fearful, overly submissive. We often do meet the loud mouthed trouble makers in many places, such as on the net, on the street, in churches now too but we also do encounter those overly timid, overly fearful, cowardly persons sadly now.

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Most people fail to realize that they do even still now need to have a balance of their life of being “assertive”, as well as being “submissive”, and being unbalanced in one or the other is not a positive aspect still as well. And what about you now too? what are you realy like.. overly asssertivae or overly submissive..

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It is very likley that 20 percent of persons tend to have an exaggerated  opinion of themselves, an unreal  one, and they think they can readily teach others meaning acting like basic dictators, lords. oppressors over others, they are actually bullying others? In the process both of these inbalanced groups tend to try to teach others when clearly they themselves still do  have a lot to learn.. and the bullies need to take the beam out of their own eyes.. including learning humility.. for God realy still hates the proud hearted persons..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/

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It has been amazing to me that, as I look back into my own life, half of the oppressions I have witnessed in my life, and any oppression all of it tends to be an unacceptable human rights abuse now too, all oppressions are still unacceptable , these oppressions now came from the least expected places, from the Bullies within the church , even from bad pastors, bad elders, bad deacons, and also within my related control freaked or despotic family members, all now proving to me that many of these professing Christians persons were still not real Christians in fact. The other half of the oppressions, and all of it too was unacceptable, came from fellow employees, bad contacts, acquaintances, neighbour, civil and public servants, cops, RCMP.

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Being nice. kind, friendly to a really bad person is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser..

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In fact it is next impossible for anyone to try to to change others.  Dealing effectively with the bad Person, Stressful person- Alcoholics, Bullies, Abusers, Control freaks  http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/dealing-effectively/

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Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.

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Num 16:1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men: 2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown: 3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD? Num 16:31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: 32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. 33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. 34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.

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(Prov 14:29 KJV) He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.

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(Prov 15:18 KJV) A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

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(Prov 16:32 KJV) He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

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(2 Pet 2:10 KJV) But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

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(Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

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(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

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(Psa 145:8 KJV) The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. (Nahum 1:3 KJV) The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

.. TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP or are you really Holy Spirit filled , led..

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Do also see

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/oppressors-or-bullies-are-always-unacceptable/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

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My top posts of 2014

Note this that my Christian, spiritual blogs get the most  readers, and this is not surprising  

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The Louvre Museum has 8.5 million visitors per year. This blog Come Holy Spirit was viewed about 110,000 times in 2014. If it were an exhibit at the Louvre Museum, it would take about 5 days for that many people to see it.  The busiest day of the year was October 15th with 954 views. The most popular post that day was 7 Spiritual anointings, 7 Spirits of God. and the 2nd most popular post  was The Holy Spirit’s anointing

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Madison Square Garden can seat 20,000 people for a concert. This blog  Hot Discussions  was viewed about 67,000 times in 2014. If it were a concert at Madison Square Garden, it would take about 3 sold-out performances for that many people to see it. The busiest day of the year was December 18th with 1,166 views. The most popular post that day was PEOPLE WHO DISOBEYED GOD IN THE BIBLE and the 2nd most popular post  wass Jews, Israel, Arabs and Jesus Christ, the Bible  

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Other popular Christian posts were  “Son of Man” is a title that Jesus used of himself,  CHRISTIAN POSTERS- BIBLE, HOLY SPIRIT, Christian attitudes towards drugs, smoking and alcohol , Bad Pastors, bad deacons, bad elders = bad church . what does the word chosen mean in the Bible?  , The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible ,  The Dangers of the Hebrew Roots Messianic Movement, Now why was Jesus even so angry with the Pharisees

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Jesus himself gets all the credit.

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Matthew 7
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

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Matthew 10
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

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Matthew 16
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

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Mark 8
15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.

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Mark 12
38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

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Luke 12
1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

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Luke 20
46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

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Acts 13
40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

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Philippians 3
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

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Colossians 2
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

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2 Peter 3
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

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2 Peter 1:5-8 For this very reason, put forth all earnest effort to supply to your faith virtue, to your virtue knowledge, to your knowledge self-control, to your self-control endurance, to your endurance godly devotion, to your godly devotion brotherly affection, to your brotherly affection love, For if these things overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Are you a real Christian,

(Rom 1:16 KJV)  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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   (Mat 19:29 KJV)  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 

NOW REALLY IS THERE A QUCIK IMMEDIATE, SIMPLE WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN OR IS IT A LIFE TIME PROCESS? AND WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP THAT I NEED TO TAKE? BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, READ THE BIBLE, PRACTISE IT AND PRAY, DO GOOD WORKS?

Jesus died for sinners on the cross, was buried, and rose from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4). His death was a sacrifice that turns away the wrath of God (1 John 2:2). This is the only way to be saved.

Jesus is the one who died for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). He is the only way to the God the Father (John 14;6). He alone reveals God (Matt. 11:27). He has all authority in heaven and earth (Matt. 28:18). It is only through Him that you can be saved from God’s wrath (Eph. 2:3). He can forgive you of your sin (Luke 5:20; Matt. 9:2). He can remove the guilt that is upon your soul. Jesus can set you free from the bondage of sin that blinds your eyes, weakens your soul, and brings you to despair. He can do this because He bore sin in His body on the cross (1 Peter. 2:24) that those who trust in Him would be saved. Jesus Christ now is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9), physically risen from the dead, Lord (Luke 24:34; John 2:19-21) and Savior (Acts 5:30-32). He came to die for sinners (Rom. 5:8) to deliver people from the righteous wrath of God upon us.

How do I firstly become a Christian?

Firstly unless you  admit you are an unholy person, a sinner before God and you  see your personal need of Salvation by Jesus Christ, but  next also give  all you own, have, and are, to the Lord Jesus Christ you will not become next a real Christian.. and that includes you giving up your  own plans, goals, ambitions, agendas, desires, aims..  One is a fool anyway who tries to keep what he cannot..   One also cannot become a Christian by having a negative attitude toward life, other religions, being an abstainer, refraining from drinking, smoking, swearing, adultery, idolatry, or kindred sins. Any sinner who stops sinning on his own is a sinner still. What he or she still needs is to become inside a new person, with a changed, cleansed heart, and a godly nature but the Holy Sprit of Jesus Christ alone does this if you meet his perquisites, requirements, conditions.

A FULL HONEST SALVATION GOSPEL INCLUDES now you accepting BOTH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR AND ALSO JESUS CHRIST AS HOLY SPIRIT BAPTIZER.

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The word christos means a person   HOLY SPIRIT  anointed  . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit, one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too.

Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”

But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27

Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,”

Disciples of Jesus Christ were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because evidentially their behavior, activity, and speech were anointed, Christ like. (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

The definition of a real Christian varies depending on who you talk to, and what type of church they attend as well.. but what did Jesus, the Apostles say a real Christian was, is? The devil even believes Jesus, God exists so what!! Being a Christian is more than your present personal head Knowledge, or beliefs, it is still a real, initial and personal experience with Jesus Christ like Apostle Paul had on the road to Damascus

Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: :4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? :5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. :6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. 19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus. 20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

If you are not a Christian, and want to be delivered from the righteous judgment of God upon you due to your sin against Him, then come to the One who died for the sins of the world. Come to the One who died for sinners (Matt. 11:28). Admit, confess, Turn from all of your sins. Believe and trust in Jesus. Receive Jesus, who is God in flesh, who died and rose from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4) as your personal Lord and Savior. Ask Jesus to forgive you now of all of your sins. Receive Christ (John 1:12). Only He can wash you clean from your sins and only Jesus can deliver you from the righteous judgment of a holy and infinite God. Pray to Jesus. Seek Him. Ask Him to save you. He will if you come to him humbly, sincerely and repentantly.

Now no one can make himself to be a real Christian. No, not by quantities of their good works or trying to live a moral life of the highest quality, not by their church attendance, water baptisms, good citizenship, higher education, charitable giving, burning candles, reciting prayers, amount of prayers, or even their studying the Bible, their Knowledge of the Bible now too, or thousands and one things of similar nature. Do you understand also this?

Are you now a real Christian, or a pretender, imposter still?   Sadly too Fundamentalist ,Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Charismatics, and other Protestants tend now to define “Christians”innclude only those persons who have been “born again”  negelcting them filled with the  Holy Spirit as well Fundamentalist Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Charismatics, and other Protestants tend now to define “Christians” very more narrowly to include only those persons who have been “born again” regardless of their present denomination. About 35% of the North American adult population identify themselves in this valid way. By some definitions, 75% of Americans are nominal Christians; but now by the other more valid definitions it is only about 30 percent are the real Christians. As simple as that too..

In recent decades, however, the real Christians have begun discerning the other true Christians from mere professing believers less by denomination and more by actual beliefs, not just by their personal religious commitment. “It’s a question of the heart: Has someone turned away from his own good works attemopts to make it to heaven and rather has put his trust in Jesus Christ to attain this and does he believe in the Full Gospel of Jesus that the Bible portrays?”

do see also http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/are-you-a-real-christian-or-a-pretender-imposter-still/

Unlike each of you, my own mind did not know, comprehend beforehand what God has in store, had prepared for us, or his requirements for us even to become a Christian, as well as to become Baptized in the Holy Sprit and much more.. Yes the True Christians even these days Are Holy Ghost Baptized and they know they have received such a personal experience.. even as evidenced by speaking in tongues

Keep in mind, there are two distinct phases of the one baptism in Christ. Jesus says in John 3:5 that ”Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” I repeat, water baptism is repentance, and spirit baptism is Holy Ghost fire and power. When we are truly Born Again (John 3:3), which is the Phase One baptism, there is a change in us that radiates on the outside of us, enabling all to see that something different has occurred in our lives. When we are truly Born Again, there is a new attitude towards The Lord Jesus Christ, toward His Word which becomes Spirit and life in us (John 6:63), making us, IF we will surrender, Believers who walk in of His Word. As one truly Born Again, we have a new attitude toward other Believers, toward prayer, toward life in general, toward death, and toward sin (hating it with a passion). When we are truly Born Again, dead to the old order in our lives – we start anew by not doing the things we used to do (nightclubs, alcohol, smoking, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, winking our eye at sin around us, cheating, stealing, lying, and so on).

The Holy Spirit of promise is the Spirit of truth that first removed the scales of darkness from our eyes and unstopped our ears so that we could then see and hear The Lord and come to accept the Gospel of salvation – Jesus the Messiah. We heard about Jesus, believed what we heard, and gave our lives to Him, but this was just the beginning work of the Holy Spirit of promise that Jesus spoke of before His death – but not all. Now that we have been transformed from darkness (sin/the world) to light (Christ, righteousness/faith, holiness), the work of the Holy Spirit continues. The Holy Spirit of promise guides us into the truths of the Word of God that we are to accept and believe in full (not partial), and act upon by walking in His Word. In being Born Again, the Word of God begins to open up to us, which is the Holy Spirit of promise kindling a hunger and thirst in us to want to go higher – to want to really please The Lord by way of our faith and obedience unto Him. This is part of the process of going beyond the “sealing” because we feel the necessity for or have the need for, something more in our walk with God. This is when being able to worship Him in spirit and in truth comes in; it fills that “something more” in our walk with God – it supplies that hunger down inside

Listen Up! Acts Is Speaking To You

he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire… (Luke 3:16).

This fire is God’s electrical charge in the spirit of the Believer – baptism in the Holy Ghost – Holy Ghost power. This is God’s presence and the instrument of His power.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses [the Word of God coupled with miracles, signs, and wonders] unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth (Acts 1:8).

This power is miraculous work through Jesus Christ for the Body of Christ/the Church to be witnesses of God’s existence and love. You, the Church, cannot be a true witness, especially during the end time harvest, without that “fire” that Christ baptizes with. Without it you are kidding yourself and you have been for a long time. “Playing church” is what you’ve been doing. (Being without Holy Ghost baptism is why the Body of Christ is in such deep apostasy and has been for hundreds of years, but super worse now.)

God’s Holy Spirit takes control of your life because you now have totally surrendered your will and His Holy Spirit is now in you, possessing you. Aside from wanting and asking for Holy Ghost fire baptism, it is imperative that you first be a broken and willing vessel with an obedient spirit as Acts 5:32 speaks of…

And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost whom God hah given to them that obey him (Acts 5:32).

Beloved, Paul repented of his sinful ways and got his sight back, and was filled with the Holy Ghost by the laying on of Ananias‘ hands. It was this Holy Ghost fire baptism that equipped Paul to do the great work of The Lord’s to the Gentiles. This same Holy Ghost fire baptism is a must for you as a Believer, to enable you to worship God in spirit and in truth, be faithful/righteous, be obedient, and live and work in the Kingdom.

SEE ALSO

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/true-christians-are-holy-ghost-baptized/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/behold-the-lamb-of-god-jesus/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

God still speaks outside of the Bible as well

 

 

Sadly too many Christians too are so busy working and also so worrying about how to change the others, but are they themselves firstly now even walking in the right path? 95 percent of Christians do not read the Bible or pray more than 5 minutes a day shows the basic Christian problem here too

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Many persons lie and say God basically was no longer involved in the things of this world, and/or that there was no’s such things as God personally speaking to us where we can hear his voice, where have a direct conversation what him, and there were no miracles of healing, no baptism of the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit, no holy spirit gifts . Boy where they really really wrong here too.

Imagine now instead that you too even can actually hear God’s voice and his specific instructions to you instead of hearing your own voice and the lusts of the flesh or the Devil’s voice

It is amazing that when want an immediate confirmation of God’s will in anywhere, I pick  up the phone (the Holy Bible) and next I Talk to him and Listen to Him as well while I am reading the Bible and he specially replies.

TOO  MANY PEOPLE FALSELY LIE AND SAY, CLAIM THEY HAVE FAITH IN GOD, BUT THE REALITY OF THAT CLAIM LIES IN THE ACTUAL DEGREE OF PERSONAL FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE NOW.

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As Jesus himself had said.. John 15:1    I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

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HOW EASY IS IT TO HEAR GOD’S VOICE.. THAT  MORE I DESIRE TO HEAR HIM THE EASIERT IT IS THAT SO DO.. AS GOD SAID IF YOU SEEK ME WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART YOU WILL FIND ME. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/how-to-be-filled-with-the-holy-spirit/

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To the experienced, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that  the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well..
 
(Psa 31:3 KJV)  For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name’s sake lead me, and guide me.
 
(Isa 49:10 KJV)  They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
 
(John 14:17 KJV)  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
 
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
 
(John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
 
(1 John 4:6 KJV)  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
 
We all still  CONTINUALY DO NEED TO  trust the Holy Spirit as the main Teacher given by God to internet and to make His word clearer to us.
 
“God then began to show me that the word of God alone is our standard of judgment in spiritual things; that it can be explained only by the Holy Spirit; and that in our day, as well as in former times.  He is the Teacher of His people.  The office of the Holy Spirit I had not experimentally understood before that time. It was my beginning to understand this latter point in particular, which had a great effect on me; for the Lord enabled me to put it to the test of experience, by laying aside commentaries, and almost every other book and simply reading the word  of God and studying it. I learned more in a few hours than I had done during a period of several months previously.”  George Müller (1805-1898) 

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Romans 8:1 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.3 …For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you .

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Firstly what laws did the people follow now before Moses , or what laws of God were applicable  before Moses to all?

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Between the time of Adam and Moses, everyone also still sinned. They were mostly still ignoring God, going their own ways, doing things. God did not want them to do. God’s law existed, even though really they had not been written down, and everyone was transgressing it. Therefore, death ruled over them all, even if they did not break a specific command in the way that Adam did.

They followed or disobeyed the laws of the Holy Spirit.

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All normal humans have a conscience, a natural inbuilt sense of right and wrong. This is what Paul refers to in Romans 2:14-15. By nature, God has written a moral sense, a law, into human hearts. Their understanding of right and wrong is not perfect, but every sane person has at least a basic concept of right and wrong, of love and selfishness. Although everyone falls short, some people do have good behavior as compared to others. By nature, they do things that are required in God’s law — not the rituals of Moses, but the more general requirements of the law that existed before Moses.

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Next the laws of Moses were still only applicable to all Jews, not the gentiles..  laws like “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”  Leviticus 20:13  

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Gentiles they still followed or disobeyed the laws of the Holy Spirit.

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WHEN JESUS CAME HE CLARIFIED WHAT OLD TESTAMENT LAWS WERE NOW APPLICABLE TO ALL PERSONS, JEWS AND GENTILES

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So let’s first see some biblical examples of how easy it is to miss God.

-Jacob went to sleep unaware that he was literally lying over the very gateway of heaven (Genesis 28:11-17).

-Young Samuel could not distinguish the Lord’s voice from that of the man he served every day (1 Samuel 3:4-5).

-Multiplied thousands of people rubbed shoulders with the Son of God. They heard teaching like no one had ever given. They saw miracles that took their breath away. And almost none of them had a clue as to who he was.

-For miles, the resurrected Jesus walked and talked with two of his disciples, and they never realized who was speaking to them. ‘ . . . they were kept from recognizing him.’ The moment they discovered who it was, he vanished (Luke 24:13-31).

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But we all still do have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear.

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 Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others, or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and often rather making it a lot worse.

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There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: thinking the Bible is solely the Word of God,  There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: by thinking the Bible is the Word of God alone, and thinking that all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer solely  to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God  personally speaking to you. If you don’t also listen to the Voice of God, you will never really  grow; you will never know from what to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God or his will and plan for you; and you will not have any final reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ. You will never make it to Heaven but still only to Hell.

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You can memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, and it will gain you nothing with God. It is easy to read the Bible. It often feels good to read the Bible, as long as you discount all the requirements such as holiness, perfection, and purity while ignoring the disqualifications of anger, lust, immorality, impurity, greed, etc. The Bible wasn’t even printed until 1516, but the early church thrived for 300 plus years without it. Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. For he calls us all to repentance, Christhood, and the Kingdom of Heaven.

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Hear this! Understand, the Bible is not the Word of God, for the many scriptures that refer to the Word of God are not referring to the Bible, but rather to the voice of God or the Lord – his words from him, the living spirit Word – otherwise you are looking to the wrong source of growth – a book, instead of God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26. He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

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And this is why placing the Bible as the sole emphasis in worship is not only  inadequate (the crumbs under the table), but potentially heretical (the  Pharisees pride in biblical knowledge).

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Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat 4:4

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 There is no valid, real spiritual life without hearing words from the mouth of God.

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Many persons have a godly desire to serve the lord to become Apostles, Prophets pastors-teachers, evangelism, elders. The best way they can prepare themselves for this is firstly giving themselves all unto God and learning to hear God speaking to them.. Surprising ring how many professing Christian people do not still hear God personally speaking to them. Tragic that most so called Christians don’t hear the voice of God and are not really led by him at all. As they definately don’t wait upon the Lord including Pentecostals.

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(1 Sam 3:10 KJV) And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant hearth.

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In our fast food, take control society Nobody wants to wait. It would be easier to quit on a need than wait.

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But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 40:31  The Lord is saying to us that if we wait upon Him, we will not be tired, we will not be frustrated, and all of His tasks will be accomplished in the perfect amount of time;

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How can I be more spiritual? How can I tap into the hidden wisdom of God that will bring forth my breakthrough? The key is hearing God’s voice behind His written Word.

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To identify God’s voice, we must actively communicate with Him. If we want to hear from Him, we must fellowship with Him through regular praise and worship, even by meditation on His Word and our consistent prayers. 

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Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now.. The other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.

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As Believers who have been Baptized with the Holy Spirit, we can also speak to God by praying or speaking in tongues. Through praying in the Spirit, we speak the very mysteries that could unlock the answers to the situations we face in life! By speaking in tongues and praying for the interpretation it we get divine revelation Knowledge imparted by God directly to each one of us. There is something miraculous powerful that happens when we spend time communicating with God, praying in tongues. It is often during these quiet times that we do even hear the voice of God speaking truth and wisdom directly from Heaven.;

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I also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one.. Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes mutual communication. The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance. We still cannot make our on views, experience now still as God’s rule for everyone else. But many people do. Some people wrongfully do claim that God today can only speak to each one of us personally, to all of us through his written Word the Bible, cause that is all they have experienced maybe? but in fact I am very sure that these very same people God often cannot still even personally reach them firstly even by his Word… you know that is why so many people read the Bible and have different interpretations, doctrines, denominations even cause it is really not God who is talking to them through it… mere man is or self or the devil.. And yet many Bible scholars, pastors who know the Bible are blind to God’s truths and yet they know the Word on the outside.. their real inadequacy is that they really still do not, did not know God on a deep personal level, they have not communicated with Him and thus they are still in the wilderness themselves still. It is one thing to know the Word, but it is another thing to know the Author himself. How well do you know the author, not just his writings?

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Some people sadly are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and they will fail at it still too. (Psa 66:18 KJV) If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: That iniquity can still be operating in the the kingdom of self.. If any will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23 

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“There was a day when I died;

died to self, my opinions, preferences, tastes and will;

died to the world, its approval or censure;

died to the approval or blame even of my brethren or friends;

and since then I have studied only

to show myself approved unto God.”

(George Mueller)

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He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6

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Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.

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Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways.

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There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all God’s general will.

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There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular situation. We have to be open to both ways too.

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(John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

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The manner of God speaking to us through Scripture has much not to do with what we are we mainly desire to know, or what personally are dealing with at the time but what he wants to reveals to us.

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We are always slaves, servants of God who listen to his will, his instructions above all. But don’t personally read into the Bible as to what is being said rather first listen to Him, God, the Holy Spirit explaining next the scriptures to you personally. Allow the Scripture to “leap off the page” at you, as receive his divine revelation, and His Bible passages take on a meaning that you hadn’t noticed maybe even a moment earlier. There can be a passage of time between the initial reading of logos before it becomes rhema . One might as well read the same Scripture over and over again, and then next one day it “speaks”. This act of divine speaking, revelation of God through his Word is called “rhema” in the original Greek language of the New Testament.

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The WHOLE Church is to also encourage the personal development of gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophecy. I was surprised to read it is not just only today that some people object to anyone prophesying… it is still the devil who is behind this objection.. he does not want anyone to know, experience the power of God

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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

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(1 Cor 14:13 KJV) Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (And no exceptions now too)

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(Num 11:24 KJV) And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

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(1 Cor 14:26 KJV) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible they often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.

(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

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I can remember one time I was really depressed standing in the hall by a door and I openly had said to God that if Heaven is like hell on earth then I do not want to go to heaven.. God immediately, immediately spoke to me and said Heaven is nothing at all like hell or earth for nothing evil, bad will ever enter into Heaven.. Men have often disappointed me here on earth, but God does not let us down, we are blessed in full when we have a relationship with him. (John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

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I have seen a lot in the last 50 years, MANY REAL miracles too, but I have noticed often now too that absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing brings me as much joy AS when Jesus talks to ME, in fact HIS TALKING TO ME it often next becomes an overflowing stream of joy and peace.

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The false demotion of the Holy Spirit is sadly a reality amongst too many Christians is still demonically inspired as well ..

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True Christians believe that God reveals himself through more than the inspired words and thoughts and books. Words and thoughts and books, even when they are divinely inspired, are inadequate to reveal God’s person. What distinguishes us as Christians is that we believe that God revealed Himself uniquely in Jesus Christ.

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The Bible still is not superior to Jesus and the Bible is not equal to Jesus as divine revelation.

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Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation. To the experience, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well.

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The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life now next turn even to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Spirit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They instead now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, Jesus alone, himself.

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For example: “The Mainstream Baptists have repeatedly warned that Southern Baptists were being led into Bible idolatry… the Living Word of God is being subordinated to the written word. The Bible has become an idol and the uniqueness of Christian revelation has been undermined.Sadly even other denominations, groups are really falsely also now doing the same wrong things.. for there is great danger that most of these persons will subordinate the Living Word of God to the fallible interpretations of men, the false worship of mere men, objects too…

(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

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(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

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(Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

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(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

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(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

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We all are told to come to Jesus directly..

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 God’s voice and spiritual gifts are not the only thing the devil blinds many people too;;

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see also
http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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Follow after God alone and not mere man… God still speaks too …

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 There are many different voices available to us today to listen to still, even the voice of the enemy, the devil and his followers.. or own voices and finally God’s voice. Learning how to listen to and listen daily, continually to God’s voice is not optional too. Now God still speak to us through his word, the Bible, but God also still speak to us by His Holy Spirit as well. When you talk about what the scripture DO say you honestly should mean how you interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..

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(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

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(Jer 6:16 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.

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But they said, We will not walk therein
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/learing-to-listen-to-the-voice-of-the-lord/

No abuse is acceptable.. Zero tolerance

Abused! How much abuse is acceptable? None!

Abused! How much abuse is acceptable? None! If you are being abused do not hesitate ASAP to expose it to all, to call the police, human rights courts, news media.

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And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Cor 13:3 KJV)

Matt 32:29 You shall love your neighbour as yourself.. and that means you will do him no harm now too.

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And who are these abusers? why is is that they so readily abuse others now too? They tend to be persons who have their own value system, and clearly also a lack of love for others, and a lack of love for their jobs now as well. In case you did not notice it I do not accept any physical, verbal, mental, human rights abuses by anyone of anyone and I rightfully do instead demand their full, open exposure and public prosecution now as well and no matter who they are, Prime Minister, Premier, MP, MNA, MLA, MPP, Doctors, lawyers, cops, pastors, etc..

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Yes Abuse is something we all often encounter and do not know how to deal with it? Well do not hesitate to call the police, the news media and report it..

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1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

Romans 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

1 Corinthians 13: 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

James 1: 19    Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20    For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21    Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23    For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24    For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25    But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26    If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27    Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too..The abuser too often tries to make the victim look as they are guilty ones, and that too is always unacceptable http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/abused-how-much-abuse-is-acceptable-none/

‘Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the really bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as   to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

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There are many types of Unacceptable abuses too. Recently in a five month period I had almost daily encounter with geriatric hospitals and old age homes and I was shocked NOW OFTEN to find out that there were poor, pretentious, inadequate hospitals and bad old age homes, in contrast with the well managed, kind, decent, effective, good  hospitals and good old age homes, and I started to wonder why there was such a glaring, vast difference.. and of course “money the root of all evil” had come into the pictures, for those managers who were more concerned about making more money, getting a raise, PROMOTION, advancement,  now also  too readily allowed the patients to be wrongfully abused!     http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control–freaks

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Did you know that sibling rivalry, abuse is one of the most common forms of family violence? Siblings will use physical violence because they have learned it from their parents, a bad mother or a bad father,  or other adults. In fact, one study found that 76% of the children who were repeatedly abused by their parents also abused their siblings.. and their spouse next too

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Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too.. ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ?

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One of the thing that has caught me by surprised were the proposed solutions for the abuse.. some were really unacceptable, such as accepting the abusers and merely forgiving them when God himself does not.. anyone doubt this, look at God’s Punishment of the Apostle Paul specially for his past abuse of the Christians now too.

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Acts 19 10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. 11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, 12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. 13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: 14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. 15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.

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I  also do know from observing others that anyone’s abusing a Christian can lead to one’s early death. I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible  Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that

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“Coptic Christians & Persecution. 6 days ago, Coptic Christians in Cairo experienced an attack while protesting restrictions that have been put on building churches as well as protesting an attack on a church in southern Egypt. My daughter’s friend, Sarah, a journalist, had an eye-witness account of the event as it occurred at a large building that houses Egyptian radio and television, Maspero. Her account brought tears to my eyes. ” http://communicatingacrossboundariesblog.com/2011/10/16/coptic-christians-persecution / .

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Yes sometimes it is ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ?  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/why-does-the-canadian-government-try-to-sleep-with-the-murderers-because-of-the-oil-still/  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-continually-bad-rcmp/

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I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that

Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too.

Everyone needs to set boundaries on what is acceptable behavior. No verbal abuses, no bullying, no lying, no foul languages, no hitting or other violence should be allowed. Another step parents can take to prevent abuse between siblings is to model their own respectful behavior in your family. Children learn how to interact with others by observing them.

Hate and Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse. Hate, Verbal or physical abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too …

Now I too have learned the great secret in helping bad people to personally repent or to change their wicked ways.. the public exposure and the demand of their rightful prosecuting, dismissal of the same wicked persons, as well as their bad superiors, and generally best done not by a phone call, but rather done in writing, with many copies to the right parties, news media, ministers, elected officials and the general public next too even such as those you do eventually see on my web blogs

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

I have learned a long time ago that public exposure and prosecution of the abusers serves everyone’s best interests

Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.

The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also in religious fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON, POPULAR TOPICS, SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET is can a Christian next get divorced and remarried, and the simple answer is no! but wait do not stop reading yet.. if you are married, living to a demon, a control freak, a liar, a lazy good for nothing abusive person then please now do immediately get out of the marriage, do get an immediate separation.. and this not the kind of advice you would expect from a preacher of peace and love, but I am telling you all this for our own good, and you can thank me later.. and maybe next the still good for nothing bum, lousy spouse, he or she will wake up as to what she is really like and they may try to get help to change herself, himself.. but meanwhile don’t feel guilty about the peace you now have in your life.. By the way make sure first you are not the creepy, a good for nothing spouse yourself otherwise by your actions you will be doing your own spouse a great, great service. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/throw-the-bum-out/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

Isaiah 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. 2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God. 3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. 8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein. 9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there: 10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/promises-from-god-for-the-abused-oppressed/

Help in identifying-spiritual-abuse –

“First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership.

Second, the leaders of such churches often use manipulation to gain complete submission from their members.

Third, there is a rigid, legalistic lifestyle involving numerous requirements and minute details for daily life.

Fourth, these churches tend to change their names often, especially once they are exposed by the media.

Fifth, denouncing other churches is common because they see themselves as superior to all other churches.

Sixth, these churches have a persecution complex and view themselves as being persecuted by the world, the media, and other Christian churches. Seventh, abusive churches specifically target young adults between eighteen and twenty-five years of age.

The eighth mark of abusive churches is the great difficulty members have in getting out of or leaving these churches, a process often marked by social, psychological, or emotional pain.”

Abusive churches do not hesitate to kick out or to divorce people who do not go along with them

The Watchman Fellowship has identified five hallmarks of abusive religious systems. They are:

– Authoritarian: unconditional submission to leaders is expected.

– Averse to criticism: the person who dissents becomes the problem rather than the issue being raised.

– Image conscious: protecting the reputation of the leaders or church is more important than truth or justice.

– Perfectionistic: individual worth is determined by performance; there is no compassion for weakness or failure.

– Unbalanced: they will try to distinguish themselves from other groups by putting excessive emphasis on some minor point of theology.

Wikipedia notes that spiritual abuse “includes any of the following”:

– Psychological and emotional abuse

– Any act by deeds or words that demean, humiliate or shame the natural worth and dignity of a person as a human being

– Submission to spiritual authority without any right to disagree; intimidation

– Unreasonable control of a person’s basic right to make a choice on spiritual matters

– False accusation and repeated criticism by negatively labeling a person as disobedient, rebellious, lacking faith, demonized, apostate, enemy of the church or God

– Prevention from practicing faith

– Isolation or separation from family and friends due to religious affiliation

– Physical abuse that includes physical injury, deprivation of sustenance, and sexual abuse

– Exclusivity; dismissal of an outsider’s criticism and labeling an outsider as of the devil

– Withholding information and giving of information only to a selected few

– Conformity to a dangerous or unnatural religious view and practice

– Hostility that includes shunning (relational aggression, parental alienation) and persecution

http://hevencense.wordpress.com/church-abuse/

I TOO still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

(Prov 27:2 KJV) Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

(1 Cor 14:33 KJV) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

(James 3:16 KJV) For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/

Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies

WELCOME TO THE VERBAL ABUSE SITE http://www.verbalabuse.com/

Jesus helps us to recover even from the bad Church abuses, bad pastors too..

see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/dispensationalists-plymouth-brethren/

… You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free..

 

Amazing

 Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,

the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.

 
Secondly it is amazing how many so called Christian Internet Discussions sites are still control freaks, ostriches with hidden agendas and they do not post the Responses that show them truly in an unfavorable light..

 
(1Pe 1:22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
(1Pe 1:23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
(1Pe 1:24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
(1Pe 1:25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

 

Karl said 1 hour ago:  Looks like I cannot post anything here anymore. The owner of this blog prefers only people who share his views.  http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/to-oneness-heretics-the-meaning-of-colossians-29/

 

Mind you there is a difference between unfair censorships and regulating appropriately the inadequate spews, comments..  but never the less let the prophets speak and let the other’s judge..

 

(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

 

And those we love we talk to them, but those we do not love we tend to talk about them..

 

>>The Catholic Church is accused of intolerance yet we see comments get deleted just because the owner of this blog can’t bear the truth. Should one, then, suppose that the rest are telling the truth seeing that their comments are not deleted ?

The Catholic Church is accused of intolerance and yes you can add to that lying, twisting the Bible, truths too.. but so does the non catholic churches do thaT now too..

There is still a difference between censorship and rightfully regulating inappropriate comments.

Since the net first came out now I too have had my comments deleted on many sites, Christian – evangelical, non evangelical, catholic ones and non Christian ones – Jewish’s, Muslims, and even the general, political ones as well.. for some people are ostriches who do not want to face the negative truths, and/ or have a hidden agenda and they do not like anything that distrust their agendas. So to solve it I just same make the posts on my own sites, and someone still tried to censor some of them, including the bad cops..

No even the Catholic or the evangelical church these days is far from perfect.

I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part  Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too  and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false  add on to the Bible, New testament.

 

 The real truth is that the even evangelicals do now have many major faults of their own they need to deal still to do as well, and not just solely pick on the Abortionists, Catholics, Cults, gays, etc., Even the evangelicals fight amongst themselves and we see this in the common ungodly war between Pentecostals and non Pentecostals too.

Sadly Bashing others, uplifting one group or self over others is very popular on the net, in churches too and is known as bullying, done even by the Pastors, priests, Christian and non Christian persons but it is still unacceptable. I expect to the people do it in false pride to make themselves feel better, but very shortly they next again become depressed still because after all it is still an immoral act that needs to be repented off.

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

As for “It is only in this world that we can find a created being who has power to forgive the sinner, who can free him from the chains of sin and hell; and that extraordinary being is the priest, the Catholic priest. “Who can forgive sins except God? Was the question, which the Pharisees harshly asked. “Who can forgive sins?” is the question that the Pharisees of the present day also ask: and the answer is, There is a man on earth that can forgive sins, and that man is the Catholic priest. This because the priest is the ambassador of God (1 Cor 3:9).”

Now there is no way I can believe that at all too.. or that Virgin Mary is a deity, part of the trinity, speaks to people today.. Believe it or not I too have met many Mary worshippers in the Catholic church myself lately who were sexually immoral, even a lesbian cult too. Their forgiveness for me rightfully does not mean much when they basically cannot even change themselves.

Me I am not a catholic, or a protestant, but a true Believer in Jesus Christ, a Christian.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/am-i-therefore-become-your-enemy/

>>You are not alone, I too, came dangerously close to switching faiths ; I almost threw in my lot with one of them countless born-again churches that daily seem to spring up everywhere. But there was something utterly detestable and repulsive about these sects that kept me away. Today, am glad that I stayed away because they are like a cancer. I also fail to understand how anyone can believe the so-called “speaking in tongues.” I once asked someone whether he really understood a thing when people “speak in tongues”. He answered in the negative but said that those filled with the Holy Spirit do. I then asked him, who these holy spirit-filled people are. He said that he did not know.

There was a day when I was a child and I too could not understand it

Me I speak in tongues when led by the Holy Spirit and I need too and I am one of these holy spirit filled persons.

After I pray or speak in tongues I pray for the English discernment as well so I can understand it as the Bible commands we should and I do get it as well. It is often revealing, surprising as to what I have prayed, said too. I was in a church when the pastor had finished his sermon, and I had next given a tongue prophecy.. ” My servant has preached my message and has rightfully called you to repentance, BUT you have refused to come, shall I here announce your sins to all” next dozens of people rush to the church alter for repentance..

(Eph 5:19 KJV) Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

(Eph 5:20 KJV) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Eph 5:21 KJV) Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

  http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

>Does anyone here know how the JW cultists get around the Greek here in order to maintain their blasphemous belief that Jesus Christ was an incarnation of the archangel Michael?

 

They lie, they add to the word of God, and to the  GREEK, and they claim they have used a translator’s privilege to actually reinterpret the Bible passages to get the point of view they want..

 

and it seems ACTUALLY many other people do that too anyway, they also even do pick and chose the Bible passages to suit their own point of view in many cults, sects, Christian denominations…

 

so they lie to themselves basically firstly and if you do that you are headed in a really bad direction cause you often start to believe your own lies next too.

   

2: I found these comments really appropriate on a site that discussed our need to daily read the Bible.

 

“A true conversation, of course, involves both talking and listening. Most of us do better with the talking part. I used to be so occupied doing the Lord’s work that I had no time to pay close attention to God’s voice. I preached six times a week, taped two television programs, traveled across the nation, wrote books, pastored the church, and administrated a large church staff and broadcast ministry (among other daily duties). I spent time talking to God, very often about the needs of my personal life and ministry—but not much time listening to God. I ended up in the hospital for a week and out of circulation for three months. If we don’t learn how to listen to God, we can make unwise and very costly mistakes.” 

(Col 2:9 KJV) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

(Col 2:10 KJV) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

You are complete only in Him too.

All of our souls are in great danger of being swallowed by this formidable tide of apostasy and corruption, which is devastating the Church, churches and never mind the world because many people have submitted to the lusts of their carnal flesh, as well to the call of the devil and the world undeniably.

Two of my continual shocks in life the last 5 decades amongst many others now too now are as to how many evangelical pastors now basically are still ungodly and how come they wrongfully do not repent of this?

Secondly in the last 5 decades 50 percent of once loudly professing evangelical Christians undeniably depart by their own choice from the faith even admittedly

I am of the opinion that many people look at past Christian History to overcome the God shaped vacuum they presently do have in their life too.. and there are many reasons now even for this – them specifically not being led today by the Holy Spirit.. even that they are rather doing their own thing, or they are in deliberate willful sins, or they are pride, or they are abusing others or their spouse even by cheating, lying to and stealing from them, amongst many other reasons. I like what I had read years ago.. God has not moved! Did you?

I admit I was in shock, in anger about 3 decades ago when for the first time some one said God can talk directly to you personally, I found that initially unbelievable, even as to why I had not heard him before.. too busy talking and not quietly listening to him firstly too.

Ever notice how so many professing Christians do a lot of talking, but rarely quote any Bible verses in reality, seems they too still want to still hear themselves do all the talking and not God rather.

(Rom 6:6 KJV) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

(1 Cor 1:23 KJV) But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

(1 Cor 2:8 KJV) Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

(2 Cor 13:4 KJV) For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

(Gal 2:20 KJV) I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(Gal 5:24 KJV) And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

(Gal 6:14 KJV) But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 

http://withoutwax.tv/2008/06/16/continue-the-conversation-sync-part-3/    “Responses to “Continue The Conversation (SYNC-Part 3)”  This is something that I struggle with…being a Pastor and growing up in a Pastor’s home, at times I have found myself coasting on the knowledge I have gained throughout the years. I have made a more then conscious effort as of late to make reading the Word “the” priority of my day. It is unreal what God is revealing to me….

  

It has to be for me to stay on track. I know it sounds like an over-simplification but Dwight L. Moody said it best. “The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible.”

  

 I love “and I ‘rested’ in the Lord rather then ‘doing’ quiet time. I’m trying to get my quiet time out of the homework category. I don’t want to view it as something I just need to check off my list. I’m hoping to get some time this week to just absorb the Scriptures instead of just reading them!

 

(Phi 2:5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
(Phi 2:6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
(Phi 2:7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
(Phi 2:8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
(Phi 2:9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
(Phi 2:10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Phi 2:11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I read in a book one time that we should pray that God would make His Word a delight to us. I prayed that for a long time. It is a delight to me now. 

 

God’s words are truly life to me right now. I have always been one to journal (and I still love it) but things are different now. because of my life circumstances I need god more than ever before. and because of that it is an ongoing “meeting” we have throughout the day instead of a set “quiet time”. I really want my health and marriage restored but without these circumstances I wouldn’t know god the way I do. I NEED to know what HE is saying to me through his word and I love it.

 

If I were honest with you, I would tell you that I cannot remember the last time I had a quiet time.
Honestly.
And if I continued to be honest with you, I would tell you that I also have not been to church in like the past month.
Are the two related. Probably.

 

I don’t have profound revelation usually when I read the Bible. But I still do it daily. Some days I don’t want to take a shower or get out of bed, but I do it because I need to. Same with the Bible. If I don’t do it I might miss out. I hate to be out of the loop. Even when I don’t get chills or cry or feel all good inside I know that the Lord is dropping wisdom right into my heart. That is why I read the Bible daily. My prayer life is much stronger in my quiet time than my Bible references. But I can tell you the stuff I read gets stuck inside and when I need it it’s there. I usually cannot tell you what book, chapter, or verse. How much does that matter? It’s the wisdom and knowledge that God imparts upon my being that matters. Even if it feels like a chore, my advice is to do it anyway. You don’t have to read a whole chapter. Just pick a psalm or a proverb. Start small and work your way up. You’ll be blessed for your efforts.
  

This is a GREAT topic of conversation!  I have only been a Christian for about 7 years and over these past 7 years, I have found that my walk with Christ has been filled with peaks and valleys. If I wasn’t at a peak, I was at a valley. It was never constant. Then I realized something.when I was reading His Word daily, I was peaking and when I wasn’t..down to the valley I would go. Now, I’m at a constant. I am in His Word every day! I have to be. Now, don’t get me wrong. There are still peaks and valleys, but they are not extreme. I am no longer on the roller coaster ride. I have fallen deeper in love with Christ and yearn, daily, to know more of God’s character. I am surprised and amazed every day by what He is showing me. Little nooks and cranny’s that I have never seen before. It’s truly incredible. It’s like the first time you realize you’re in love with someone, but better.

  

If a plant does not get water, or enough of it, it first wilts, dries up and then dies. This is so true of us! We NEED the water of His word to THRIVE and GROW.:-)

  

It is. If I’m not in the Word and dedicated time for spending time with the Lord in the morning, my day is awful. Well, I should say I am awful. I’m out of sorts, quick to find fault, easily annoyed, the list goes on. It is amazing to me how totally different I am when I am walking in the Spirit instead of racing along in my flesh. And I am so thankful that those “awful” days are far and few between. Praise Him!

  

It amazes me how comforting God’s word can be in facing life’s problems. I am facing a financial problem that will, without doubt, affect my life for many years to come. While “trying to figure it all out” yet again this morning, I started reading the Psalms and ran across a scripture that said ” My times are in God’s hands.” The worry melted away immediately! This is not a coincidence for me. God’s word has given me comfort when I needed comfort, strength when I felt weak, courage when I felt defeated, hope when all appeared lost, and joy when hurt turned into tears. God’s word reveals promises that I can count on, and wisdom when all seems confusing. The truth is that I can’t think of a reason not to spend time in God’s word! It is nourishment for my soul!”

 

>> Unfortunately, the Word is a struggle for me. I have had months where I have faced very similar things.. Firstly we al still have to eat, I still just merely read daily the Bible and have my quiet time, by faith trusting God is working on the oppressions too. Secondly I admit that I am a slave servant of Jesus Christ and most conflicts firstly tend to be caused by me trying to take my own charge, control of my life, wanting to do my own thing.. and upon surrender this to God  I continue to follow his will rather. God generally replies to me and says there will be days when you cannot seem to feel me, see me, just trust me I love you and I am still there holding your hand.     

LIke I have said often” Too many even professing Christian persons are still parrots, they have not really read the Bible for themselves, they really do not know the Bible or God for that matter still too.. they are repeating what others have told them, and too often often it is distorted truths, lies.. 

(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
(James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
(James 1:22 KJV) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

   
5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. 

 

 

Exemplary

 

 

Funny how some immoral persons, even if they call themselves Christians , have to resort to personal attacks on the writer, me, , when they cannot dispute the biblical truths, facts presented.. it is their own false alternative to avoid facing the truth about themselves firstly, the really big beam in their own eye.. and they are foolish enough to think I have to put up with it too.. if you lie to me, abuse me, I rightfully no longer talk to you for a start.. as simple as that… no matter who you think you are now, my mother, father, brother, sister, wife, my children , pastor, elder, etc..

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

 

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

NOW DUE TO MY POSTS I HAVE RECEIVED   BASHING EMAILS FROM MANY PASTORS NOW TOO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. HEY I HAVE SEEN ALL KIND OF ABUSES IN THE GOVERNMENTS, CHURCHES, CIVIL AND PUBLIC SERVANTS,   BY THE POLICE, RCMP, ON THE NET, IN FAMILIES AS WELL THE LAST 4 DECADES TOO, but public exposure and prosecution of the abusers,   the really bad persons serves everyone’s best interest still too.

 

No! I rightfully do not accept personally any abuses quietly, and neither does God, especially not from any Pastor!

 

and I have often rightfully said how can I now expect the government leaders to be exemplary?  when the many evangelical pastors I have encountered to date were not, not even the evangelical ones..

  

(1 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop ( a ruling elder) , he desireth a good work. 2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

 

(1 Tim 3:11 KJV)  Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

 

(Gen 6:9 KJV)  These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

 

(Rom 5:12 KJV)  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Rom 3:23 KJV)  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

 

And why am I so rightfully hard on the evangelical pastors you say? Well firstly they should know more and even behave better than the rest, and not rather be more unacceptable religious hypocrites. I have mentioned recently how  one Pastor had lied on the net, he rewrote what I had posted to him.. and next did not post my subsequent responses to him too? Did that stop me, dream on, I just posted the truth on my own many popular sites for everyone to know what he did, is like too,   but at least the same pastor showed me how immorally he really was now too by what he did. Was I disappointed yet? Yes. Was I really surprised? No? ” For there still is nothing good in man! It is not just the lay persons who need to daily repent of their sins but all pastors now as well, preaching the gospel is never an acceptable alternative to living it too. I too would rightfully rather see a sermon first lived than one merely hypocritically preached to me. The Word of God is also like a two edged sword, it applies to the preacher as well as the one being preached to.

 

(1 Tim 5:24 KJV)  Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

 

(1 Tim 5:25 KJV)  Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

 

(Prov 9:9 KJV)  Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.

 

(Prov 20:7 KJV)  The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him.

 

(Prov 24:16 KJV)  For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

 

(Eccl 7:20 KJV)  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

 

(Mark 6:20 KJV)  For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.

 

(Acts 10:22 KJV)  And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

 

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

 

(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

 

(1 Pet 5:1 KJV)  The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

 

(1 Pet 5:2 KJV)  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

 

(1 Pet 5:5 KJV)  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another (Mutual submission), and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6   Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

 

(1 Pet 5:7 KJV)  Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

 

(1 Pet 5:8 KJV)  Be sober ( Don’t get drunk now too) , be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9  Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

 

(1 Tim 5:22 KJV)  Lay hands suddenly on no man,

neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.

  

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly (Not drunk) , righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

 

(Eph 5:18 KJV)  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

(Eph 5:19 KJV)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

(Eph 5:20 KJV)  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Eph 5:21 KJV)  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

(Eph 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

(Eph 5:25 KJV)  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

religious abuse

Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons

Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap

And  why should I still  be so surprised that so many Chuuch Ministers too now are objectionably alcoholics and adulterers as well?

  Just cause 70 percent of pastors admitted to having done adultery  or counselling divorce, or 30 percent evangelicals commit   divorce does still not  mean any of them are getting away with any of it next too

as I have said many times before, even since the Garden of Eden, the devil still lies about the truth and he still says to you that you will not die if you disobey God’s law.. and he does that about lusts, stealing, alcohol, adultery, divorce or whatever.. to keep the people in bondage in their wrongful sins.. but Adam and Eve still paid a price for their sins next, so do we all..

(John 4:37 KJV) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

 

 

 

http://www.spiritwatch.org/relabuse.htm

 

http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/intro/

http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/i-can-say/

The Top ten posts read by many in the last Quarter.

 Me I am a straight forward shooter, and I do  try to be transperently honest in all of my posts too, which also causes me to lose the bad friends, and to make some enemies too.

 

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

 

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

The Top ten posts read by many in the last Quarter on this site https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/

 

Can anything good be spiritually imparted
Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship
alcoholism the unacceptable sin
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CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE
What is the general Christian sentiment
The Tithe
Trinity
Sickness & healings, Revivals
God’s triune nature

WordPress.com for sure has great religious interests, topics

(John 20:30 KJV)  And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

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The top ten posts now in this site  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/ are..

  

Bell Sympatico
Basic Contract law
Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church
Bell
Bell Sympatico Canada
CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE
The war against Bell
Bell Lied
About
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I was surprised in a comparison of my two wordpress.com  sites

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that the religious topics still tend to be at least 2 to 5 times as Popular,

 

and clearly one of the most popular discussion topic is the ungodly religious wars between the protestant, catholics, pentecostals and Bagiptists, bretheren, etc., and the topic of bad pastors.

 

 

 

 

 

and I was surprised as to how popular the Bell Sympatico posts are too  on boith sites too.

 

Am I therefore become your enemy

One mistake by a Catholic, Pentecostal, Charismatic preacher and it is undeniable, clearly seems even on the net too that the  other professing Christians  are quick and  ready to kill the wounded, to even bury them with further lies, distortions, slanders.. and what ever! The reaction of these still rather other bad guys is quite revealing, it firstly shows they have no love themselves too. That kind of approach won’t do much for the critics’ own positive feeling of  personal self worth, self esteem too. They clearly must really hate themselves next for doing so as  well.   So what happened to the Biblical instruction of personally showing love, staying humble, meek too?

 

(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.(Mat 5:5 KJV)  Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

 

(Mat 11:29 KJV)  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.(Mat 21:5 KJV)  Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.(1 Pet 3:4 KJV)  But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.(Heb 10:24 KJV)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:(Heb 12:3 KJV)  For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.(Rom 12:20 KJV)  Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.(Prov 24:17 KJV)  Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: 18  Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.(Gal 4:16 KJV)  Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

(2 Th 3:15 KJV)  Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

(James 4:4 KJV)  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

It is a sad known fact that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc., who seem to have been readying too many men’s commentaries should firstly now go back to reading the Bible and practice it themselves.. wrongfully seem to love to bash, hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that to fill that God shaped vacuum they they feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians do so as well.. they are certainly not being led by person of the Holy Sprit to do this.. but by the devil too.,, and you can tell that by their lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians..

Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor had told me what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. a bit just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the close relatives told me first hand a whole different story. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, had been even separated from his wife as well, and had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well..  Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.

 

Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..

 

Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.

Do see also https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots/

“Thank you for your comment. I will agree with you that it is important to live our lives as God desires for us too. One important point is simply that without reading God’s Word on a regular basis we cannot know exactly how to live.I do have on question for you: Where did you get the stat “70 percent of evangelical pastors are unChristian”? Just curious about that.”

 

I would not be so quick to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too.

 

Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too.

  

I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter.

But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open.

The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.

I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too.

I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too.

None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?

Now since you do really know your Bible you know that the Bible already says says that adultery is God’s punishment to those at whom he is upset at.. and I can think of many bad things that pastors do that upset God… this adultery is all so common and where have you been?

I was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.

I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.

When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not.

I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too

I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.

and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

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 Further  comments not needed for one cannot deny the truth.