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November 5, 2008

Obama triumphs, will be first black US president

 

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Obama triumphs, will be first black US president The Associated Press –  WASHINGTON (AP) – Barack Obama was elected the nation’s first black president Tuesday night in a historic triumph that overcame racial barriers as old as America itself.

John McCain’s White House bid: What went wrong?

 Tue. Nov. 4 2008 10:21 PM ET CTV.ca News  For the second time in eight years, Arizona Sen. John McCain failed in his bid to reach the White House. In the coming days and weeks television analysts, newspaper pundits, and political scientists will likely try to unravel the reasons McCain fell short this year. But a few key causes may already stand out.  There is little doubt that Barack Obama ran one of the best organized campaigns in U.S. presidential history, and the Democrat and his staff were largely responsible for McCain’s loss. But McCain, himself, did not help his cause. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081104/mccains_loss_081104/20081104?s_name=uselection2008

There was no doubt about it , it seems 80 percent of the news media supported  Obama.

Youth, blacks lead the way for Obama victory
Globe and Mail –  With a report from AP It was youth, women, blacks and first-time voters – mobilized by a Democratic machine that overwhelmingly wooed people to politics – who catapulted president-elect Barack Obama to victory last night.
Americans in Geneva witness “new dawn” Swissinfo
US voters hit the polls in huge numbers CBC.ca
International Herald Tribune – CTV.ca – Los Angeles Times – Telegraph.co.uk
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 Barack Obama wins presidency, making history
Los Angeles Times –  The Democrat breaks the ultimate US racial barrier with his defeat of Republican John McCain. By Mark Z. Barabak Barack Obama, the son of a father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, was elected the nation’s 44th president Tuesday, breaking the
Obama Wins Election New York Times
Obama wins, says ‘change has come to America’ Reuters
The Associated Press – Detroit Free Press – AFP
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More than 100000 cheer Obama in Chicago
Globe and Mail –  CHICAGO – Standing just beyond the crush of Barack Obama supporters in Chicago’s Grant Park, Mike Victor, a 57-year-old African- American commodities trader who has lived his entire life on Chicago’s South Side, watched as the impossible dream came
Obama owns election night in Chicago Xinhua
Obama campaign blazes to victory BBC News
Toronto Star – Aljazeera.net – Telegraph.co.uk – The Associated Press
all 1,197 news articles »

Obama (D) – 349 votes
McCain (R) – 147 votes
Barack Obama is the projected winner

Americans, Canadians jubilant in wake of Obama’s presidential win  Among curious Canadians and expatriate Americans alike, anticipation turned to jubilation Tuesday as those who gathered in living rooms, churches and pubs across Canada bore witness to Barack Obama’s historic presidential victory.


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Africans elated by first black US president
CNN International –  (CNN) — Celebrations erupted in Barack Obama’s ancestral home in Kenya and across Africa as the US Democratic candidate made history by being elected America’s first African-American president.
Kenya eyes US tourist boost after Obama win Reuters South Africa
Kenyans Rejoice in Obama Victory Washington Post
AllAfrica.com – The Associated Press – BBC News – CBC.ca
all 1,209 news articles »

 

 The Rise of the Religious Left. But clearly Obama still did not get the evangelical votes.

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October 27, 2008

Lies by the liberal news media

  

 Note this terminator has helped a lot of people to get a better job by firing them But i still can understand some people wrongfully now opposing it.

   
When I was  busy working as a professional engineer  I personally  had no time for or a real concept of how bad the real world is with it’s much too many liars, thugs, bullies, abusers, distorters, racists , thieves, now too.. and someone how next I could not help but encountered many of them, but by I had by now learned how to best deal with them.  It is a two fold approach, first the Public exposure, the pen is mightier than the sword, and a good name is worth more than any silver and gold. But next also there is rightful demand, a need  for their  termination of emeploybnment, their real prosecution of the guilty, bad persons.  Both of these approaches personally so works best, for everyone’s’ betterment. Ideally and rightfully I  do not hesitate to recommend any crook, bad minister, bad pastor, bad news reporter as well to be fired , terminated from his our her  job.  Sadly there are many people in this world who are hatred mongers, they have a false persistent agendas against some others, and they for many wrong reasons now wrongfully pursue much of their time in these matters now too foolishly and unwisely. Too often they the bad people firstly proclaim themselves as angels of lights, good Samaritans try to help others, but rather it too often seems they are merely trying to gain an advantage over others, and to promote themselves in some powerful, key job, economic, superior positions under these false agendas, disguise’s in all kinds of social groups now too, the religious, political, cultural, governmental. Now I really hate these types of snakes and I rightfully do not hesitate to expose them once I encounter them.
 
Now we all know that in north America we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be hard now as well.. Some people are now falsely abusing these right to promote a false war against a particular Christian group, the Pentecostal ones, or even the Catholic ones, etc. When I see this kind of unacceptable personal behavior I too do not accept it but do loudly object to it to all and do ask these hate mongrels be immediately fired, put in jail as well. No matter who they are now too.
  
“Sarah Palin losing her sway over Christian voters
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/thesearch/default.aspx
 
The Sarah Palin effect, which brought evangelicals and other Christians rushing on to the Republican wagon when her nomination was announced, is now fading. In some cases fast.
 
A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin, who has deep Pentecostal roots in Alaska. White evangelicals, the crucial group that got George W. Bush into the White House in the past two elections, are beginning to edge away from the Republicans. Their support has dropped from 74 to 67 per cent in the past week or so.
Meanwhile, pollsters are beginning to predict that mainline Protestants, who tend to be more liberal than evangelicals, are moving firmly to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. The Democrat contender is now attracting 48 per cent of mainline Christians’ votes. As well, non-Hispanic Catholics have also switched and are now leaning more to Obama-Biden than McCain-Palin.
 
Go here for Pew’s easy-to-read poll http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=349
 
Comment by todd — October 26, 2008 @ 8:13 pm 

Thanks for your input Todd, this is the second time you posted back to me on my blog, unusual for a news reporter to comment on my blog too.https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/#comment-1746#comment-1746

>>A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin

My personal straight forward, honest, personal summation, experiences of Politics, dealing with you, the Vancouver Sun as well, and pollsters… they are statistically just liars, biased, people with hidden agendas.. and I told you that now in writing too many times too.. I rightfully have no respect for what you write still about Christians, evangelicals and so do many others now too.

what about the polls that show 30 percent of white people will also not vote for a black persons? racisms exists in the churches and police stations now too.

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now..

But the fact that Sarah Palin is getting now so much free publicity attention even from the liberals, democrats it all next simply means when I see the devil breathing on her back, she must be doing something really really good

Any possible Christian support of Obama is another liberal, democratic, news media false spins.. just like the devil often dos the same thing.. I read many of their emotional, gushy, lying, slanderous , sewage posts, opinions, but they are spins, lies and not facts and the US news media has lost loads of credibity, CNN especially the big liars, in their slanted election presentations, and that fact is not unnoticed.. but that was the same complaint thing they had often said about the Canadian News media, CBC, under the liberals who lost next.. wow!

And basically too no true, real practicing Christian would support the clearly anti Christ Obama.. who does supports abortions, gay marriages, alcohol as well..

My site statistics undeniably do show Sarah Palin is the most read topic in the last few months of over 100 different subjects, topics on my 6 related blogs, and that support I encounter is the tip of the iceberg only.. 80 percent of the posts read are about her.

Even the Canadian PM Stephen Harper, and the federal election. Bilden, McCain, Obama do not get 10 percent of her attention too.. the undeniably crooked Christian Missionary alliance church got just as much attention now, 10 percent  as they all did as well.. note this a new runner up in reading POPULARITY is the bad RCMP, bad Traffic cops of Alberta next.

As I also wrote often to thousands, Canadian politicians and news editors too now.. The truth about the ungodly Pentecostals bashings, wars against the Pentecostals on the net, even by the Vancouver Sun now too, or anyone else… is that I also still do not have to accept it or put up with it still too,  it is  an unacceptable perversity, human rights abuse, immoral. And it better stop otherwise I too will have to write to a lot more people about it too.. very much more..

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/?s=bad+Pentecostals etc

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/the-declining-economy-and-the-federal-elections-are-the-voters%e2%80%99-top-concern/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/sarah-palin/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/unbeliveable/

 

October 18, 2008

many jump to conclusions, make opinions, before hearing all of the facts

       
 
How many times in the last decade as we seem to know too often has the news media  supported a  specific candidate who next had clearly turned out to be a really bad choice? and why was that?
 
Are they the news media, news reporters now still really the same even now like many of us, basically,  as well? Blind, they do not have all the facts before them honestly presented and viewed now too?
 
How many political leaders themselves now were able to successfully predict, or to see the election’s political outcome too next? and where even most of them too   wrong in their own predictions? Most of then too it seems.. and why was that? Biassed, or ignorant of reality? So how can even they lead all of others next still? Pretenders or Imposters?
 
Too many of us still wrongfully jump to conclusions, make biased, unsound opinions, note this even the news reporters and news media now included,  all made before we now have even heard all of the facts, and this is till really unacceptable, very, very dangerous too.. such an approach it can be really harmful.
 
THE DAY BEFORE THE RECENT CANADIAN ELECTIONS I SPOKE TO MANY VOTERS, WHO ON THEIR OWN LET ME KNOW HOW THEY HAD CERTAINLY THOUGH THE FEDERAL LECTIONS WOULD COME OUT.. AND WHY THEY HAD VOTED FOR THEIR CANDIDATE OF CHOICE. NONE OF THE CHOICES I HEARD WERE SENSIBLE, RATIONAL EVEN.. nor any of their own political  predictions.. many persons had told me their candidates were going to win, but they lost instead.. In reality even few people had tried to predict next a minority government, but I had said before that was what it next was going to be. And why now too? Even in writing. For I take a balanced view, and I look at the realistic facts.
 
Here related is something I have known long time before, most people are like dumb sheep, they are too easily, too often  swayed by bad politicians lies. And too many of us we seem to all agree that most politicians are the same nearly these days, they are all liars who tell us what we want to hear but do not keep their promises generally next anyway now.
 
Now these days I am  often hearing many persons give their  reasons as to why they personally do want Obama to win, these still are just all personal feelings, for generally they have nothing to do with reality, or real facts.
 
Some people say Obama is a better leader, a better choice, a better President over John McCain but this all is an unproven fact still. This is just mere personal speculation and not a real fact you can even take to the bank. For in reality how well does anyone  still know the reality about  Obama? Can they now even afford taking  the risk?

 and how much of the basic facts about him now is even true?

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

One thing is still very clear the too often pretentious news media and  the too often pretentious  politicians are not actively doing their jobs in helping people to be informed, having the proper facts to be able to make the proper decisions, take the proper actions, so do thank God for the existence of the internet, no matter how imperfect now it itself is as well.. it offers now at least some valid truths to the discerning readers.

October 15, 2008

Canada – Harper failed again in an attempt to win majority government

 

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/the-harper-demon-who-clearly-made-it-all-worse/
 
A Conservative loser is still a big loser 

 

Reality today is that  besides cheap words, more likely broken promises, useless   Canada’s  pretentious Ostrich Conservative Finance Minister  Flaherty still presently offers no viable, real, effective solutions to help the thousands already laid off, and Canada’s present economic meltdown, the people also who will lose their homes due to foreclosures too.

 
More minority government.  Conservatives win about 37 percent of the votes, a one percent gain only  since 2006. Liberals win 26 percent, down 4 percent. Liberals have worst showing in 20 years., BQ win 10 percent-  no change-, and  NDP win 18 percent of the votes , another 1 percent gain . But the NDP made significant gains mostly in Ontario. Lowest voter turnout in history, for $290-million federal election
  
PROJECTED NATIONAL STANDINGS Polls In: 308/308
Party Elected Leading Total
143 0 143
76 0 76
50 0 50
37 0 37
2 0 2
0 0 0
 
 http://enr.elections.ca/National_e.aspx 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/ridings/  
http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2008/electionResults.html
 

Majority Is Seen as Unlikely for Canada’s Conservatives   October 14, 2008  OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s gamble that forcing Canada into its third election in four years would give him firm control over Parliament seemed to be falling short on Tuesday.  Polls leading into the vote had indicated that his Conservatives would return to power, but that they would again find themselves relying on support from the opposition to get legislation passed.  And early returns from Atlantic Canada, where polls closed first, showed the Conservatives leading or elected in 21 parliamentary districts, to the Liberals’ 28 seats. The Conservatives were shut out in Newfoundland and Labrador.  But the Atlantic provinces were not expected to back Mr. Harper’s party, and Danny Williams, the Conservative who is prime minister of Newfoundland, had vigorously campaigned against the federal wing of his party because of a dispute over oil and gas rights. After taking power in 2006, Mr. Harper set a fixed election date, an idea introduced with fanfare but abandoned last month when he called this election.  It appeared that he was relying on the strong economy, as well as disarray in the opposition Liberal Party, to secure the parliamentary majority he was denied in the last election, in January 2006.  Mr. Harper was blindsided, however, by the turmoil that has swept international financial markets. Canada’s banks have avoided the troubles experienced of late in the United States and Britain, but the Toronto Stock Exchange has gyrated with its counterparts elsewhere. Mr. Harper made an undesirable situation worse for his party by projecting a nonchalant attitude.  During a debate, he found himself on the defensive after saying, “What Canadians are worried about right now is not the job situation, not losing their home like in the U.S.” Their concerns, he added, were limited to their investments. Later, in a television interview, he suggested that the world’s economic problems might not be all bad. “I think there are probably some gains to be made in the stock market,” he said. Canadians do not vote directly for a political party or the prime minister, but elect a local member of the House of Commons, the lower house of Parliament. For Mr. Harper to achieve a majority in Parliament, it was essential for him to improve his party’s standing in Ontario and Quebec, which control 181 of the 308 seats.  The current economic uncertainty has been a particular concern in parts of Ontario where industries rely heavily on exports to the United States. A rise in the value of the Canadian dollar over the past two years made many of those factories much less competitive. The economic slowdown in the United States has aggravated the problem. Peter Donolo, a former official in a Liberal government who now is an executive of the Strategic Counsel, a polling firm, said the perception of Mr. Harper in Quebec reversed during the campaign, from a 60 percent approval rating to a 60 percent disapproval rating. “The support just evaporated,” Mr. Donolo said. “He chased away Quebec votes kind of offhandedly.” French-speaking Quebecers reacted poorly to suggestions by Mr. Harper that artists were members of the elite who spent too much time at government-financed galas.  A proposal to stiffen penalties for young people who commit crimes also found little following in the province.   The New Democratic Party, supported by organized labor and led by Jack Layton, steadily rose in most polls during the campaign.  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/world/americas/15canada.html?ref=world

 MONTREAL — Liberal Leader Stephane Dion found himself an unlikely ally Friday as he dealt with the aftermath of a botched English-language interview in Halifax — Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe. Duceppe came to Dion’s defence after the Conservatives manhandled the Liberal leader over the garbled interview and declared him unfit to lead the country. Dion tripped up during the interview with CTV Atlantic on Thursday and excerpts of his linguistic fumbles were later broadcast despite assurances made to the Liberals the flubs would not be aired. The Conservatives wasted no time lambasting Dion, with Leader Stephen Harper linking Dion’s language woes to his ability to lead. But Duceppe called Harper’s comments a “low blow” during a radio interview in Montreal. The Bloc leader says Harper’s comment only illustrates the “double standard” that exists in Canadian politics that requires French-speaking politicians to be fluently bilingual while English-speaking politicians can get away with mangling French. “I think it’s just unacceptable to criticize Mr. Dion’s English,” Duceppe said.  “I think when we compare Mr. Dion’s English with the French of other English leaders or ministers . . . I think he’s getting better.” http://www.edmontonsun.com/canadavotes/news/2008/10/10/7047636.html

How Harper fell apart
London Free Press, Canada –  By GREG WESTON, Sun Media It was the eve of the pivotal leaders’ debates when a group of Liberal strategists gathered to quickly draft a plan for Stephane
New Harper image didn’t cut it with Atlantic vote
TheChronicleHerald.ca, Canada –  By MARILLA STEPHENSON Staff Columnist Atlantic Canadians slammed the door against Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s second serious crack at a majority

Untill all parties start to care about all the voters this predicted fiasco repeats itself

 and it was really dumb to make a person  a Liberal chief too who cannot speak english.

And all persons are merely dreaming that the new Parliament will next usher in an era of co-operation between both the governing party and its opponents as long as Stephen Harper is around. That is not his style for he clearly and wrongfully loves to be a bully, to body check others.  And Harper now will clearly have to endure the successes and failures of minority government again by his own poor contributions to it .
  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/how-did-the-now-alberta-redneck-now-get-it-so-wrong/

 

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/canadas-stephen-harper-the-pretender-imposter/

 

 

Conservatives humbled, they still would still need opposition party support to govern. Canada’s third minority government in four years. Harper’s Conservatives defeated a Liberal minority government in the January 2006 election.  The Bloc Quebecois won about two-thirds of the Quebec province’s 75 seats on Tuesday as it repeated its 2006 success and kept its stranglehold on the province.  Canadian International Trade Minister Michael Fortier lost his bid to win a seat in Parliament in Tuesday’s election, initial projections showed. As expected, the Liberal’s star candidate, 36-year-old Justin Trudeau, son of the late prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, was elected in his riding of Papineau, giving the party a boost to its sagging fortunes in Quebec. Disgraced former foreign minister, Maxime Bernier was easily re-elected in the Beauce with 63 per cent of the vote, despite being embroiled in the Julie Couillard affair.   Fortier, a member of the unelected Senate upper chamber, was trailing badly behind a candidate from the separatist Bloc Quebecois in the French-speaking province of Quebec. Whether he makes it back into government is now in considerable doubt.  Voters shut out the Conservatives from two of Canada’s major cities for a second consecutive election last night, when the Tories failed to secure a single seat in either Toronto or Montreal.. The Liberals have elected or are leading in 21 Toronto ridings, and the NDP in two, while the Conservative party has been shut out of Canada’s largest city yet again. NDP got one seat in Montreal and the Liberals got 15. Almost all of the past Conservative Cabinet Ministers were re-elected. New Democrats across Canada had heightened expectations for the elections on Monday night that were dashed when the ballots were finally counted. Liberal Bob Rae   elected twice in the same year. Rae took the riding in a byelection on March 17 and was declared the winner tonight after about a fifth of the polls were counted. Michael Ignatieff also took his riding of Etobicoke-Lakeshore with about 47 per cent of the vote, with 50 of 261 polls reporting.  Rae and Ignatieff are considered front-runners if Stephane Dion’s leadership is challenged. Political observers have said Dion could face some pressure to resign if the Liberals fail to win about 90 seats, The Liberals are expected  to take about 76 seats.  Former Liberal leadership candidate Martha Hall Findlay took her seat in Willowdale and Gerard Kennedy took Parkdale-High Park from the NDP. Nova Scotia has elected its first Independent MP since 1874. Federal Liberals all but faded from Manitoba’s political landscapeTuesday, clinging to one seat following a fierce fight with the Conservatives and the NDP. Saskatchewan was awash in Tory blue Tuesday night with voters in the province strongly backing their incumbent Conservative MPs. Tories   make almost a clean sweep of all 14 ridings in southern Alberta – Big deal! They make enough noise about it still too.The NDP challenger Linda Duncan  in Edmonton-Strathcona bumped off four-time incumbent Tory Rahim Jaffer, preventing a Conservative sweep of Alberta. The Tories now hold 22 of 36 B.C. seats, up five from the last election.   They took ridings from both the New Democrats and Liberals but boosted their share mostly at Liberal expense. The Liberals went from seven to five seats but managed to hang on to three out of four core ridings. The New Democrats won in nine ridings, down one from their result in the 2006 election.   In the 2006 election, the Liberals sent 20 MPs to Ottawa from Atlantic Canada, while the Conservatives won nine seats and the NDP three. At press time the Liberals were elected or leading in 16 seats, the Conservatives had a small boost to 11 seats, the NDP had four and Bill Casey chalked one up in the Independent column.Voters in Cumberland-Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley are sending ex Conservative Bill Casey back to Ottawa for a fifth consecutive term.  The longtime MP made headlines last June when he voted against his party on a budget bill, saying it denied Nova Scotia benefits promised in an offshore deal. He was promptly kicked out of the Conservative caucus. Gerry Ritz, the federal agriculture minister who came under fire for cracking jokes about listeriosis, has reclaimed his seat in Saskatchewan. Canadians have elected a record number of women  68 to the House of Commons.

 

 

 

“It is historical fact, reinforced again this week, that Quebeckers have always voted for a party led by a Quebecker when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province… It is always possible that this pattern of not preferring one of their own could be broken, but it hasn’t been for 141 years….  It is also an  historical fact, reinforced again this week, that the rest of Canada  have always voted for a party led by a English speaking person when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province who cannot speak English properly, something the dumb Liberal party falsely had overlooked…  And after the Tories’ poor showing in the province in Tuesday’s election, many Quebec Conservatives believe Mr. Harper needs the Premier more than Mr. Charest – who is running high in the polls before a possible spring election – needs him.  The criticism has allowed Mr. Charest to position himself as a defender of Quebec’s interests who doesn’t owe anything to the regime in Ottawa.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
 
Still  the Quebec province could not remain silent on key planks of the Conservative election platform, such as life sentences for young offenders and cuts to arts programs.

 

 

 

The Quebec vote strongly suggests Harper still doesn’t have an innate feel for the aspirations of that province or he really does not care to have one.  “The Bloc got another break when Stephen Harper made a statement pushing for teens who commit serious crimes to serve jail sentences in adult prisons. Mr. Duceppe slammed the Prime Minister for delivering “fresh meat” to prison pedophiles and sending young criminals to “the university of crime.”” http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/election-2008/story.html?id=882332
 
Now really How can a now Alberta, redneck that was personally now even raised in Montreal, Quebec,  now get it so wrong, did he accidently offend the people of Quebec or did he do so knowingly because he not care if it did cause he was trying to please so hard his hypocritical, Conservative rednecks of Alberta, who do emphasize now wrongfully now the letter of   the law over the  spirit of the law.. for now when there is an increase of  problem children, juvenile diligent  it is the parents firstly who have to take the majority of the blame and not the children. Surely the self professing Christian evangelical, Alliance church,  Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows this from his own personal Bible readings? (Prov  22:6 KJV)  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 

September 12, 2008

The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Palin has certainly sparked interest

 
 
Some persons wrongly try to advocate that Pentecostalism is a modern day religion that now is found solely in the United States originally whereas others do rightfully maintain rather it  is a revived New Testament form of Biblical Christianity. It is now a major world wide Charismatic branch of Christianity
 
There are various brands of Pentecostalism today but they all mostly tend to believe in similar aspects of their version of Christianity but not all. There is clearly one  false sect in this grouping now too.
The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Plain has certainly sparked  interest world wide into the Pentecostal religion, and now many persons world wide as well as in the Americas do seek, do want to know seriously what is difference basically  about this Christian religion from the other existing differing Christian religions. 
 
The Christians now already  all supposedly believe in Jesus Christ as firstly being God, Jesus also being the promised Old testament Messiah as well, they the Christians they do all tend to believe in the existence also of the Holy Trinity too ,  where the personal Sprit of Christ, the Holy Spirit is also manifested as a separate personal entity who  carries  on the work of Jesus Christ ongoing in the genuine  Christian Believer’s personal life. It is estimated that only 30 percent of all Christian believers are genuine, actually practicing Christians  in the various Christian churches
 
And  all Christians tend to generally believe in the same Bible, the Old and New Testament  as being now the true revealed word of God to us all even about Jesus, the apostles, and the Christian church as well.
 
The Pentecostals tend to separately now believe that God speaks continually to each Christian  believer now as well personally, even outside of the Word of God, the Bible, by means of the Holy Spirit, and the Pentecostals tend to believe in the separate personal need of receiving the anointing, the Baptism of the  Holy spirit personally in one’s life , this now is clearly a separate experience from the experience of receiving one’s initial personal salvation, eternal life by faith in the innocent, sacrificial, shed blood of Jesus Christ.
 
The majority of the Pentecostals tend to believe in manifesting one of the the Charismatic gifts of the Holy spirit, often tongues , as evidence of now being personally baptized with the Holy spirit. .
 
They the Pentecostals do tend to  believe in the manifestations of the charismatic’s gifts of the Holy Spirit as being applicable today as well, whereas other Pentecostal limit it to solely speaking in tongues, and Pentecostals often do personally practice praying for personal, physical healing, even by the laying of hands on others, as well as the ministry of casting out demons out of individuals too.
  
Needless to say there are different versions by non Pentecostals about what a Pentecostal now are even, some lying and distorted too, depending on who you talk to as well.
The Pentecostals also do tend to believe in the local church being run by elders, apostles, prophets, bishops and not rather by a single one man ministry of a local Pastor.
 
Tithing is mandatory in some Pentecostal churches and in other it is not.
 
The Pentecostal  Church services tend to be vastly different, but not always, some churches are more active in participatory services of worshiping God in songs, tongues, and in prophecies and they also tend to have longer prayer services , and also longer, more diverse, less predictable  church services than many other supposedly Christian denominations.
 
Do see also
 

September 6, 2008

even Canadian employees fired for inappropriate blogging

“Canadian employees fired for inappropriate blogging

September 2nd, 2008  by Karen Sargeant

We have all read a lot about employers monitoring employees’ computer use and whether employees can be fired for inappropriate computer use at work. What about inappropriate computer use at home? Can employees in Canada be fired for that? Two recent decisions say yes.

In both cases, one from Alberta and one from Ontario, employees were fired for blogging about their workplaces. Although the blogs were the employees’ personal blogs, the content in the blogs justified their terminations for cause.

The most recent case (Alberta Union of Provincial Employees v. Alberta) involved an administrative employee in the Alberta Public Service. Because of the nature of the material in the employee’s blog, the arbitration board hearing the employee’s grievance did not name the employee. So we’ll just refer to the blogger as the Grievor.

The Grievor started her blog when her therapist suggested that she write things down as a way to vent anger and helplessness following her father’s death. The Grievor’s three blog posts identified her by name, indicated that she lived in Edmonton, and that she worked for the Alberta provincial government. Interspersed with personal, nonwork postings were blog postings about the Grievor’s workplace, her supervisors, and coworkers.

In one of her blog entries, “Aliens Around the Coffee Table,” the Grievor made comments about the people at work. She devoted a paragraph to six of her coworkers who regularly met for coffee in a specific location. While the Grievor used aliases, the individuals were all identifiable. About a menopausal coworker, the Grievor indicated that if she “had to choose a planet that she came from, I’d say it was some dark planet, with very little oxygen . . .” About a “polite and very well dressed” male coworker, the Grievor said “I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say he’s from a planet in our solar system – Uranus.” About a new employee, the Grievor said “she’s clearly from the planet – Liar, liar pants on fire.” After making comments about three other colleagues, the Grievor said, “to any of my coworkers who didn’t appear in this accounting, be warned your turn may be coming.”

Sometime later, the Grievor posted a blog entry in which she was critical of management. She referred to her workplace as a “lunatic asylum”, her supervisor as “Nurse Ratched,” and the management as “a world like mine with imbeciles and idiot savants  . . .  running the ship.” On another occasion, she referred to her supervisor as the “Power Hungry Wench in Charge.” She repeatedly posted confidential internal memoranda and criticized the contents of the memoranda.

When confronted about her blogging, the Grievor was unapologetic and defiant, demonstrating little awareness of the hurt she had caused others. She defended her freedom of expression, refused to remove the blog posts, and threatened more postings after she was told that she had been fired. This was quite different from the conduct of another employee who had participated in the blogging (who was not fired). That employee had individually apologized to each coworker she had written about.

The arbitration board decided that the province was justified in firing her for cause.  Although it indicated that the “Grievor has a right to create personal blogs and is entitled to her opinions about the people with whom she works,” the arbitration board said that “publicly displaying those opinions may have consequences within an employment relationship.” In the Grievor’s case, the board said that “in expressing contempt for her managers, ridiculing her coworkers and denigrating administrative processes, [the Grievor] engaged in serious misconduct that irreparably severed the employment relationship, justifying discharge.”

The content of the Grievor’s blog, the public nature of the blog, and the Grievor’s unapologetic and defiant behavior outweighed her clean work record, her issues following her father’s death, and her lack of intent to insult her coworkers.

The same result occurred in Chatham-Kent (Municipality) v. National Automobile, Aerospace, Transportation and General Workers Union of Canada (CAW-Canada), Local 127 in which an employee of a nursing home was fired for the contents of her blog.  Although much of the blog site was devoted to personal matters unrelated to work, some of the posted material was insubordinate to management, derogatory and abusive toward coworkers, demeaning and disrespectful of patients, and disclosed confidential information about patients, including a photograph.

Like the Alberta case, the employee’s clean service record, family-related difficulties, and apology did not outweigh the content of the blog. The arbitrator concluded that the municipality was justified in firing the employee for cause.

So whether your employees are using work computers or home computers, if they post information in the public domain that undermines the employment relationship beyond repair, you may be justified in firing them for cause.” http://www.hrheroblogs.com/northernexposure/ 

PS: and if you like it or not and if  legal or not when you post, say, write anything about someone else and they do not like what you do many people go after you by contacting your friends, relatives employer, associates, including the bad pastors, bad  political aides, bad  police for there is no such thing as free, un-oppressed  speech in reality.. as most reformers, whistle blowers find out too  but still public exposure and exemplary prosecution of the bad guys serves everyone’s best interest
 
Too many Bad Canadian politicians, including a Mayor, Premier, a Prime Minister  already had objected to my letters to news editors with copies to them, others and have wrongfully sent the police already 6 times to my home to try to obstruct justice, to hinder my right of free speech but I am still writing..
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/
  

 

Religious Topics of Interest

Topics of Interest
 
Topics of interest are listed  for your edification. Everyday issues of eternal significance are addressed from a biblical standpoint.  http://www.comprehensivechristian.com/Topics-of-Interest.asp

  • Spiritual Warfare
  • Keeping Christ in Christmas
  • The Secret Place of the Most High: What is it?
  • Be true to yourself and God
  • One of the Most Misunderstood Texts: Romans Chapter 7
  • The Preaching that is Commissioned by God
  • Joyful Desperation!
  • Divine Healing by Andrew Murray
  • Christian Worldview in a Crime Ridden World
  • Euthanasia Mercy Killings or Merciless Murders
  • What is the difference between True Revival and False Revival
  • Why the Church needs Revival
  • Why there is no Revival in Most Churches
  • Are you a Christian?
  • What is the Truth?
  • On Choosing Your Life-Partner
  • New Year, 2005!
  • Tsunami, “Saved alone.”
  • How to be an Overcomer
  • What is Autism? Is there a cure?
  • So Many Defenseless Victims of Neglect and Violence…
  • The Passion Of The Christ
  • False Pentecostalism And Man-made doctrines
  • Finally Free
  • 2004 New Year’s Resolution
  • Discovering The Star In You This Christmas Season
  • Some thoughts on taming the tongue
  • Victory in JESUS!
  • Decision Making
  • Addiction of today’s housewife
  • Death of a guru
  • Take Time To Be Holy
  • Exhortation
  • The God Of All Comfort
  • A Loving Rebuke
  • Reversing The Epidemic Of Spiritual Immaturity In The Church
  • Christian Prosperity
  • He Showed Himself Alive!
  • The Christian Soldier at Wartime!
  • Finding Our Way Back To God
  • Liars and the Lake of Fire
  • A thankful heart
  • The Roman Catholic Church
  • Without Love
  • Sobriety : the Lost Art
  • New Year’s Resolution for 2003
  • Christmas 2002
  • A, “Sacred Starvation?”
  • Christmas
  • Easter Season
  • A Word About “Revelation”
  • Follow your own heart …???
  • The Martial Arts and the Christian
  • Speak Lord, for your servant heareth!
  • Are the Gifts of the Holy Spirit for Today?
  • Thinking of You…
  • How to find a good church
  • The nominal christian
  • Overcoming Fear
  • The Christian Cop
  • His face and Form was more damaged than any other man’s
  • Suicide
  • Abortion
  • Lord, what do you want from me anyway?
  • “How could God let something like this happen?”
  • Godly Parenting
  • Warning!! from the World Trade Center Disaster
  • How to live the separated life of a believer?
  • What to do if you are gay/lesbian?
  • What the Bible Teaches
  • How you can have a truly fulfilling marriage?
  • How to get to Heaven?
  • How you can have a True Friend?
  • What the Bible says about dating/pre-marital relationships?
  • How to be Forgiven of Pre-marital Immorality?

“Sad to say, the Lord is very grieved when He views much of our programs, service, worship, devotions etc.  Why? It is because, “this people honors Me with their lips but their hearts are far from Me.” (Isaiah 29:13).
 
We must all by God’s help first die to self, and all it stands for now as well.  
 
“There is really only one reason why we see no revival in most congregations in the world: Disobedience in the professing Christians in the Churches.  One of ways that disobedience is played out is in Self-Deception and Unbelief!
 
There is disobedience and self-deception on the part of pastors and leaders as well on the part of the laity. ”
 
 The pastoral self satisfaction and pastoral disobedience to God stops all revivals from happening.. I proved it myself. Any church can have next a revival, if the people in  that church start to meet regularity and to pray for each specific service that God would be manifested in it.. I asked to met with the pastor of my local church to pray one hour a week for his services, within a month a revival broke out in his Church to his surprise and not mine.
 
Men ought to pray and not faint, pray that the Lord of the harvesters will send his laborers into his field.
 
Increased personal Bible reading, prayer and obedience are clear signals that we personally are pressing toward maturity in Jesus Christ. For we cannot hope to lead any of the others to where we ourselves have refused to go..
 
Do see also 

August 2, 2008

Comparative religion’s values

 

While there are some common, rare similarity amongst some of the major religions in this world, The aspect of polygamy, the rigths of divorce is clearly one that contrasts them all.. for a True Christian divorce is not permitted at all.. even if many Christians falsely practice it.
  
Too Many  persons do practice their own version of Christianity, and Islam it seems thus, based on what others have said it says too..
 
It is true that there are many Muslims, men as well as women, who fully do not live up to the teachings of Islam,and the other religions  now just as there are too many Christian men and women who do not live up to the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles, the Bible undeniably.
 
Muslims women themselves now often complain to news editors how they are abused by Muslim men. Muslim Relgion and do not have equal rights to the men, for example the right to go to school in many Muslim countries now too.. Muslims have equal rights to the other citizens in the English speaking countries.. In fact non Muslims do not have the same rights as Muslims in many Muslim countries now too and all of these facts are undeniable, and undisputable.
  
You must always still judge any person  now by what they say, but  by what they do. Bad people do bad things, no matter what their religion is now too.
  
Also real Reform from within Muslim societies is still even needed, first by even education, knowing that over half of Muslims today,  are illiterate, only 15 percent do even know  Arabic, which is the language of the Qur’an, the holy book of Islam. 
 
Note: Sikhism now also like Mormons, Hindus, Jehovah Witnesses, Islam , Buddhism, and many others  too are  a cult, sect  that bears no genuine relationship to Christianity too. It does not follow the Christian Bible too.
  
One cannot help but notice how so many of these religions differ but now they still do claim to be originated with God. A true God is certainly not so confused that he has started all these various, different and false religions.
 

Afghani journalism student Parwiz Kambakhsh has been sentenced to death for blaspheming because he not only downloaded articles regarding woman’s right’s under Islam, but also exposing the brutality against women and children by the local warlords in his community. He is being sentenced to death for “disseminating defamatory comments about Islam.”Say it isn’t soooo? Sounds like another mo-ham-med teddy bear moment to me! A three judge panel decided that his articles were blasphemous and sentenced him to die. That’s Shari’ah Law for you. The issue for this writer is the Islamic concept of blasphemy

For any religion to survive in the modern world, it needs to adapt to its reality, especially when it comes to equality between men and women concerning religious practices. As men and women should worship God in the same way, women should also have the same rights as women in assuming religious responsibilities.
Some persons try to say that Islam has freed them, but did your brothers, father, government free you yet too? or are they still killng, murdering you ?

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/islam-is-truly-satans-religion/

Physical abuse, Human rights abuses, Verbal abuse, silent treatment or being a control freak is also not acceptable even on the net..

Seven reasons why I believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ
 
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the basis of Christianity. The Apostle Paul stated that if Christ had not been raised from the dead, than all preaching and all teaching of God’s Word would be useless and so would the Christian faith. For this reason, I would like to review seven reasons why I fully believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1. The historical reality of Jesus Christ is true.
The historicity of Jesus Christ is airtight. We have over 5,000 first century documents pointing to Jesus. The secular Roman historian Josephus mentions Jesus in his first century writings. There is archaeological confirmation, especially in the last 30 years, that verify the historical figures mentioned in the New Testament.

2. The character of Jesus Christ is unquestioned.
Jesus questions the authorities by asking, “Can any of you prove me guilty of sin?” (John 8:46) None of them could prove him guilty – even after painstakingly questioning and investigating him.

3. The works of Jesus Christ went unchallenged.
The works of Christ, especially his miracles, were never disputed by his foes. The religious authorities acknowledged the miracles of Jesus and even made claims that Jesus powers came from the devil.

4. The identity of Jesus was confirmed.
Jesus claimed who he was by saying, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” (John 14:6) God, the Father proclaimed, “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” (Mark 9:7) The Apostle Peter said, “You are the Christ”. Even the authorities knew of Jesus’ claim to be God. Granted, these all came from the Bible. However, the most compelling proof is that Jesus the Messiah fulfilled over 700 prophecies of the Old Testament.

5. The death of Jesus was undisputed.
He did not pretend to be dead. The grisly details are recorded of his resurrection, including the fact that a spear was thrust into his side and the Romans did not have to break his legs.

6. The burial of Jesus was public and secure.
He was placed in the tomb of a prominent Jew. The huge stone was set in place and sealed. Roman guards were posted and if they had truly “slept” through the stealing of Jesus’ body, they would have been executed. Besides, would this fearful band of disciples have the nerve to overcome the guards or sneak in to steal the body?

7. The evidence for Jesus’ resurrection is convincing.
The resurrection was predicted by Old Testament prophets. Jesus predicted his death and resurrection several times to his disciples. He appeared over twelve times to over 500 people over a period of forty days. He appeared to Saul, the great persecutor of the early Christians, and his life was transformed. The transformation of Peter from cowering in front of the accusations of a little girl to boldly proclaiming Christ in public and in front of the religious authorities is amazing.

The fact remains that Christians don’t have to throw their brains in the trash can to say that Jesus died and rose again. When you put the evidence in court and the witnesses on the stand, the truth points very solidly in favor of Jesus. What is proclaimed in the Bible is true.

So, what does this mean for us today?

1. The resurrection of Jesus Christ validates the claim that he is the way, the truth and the life.

2. It gives absolute hope for the future. Jesus tells us, “Because I live, you also will live.” (John 14:19) He also says, “In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” (John 14:2-3)

3. It offers spiritual life right now. By faith, we receive Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. Our lives our transformed and we are given peace.

You are the jury. You are given the opportunity to accept or reject the evidence. Your response will determine your destiny.

There are certainly skeptics in the world whose goal is to refute the resurrection itself or even the existence of Christ. Even though there is enough evidence strong enough for a truly objective person to consider the truth as stated in God’s Word. So, then why do people still stubbornly reject Jesus’ claim?

We are given a clue in John 3:19. “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because there deeds were evil.” People reject the truths of the gospel because they love the darkness. The Light of Christ exposes our life. It reveals the fact that we are full of pride and self-centeredness. Our sinful nature exalts our self over a God. The Light tells us to turn from darkness (our self, our pride) and turn to Christ. We turn because we realize that we have a need we can’t possibly fill on our own – not because Christians don’t have good answers to difficult questions.

For all those who are reading this post and have not accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I ask you to come to the Light and receive Christ. For those who already believe, stay strong and do not be afraid or timid to share the truth. Remember, Jesus told us, “I am with you to the very end of the age.”

These thoughts were taken from an excellent series entitled, “Why I Believe” by Chip Ingram.

http://witnesswell.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/seven-reasons-why-i-believe-in-the-resurrection-of-jesus-christ/

 

Do also see

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/sikhism-is-an-independent-religion-and-it-is-not-a-sect-of-islam-or-hinduism/

http://abdoukili.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/religious-inequality/

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/marriage/

http://groups.msn.com/Jesussayscome  

http://pbulow.tripod.com

http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

 

July 29, 2008

The 2 Promised Returns of Jews to Israel?

(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  24:1  And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple.  2  And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.  

I do also believe that God divinely still looks after Israel and protects it, but this is never a justification of any of Israel’s past or present acts..  

 
  The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament. It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no  God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too.  after their second  dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even  for  the Jewish  return in 1948..  Do try prove me wrong.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/
 

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 … This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

“Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).

“And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).

And  the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ

“For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith”   Romans 4:13

 “Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.

 , “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”  Galatians 3:29

“And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).

Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now  certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel  earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for israel as many Jews, some professing Christians  falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.

 

It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been  so easily misled by others. 

I really get sick every time I hear preachers such as John Hagee and Jerry Falwell demonize the Arab people, while glorifying the Jews. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ” http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

Often we hear Zionists claim to the promised land if Israel today and supposedly justified from the Bible, based on isolated verses  or those in the Old Testament, not many frOm the New Testament for sure.. Any honest persons reading the Bible should admit that it was not the gentiles, But God himself had on two occasions in history now removed the Jews from the land of Israel,  and like most of the other nations of world  Israel now too Israel itself is not perfect and does not fully follow after God as it firstly has been commanded to do so too. They also should read their own Bible as to the reasons they were dispelled the first time.. 
 
Jer 34:8 [This is] the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem to proclaim liberty to them:
Jer 34:9
Every man should let his Hebrew slaves, male and female, go free, so that no one should make a slave of a Jew, his brother.
Jer 34:10
And all the princes and all the people obeyed, who had entered into the covenant that everyone would let his manservant and his maidservant go free, so that none should make bondmen of them any more; they obeyed, and let them go.
Jer 34:11
But afterward they turned around and caused the servants and the handmaids whom they had let go free to return [to their former masters] and brought them into subjection for servants and for handmaids.
Jer 34:12
Therefore the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
Jer 34:13
Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, saying,
Jer 34:14
At the end of seven years you shall let every man his brother who is a Hebrew go free who has sold himself {or} has been sold to you and has served you six years; but your fathers did not listen to {and} obey Me or incline their ear [submitting and consenting to Me].
Jer 34:15
And you recently turned around {and} repented, doing what was right in My sight by proclaiming liberty each one to his neighbor [who was his bond servant]; and you made a covenant {or} pledge before Me in the house which is called by My Name.
Jer 34:16
But then you turned around and defiled My name; each of you caused to return to you your servants, male and female, whom you had set free as they might desire; and you brought them into subjection again to be your slaves.
Jer 34:17
Therefore thus says the Lord: You have not listened to Me {and} obeyed Me in proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and neighbor. Behold, I proclaim to you liberty–to the sword, to pestilence, and to famine, says the Lord; and I will make you to be tossed to and fro {and} to be a horror among all the kingdoms of the earth!
Jer 34:18
And the men who have transgressed My covenant, who have not kept the terms of the covenant {or} solemn pledge which they had made before Me, I will make them [like] the [sacrificial] calf which they cut in two and then passed between its separated parts [solemnizing their pledge to Me]–I will make those men the calf!
Jer 34:19
The princes of Judah, the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, the priests, and all the people of the land who passed between the parts of the calf,
Jer 34:20
I will give them into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life. And their dead bodies will be food for the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the earth.
Jer 34:21
And Zedekiah king of Judah and his princes will I give into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life, and into the hand of the king of Babylon’s army which has withdrawn from you.
Jer 34:22 Behold, I will command, says the Lord, and cause them [the Chaldeans] to return to this city; and they shall fight against it and take it and burn it with fire. I will make the cities of Judah a desolation without inhabitant. 
  
Jer 35:13 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to My words {and} obey them? says the Lord.
Jer 35:14
The command which Jonadab son of Rechab gave to his sons not to drink wine, has been carried out {and} established [as a custom for more than two hundred years]. To this day they drink no wine, but they have obeyed their father’s command. But I, even I, have persistently spoken to you, but you have not listened to {and} obeyed Me.

Jer 35:15
I have sent also to you all My servants the prophets earnestly {and} persistently, saying, Return now every man from his evil way and amend your doings and go not after other gods to serve them; and then you shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers. But you did not submit {and} consent to Me or listen to {and} obey Me.

Jer 35:16 Since the sons of Jonadab son of Rechab have fulfilled {and} established the command of their father which he commanded them, but these people have not listened to and obeyed Me,
Jer 35:17
Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing upon Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them, because I have spoken to them, but they have not listened, and I have called to them, but they have not answered.
 
In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the  reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1).  And the full promised by God  restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today  and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. The fact the full promsied return it had all had happened on Pentecost, a feast holiday to commemorate also the freeing of the slaves is very significant too. Pentecost is derived  one of the three Pilgrimage Festivals required in the Law of Moses. A Jewish holy day celebrated on the sixth of Sivan to celebrate Moses receiving the Ten Commandments and it also now commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles and other followers of Jesus as described in the Book of Acts,   ”According to the Pentateuchal legislation contained in Leviticus, a Jubilee year is the year that follows immediately seven successive Sabbatic years (the Sabbatic year being the seventh year of a seven-year cycle). Accordingly, the Jubilee year takes place at the end of seven times seven years, i.e. at the end of every forty-nine years, or the fiftieth.  Hence, the institution of the Jubilee-year system is but an extension or the working out of the Sabbatic-year legislation, viz. that as at the end of every six years there succeeds a Sabbatic year, so at the end of each seven Sabbatic years there succeeds a Jubilee year. Arguing from the analogous Pentecostal system, it is evident that the actual year in which the Jubilee occurs is not the last of the seventh Sabbatic cycle (i.e. the forty-ninth year), but the year following, namely, the fiftieth. Hence, at the end of each forty-eight years there occur two consecutive fallow years, viz. the forty-ninth, or the Sabbatic year of the seventh Sabbatic cycle and the fiftieth, or the Jubilee year.” http://www.piney.com/Jubilee.html  

In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church 

 Even in Revelation 2:17, John (quoting Jesus) promises to overcomers (i.e., the Church) a “new name” that “no one knows except the one who receives it.” This is a clear reference to the prophecy in Isa. 62:2 (“And the nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord will designate”) and 65:15 (“but My servants will be called by another name”) about Israel’s future kingly status and restoration to Yahweh, both of which are now applied to individuals within the church.

..the New Testament fiurthermore provides us all with an expanded definition of what constitutes an “Israelite” or a “Jew”. Or perhaps we might say that the NT provides us with a “Christified” perspective on the people of God. Ethnicity is no longer the primary concern. Having Abraham’s blood in one’s veins is not the primary consideration, but rather having Abraham’s faith in one’s heart. Jesus is the true “seed” of Abraham to whom the promise was given. But if anyone is “in Christ” by faith, he or she is the “seed” of Abraham and thus an heir according to the promise.

Revelation 3:9 is especially instructive. Here Jesus promises the Church in Philadelphia that he “will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie – behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.” There are two important points to make.First, he refers to people who “say they are Jews and are not, but lie” (for an almost identical statement, see Rev. 2:9). Clearly, in one sense, these people are Jews, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who met regularly in the synagogue to worship. Yet, in another sense, i.e., inwardly and spiritually, they are not Jews, having rejected Jesus and now persecuted and slandered his people. Indeed, their gatherings at synagogue are energized by Satan himself. 

But if they are false Jews, who, then, are the true Jews? If they are a synagogue of Satan, who, then, constitutes a synagogue of God? John does not provide an explicit answer, but the implication seems clear. Ladd explains: “true Jews are the people of the Messiah.

Apostle Paul says the same thing very clearly: ‘For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal’ (Rom. 2:28-29). That this ‘Judaism of the heart’ is not to be limited to believing Jews but includes believing gentiles is clear from Paul’s words to the Philippians: ‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus’ (Phil. 3:3). We must conclude, then, that John makes a real distinction between literal Israel – the Jews – and spiritual Israel – the church” (43-44).  

Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“  God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).

Once again some Jewish  persons are waiting for  a promised return here but they are greatly mistaken, for this return is the promised return to Jesus Christ the messiah, and it includes the Church, composed of Jews and gentiles now. This promised restoration of the remnant of Israel, and of the gentile has been fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ ..   

(Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

(Rev 21:2 KJV)  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

As per the next full supposed re-gathering  of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus.  (Acts 2:2 KJV)  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

(Acts 2:36 KJV)  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

(Acts 16:31 KJV)  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Acts 16:32 KJV)  And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

(Acts 20:20 KJV)  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,

But most Jews who tend to reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah, and evangelicals too, tend not to agree with this and they are waiting for rather a supposedly soley Jewish messiah, not a Jewish -gentile messiah of Jesus Christ, so next they will be deceived and disappointed by the false counterfeit messiah, the anti Christ,  (Rev 13:18 KJV)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and the same anti Christ who falsely will restore the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem, restore the sacrifices in the temple,

(Rev 14:9 KJV)  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

(Rev 14:10 KJV)  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

(Rev 14:11 KJV)  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

There are numerous passages in the NT where OT prophecies concerning Israel’s regathering and restoration are applied to the Church, indicating that the latter is the “true Israel” comprised of both believing Jews and believing Gentiles in whom the promises will be fulfilled. Or, to put it in other terms, the Church does not replace Israel but takes up and perpetuates in itself the believing remnant within the nation as a whole.
 

The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches 

Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

Simon Peter spoke of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in conjunction with the final judgment and the punishment of sinners. Instructively, this same Simon Peter, the Apostle to the Circumcision, says nothing about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel in the land of Palestine. Instead, as his readers contemplate the promise of Jesus’ Second Coming, he fixes their hope upon the new heavens and the new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

The entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East called the “Holy Land” cannot be supported by the new testament or Old tesatment Scriptures. In fact, the land promises specific to Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled under Joshua. The New Testament speaks clearly and prophetically about the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. No New Testament writer foresees a regathering of ethnic Israel in the land, as did the prophets of the Old Testament after the destruction of the first temple in 586 B.C. Moreover, the land promises of the Old Covenant are consistently and deliberately expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus, who reigns from heaven upon the throne of David, inviting all the nations through the Gospel of Grace to partake of his universal and everlasting dominion. 

and why were the Jews dispelled from Israel the second Time? Because also due  their false hope of having a Jewish state separate of Jesus Christ.
 
 God has promised to restore His Jewish people to Israel – Jer 29:14 and this promised has been fulfilled after the Babylonian exile and return now too.
Yet some evangelicals, Zionists falsely believe there are here, were simultaneous prophecies of a latter day restoration of Israel solely, alone… fullfilled in 1948
a. To be fulfilled in the last days, supposedly our modern  times, just before the Lord Jesus Christ finally returns
b. That includes the return of Jews to Palestine and the establishment of  Israel as an independent state in May, 1948, was a fulfillment of  such prophecies.
Yes next the Jewish people again as warned by God, and prophesied by Jesus, predicted too were dispersed worldwide by the Romans and God himself.

At the heart of many of the political commitments in question are two fatally flawed propositions. First, some are teaching that God’s alleged favor toward Israel today is based upon ethnic descent rather than upon the grace of Christ alone, as proclaimed in the Gospel. Second, others are teaching that the Bible’s promises concerning the land are fulfilled in a special political region or “Holy Land,” perpetually set apart by God for one ethnic group alone. As a result of these false claims, large segments of the evangelical community, our fellow citizens, and our government are being misled with regard to the Bible’s teachings regarding the people of God, the land of Israel, and the impartiality of the Gospel.

God, the Creator of all mankind, is merciful and takes no pleasure in punishing sinners. Yet God is also holy and just and must punish sin. Therefore, to satisfy both his justice and his mercy, God has appointed one way of salvation for all, whether Jew or Gentile, in Jesus Christ alone.  Jesus Christ, who is fully God and fully man, came into the world to save sinners. In his death upon the cross, Jesus was the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, of Jew and of Gentile alike. The death of Jesus forever fulfilled and eternally ended the sacrifices of the Jewish temple. All who would worship God, whether Jew or Gentile, must now come to him in spirit and truth through Jesus Christ alone. The worship of God is no longer identified with any specific earthly sanctuary. He receives worship only through Jesus Christ, the eternal and heavenly Temple.

To as many as receive and rest upon Christ alone through faith alone, to Jews and Gentiles alike, God gives eternal life in his heavenly inheritance. 

Bad Christian theology regarding the “Holy Land” contributed to the tragic cruelty of the Crusades in the Middle Ages. Lamentably, bad Christian theology is today attributing to secular Israel a divine mandate to conquer and hold Palestine, with the consequence that the Palestinian people are marginalized and regarded as virtual “Canaanites.” This doctrine is both contrary to the teaching of the New Testament and a violation of the Gospel mandate. In addition, this theology puts those Christians who are urging the violent seizure and occupation of Palestinian land in moral jeopardy of their own bloodguiltiness. Are we as Christians not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword? Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.

The present secular state of Israel, however, is not an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ’s kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in “the land,” by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices. Instead, this present age will come to a climactic conclusion with the arrival of the final, eternal phase of the kingdom of the Messiah. At that time, all eyes, even of those who pierced him, will see the King in his glory. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign forever and ever. http://www.bible-researcher.com/openletter.html 

I must point our that the same false dispensationalists, Zionists who reject these truths in the Bible are the same persons who today tend to deny the Holy Spirit, they reject that God’s gifted men and Holy spirit gifts exist today because they are not spirit filled, led by the Holy Spirit in reality.  

http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/end/end_07.htm

“You are not to go to the left or to the right unless you hear a voice ( of the Holy Sprit) saying this is the way walk there in”.. Many of us have not learned as to how to hear this voice .

 

Background

“Zionism is a Modern  international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.[1] Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century.   Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5]  Zionism can be distinguished from Territorialism, a Jewish nationalist movement calling for a Jewish homeland not necessarily in Palestine. During the early history of Zionism, a number of proposals were made for settling Jews outside of Europe, but ultimately all of these were rejected or failed. The debate over these proposals helped to define the nature and focus of the Zionist movement. Since the first century CE most Jews have lived in exile, although there has been a constant presence of Jews in the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel). According to Judaism, Eretz Israel, or Zion, is a land promised to the Jews by God according to the Bible. Following the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt, Jews were expelled from Palestine to form the Jewish diaspora. In the nineteenth century a current in Judaism supporting a return grew in popularity. Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.[10] Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution.  In the 1890s Theodor Herzl infused Zionism with a new and practical urgency. He brought the World Zionist Organization into being and, together with Nathan Birnbaum, planned its First Congress at Basel in 1897.[13] This current in Zionism is known as political Zionism because it aimed at reaching a political agreement with the Power ruling Palestine. Up to 1917 this was the Ottoman Empire, and then until 1948 it was Britain on behalf of the League of Nations. The WZO also supported small scale settlement in Palestine.  Lobbying by Chaim Weizmann (cultural Zionists) and others culminated in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 by the British government. This declaration endorsed the creation of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. In 1922, the League of nations endorsed the declaration in the Mandate it gave to Britain:  Palestinian Arabs resisted Zionist migration. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, sometimes accompanied by massacres of Jews. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration. The subsequent growth in Jewish migration led to the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine which in turn led the British to establish the Peel Commission to investigate the situation. The commission (which did not examine the situation of Jews in Europe) called for a two-state solution and compulsory transfer of populations. This solution was rejected by the British and instead the White Paper of 1939 proposed an end to Jewish immigration by 1944, with a further 75,000 to be admitted by then. In principle, the British stuck to this policy until the end of the Mandate. After WWII and the Holocaust, support for Zionism increased, especially among Jewish Holocaust survivors. The British were attacked in Palestine by Zionist groups because of their restrictions on Jewish immigration, the best known attack being the 1946 King David Hotel bombing. Unable to resolve the conflict, the British referred the issue to the newly created United Nations.  In 1947, the UNSCOP recommended the partition of western Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory (Corpus separatum) around Jerusalem.[15] This partition plan was adopted on November 29th, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote itself, which required a two-third majority, was a very dramatic affair and led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[16]  The Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state with an Arab majority. violence immediately exploded in Palestine between Jews and Arabs. On 14 May 1948, at the end of the British mandate, the Jewish Agency, led by Ben-Gurion declared the creation of the State of Israel and the same day, the armies of four[17] Arab countries invaded Israel. During the following eight months, Israel forces defended the Jewish partition and conquered portions of the Arab partition, enlarging its portion to 78 percent of mandatory Palestine. The conflict led to an exodus of about 711,000 Arab Palestinians [18], of whom about 46.000 were internally displaced persons in Israel. The war ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which included new cease-fire lines, the so-called Green line.  After the war the Arabs continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and demanded that it retreat to the 1947 partition lines. They sustained this demand until 1967 when the rest of western Palestine was conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War, after which Arab states demanded that Israel retreat to the 1949 cease fire line, the only “borders” currently recognized by the international community. These borders are commonly referred as the “pre-1967 borders” or the “green line”. The border with Egypt was legalized in the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, and the border with Jordan in the 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. After the creation of the State of Israel the WZO continued to exist as an organisation dedicated to assisting and encouraging Jews to migrate to Israel, as well as providing political support for Israel.  In addition to Jewish Zionism, there was always a small number of Christian Zionists that existed from the early days of the Zionist movement.”   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism 
“Over 400 years of independence under the Davidic dynasty ended in 586 BCE when the country was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed the Temple and exiled most of the people. However, before the century was over the Jews returned, rebuilt the Temple and restored Jewish life in the Land. For the next centuries, they knew varying degrees of self-rule under Persian (538-333 BCE) and Hellenistic (322-142 BCE) overlordship, independence under the Hasmonean dynasty (142-63 BCE) and then increasingly oppressive domination by the Romans beginning in 63 BCE. When the Jews were prevented from carrying out their traditional religious way of life, they launched a series of uprisings, which climaxed in the revolt of 66 CE.   After four years of fighting, Rome put down the Jewish Revolt and burned the Temple to the ground. Many thousands of Jews were killed, sold into slavery and dispersed to countries near and far. The only remnant of the entire Temple compound was the Western Wall, which became a place of pilgrimage and worship for Jews, and remains so to the present time.  In 132 CE, another Jewish revolt, which restored Jewish sovereignty for three years, was cruelly suppressed, claiming thousands of lives. To stamp out the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, the Romans renamed the country Palaestina.  The small Jewish community which remained in the Land gradually recovered. Institutional and communal life was reconstructed to meet the new situation without the unifying framework of the state and the Temple. Priests were replaced by rabbis, and in the absence of a central place of worship, the synagogue became the nucleus of each of the scattered communities. Between 636 and 1096, the Jewish community in the Land diminished considerable and lost some of its organizational and religious cohesiveness, ” http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
 
God leads us in many ways, through his word, through people, but God will confirm his will for us still too. I have had often had to learn spiritual truths the hard way, by trying to do my own thing and failing at it, and Jesus reminding me that I could do nothing without him. Now I pray before I do anything and I await his instructions, if God does not lead me, or tells me not to do something, I tend not to do it. I had bought a pair summer shorts recently and I wanted to get matching T-shirt to it too.. I had tried a few stores but was unable to get the matching color that I had wanted. So I prayed about it and God told me not to look for it. I have learned he will deal with it his way and in his time. So I went along with my normal agendas. I had to go the drug store to get my medicine renewed so I did so. I was surprised to find the matching T-shirt, in the color I had wanted on sale at half price too in the drug store. After I pray I have come to learn to expect God will answer the prayer, I do not have to do it in my own strength.
 
It also now seems that unresolved problems tend to make us seek God. How to draw closer to God. You have wanted God to speak to you for a long time. You have wanted to talk to God and get answers back. This  is an opportunity for you to have a dialogue with God. God too wants to communicate with you. You might have been in church, a crusade, in your room, or outside under the stars. You felt God’s call, but you didn’t know exactly what God wanted you to do. You knew you were going to do something special, but you didn’t know what it was. Now you can also find out God’s plan for you, and others too and the literature is all free too.   It teaches you how to hear God’s voice.  God will teach you many things you need to know.  Valid spiritual tools to help you make conscious contact with God: Praise, Prayer, Humbleness, Obedience, the Bible. Get yourself ready where God speaks to you 

God is these days speaking to us not just through the words in the Bible. Many of us have at times sensed that something is wrong in the church  and  because of the continual deficiencies in our knowledge of scripture, deficiencies in our walk with God, deficiencies in our being able to hear the voice of God, and the fear of man we have suppressed or put aside these things, yet in our hearts these nudges of the Holy Spirit keep coming back time and again. So we have at times felt things, we have at times sensed things, but we have not necessarily known that now God has been speaking and guiding us. When we   have sought help from a preacher or teacher we too often next have in time realized in some measure that what they tend speak not from a personal knowledge of God, from the leading of God  but instead speak from the stale corn of other people books, tapes, and notes or their own views. And yet with these sweeping -general explanations these things we have known never really go away — for the Holy Spirit still speaks to men and what we  have already seen and heard of Him we do still believe  God still speaks to men, and confers upon those that love Him and are obedient His tokens of His affection — true gifts and true ministry. Next that  Word becoming flesh (in us), a personal reality in many of our life experience, that can be “seen” and “handled” by those some of those called out persons that are around us.

Do see  http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html     and http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Meditating%20on%20the%20Lord.htm
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/articles.htm

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

July 6, 2008

Free Bible versed wallpapers , original photos

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