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June 21, 2008

Amazing

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 Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,

the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.
 
Secondly it is amazing how many so called Christian Internet Discussions sites are still control freaks, ostriches with hidden agendas and they do not post the Responses that show them truly in an unfavorable light..
 
(1Pe 1:22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
(1Pe 1:23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
(1Pe 1:24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
(1Pe 1:25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
 
Karl said 1 hour ago:  Looks like I cannot post anything here anymore. The owner of this blog prefers only people who share his views.  http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/to-oneness-heretics-the-meaning-of-colossians-29/
 
Mind you there is a difference between unfair censorships and regulating appropriately the inadequate spews, comments..  but never the less let the prophets speak and let the other’s judge..
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
And those we love we talk to them, but those we do not love we tend to talk about them..
 
>>The Catholic Church is accused of intolerance yet we see comments get deleted just because the owner of this blog can’t bear the truth. Should one, then, suppose that the rest are telling the truth seeing that their comments are not deleted ?

The Catholic Church is accused of intolerance and yes you can add to that lying, twisting the Bible, truths too.. but so does the non catholic churches do thaT now too..

There is still a difference between censorship and rightfully regulating inappropriate comments.

Since the net first came out now I too have had my comments deleted on many sites, Christian – evangelical, non evangelical, catholic ones and non Christian ones – Jewish’s, Muslims, and even the general, political ones as well.. for some people are ostriches who do not want to face the negative truths, and/ or have a hidden agenda and they do not like anything that distrust their agendas. So to solve it I just same make the posts on my own sites, and someone still tried to censor some of them, including the bad cops..

No even the Catholic or the evangelical church these days is far from perfect.

I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part  Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too  and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false  add on to the Bible, New testament.
 

 The real truth is that the even evangelicals do now have many major faults of their own they need to deal still to do as well, and not just solely pick on the Abortionists, Catholics, Cults, gays, etc., Even the evangelicals fight amongst themselves and we see this in the common ungodly war between Pentecostals and non Pentecostals too.

Sadly Bashing others, uplifting one group or self over others is very popular on the net, in churches too and is known as bullying, done even by the Pastors, priests, Christian and non Christian persons but it is still unacceptable. I expect to the people do it in false pride to make themselves feel better, but very shortly they next again become depressed still because after all it is still an immoral act that needs to be repented off.

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

As for “It is only in this world that we can find a created being who has power to forgive the sinner, who can free him from the chains of sin and hell; and that extraordinary being is the priest, the Catholic priest. “Who can forgive sins except God? Was the question, which the Pharisees harshly asked. “Who can forgive sins?” is the question that the Pharisees of the present day also ask: and the answer is, There is a man on earth that can forgive sins, and that man is the Catholic priest. This because the priest is the ambassador of God (1 Cor 3:9).”

Now there is no way I can believe that at all too.. or that Virgin Mary is a deity, part of the trinity, speaks to people today.. Believe it or not I too have met many Mary worshippers in the Catholic church myself lately who were sexually immoral, even a lesbian cult too. Their forgiveness for me rightfully does not mean much when they basically cannot even change themselves.

Me I am not a catholic, or a protestant, but a true Believer in Jesus Christ, a Christian.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/am-i-therefore-become-your-enemy/

>>You are not alone, I too, came dangerously close to switching faiths ; I almost threw in my lot with one of them countless born-again churches that daily seem to spring up everywhere. But there was something utterly detestable and repulsive about these sects that kept me away. Today, am glad that I stayed away because they are like a cancer. I also fail to understand how anyone can believe the so-called “speaking in tongues.” I once asked someone whether he really understood a thing when people “speak in tongues”. He answered in the negative but said that those filled with the Holy Spirit do. I then asked him, who these holy spirit-filled people are. He said that he did not know.

There was a day when I was a child and I too could not understand it

Me I speak in tongues when led by the Holy Spirit and I need too and I am one of these holy spirit filled persons.

After I pray or speak in tongues I pray for the English discernment as well so I can understand it as the Bible commands we should and I do get it as well. It is often revealing, surprising as to what I have prayed, said too. I was in a church when the pastor had finished his sermon, and I had next given a tongue prophecy.. ” My servant has preached my message and has rightfully called you to repentance, BUT you have refused to come, shall I here announce your sins to all” next dozens of people rush to the church alter for repentance..

(Eph 5:19 KJV) Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

(Eph 5:20 KJV) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Eph 5:21 KJV) Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

  http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

>Does anyone here know how the JW cultists get around the Greek here in order to maintain their blasphemous belief that Jesus Christ was an incarnation of the archangel Michael?
 
They lie, they add to the word of God, and to the  GREEK, and they claim they have used a translator’s privilege to actually reinterpret the Bible passages to get the point of view they want..
 
and it seems ACTUALLY many other people do that too anyway, they also even do pick and chose the Bible passages to suit their own point of view in many cults, sects, Christian denominations…
 
so they lie to themselves basically firstly and if you do that you are headed in a really bad direction cause you often start to believe your own lies next too.
   
2: I found these comments really appropriate on a site that discussed our need to daily read the Bible.
 
“A true conversation, of course, involves both talking and listening. Most of us do better with the talking part. I used to be so occupied doing the Lord’s work that I had no time to pay close attention to God’s voice. I preached six times a week, taped two television programs, traveled across the nation, wrote books, pastored the church, and administrated a large church staff and broadcast ministry (among other daily duties). I spent time talking to God, very often about the needs of my personal life and ministry—but not much time listening to God. I ended up in the hospital for a week and out of circulation for three months. If we don’t learn how to listen to God, we can make unwise and very costly mistakes.” 

(Col 2:9 KJV) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

(Col 2:10 KJV) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

You are complete only in Him too.

All of our souls are in great danger of being swallowed by this formidable tide of apostasy and corruption, which is devastating the Church, churches and never mind the world because many people have submitted to the lusts of their carnal flesh, as well to the call of the devil and the world undeniably.

Two of my continual shocks in life the last 5 decades amongst many others now too now are as to how many evangelical pastors now basically are still ungodly and how come they wrongfully do not repent of this?

Secondly in the last 5 decades 50 percent of once loudly professing evangelical Christians undeniably depart by their own choice from the faith even admittedly

I am of the opinion that many people look at past Christian History to overcome the God shaped vacuum they presently do have in their life too.. and there are many reasons now even for this – them specifically not being led today by the Holy Spirit.. even that they are rather doing their own thing, or they are in deliberate willful sins, or they are pride, or they are abusing others or their spouse even by cheating, lying to and stealing from them, amongst many other reasons. I like what I had read years ago.. God has not moved! Did you?

I admit I was in shock, in anger about 3 decades ago when for the first time some one said God can talk directly to you personally, I found that initially unbelievable, even as to why I had not heard him before.. too busy talking and not quietly listening to him firstly too.

Ever notice how so many professing Christians do a lot of talking, but rarely quote any Bible verses in reality, seems they too still want to still hear themselves do all the talking and not God rather.

(Rom 6:6 KJV) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

(1 Cor 1:23 KJV) But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

(1 Cor 2:8 KJV) Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

(2 Cor 13:4 KJV) For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

(Gal 2:20 KJV) I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(Gal 5:24 KJV) And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

(Gal 6:14 KJV) But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 

http://withoutwax.tv/2008/06/16/continue-the-conversation-sync-part-3/    “Responses to “Continue The Conversation (SYNC-Part 3)”  This is something that I struggle with…being a Pastor and growing up in a Pastor’s home, at times I have found myself coasting on the knowledge I have gained throughout the years. I have made a more then conscious effort as of late to make reading the Word “the” priority of my day. It is unreal what God is revealing to me….
  
It has to be for me to stay on track. I know it sounds like an over-simplification but Dwight L. Moody said it best. “The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible.”
  
 I love “and I ‘rested’ in the Lord rather then ‘doing’ quiet time. I’m trying to get my quiet time out of the homework category. I don’t want to view it as something I just need to check off my list. I’m hoping to get some time this week to just absorb the Scriptures instead of just reading them!
 
(Phi 2:5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
(Phi 2:6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
(Phi 2:7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
(Phi 2:8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
(Phi 2:9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
(Phi 2:10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Phi 2:11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I read in a book one time that we should pray that God would make His Word a delight to us. I prayed that for a long time. It is a delight to me now. 
 
God’s words are truly life to me right now. I have always been one to journal (and I still love it) but things are different now. because of my life circumstances I need god more than ever before. and because of that it is an ongoing “meeting” we have throughout the day instead of a set “quiet time”. I really want my health and marriage restored but without these circumstances I wouldn’t know god the way I do. I NEED to know what HE is saying to me through his word and I love it.
 
If I were honest with you, I would tell you that I cannot remember the last time I had a quiet time.
Honestly.
And if I continued to be honest with you, I would tell you that I also have not been to church in like the past month.
Are the two related. Probably.
 
I don’t have profound revelation usually when I read the Bible. But I still do it daily. Some days I don’t want to take a shower or get out of bed, but I do it because I need to. Same with the Bible. If I don’t do it I might miss out. I hate to be out of the loop. Even when I don’t get chills or cry or feel all good inside I know that the Lord is dropping wisdom right into my heart. That is why I read the Bible daily. My prayer life is much stronger in my quiet time than my Bible references. But I can tell you the stuff I read gets stuck inside and when I need it it’s there. I usually cannot tell you what book, chapter, or verse. How much does that matter? It’s the wisdom and knowledge that God imparts upon my being that matters. Even if it feels like a chore, my advice is to do it anyway. You don’t have to read a whole chapter. Just pick a psalm or a proverb. Start small and work your way up. You’ll be blessed for your efforts.
  
This is a GREAT topic of conversation!  I have only been a Christian for about 7 years and over these past 7 years, I have found that my walk with Christ has been filled with peaks and valleys. If I wasn’t at a peak, I was at a valley. It was never constant. Then I realized something.when I was reading His Word daily, I was peaking and when I wasn’t..down to the valley I would go. Now, I’m at a constant. I am in His Word every day! I have to be. Now, don’t get me wrong. There are still peaks and valleys, but they are not extreme. I am no longer on the roller coaster ride. I have fallen deeper in love with Christ and yearn, daily, to know more of God’s character. I am surprised and amazed every day by what He is showing me. Little nooks and cranny’s that I have never seen before. It’s truly incredible. It’s like the first time you realize you’re in love with someone, but better.
  
If a plant does not get water, or enough of it, it first wilts, dries up and then dies. This is so true of us! We NEED the water of His word to THRIVE and GROW.:-)
  
It is. If I’m not in the Word and dedicated time for spending time with the Lord in the morning, my day is awful. Well, I should say I am awful. I’m out of sorts, quick to find fault, easily annoyed, the list goes on. It is amazing to me how totally different I am when I am walking in the Spirit instead of racing along in my flesh. And I am so thankful that those “awful” days are far and few between. Praise Him!
  
It amazes me how comforting God’s word can be in facing life’s problems. I am facing a financial problem that will, without doubt, affect my life for many years to come. While “trying to figure it all out” yet again this morning, I started reading the Psalms and ran across a scripture that said ” My times are in God’s hands.” The worry melted away immediately! This is not a coincidence for me. God’s word has given me comfort when I needed comfort, strength when I felt weak, courage when I felt defeated, hope when all appeared lost, and joy when hurt turned into tears. God’s word reveals promises that I can count on, and wisdom when all seems confusing. The truth is that I can’t think of a reason not to spend time in God’s word! It is nourishment for my soul!”
 
>> Unfortunately, the Word is a struggle for me. I have had months where I have faced very similar things.. Firstly we al still have to eat, I still just merely read daily the Bible and have my quiet time, by faith trusting God is working on the oppressions too. Secondly I admit that I am a slave servant of Jesus Christ and most conflicts firstly tend to be caused by me trying to take my own charge, control of my life, wanting to do my own thing.. and upon surrender this to God  I continue to follow his will rather. God generally replies to me and says there will be days when you cannot seem to feel me, see me, just trust me I love you and I am still there holding your hand.     

LIke I have said often” Too many even professing Christian persons are still parrots, they have not really read the Bible for themselves, they really do not know the Bible or God for that matter still too.. they are repeating what others have told them, and too often often it is distorted truths, lies.. 

(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
(James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
(James 1:22 KJV) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
   
5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. 

 

 

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June 19, 2008

Exemplary

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Funny how some immoral persons, even if they call themselves Christians , have to resort to personal attacks on the writer, me, , when they cannot dispute the biblical truths, facts presented.. it is their own false alternative to avoid facing the truth about themselves firstly, the really big beam in their own eye.. and they are foolish enough to think I have to put up with it too.. if you lie to me, abuse me, I rightfully no longer talk to you for a start.. as simple as that… no matter who you think you are now, my mother, father, brother, sister, wife, my children , pastor, elder, etc..
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

NOW DUE TO MY POSTS I HAVE RECEIVED   BASHING EMAILS FROM MANY PASTORS NOW TOO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. HEY I HAVE SEEN ALL KIND OF ABUSES IN THE GOVERNMENTS, CHURCHES, CIVIL AND PUBLIC SERVANTS,   BY THE POLICE, RCMP, ON THE NET, IN FAMILIES AS WELL THE LAST 4 DECADES TOO, but public exposure and prosecution of the abusers,   the really bad persons serves everyone’s best interest still too.
 
No! I rightfully do not accept personally any abuses quietly, and neither does God, especially not from any Pastor!
 
and I have often rightfully said how can I now expect the government leaders to be exemplary?  when the many evangelical pastors I have encountered to date were not, not even the evangelical ones..
  
(1 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop ( a ruling elder) , he desireth a good work. 2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
 
(1 Tim 3:11 KJV)  Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
 
(Gen 6:9 KJV)  These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
 
(Rom 5:12 KJV)  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Rom 3:23 KJV)  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
 
And why am I so rightfully hard on the evangelical pastors you say? Well firstly they should know more and even behave better than the rest, and not rather be more unacceptable religious hypocrites. I have mentioned recently how  one Pastor had lied on the net, he rewrote what I had posted to him.. and next did not post my subsequent responses to him too? Did that stop me, dream on, I just posted the truth on my own many popular sites for everyone to know what he did, is like too,   but at least the same pastor showed me how immorally he really was now too by what he did. Was I disappointed yet? Yes. Was I really surprised? No? ” For there still is nothing good in man! It is not just the lay persons who need to daily repent of their sins but all pastors now as well, preaching the gospel is never an acceptable alternative to living it too. I too would rightfully rather see a sermon first lived than one merely hypocritically preached to me. The Word of God is also like a two edged sword, it applies to the preacher as well as the one being preached to.
 
(1 Tim 5:24 KJV)  Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
 
(1 Tim 5:25 KJV)  Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.
 
(Prov 9:9 KJV)  Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
 
(Prov 20:7 KJV)  The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him.
 
(Prov 24:16 KJV)  For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
 
(Eccl 7:20 KJV)  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
 
(Mark 6:20 KJV)  For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.
 
(Acts 10:22 KJV)  And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
 
(1 Pet 5:1 KJV)  The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
 
(1 Pet 5:2 KJV)  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
 
(1 Pet 5:5 KJV)  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another (Mutual submission), and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6   Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
 
(1 Pet 5:7 KJV)  Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
 
(1 Pet 5:8 KJV)  Be sober ( Don’t get drunk now too) , be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9  Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
 
(1 Tim 5:22 KJV)  Lay hands suddenly on no man,
neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.
  

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly (Not drunk) , righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

 
(Eph 5:18 KJV)  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
(Eph 5:19 KJV)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
(Eph 5:20 KJV)  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
(Eph 5:21 KJV)  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(Eph 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(Eph 5:25 KJV)  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

religious abuse

Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons

Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap

And  why should I still  be so surprised that so many Chuuch Ministers too now are objectionably alcoholics and adulterers as well?

  Just cause 70 percent of pastors admitted to having done adultery  or counselling divorce, or 30 percent evangelicals commit   divorce does still not  mean any of them are getting away with any of it next too

as I have said many times before, even since the Garden of Eden, the devil still lies about the truth and he still says to you that you will not die if you disobey God’s law.. and he does that about lusts, stealing, alcohol, adultery, divorce or whatever.. to keep the people in bondage in their wrongful sins.. but Adam and Eve still paid a price for their sins next, so do we all..

(John 4:37 KJV) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 
 

 

 

June 17, 2008

The Top ten posts read by many in the last Quarter.

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 Me I am a straight forward shooter, and I do  try to be transperently honest in all of my posts too, which also causes me to lose the bad friends, and to make some enemies too.

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

The Top ten posts read by many in the last Quarter on this site https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/
 

WordPress.com for sure has great religious interests, topics

(John 20:30 KJV)  And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

  
The top ten posts now in this site  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/ are..
  
Bell Sympatico  
Basic Contract law  
Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church  
Bell  
Bell Sympatico Canada  
CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE  
The war against Bell  
Bell Lied  
About  
To Bell Sympatico  

I was surprised in a comparison of my two wordpress.com  sites

 
 

that the religious topics still tend to be at least 2 to 5 times as Popular,
 
and clearly one of the most popular discussion topic is the ungodly religious wars between the protestant, catholics, pentecostals and Bagiptists, bretheren, etc., and the topic of bad pastors.
 

 

 

 

 

and I was surprised as to how popular the Bell Sympatico posts are too  on boith sites too.
 

June 16, 2008

Am I therefore become your enemy

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One mistake by a Catholic, Pentecostal, Charismatic preacher and it is undeniable, clearly seems even on the net too that the  other professing Christians  are quick and  ready to kill the wounded, to even bury them with further lies, distortions, slanders.. and what ever! The reaction of these still rather other bad guys is quite revealing, it firstly shows they have no love themselves too. That kind of approach won’t do much for the critics’ own positive feeling of  personal self worth, self esteem too. They clearly must really hate themselves next for doing so as  well.   So what happened to the Biblical instruction of personally showing love, staying humble, meek too?
 
(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.(Mat 5:5 KJV)  Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
 
(Mat 11:29 KJV)  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.(Mat 21:5 KJV)  Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.(1 Pet 3:4 KJV)  But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.(Heb 10:24 KJV)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:(Heb 12:3 KJV)  For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.(Rom 12:20 KJV)  Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.(Prov 24:17 KJV)  Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: 18  Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.(Gal 4:16 KJV)  Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

(2 Th 3:15 KJV)  Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

(James 4:4 KJV)  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

It is a sad known fact that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc., who seem to have been readying too many men’s commentaries should firstly now go back to reading the Bible and practice it themselves.. wrongfully seem to love to bash, hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that to fill that God shaped vacuum they they feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians do so as well.. they are certainly not being led by person of the Holy Sprit to do this.. but by the devil too.,, and you can tell that by their lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians..

Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor had told me what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. a bit just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the close relatives told me first hand a whole different story. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, had been even separated from his wife as well, and had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well..  Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.
 
Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.

Do see also https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots/

“Thank you for your comment. I will agree with you that it is important to live our lives as God desires for us too. One important point is simply that without reading God’s Word on a regular basis we cannot know exactly how to live.I do have on question for you: Where did you get the stat “70 percent of evangelical pastors are unChristian”? Just curious about that.”
 
I would not be so quick to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too.
 
Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too.
  

I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter.

But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open.

The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.

I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too.

I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too.

None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?

Now since you do really know your Bible you know that the Bible already says says that adultery is God’s punishment to those at whom he is upset at.. and I can think of many bad things that pastors do that upset God… this adultery is all so common and where have you been?

I was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.

I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.

When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not.

I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too

I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.

and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

 Further  comments not needed for one cannot deny the truth.
 

 

Parrots

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Too many even professing Christian persons  are still parrots, they have not really read the Bible for themselves, they really do not know the Bible or God for that matter still too.. they are repeating what others have told them, and too often often it is distorted truths,  lies..
 
(James 1:19 KJV)  Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20  For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
 
(James 1:21 KJV)  Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
 
(James 1:22 KJV)  But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
 
>>how can a Christian be possessed by a demon if the Holy Spirit resides there? it HAS to be one or the other but NEVER both.

The answer is simple, it lies in a person’s continual free will, he chooses God’s way or the devil.. any time too..
 
The Bible’s  King Saul is a great example of this too.
 
I know for sure once professing Christians who now are demon possessed, the evil spirit from their father next descended upon them, for they had allowed it to occur too..  or they had been seduced to do so…
 
5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too… reality
 
Now face it.
 
We all need to start with the premises that there are false prophets but also true prophets, for throwing out the dirty baby with the wash water is absurd too.. all of us are basically still ignorant of the Holy Spirit and his works,
 
for we have our essays too often on the devil ,,
 
Too many commentaries, critics  expect all prophets to be perfect, which they were not, even the great old testament prophet that was Moses was a sinner, and sinned seriously
 
Jesus alone is perfect not us.. God still uses sinners for prophets today
 
(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
(Mark 10:21 KJV)  Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
 
(Luke 12:33 KJV)  Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
(Psa 14:1 KJV)   The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
 
(Psa 14:3 KJV)  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 
(Psa 53:3 KJV)  Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 
(Prov 11:17 KJV)  The merciful man doeth good to his own soul: but he that is cruel troubleth his own flesh.
 
(Eccl 7:20 KJV)  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
 
(Rom 3:12 KJV)  They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 
(3 John 1:11 KJV)  Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
 
It is still an unacceptable sin and not rather supposed love  for Baptist, brethren, any goners to hate, promote hatred against the Charismatics, Christian Pentecostals or the Christian Catholics too, or any others.
 
(Luke 11:13 KJV)  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
 
(Luke 11:21 KJV)  When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:22   But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. 24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.25  And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
 
(Luke 11:27 KJV)  And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.28  But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
 
(Luke 11:17 KJV)  But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. 18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.19   And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.20  But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
 
(Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. 6  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9  Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10  Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
 
(Mat 7:12 KJV)  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
 
(Mat 7:13 KJV)  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
 
(Mat 7:14 KJV)  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
(Mat 7:15 KJV)  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 
(Mat 7:16 KJV)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 
(Mat 7:17 KJV)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
 
(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
 
(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
 
(Mat 7:23 KJV)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
(Mat 7:24 KJV)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
 
I have a good rule in counseling or listening to others, when I start to hear cliches. non original remarks, parrot talk, I tend to know these people are basically not honest, not sincere, and they cannot be helped still too..
 
and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts
 
(Deu 8:2 KJV)  And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
 
(Deu 8:16 KJV)  Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end;
 
(2 Chr 7:14 KJV)  If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
 
(2 Chr 34:27 KJV)  Because thine heart was tender, and thou didst humble thyself before God, when thou heardest his words against this place, and against the inhabitants thereof, and humbledst thyself before me, and didst rend thy clothes, and weep before me; I have even heard thee also, saith the LORD.
 
(Job 22:29 KJV)  When men are cast down, then thou shalt say, There is lifting up; and he shall save the humble person.
 
(Psa 9:12 KJV)  When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.
 
(Psa 34:2 KJV)  My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
 
(Psa 69:32 KJV)  The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
 
(Prov 16:19 KJV)  Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
 
(Prov 29:23 KJV)  A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
 
(Isa 57:15 KJV)  For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 
(Jer 13:18 KJV)  Say unto the king and to the queen, Humble yourselves, sit down: for your principalities shall come down, even the crown of your glory.
 
(Mat 18:4 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
 
(Mat 23:12 KJV)  And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
 
(James 4:6 KJV)  But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
 
(James 4:10 KJV)  Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
 
(1 Pet 5:5 KJV)  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
 
(1 Pet 5:6 KJV)  Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

 

June 13, 2008

What is the general Christian sentiment towards Pentecostalism?

What is the general Christian sentiment towards Pentecostalism?

Incidentally I got this email this week saying..

> – I will be relocating to the USA (San Diego, CA) in the next 1-2
> months to pursue further studies, and will be here for at least 4
> years…
> – What is the state of the Pentecostal church in the USA, are there
> many churches? I learnt not too long ago (to my huge surprise) that
> the Pentecostal movement, which is so widespread and growing in the
> rest of the world (including Australia) is a minority in the USA.
> What is the general Christian sentiment towards Pentecostalism?
> – Do you know much about the Christian climate in the USA today? What
> is it like? As a foreign Christian coming to the US, is there
> anything you think I should know, or educate myself about?

In my reply I had said… Firstly Pentecostals are often undeniably and wrongfully hated in Canada AND IN THE US by the fundamental evangelicals, Baptists, Brethren, others. and many Pnetacostals, including even the CMA- Christian & Missionary Alliance,  – Alliance, PAOC, AOG are all no saints still too.. and you can see great examples of how they all do poorly behave towards others on the net often too

There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors  too Canada wide where in my many personal encounters, experiences  that I had  in the last 4 decades too but I did rightfully did not throw out the baby with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead..

THE STATE OF THE CHURCH IN THE US IS A PRETENTIOUS ONE, A SOCIAL CLUB, MONEY HUNGRY PEOPLE AND ALSO SEX ORIENTED, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO DESPISE THE POOR PEOPLE TOO.. The high divorce rate even amongts the evangelicals substantiates this too.

AND it seems they all need to be told what the Bible actually says firstly, for only 5 percent of Christians read their Bible, and only 25 percent of people are saved in the Christian churches… pastors included now.. few of them pray except for their own selfish needs..

Most evangelical pastors are still hirelings, only care about getting more money it still seems too..

Beware when men say good things about you, for RATHER IN TRUTH they had prosecuted the many good prophets before you.

Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor had told me what a reliable, honorable man my father in law was, I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. bit just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the close relatives told me first hand a whole different story. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, had been even separated from his wife as well, and had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. Next really I could not see anything Christian about him now as well..  Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.
   
(Mat 10:17 KJV) But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

(Col 2:8 KJV) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

(Mat 5:11 KJV) Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

(Mat 5:12 KJV) Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

(Mat 5:22 KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

(Acts 17:11 KJV) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

I have had over a decade of pentacostal experiences and I had more decades of Baptist, Brethren experiences too.

One sole initially reason I had left the Baptist, Brethren church is their false hatred, false bashing of the Pentecostals.. and I was not even a Pentecostal at that time but I could see how unkind, unloving most of the fundamental Christians, Baptists who did this bashing, bullying as to what they really were like.. clearly their own fruits, actions showed to all what they were firstly like. The other reason I left them was also because of their clear ignorance of the Bible itself, it was almost deliberate too. They too often actually had refused to mention, or to quote, discuss the Bible never mind honestly too in my decades of experiences with them, and with many, many of their pastors now too..

Now I have often shared my view that fundamental pastors does not recognize the authority existence of Apostles, Prophets especially while pastors , plural term too, are only mentioned once in the new testament now in contrast to the others- elders, apostle’s prophets’ mentioning, existence.. it seems it was because they the pastors refused to mutually submit to others, for pride and rebellion are classical common and historical sins even of many church leaders now too.

>>But why would a prophet set up a website that resembles nothing more than than the “Christian” version of a gossip magazines.

Firstly my how personal and judgmental that above remarks to me appears.. especially in the light when we know for sure that most pastors are immoral, meaning really non perfect and yet all of a sudden the New testament prophet is to be a perfect man.. when for a record one of the greatest old testament prophets Moses, was also now imperfect, quite wrong, punished, for his sin of disobeying God, not allowed to go to the promise land too. Let us be consistent then to both groups.. all of the pastors, prophets too.. Ironically the way they the professing Christians try to bash Pentecostals on many Christians sites reminds me more of ungodly, secular person’s behavior rightfully now too.

Let’s be fair all the old testament prophets were often condemned, not accepted as well.. so now even why would it be different today? EVEN HERE?

“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf

Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.

I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?

Why?? most people are bad sheep who follow the leaders, or Ostriches when it comes to negative truths..

Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away from the Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly and they have a very similar church management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the expenditures to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..

Yes the same Christian Missionary alliance church, rather Corporation.. the bad so called church that our Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper goes too. The Christian and Missionary Alliance (COMA) is an Evangelical Protestant denomination within Christianity. Founded by Rev. Albert Benjamin Simpson in 1887, the Christian & Missionary Alliance did not start off as a denomination, but rather began as two distinct Para church organizations: The Christian Alliance which focused on the pursuit and promotion of the Higher Christian life and The Evangelical Missionary Alliance, which focused on mobilizing “consecrated” Christians in the work of foreign missionary efforts. These two groups amalgamated in 1897 to form The Christian and Missionary Alliance. It was only much later during the mid twentieth century that an official denomination was formed. See my posts on the CMA.. It is owned and controlled by a Corporation. The Pentecostal Assembly of Canada, PAOC broke away from this corporation and formed it’s own corporation, so called church..

It was very interesting fact that the clearly bad pastors of TACF Toronto Airport Church fellowship had resorted to a commercial lawsuit over rather resorting to pray in dealing with one of their critics,
 
Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now  are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.

It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
It is absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.

Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”  

and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize, preach  AND PRACTICE this still too.
  
When I go public I often get threats of a lawsuit, not just the politicians sending the police to my door, but I do not back off, and I always seem to tell them to go ahead.. the lawsuit will give the matter more publicity too.. and they back off.
   

Can anyone sue for defamation of character/libel/slander for PERSONAL statements made even on the Internet? But if it’s true there is no CASE for defamation or slander. And if it is NOT true they still will have to show specific, related proof of actual damages, not just some supposed potential damages. Furthermore the law still requires that they do reply to all allegations in the manner they had firstly have received them immediately too, within a reasonable period of time, and if they have not bothered to deny, reply to, to object any of the charges of wrong doings, allegations initially, after a reasonable period of time, a maximum of 6 months they not longer can do so, for now it is accepted they are true. Do ALL stop being sue crazy or nicky picky too.

Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.
 
The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.

 

 

 

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/distorters-disrupters-decievers/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/   

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/

 

June 11, 2008

The true Church of Jesus Christ

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(Acts 17:11 KJV) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
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All that shines like Gold is not necessarily God, rather too often it is still fool’s gold. Jesus Christ personally now had died for my sins so I now next can go to heaven and be eternally with Him, and not rather so I could join the Mormon church and listen to their false teachings. http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/mormonism-vs-biblical-teachings-about-jesus/
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The biggest shock for me was to discover that Mormons basically do not first know, read, practice the New Testament so it is no wonder they are a lost cause, cult.
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 The true Church of Jesus Christ is not the Church of Jesus Christ of the latter day saints for sure for a start. Having an appearance of Godliness only! A Mormon, a latter day false saint, had often said to me that the LSD church is the only true Church cause it has Jesus Christ in it’s name, but I still do know that one of the best way to catch fish, suckers is with real live bait, worms or minnows too. What an absurd argument alone now too that the LDS is now a true Christian Church, or that they are the sole true saints, when they the LDS clearly do not daily read, follow the Bible itself for sure, rather they mostly do follow the false teachings of their false teachers, false elders, false prophets. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/like-all-cults-mormons-do-tend-to-get-really-upset-when-you-question-their-own-beliefs/..
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 You should see how insulting the Mormons write back to me  now too on this.. when a Mormon says he reads the Bible, he means the false books they themselves now have added to the Bible..
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The true Church of Jesus Christ would firstly not openly deny the Bible itself in it’s teaching, or lifestyle.
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The LDS Church of Jesus Christ would firstly not openly deny the Bible itself in it’s teaching, or lifestyle until what the the Bible actually says is quoted to them..
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Upon more detailed, closer examination most LSD members, adherents personal knowledge of the Bible itself is appalling, pathetic, unacceptable.
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THE MORMON CHURCH EVEN SAYS IT IS A PROGRESSIVE CHURCH AND THEY NOW HAVE CHANGED NOW THEIR PASTOR DOCTRINES IN REGARDS TO BLACK PEOPLE, AND POLYGAMY. THIS IS CONTRADICTORY, RIDICULOUS APPROACH FOR THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAD CLAIMED TO INSPIRED, LED BY ANGELS ORIGINALLY TOO. The Corrupted men’s teaching tend to not only useless but often leads others into more unacceptable sins too.
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 It is true Jesus is not a brother of Satan, he is God himself come down to earth in a human form. True Christians have a personal daily relationship with Jesus and Jesus today as well he talks to them as Jesus said they hear his voice. The Spirit of Christ, the Holy Sprit also leads, guides them only if they will let him.
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It seems that even in the so called Mormon Church some things have wrongfully not changed.. too many pastors, elders, deacons are fighting for positions, recognition, and seem to have forgotten the rest of the flock..
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“For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd” (Jesus, the Shepherd (“poimen”) which means pastor) and Bishop (Overseer) of your souls. (1 Peter 2:25).”And when the chief Shepherd (JESUS) shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.”
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The true Church of Jesus Christ also has in reality Jesus Christ, who is God come to earth in the flesh, and His Holy Spirit, as the sole head of the church, not some apostate men.
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No one can dispute that Christ supposedly is no longer the head of the Church, and yet many do try to do this and why? They want to wrongfully exalt themselves or some mere man or women.. and they serve the devil too.. The true Christian Church relies on faith in the finished work, the shed blood of Jesus Christ alone for their salvation from all of our personal sins and death, hell, and not genealogy or personal good works or even religious works. I was also shocked as to how false, hypocritical now the Mormons, or the LSD really are when they clearly lie and say they do not bash other religions, viewpoints, but they too readily distort the historical facts, teachings of the Bible, the true Christians, the true Christian Church still. While all sides claim to believe the Bible is the word of God, they seem to explain it all very differently… the problem to me it seems is that clearly one group is doing it mostly in their own wisdom, not in God’s, they are not allowing the Holy Spirit to guide, teach them, but rather the flesh, mere men and the devil.. but next each one says still the other group is doing this.. the same professing Christian group that has a low emphasis on Jesus Christ, who is God himself and His Holy Spirit is the one in error.
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Third John 1:9-11. I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth [them] out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
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The Mormon tried to also tell me that this so called church is true cause it tithes, it’s apostles, prophets, teachers, Presbyterians, pastors receive no salaries. But now they are Counterfeit still rather for their false version of Jesus is for sure not the Jesus most Christians believe in..

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“Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews only). Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws; but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in the believer s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament. It is known as the grace of giving ; The gauge or rule of this systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing. All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to God ( ? ) – THE PAOC The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking “
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THE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO ENFORCE TITHING today, 10 percent of all of your income to be given to the local storehouse pastors, AS AN APPLICABLE MINIMUM GIVING STANDARD IN THE CHURCH ARE LYING, intentionally or unintentionally even if they are the PAOC too. Jesus today wants all of you, everything you own, not just the 10 percent, to be fully under his control, a living sacrifice to God and that includes your body, soul and spirit and all of your money now as well. All of it. Deny yourself, Take up your cross and follow him
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Tithing, the giving of 10 percent of one’s income to local storehouse, temple, is an old testament teaching, non compulsory in the new testament, but people who tithe, had to give a portion, 1/7 of the tithe to the local poor people, and yet no Mormon would assure me that this was being done for sure.
Apostle Paul had made it clear that Christian workers can now still receive an adequate pay, salary for their work now too. Not receiving a salary does not mean one is more spiritual, it is their choice not to do so still too.
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The apostle Judas was good example of some of the bad pastors we have in the church today.. who cared about his own agenda, his own importance, about monetary gains too.
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Speaking of Judas, Acts 1:19 says, “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take”. But, look what that passage in Psalms says referring to Judas, “Let his days be few; [and] let another take his office”. Psalm 109:8. “Bishoprick” means office of a bishop. So, Judas had an office of a bishop or a bishoprick. (One of twelve offices or “bishopricks”). But, Judas had no church, nor authority, and was not over the other apostles. Jesus called him to a service, a ministry, a work, or an “office”, and sent him out with the other disciples to preach the gospel. ” Like Judas it should be obvious even today still that the too many rather hirelings not true shepherds in the Ministry that tend not to live by faith. to live by faith that God, not man will supply all of their personal needs now as well. Besides that too many religious workers, rather mere “Hirelings” do still lie when they say they do not have a fixed salary, income, sadly, they neglect to mention their designated, fixed expense accounts, budgets, supports, privileges that they have access too.. (2 Cor 6:14 KJV) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; (1 Peter 5:1-2)
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Let us also make it clear that the Holy Spirit assigns you a specific flock to look after.. but the flocks still all belongs to God, is His alone… Jesus Christ is Lord of all, and I have yet to hear a Mormon personally say that and personally apply that too and believe it.. Cory 1:10-13 says, “Now I beseech you, brethren, BY THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; (sects or denominations) but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

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How can you love and serve two masters? The Bible says you can’t. Whose name will you serve? In the name of Jesus, or in some man-made sectarian name? “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served….BUT AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD.” Josh 24:15.

(1 Cor 11:1 KJV) Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 1 John 2:27 “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

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2 Tim 4:3-4, it says, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth.”.

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“But Jesus called them [to him], and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all”. Mark 10:42-44.

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“Not for that we have dominion over your faith , but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand” 2 Cor 1:23.

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The true Christians who know their Bible immediately recognized that supposedly latter day saints, the Mormons still do teach about another Another Jesus?
The Jesus according to the Book of Mormon is a different Jesus? A distorted one. The name Jesus is actually the Greek form of the name of Joshua (Yeshua) meaning “Jehovah is salvation”.
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In the 2nd letter to the Corinthians Paul warns about the very real possibility of another Jesus, a false Jesus different from the Jesus Paul had presented to the Corinthians.
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For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4
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The fact is, the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints have a “Jesus” central to their teachings but the Jesus presented in the Bible, is not the same as the LDS Jesus. The Jesus presented in the New Testament, is God himself, fulfilling the prophecies of the Old Testament as the son og God son who will redeem all mankind surely

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But, behold, my Beloved Son which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever. Pearl of Great Price, Moses 4:1-2
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Does it really matter if the LDS Jesus and the Jesus of the Bible have different aspects? Our true Jesus himself now comments about false prophets, works done in his name and eternal destiny in the Gospel

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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:15,22-23
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Without the Biblical Jesus you cannot be saved. The Mormon Jesus did not die for your sins. How can they even be saved?
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Believing in a False Jesus and teaching others a lie is a sin.they must be willing to repent of such sins.
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For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
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The LDS falsely teaches Jesus was the spirit child of a heavenly Father and Mother, who had brothers including Satan. They also teach the Mormon heavenly father was once a man of flesh who “Became” God. And that it is within the potential of all obedient Mormons to also become a god like Jesus and the Heavenly father, having spirit children with their eternal wives. “God exists and we had better strive to be prepared to be one with them” (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 7:238)
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“As man is, God once was: as God is, man may become” (Prophet Lorenzo Snow, quoted in Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, 105-106) Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point where He now is” (Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 1:123)
Where was Jesus actually now Born? According to the both the Old and New Testaments the Messiah (Christ) was to be born in the city of Bethlehem, a distinct city from Jerusalem. (Micah 5:2, Luke 2:4-16, Matthew 2:1-6, John 7:42) According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus was born in the city of Jerusalem, not in Bethlehem.
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Was Jesus married? Not according to the Bible, Jesus was never married, in fact the Bride of Christ is called the church in Ephesians and elsewhere in scripture (See Matthew 25:1-10, Revelation 19:6-14, 2 Corinthians 11:2)

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Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; Ephesians 5:25
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However, the Mormon Jesus was not only married, but he was married to three women, two them being sisters. In addition to three wives, Jesus also had children he saw before he was crucified. Jesus also married Mary and Martha and the other Mary at Cana of Galilee, “Whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified” (Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 4:259; 2:82)
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Where Jesus and Satan brothers? not related at all.. The Bible informs us Satan, means “Adversary” in Hebrew was a Cherub angel created perfect by God, who became jealous of God and demanded worship from the other angels. According to scripture, Jesus created all things (John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2), this would include Lucifer before he choose to rebel. Jesus on the other hand was the Son of God, to be worshipped by all the angels when He came into the world.
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.” 8 But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:6,8
Unless Jesus was God, the angels would be sinning by worshipping another angel. God on the other hand commands the angels to worship the Son whom He calls God.
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The Mormon Jesus according to Joseph Smith’s revelation is the brother of Satan who had a competing plan of salvation. God the Father, choose Satan’s brother, the Mormon Jesus’ plan for salvation.
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Yes there are many other false teachings contradicting the Bible in the Mormon Church now too.
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We all must accept Jesus Christ, the Biblical Jesus, the Son of God as our Lord and Savior, who died for our sins. Jesus said, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life (John 3;16)

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Did Jesus have a Heavenly father and Mother? The Bible tells us Jesus, was eternal before his incarnation into the body of Man. He was God in the Old Testament who came took upon Himself human form.

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The Bible tells us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (John 1:9).

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Yet these people rejected by Jesus thought they were doing good works in His name; including prophesizing and casting out demons. The one thing they lacked was they did not know Jesus. He says to them, I never knew you. They in fact knew another Jesus, but not our real Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the LDS is another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Bible.

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Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”. (John 14:6)

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(Acts 20:28 KJV) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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(Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. (1 Cor 9:14 KJV) “Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. ”
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2 And there is and always will be only one God and one Bible now too, one true Church and it is not the church of the Latter day saints. This is the reality
3 Latter day saints, the Mormons are not real Christians especially since they do not read or practice the Bible but use the false book of Mormon as their main guide instead. The Mormons always show their unacceptable Bible ignorance to anyone who reads and knows the Bible too.
4: Now as we also know tithing is itself an invalid old testament applications used by many Church thieves today to collect money under false pretences.
Read the Bible for yourself and know the truth over men’s lies, distortions, spins.. http://pbulow.tripod.com/
DO ALSO SEE

http://pbulow.tripod.com/tradition.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/polygamy.htm

“You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life.” John 5:39-40:

Jesus said in Matthew 11:28: “Come to me all you who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.”

John 6:35 records Jesus as saying: “…I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.”

Similarly, Jesus also said in John 7:37: “…if any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.”

The Bible clearly records many instances where Christ is freely worshipped by the disciples: -John 9:38 states: “Then the man said: “Lord, I believe,” and he worshipped Him [Christ]. ” -Matthew 14:33 records that after the miracle of walking on water, the disciples worshipped Christ: “And those who were in the boat worshipped Him, saying, “You are certainly God’s Son!” -Matthew 28:9 records the following incident concerning the disciples reaction to the risen Christ: “And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshipped Him.” -Later in the same chapter of Matthew, in verse 17, the disciples are again recorded as worshipping the risen Christ: “And when they saw Him, they worshipped Him; but some were doubtful.” -As John 5:23 clearly states that equal honour should be given to the Son as is given to the Father, then this must include worship, praise, and prayer to the Son: “in order that all may honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent Him.” The implications of this verse are clear. You give Christ the same honour as the Father if you worship Him and pray to Him, but if you refuse to worship Him, you do not honour Him, nor the Father. On the contrary, failure to honour the Son, is a denial of the Son and the Father. 1 John 2:23 states that “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.”

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other biblical examples of Christ being worshipped is found in the New Testament letters: -Philippians 3:3 says that “…we who are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus…” -Those in Heaven show by their testimony that it is right to worship the Lord Jesus. Hebrew 1:6 declares: “…Let all the angels of God worship Him.” – Revelation 5:8-14 records a powerful scene in Heaven where the “twenty-four elders”, thousands and thousands of angels, and “the living creatures” declaring praise to the Jesus the Lamb of God:”saying with a loud voice, “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honour and glory and blessing.” And every created thing which is in heaven and on earth and under the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honour and glory and dominion forever and ever.” And the four living creatures kept saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshipped.”

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and the Bible clearly records instances whereby Christ is rightly prayed to. Acts 7:54-60 records the last words of the apostle Stephen before he was martyred: “And they went on stoning Stephen as he called upon the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And having said this, he fell asleep.”

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Mormons do not have a Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ. “Do you have a personal relationship with Christ?”, the question was asked of the Mormon missionary. “Yes we do, the Church believes in Jesus Christ, and honours Him as the Saviour”, came the reply. However, when the following questions were asked: “But do you really have a relationship with Him? Do you pray to Jesus and worship Him?” “Well, we pray through Him to Heavenly Father.” It was then asked of the missionary: “Can I ask you, would you pray to Jesus tonight, the Jesus of the Bible?”, to which the reply came: “No. I will not do that.” This true account is typical of the conversations that I have personally had with many Mormons over the years. Mormons claim to honour Christ but fail to give Him the prominence that He rightly deserves.” Bruce R. McConkie, http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/mormrel.htm

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 see also http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/those-who-fear-the-bible/

May 30, 2008

“Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry still?

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Hey I really do admit I do dislike any person who so readily can see the other persons sins, can list the other persons supposed wrongs, but cannot face, admit, list their own wrongs.. and I especially do rightfully think all pastors need to show a much better example here too.. The TACF pastors  included.

For a very very long time this remains as a popular post for  sadly the infighting amongst various Christian churches seems to continue as each one tries to prove it is the greatests in the kingdom of heaven? http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/the-need-of-one-distancing-their-good-works-from-their-evil-ones/

“USING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF AIRD & BERLIS AND HOWARD WINKLER OF TORONTO,   APOSTLE JOHN ARNOTT, SENIOR PASTOR STEVE LONG, AND THE BOARD OF THE EVANGELICAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP NOW RENAMED CATCH THE FIRE, (PLAINTIFS AND CREDITORS,)    SUED A TOTAL STRANGER FOR $ 50 MILLION DOLLARS AND BY COMMITTING  PERJURY, FABRICATION OF EVIDENCE AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE”
While it is absolutely true that the love of Jesus for us, in that while we were yet sinners, he loved us and forgives, is  the biggest personal drawing force to God.. one of the saddest realization of mine next in real life is that half of the once loudly professing Christians will depart from real  faith next due to a variety of false reasons, such as the false pursuit of riches, being seduced, incomplete repentance, false denial of one sins.. etc., finally thus they are unwilling to pay the actual  price, to take up their cross and to follow  fully after God .  Divorce also clearly is till  is not a valid teaching, doctrine of  of the Christian church  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/
1/7 of the tithe collected by the priests was to be disbursed to the local poor people, the new testament equivalent of the churches weekly distribution to the poor persons,  and how many of these church pastors who try to enforce tithing today keep even this obligations? Almost none and why was that? Greed.. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
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“Aird & Berlis did their Client Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship,  John Arnott and Steve Long a disservice by trying to bury  their “ financial and hate crimes” and by trying to destroy Mr. Walter Kambulow, the whistleblower, using the court system instead of telling their client to come clean!” http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/aberrational-theology/fraud-embezzlement-illegal-tax-free-benefits-by-the-executives-of-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-john-arnott-and-steve-long-2
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using the same courts, media  to abuse one another  IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TACF PASTORS FIRSTLY.
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Then a man of God came to Eli and said to him, “Thus says the LORD: ‘Did I not clearly reveal Myself to the house of your father when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh’s house?  ‘Did I not choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be My priest, to offer upon My altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod before Me? And did I not give to the house of your father all the offerings of the children of Israel made by fire? ‘Why do you kick at My sacrifice and My offering which I have commanded in My dwelling place, and honor your sons more than Me, to make yourselves fat with the best of all the offerings of Israel My people?’  “Therefore the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I said indeed that your house and the house of your father would walk before Me forever.’ But now the LORD says: ‘Far be it from Me; for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed. 1 Samuel 2:27-30

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“It seems to me part of the problem is that the Assembly of God denomination allows ministers to preside over board meetings instead of   church members, as in other more democratically operated Protestant churches.

We all like the pleasant things of God and life, and shy away from unpleasant and controversial things, such as the present day sins of the pastors and evangelists in this great land. We say things such as ‘touch not God’s anointed’ and some of us worship them as kings. The Prophet Isaiah reminded us:

“Be a shelter to them from the face of the spoiler. For the extortioner is at an end, devastation ceases, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.” (Isaiah 16:4)

Sometimes, others see and know more about the truth of the Kings of Israel and others in that they were largely spoilers, thieves, liars and oppressors. Not all Kings in Israel in bible times were good and kind; most of them were terribly wicked and despots.

As a denomination, the Assembly of God has not accepted responsibility for the actions of their prominent members in their organization. It has done nothing to bring justice and healing to the real victims in these cases. Instead, they it has chosen to console and comfort the aggressors, the noble ones, and the perpetrators of the crimes. The victims were mostly elderly people, who didn’t have the physical strength or financial resources to fight back and recover what they lost. ” http://walthope.tripod.com/

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It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  SUCH AS TACF AS WELL too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever.

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FOR WE TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
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As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?
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I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.
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(Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
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There are still much too many persons with a big bad mouth even  in my own related families, who got so used to wagging  their big bad  tongues, telling their lies about others, that next  they had falsely started to think they all can and will get away with it for ever.. and they are next shocked when they are rightfully not only rebuked, but  fully exposed to all as to who they are really .. as slanderers, liars and human rights abusers..
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Clearly now I too got really tired of being lied to and abused by much too many professional bullies, perverts that I encounter too often in life now still, even in society, churches too  so I next started to openly, personally expose them and to make them reap real personal negative consequences rightfully here too..
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  Here is another simple fact of undeniable truth of life.. All of us seem to spend a lot of time trying to find our personal happiness in life, and many seem to fail at it, so we then tend to try to blame our failure here next on being the fault of others..  The problem firstly now here often starts with one’s false definition of happiness.
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Happiness generally, firstly is doing a job well that you like to do and so  many people are unhappy cause they are also unrealistic, and lazy.  Most persons also next do not become deliberately despots or perverts in life from birth, it is a decision they generally do on their own make later in life.. Our self-worth, self esteem is a direct result of the good things you do , have done.. do the bad things and you will have a low self worth, poor self acceptance, and it is a waste of time thus to blame it mostly on the others.
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(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
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Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
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It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seemsMany Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
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(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
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The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicans, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.
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Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
Yes, the Bad pastors, bad elders, bad cops, bad politicians  continue to exist  cause likely their supporters are  also now bad too.
  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
My own twin brother Walter had written to me   some interesting comments about the need to deal with hireling type preachers and it should include their restitutions as well.. Would be nice if everyone practiced it now too.
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Wrongful inactions, Cover ups, False denial of bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, false pastors, false priests are much too common but nevertheless they do get exposed, revealed to all as to what they are often now like  too, and get what they deserve, and not the first or last time.

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“Unfortunately most religious leaders today seem to be hirelings and not true shepherds! All they care about is their own ministry and self interests and not the best interest of the sheep!

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The bottom line is that if you forgive some people without dealing with the issues at hand, the judgment that will fall on them from God will also fall on you! Numbers 16 tells us what happens when you join forces with the wrong people to do evil and wicked things!
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Christians can be exploited as well
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Most evangelicals teach mandatory  forgiveness! And in a sense we forgive the person that did the act but we don’t forgive the act and according to Matthew 5:21-26, Luke 18:1-8, Hebrews 10:26-26, and Revelation 2:18-23 we anticipate God to avenge us if there is no restitution or repentance.
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Evangelicals love to talk about THE NEED OF OTHERS FOR forgiveness but not much THEIR OWN ACTS SUCH AS tacf OR about bona fide repentance and restitution! ( Why?)
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John 19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 19:6 So he made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 19:7 But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner.” 19:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.” 19:9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham; Zacchaeus demonstrated his faith not only by his repentance but by restitution! “
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FOR WE ALL TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
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And once exposed most people do not accept, support  a crook, even if it is a Minister now too.
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Most people still rightfully do blame the governments, politicians, bad cops and bad judges, for the existence of much too many crooked civil and public servants, crooked business persons, crooked persons in Canada.  More Laws that are unenforced also tend to be still mostly useless too. Let’s simply just agree the whole system is often corrupt, eh?
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We need better Policing and “Tougher penalties for sure!” You will get a longer jail sentence for robbing a convenience store of $50 than fleecing consumers,  investors for millions (billions) or stealing any of the tax payer’s money.    Put all of the criminals in jail, and their bad supervisors now too,  where they belong, and always do  take way from them all that they have stolen now as well..  Restitution of all items stolen should be in the criminal sentencing now as well..  Until people start getting fired and criminal charges are laid, the bad acts of theirs will continue. And do amend the criminal code to include a mandatory 5 year minimum jail sentence and a fine not less than 10 times the money involved, for breach of public trust. This amendment would cover all forms of corruption from conflict of interest to false accounting. By the time the first dozen or so of these crooks have been banged up – the rest won’t find a bad public office so attractive once they know they can’t abuse,  fleece the citizens, consumers, taxpayer.
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LK 17:3 “Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty still serves as a rightful deterrent example to all and is still one of the best approaches on how to deal with the evil persons. Even the Bible records openly the unrepentant sins of many persons and their real  negative consequences. Too many of the preachers are unacceptably also guilty of preaching “Do what I say and not what I do still too”.
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Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind, and  yes church pastors included now, for  there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for the Church pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. reaping for their lies, misdirection.. and it is also still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back, and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly now  is an unacceptable  common occurrence yes  in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and sadly this is now how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse also starts to talk to any others now about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..

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There are yes too many  false sheep who worship those crooked leaders, shepherds, pastors dressed in nice suits. Not trying to impress anyone, or showing off I next went to a new church dressed in my clean, regular daily clothes. I next too was surprised when now one said hello to me nor did they great me, and a few services later this continued to happen. So I prayed about it and to my surprise God said they were harlots, prostitutes. Embarrassed at this revelation I decided I would fully proof for myself this was true. So next Sunday I put on a white shirt, tie, nice black pants, and a white sports jacket and most everyone said hello  to me. Incidentally the same thing happens to me on the bus as well.. Why?  Also the very same pastor of this professing Christian church dressed there in a nice suit who also did not talk to me as well was next charged with abuse, slander, lying, misappropriation of church funds, and was eventually fired. Now these days when I see these peacock members, deacons, ushers  strutting around church in their fancy suits trying to impress the others , it causes me to be sick to my stomach still. It would be better if they used the money rather to help the poor and needy in their own church..

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POWER, CONTROL BUT ALSO NOW MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS TACF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO.. they seem to collect money under false pretences too often  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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Why do some of the too often dirty Canadian pastors think they still can get away with it? TACF AS WELL but  not for long!

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Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely

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The spin game  “Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. “A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective postive comments so far.. real negative comments were, are excluded. I too do have to admit that “bless the Outpouring” of God sounds too pharisical”.  Rather they should really say “we pray that the leaders also themselves set a good example by their personal repentence, godly behaviors”.
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Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor now IN THE PAST HAD OFTEN  on his own had told me now what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, so  I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. now a bit later, just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the real close relatives told me first hand now a whole different story from what the local pastor had told me. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, he had been even separated from his wife as well, and he had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. That was all news to me, a past  hidden family secret. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well.. Now Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor  or family members now too.  But in Canada TODAY IT SEEMS  70 percent of the preachers now are bad, rally not called by God.  Never mind the rest of the flock. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/
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Many many pastors do wrongfully still  do think that the citizens complaints about them it is all a big joke, they do laugh at it, mock them too. Write a letter to a pastor and see if they even do  even acknowledge it. AND WHEN THEY DO IT IS FULL OF LIES.
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Pastors do too often falsely think they are above the laws of the country  and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. How hypocrtical OF THEM. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the Christian, evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and really work for God rather then self. They all seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and yes  too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last perverts, crook. The bad Christian pastors seem to be trying to get falsely their rewards on earth  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also seem to preach. Who are they fooling but themselves as to what they really are.
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Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away penteocstals  from the US Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly, the CMA is also the church of Stephen Harper Canada’s prime Minister  and they both do have a very similar church bad management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the CHURCH expenditures next to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..  with transpaerency and accountability.. sounds like PM Harper too.
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There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many past personal encounters experiences Canada wide too that I had , but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby, Jesus,  with the dirty wash water. Rather next I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead.. 1/12 only and did the rest…
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”Your honor, there are more things than money—truth, honesty and justice. He [Strader] hasn’t been honest, and he is seeking to avoid justice with money.” (Assistant state Attorney Wayne Durden, Polk County, Florida at the sentencing of Dan Strader, 1995)  The problem with lying and thieving preachers in America is that they all preach to others but never listen to others. They are after all better than their sheep?  Someone should tell preachers such as Karl Strader, Benny Hinn and Randy White, who said I was demon possessed and needed to get a life because I don’t do what they did, that robbing and raping the money and well being of the sheep under their care is not just a “white collar crime.” They should read their own bible that they talk so much about and see what God said to Eli and his raping and thieving sons:”
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Now as to ”Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?  Posted by Job on May 29, 2008  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell  and are taking at least one person to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his online books which are too hot for them to handle!
They are also upset because this person has asked  “So for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. See http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=1524 5 and http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm
They are also upset because this former member has asked the government authorities to investigate why it is okay for TACF Vice President Steve Long to publically solicit by mail for tax free funds to pay off TACF President John Arnott mortgage but  not publically solicit by mail to pay for this former member mortgage as well as all his legal costs as a result of TACF nonprofit charity suing this former member because he blew the whistle on their crimes, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, perjury, sins, etc.
It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada,  liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!
But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit  as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of  January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,”  a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.
And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of  Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian.  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!”
Read ( most of these sites have been deleted) Liars and Perjurers in Revival  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf Todd Bentley http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf The False Prophets” Oral and Richard Roberts “http://cnt10c.tripod.com/ or.htm “The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm “The Charlatan” Karl Strader  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm The Losers Randy and Paul White http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm Down in Flames  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rc.htm The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm “The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm “The Bishop” http://cnt10d.tripod.com/blong.htm Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm “The Thieving CEO” Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm The Pentecostal God Fraud http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/pentecostal/godfraud.shtml Why is Pentecostalism a danger for Christianity? http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Protestantism-3427/Pentecostal-danger-Christianity.htm TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm

But thenonconformer Says in reply  Hey this is a all a big Joke.. even about the  false Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters, Slander, and Walter Kambulow etc.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/ 

AT TIMES the Internet blogosphere lives up to its billing as the new frontier of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, religious and political discourse. But too often the blogs mainly still turn into an open sewer of rumors, lies, libels and adolescent  sins. WellI can tell the truth at least.. so we also  all can see the other side.   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
Walter Kambulow  knows firsthand how crooked religious corporations were, including the FGBMFI, which did not disclose to it’s donators how all of the money was next being used too. A portion sent to the us   headquarters AND FOR WHAT?. Most churches do not detail THEIR expenditures it seems these days, no full accountability and OR FULL transparency, EVEN like the professing Christian Stephen Harper and his government now as well.
WALTER HAD WANTED ENFORCED PASTORAL ACCOUNTIABLITY..  .
Walter wants the clearly bad pastors fired, punished for their lies, slander 
Those who sin rebuke before all and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke as well.
To get back at the local, Florida evangelical pastors    for their falsely counseling his wife Sandy behind his back and without his knowledge, permission, Walter Kambulow, of Burlinton Ontario, now in the last decade  had started a major holy religious war against the BAD  evangelical preachers in Canada, and the US, in writing on the net, and he finally  next got  sued for 50 million dollars in the Ontario Queen’s courts by some one claiming to be from the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church..  which was not really the truth.. no one NOW there had wanted to admit who really had authorized the suit or who was behind it , so the church lawsuit next got no where..
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Mind you these too often bad Pentecostal pastors even  Catholic priests,  or the Baptist pastors have really not been any better.
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and what about the bad Pentecostal pastors, they too do not repent.There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians or anyone for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net. So I do not.
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It is a clear fact  that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc.,  wrongfully seem to love to bash,  hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, and the Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that, to fill that empty, God shaped vacuum  that they do feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians  do so as well.. they are certainly all not being led by person of the Holy Spirit to do any of this.. but yes clearly by self and the devil too.,, and you can tell all that now by their own lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians.. simple too.
 
Yes, the  person being taken to court for his writings, expressing his feelings, rigth of free speech,  was, is firstly my own twin Brother Walter..
It appears that a pastor in Canada about 2 years ago had talked to Walter’s wife Sandy behind his back, without Walter’s rightful approval and knowledge, and ever since Walter was really rightfully  upset over this, and he next escalated the  wars against the bad pastors, in Canada and in the US.
And it is not all just about money, Church, pastoral thefts, misappropriation of funds is it? It is the perverse pastoral managerial styles of the churches, and their false disclosures, lack of accountability too, but much more, it is their intereference into one’s home, personal marriages to enlarge the relgious empires at any costs it seens.  
Walter was the person who had introduced me to Pentecostalism and even to the great Katherine Khulman, Benny Hynn too, and Walter went to many of Benny Hinn’s services too, and he had asked me to go too
 
Here also is what I know in Canada for sure ; most Catholic and evangelical Pastors tend to think they are very special, unaccountable to anyone but God and FALSELY ARE very arrogant too. Most pastors do not even bother to acknowledge  even as of this week letters, email sent to them as well AND I  find that very surprising when the News media personnel, editors and  reporters, Ministers, MPs do often write back to me.. but not the  supposedly Christian  Evangelcial, Pentecostal pastors, and I rarely get a letter from them  unless it is clearly a condemnation of something bad that I  had posted about them on the net, such as them being drunks, alcoholics. but I got a few of those too.
I admit I have also  been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked also now too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are well, the Salvation Army as well as the other professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too and why.
In reality too many people unsupervised, left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully ofteneven arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family or Church are still a reality too.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html
I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too.. But I know from many years of Canadian experiences that 70 percent of Christian pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..
and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..
Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches are not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
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Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….
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You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.

I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate not just all of the civil, public servants, politicians, in reality but also all of the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for alcoholism, drug usage,  possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it all firstly too.  Bad Ministers in the church or bad ministers in the goivernment are both uanccepteble and both should be fired too.

Hospitality tab at Passport Canada costs taxpayers $16,800: document   OTTAWA – Senior cabinet minister Peter MacKay approved a $16,800 hospitality bill for a group of civil servants in an apparent bending of government rules, a newly disclosed document shows
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected representatives too.
It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html  , https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
 
 
“Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ” http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf  and Sandy Kambulow herself is no  godly person as well as I also do know firsthand too.. and  none of these AIRPORT people here are really saints now as well..
“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf
Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.
  
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me..Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.
I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, and in Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?
Why?? most people are bad sheep who follow the leaders, or Ostriches when it comes to negative truths..
“It’s also to be noted that that Superior Court of Ontario heading of the Justice Campbell’s ruling concerning TACF et Al v. Kambulow stated it was a “commercial court” establishing the fact that Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a commerce suing Walter Kambulow as a commerce and it is not a church of Jesus Christ!”
 
When I go public I often get threats of a lawsuit, and not just the politicians sending the police to my door, but I do not back off, and I always seem to tell them to go ahead.. the lawsuit will give the matter more publicity too.. and they back off. Snakes seem to  hate the light and exposure.

Can anyone sue for defamation of character/libel/slander for PERSONAL statements made even on the Internet? But if it’s true there is no CASE for defamation or slander. And if it is NOT true they still will have to show specific, related proof of actual damages, not just some supposed potential damages. Furthermore the law still requires that they do reply to all allegations in the manner they had firstly have received them immediately too, within a reasonable period of time, and if they have not bothered to deny, reply to, to object any of the charges of wrong doings, allegations initially, after a reasonable period of time, a maximum of 6 months they not longer can do so, for now it is accepted they are true. Do ALL stop being sue crazy or nicky picky too.

“Thank you for your comment. I will agree with you that it is important to live our lives as God desires for us too. One important point is simply that without reading God’s Word on a regular basis we cannot know exactly how to live.I do have on question for you: Where did you get the stat “70 percent of evangelical pastors are unChristian”? Just curious about that.”
I would not be so quick to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too.
Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too.
I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.

A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter.

Just recently a pastor lied, on his site he had rewrittten what I had said to make the pastors look good and he made it fasely seem as I had written it.  Who did he lie to, Himself that he is even a godly pastor.

But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open.

I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too.

I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too.

None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?

Now since you do really know your Bible you know that the Bible already says says that adultery is God’s punishment to those at whom he is upset at.. and I can think of many bad things that pastors do that upset God… this adultery is all so common and where have you been?

I was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.

I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.

When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not.

I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too

I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.

and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

From: Bentley_Chris-MPP-CO Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:01 AM To: Paul Kambulow Cc: attorneygeneral@ontario.ca Subject: RE: about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. Good morning: Thank you for taking the time to contact Chris Bentley’s Constituency Office. I will bring your email to Mr. Bentley’s attention. Since your concerns are a matter for the Attorney General.  I have taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the Ministry of the Attorney General to be responded to.  If you would like to follow up with Mr. Bentley’s Toronto office directly please do not hesitate to contact (416) 326-2220 or 1-800-518-7901 attorneygeneral@ontario.ca. Thank you again,

Ashley Conyngham Constituency Assistant Chris Bentley, MPP London West 8-11 Base Line Road East London, Ontario N6C 5Z8 Tel: (519) 657-3120 Fax: (519) 657-0368 Mobile: (519) 281-2153

Paul Kambulow

Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can be truly honest, tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too?

At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders.”Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeat- edly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Charac- terizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord. (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! “

BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS

All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

I corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

(Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

(Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to..

I was visiting in Montreal when God spoke to me and said a NW  Calgary Evangelical ALLIANCE Church Pastor was bad mouthing me. I admit I got upset and said Lord why right did he have to do that? God replied that the did not share this truth to upset me but rather for me to give God permission to deal with it. Within a few days of my return to Calgary I read next in the local newspaper that one of the Sunday school teacher under the same pastor had been arrested for sexual molestation of the boys in his Sunday School class. The same Pastor now was too busy worried about his own reputation,  to be bad mouthing me now too.
 
LET ME TELL YOU FIRSTLY THAT STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP YOU CAN HAVE DAILY IS NOT AT ALL WITH YOUR LOCAL CHURCH, DENOMINATION BUT RATHER WITH GOD, JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, REPENTANCE….. AND HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW? 
Heavenly Father I pray that you will help all, all of the persons involved to look up to you, to trust in you alone firstly to supply all of their needs, to help them and not in any person wrongfully as well. Supply the poor people what they need through the persons  of your choice, not ours and through your means not ours..
(James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
PSALM 13: 5  But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.  6  I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
 
(Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
  
(1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV)    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6  Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. 14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
The also bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot.
In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..
“They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this TACF group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..
Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”
and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..” https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/  http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/#comment-29644
Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are wall mounted crucifix and their public prayers. Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe… 
 
and look I  am not aksing for any support, money, donations,  membership..  and Jesus himelf, the way, the truth and the life,  is the only person I do  want you to follow.

It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

ALSO see

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/ontario-judge-orders-website-to-reveal-identity/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/ http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/intro/ http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/i-can-say/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/am-i-therefore-become-your-enemy/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-collection-of-christian-literature/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

Do visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/slow-to-learn/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
So far nothing has caused me to change my views on the subject.

May 29, 2008

Can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

How can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

I do not even know what you even believe in, never mind if you also do even practice it.. For it is not how much of the Bible you or I  know that counts, but how much you  and I practice it.

 But the first Question I have to you was Todd called specially by God to be a PASTOR, SHEPHERD  TO HIS PEOPLE? or not? I specially do know that God had talked to me and he had asked me to be his pastor for a start! It was not my choice too.

Did you ask God about this?  and what was his reply? After all God still does undeniably speaks to his true people today still.. and you can hear God talking to you.

Who am I to take God’s place in correcting his servant unless God had specially asked me to do so? Did he ask you to do so? Did you talk to Todd face to face next? I have asked many pastors to repent face to face when God told me to do so.

I had attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..

But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..

and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

It was very interesting fact that the clearly bad pastors of TACF Toronto Airport Church fellowship had resorted to a commercial lawsuit over rather resorting to pray in dealing with one of their critics,

Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now  are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.

It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
It is also absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.

Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”  and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize AND PRACTICE this still too

Tim said ” From what I’ve seen and heard from Todd Bentley (I spent 4 days at the revival), he preaches, and teaches Jesus Christ, and him crucified. He preaches repentance and turning to God with all your heart. People get healed and set free from the demonic in his meetings. You say Todd has a past. You say Todd has non biblical teachings. Well, I have news for you, so do you. None of you, none of us have the perfect speech, preaching, teaching, without any error. Do you honestly believe that all of your own teachings are without ANY error. The cardinal doctrines are what we need to focus on. Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. Salvation through Christ alone, and sanctification by the Spirit of God.”

and I said in reply I know undeniably that the Pentecostal pastors had slandered, abused my own twin brother too… and even the Baptist , Brethren, Pentecostal pastors had lied about me, slandered me too often too.
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  Reponses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/our-god-speaks-too/

May 26, 2008

Distorters, Disrupters, Decievers

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 A house divided against itself cannot stand (Mark 3:25)  applies to  Churches, and our homes, and our marriages too.

(Prov 16:19 KJV)  Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

Bullies, abusers, liars, slanderers tend to be clearly immoral persons who try to enslave others uancceptably even if they profess to be Christian or what ever,,

(Mark 12:38 KJV)  And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces, 39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts: 40  Which devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation. 41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

(Mark 12:42 KJV)  And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
 
(Isa 57:15 KJV)  For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 
I want you to clearly teach the meaning of these above verses to all and these below as well.
 
(Prov 11:2 KJV)  When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.
 
(Prov 13:10 KJV)  Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
 
(2 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
“God to thee alone I cry for help, be my refuge, my strength, my deliverer for blessed are all those who do put their trust in you now before the children of men.”
 
(Psa 37:40 KJV)  And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
 
(Micah 7:2 KJV)  The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net. 3  That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.  4  The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity. 5  Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom. 6  For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house. 7  Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.
 
(Mat 10:35 KJV)  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
 
(Psa 14:3 KJV)  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. 
 
I was in one church where the pastor was a real showman, he was a great entertainer, and in a worldly sense I admired Him.  God next spoke to me and said that God knew what he was really  like, what he was capable of, and that this same pastor  had the ability to sin as well, thus I was not to worship him or any  mere man..
   
(Luke 14:11 KJV)  For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 
Some loud mouthed pastors taking all the credit for the revival in their church forgot it was very likely someone else had firstly prayed for it to occur..
 
(Isa 66:2 KJV)  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. 3   He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. 4  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. 5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. 6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompense to his enemies.
 
(2Pet.2:1,2,19): “There were false prophets among the [Old Testament] people, even as there shall be false teachers among you [the church], who privily shall bring in[to the church] damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them. . . . And many [of the church] shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of [by the church]. . . . While they [Christian ministers] promise them [Christian congregations] liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption.”
 
Always,  Always Follow After Jesus and not after any Man, elders or Pastors included. Sadly I still very often counsel sheep that have been beat up, abused by their pastors..(Jer 17:5 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.(Jer 17:6 KJV)  For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

(Isa 30:10 KJV)  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof? (Jer 14:14 KJV)  Then the LORD said unto me, The  prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. 15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

 

Now there are also at least six major things wrong with the North Americanized  Gospel being preached falsely today even worldwide,  and our own being personally next forewarned is properly forearmed.1 It is mostly man centered religion and not rather God centered, it still tends to exalts man,  self, pride..not rather solely Jesus Christ.

(2 Tim 3:1 KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3  Without natural affection,  truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4  Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.   

and not rather  (1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
  
2 It falsely, wrongfully teaches mostly materialistic prosperity, it has a wrong still secular materialistic emphasis,  approach.. instead of agreeing with Christ that Blessed are the poor in Spirit as well..(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.3 It denies full personal accountability, even denies the reality we will here reap on earth as well what we have sown or have not sown even.. (Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

4 It tends to deny the reality of the real personal persecutions of all true believers, and this it even fails  to prepare us to deal with our enemies, persecutions, hardships too.   (2 Tim 3:10 KJV)  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, long suffering, charity, patience, 11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

5 It even really fails to adequately prepare us to know God better and to walk with God himself, to follow after God instead of mere men.

(Phil 3:10 KJV)  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, 

and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;  (1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
 
6 It promotes sex. While Catholicism has falsely suppressed the emphasis on marital sex, not on true love, this  often Americanized Gospel falsely promotes sex too often too,  and thus also falsely promotes related divorce, mostly for sexual lusts for a start. (2 Tim 3:6 KJV)  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
 
Yes even today there is the still false persecution of the righteous persons by wicked, evil, not born again  persons,  but there is also our persecution by a backslidden Christian, the same one with the antichrist  spirit,  that knowingly too  tries to slander, kill Christ and his good followers, and this evil sprit it generally is still  in a  past believer in Christ, like Judas.
 
As the Bible even  indicates the God ordained penalty for the persecution God’s people which includes  death too, but first a  loss of  job, loss of family too. One of the best loud Biblical examples  of this is in  book of Esther. Do read this book firsthand  for this is a  great book on this subject too. 
 
In the New Testament Apostle Paul in the past himself amongst many others was such a persecutor of believers, a murderer as well and  God saved him too, but God made him pay the price for it too next.. 
 
In my own life time I have often witnessed that when a person tries to physically harm, persecute a true believer they do next either die  early for their time.. even  within a month,  6 months, two years.. depending on how unrepentant they are.
 
Too many Pastors, elders even  today also do try to build false churches modeled on uniqueness, isolated doctrines,  on  something that makes them supposedly better, different for others.. they practise a small isolated part of  the Bible and then even boast they are better than all of the others. Most  Churches wrongfully do not practise all of the Bible, for they really do not  know it to start if with as well, not even the pastors..  Many pastors wrongfully  do still  build a church even as a job  income, or to promote glory unto themselves..  and they really not they do not  build on on Christ.. they really do not read the Bible or pray for their flock daily.. they unacceptably  are not building truly the true  Church of Christ.
 
 
(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not  prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy  name done many wonderful works?  23   And then will I profess unto them,  I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
(1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3  And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4  And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5  That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.(Eph 1:1 KJV)  Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, ..not by the will of man too..”Some of the most desperate cries being uttered by God’s “sheep” today are those pleas for the Lord to send them a GOOD Pastor = a good SHEPHERD.

In every “pasture”, the sheep are saying, “Lord, send us a good shepherd”.

God’s still does sends miracles to you today, that is, when you believe! You still do have to do something to get God to act on your behalf OR ON THE BEHALF OF OTHERS..

Remember? “And he [Jesus Christ] did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief,” Matthew 13:58.

 The Bible itself is a miracle book, brought about by supernatural means in holy men of God as they were “moved by the Holy Ghost” (II Peter 1:21) …moved by God, who is SPIRIT… according to John 4:24a. (”Ghost” is “spirit,” it is the same Greek word pneuma for both “ghost” or “spirit.”)

Too many people have a problem also now just with the existence of Miracles, but with the reality that the Divinely inspired Bible was all brought about by “the power of the Holy Spirit”?! Plenty. So it is not surpassing man y people have problems, or a lack of faith for God to perform miracles their  behalf or on the behalf of others. It’s also amazing to me that people have a problem with that when in fact they will believe in things more difficult to believe in than God’s Word, like ……Life on mars or aliens.  Just unbelievable! The only “aliens” I know of, as recorded in God’s Word, are “devil spirits.”  Something really peculiar also is that so many people will believe in “angels,” but they do not believe in “the power of the God, Jesus, the holy spirit” …yet……. both truths, both of these realities, still come from the same Bible.  Isn’t that odd  that many only believe certain realities from the same Bible! And why is that?

Further, some people actually think angels are a greater phenomenon than even God’s gift to man, named …the gift of holy spirit, Acts 2:38, and Ephesians 2:8.  Especially, when God had recorded within His Word, the words: holy spirit, spirit, spiritually, holy ghost, etc. hundreds of times more (almost 800 times in God’s Word) as compared to the word …”angels,” or “messengers,” etc. (used under 300 times).

It is an intriguing matter when men magnify things that God does not magnify, and when God magnifies things that men do not magnify it. Sinful of course.

The Word of God now too often is even sensationalized in preaching, books, tapes for the people’s false and shallow belief? People tend to like to hear only certain topics.

and there is clearly  even an evilly devised, satanic-origin to the magnification of angels over God’s giving of “the gift of holy spirit,” Acts 2:38? Over the word of God too.

Remember? II Corinthians 11:14, “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

The greatest “gift” God has also ever given to man is “the gift of God,” explained in further detail within the quote, “the gift of holy spirit” …which Jesus Christ gave his life… for each one of us to personally obtain.

God has also emphasized, magnified His “gift” to man in Jesus Christ over the reality of angels. And  ”Know ye not that we shall judge angels,” I Corinthians 6:3.

“Internet “Search Engine” compilations, statistics, reveal that people look up the keyword “angels” with a ratio of at least two to one more times than people search or look up the words “spirit” or “holy spirit!”  Even more startling …is when many are looking up the keyword “angels” more than they are the real keywords of life …”God” or “Jesus” or “Christ” or “Jesus Christ!” ” Why? because many persons really are not interested in personally being spiritual rather they just want  their minds tickled with facts, information.”

Many so called Christian, church Internet sites do not even promote Jesus Christ and his finished works for us, but promote wrongfully their organization, man, are a false reason and wrong source for the solicitation of funds too.

“For our weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ.” II Cor 10:4-5

II Tim 1:7   ”For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”

1 John 3:8 “He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”

Hebrews 2:14 “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.”

Destroy is katargeo in Greek; meaning to render inoperative, abolish, or to make of no effect.

[Romans 16:20 “And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.”]

Bruise is suntribo in Greek; meaning to crush completely and to shatter.

Acts 10:38 “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil (whom the devil exercised power over); for God was with him.”

Healing is iaomai in Greek; meaning cure, heal, or make whole.

1 John 3:10-11 “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.”

and resisting the devil by the blood of Jesus and the name of Jesus, by prayer is an ongoing daily need too.

Like I have said one is not a Christian before one notice the vast difference between fundamental Christians, in particularly between the Pentecostals and the non Pentecostals.. the difference lies also in the aspects, emphasis  of the Holy Spirit, Spiritual Gifts, and the gifted Church members, offices too.,, such as even Apostles, Prophets.. and there are differences even on the issue of eternal security.. While both sides claim to believe the Bible is the word of God, they seem to explain it all very differently… the problem to me it seems is that clearly one group is doing it mostly in their own wisdom, not in God’s, they are not allowing the Holy Spirit to guide,  teach them, but rather the flesh, mere men and the devil.. but next each one says the other group is doing this.. the same professing Christian group that has a low emphasis on the Holy Spirit is the one in error.
 
Yes, the Sinful persons in any church they can still be used by the Holy Spirit because they’re the choice of the Holy Spirit as a vessel to be used.  (2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
 And it has also now bugged the daylights out of me that I knew that some persons in all churches and in all denominations were still sinning very bad, but God still used them as a vessel!  God uses people also in the church who are available vessels, who are vessels that are opened to be used and often those vessels are in sin. God uses also some sinful and even unbelieving pastors cause others had prayed for them to be used by God, their spouses included. God can also use anybody, anything as  well, a jack ass too,  and the usage of the  vessel by the Holy Spirit does not sanction the sin, the persons now still, and as a matter of fact often soon after, there’s going to be a visible judgment based on that person’s still unrepentant sins and there’s even going to be a lot of bewilderment. There’s going to be a lot of local, national concerns about why how one could have  be sinful and be even spiritual as well. I have seen this as well. Always still keep your eye on God and his word and not the vessels.
 
God’s will also  is for  all persons to know Him initially and continually and firstly  through genuine personal repentance. For  immaturity and unrepentant  sins will keep any believer in  the pigpen instead..  you cannot have one foot in the world, flesh, the devil, hell and the other one next in Heaven, with God.. it cannot be done. That is why so many so called Christian persons are still unspiritual and why they cannot understand the truth or know it. Why we have so many false pastors false teachers, false apostle, false prophets, false evangelists, the  false believers .
 
God does not forever overlook all of the injustice being done or all of the unrepentant personal sins, in fact often there is a time when these persons who have sowed them  do next reap the negative things they sowed, and they are even publicly exposed as being false.
 
SADLY TO ME THE STILL DEMONICALLY LED CHRISTIANS DO STILL BELIEVE THAT THE MIRACLES OF BIBLE TIMES ARE NO LONGER OCCURRING TODAY OR THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO US CLEARLY EVEN BECAUSE OF UNREPENTANT SIN IN THEIR LIFE, AND/OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT MATURED SPIRITUALLY, AND /OR BECAUSE THEY ARE CARNAL CHRISTIANS AND NOT SPIRITUAL ONES.
 
They may not  deny the Biblical account of the miracles of creation, the flood, the walls of Jericho story, the virgin birth of Christ or his resurrection. To them these Miracles have confirmed the sonship of Jesus. These all are written solely that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. . .” (John 20:31).
 
But they will next  wrongfully say that  to “look for modern-day miracles outside the Book demonstrates our lack of faith in the Bible and the Son of God it reveals.” This is just more of their mere Garbage.. real faith in God believes still in His miracles today as well. For God has not changed, changes not.. nor does, did  Jesus.. (Mal 3:6 KJV)  For I am the LORD, I change not;  (Heb 13:8 KJV)  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 
Mind you these same people do believe their own garbage and the fact they are spiritual by telling us such distortions still too. These rather carnal, immature, legalistic, Christian distortionists will sadly also say to you about the 9 MIRACULOUS GIFTS that they are ” Like scaffolding, a temporary platform for workmen on a new building, miraculous gifts were temporary to enable the early church time to mature and grow. Instruction had to be given in the absence of a written, confirmed, complete and perfect revelation. These gifts were to last “till we all attain unto the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto the full-grown man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. . .(Ephesians 4:13). “
 
Ironically it is also very clear to most of us that we all have not even achieved a unity of faith so these miraculous gift thus are still needed and exist still today too so we can come to a unity of the faith even still.
And the distortionists  they will tend to add that “These gifts came only through the laying on of the apostles’ hands.” “The apostles had to go to Samaria to lay hands on those Philip had converted and bestow gifts on them, because Philip could not do it (Acts 8:16). Paul laid his hands on twelve men at Ephesus and they spoke in tongues and prophesied (Acts 19:6). The seven deacons, including Philip, received the laying on of hands of the apostles (Acts 6:6). Paul laid his hands on Timothy to enable him to receive a special gift (2 Timothy 1:6). Finally, Paul longed to go to Rome, “that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established” (Romans 1:11). “
 
” Only the apostles (  only the Holy Spirit rather still could do this) could give the nine miraculous gifts (1 Cor. 12:4-11). When the apostles died, their hands died with them and the ability to bestow gifts by “the laying on of hands” died also. “  And as to what Apostles are they talking about? Note they will also have to deny that more than 12 Apostles had existed at the time of Christ or that Apostles do exists today as well. Not all of the Christian persons now even spoke in tongues solely by the laying on of the apostle’s hands.
These same disrupters and liars forget that there are more ten 12 apostles mentioned in the   New Testament, at least 18, and that Apostles do even exist today as well. 
 
God’s word is clear on the subject of what deceivement will do to us, for it will cause us to fall away even from Him who has created us and made all things.
 
(Rom 1:1 KJV)  Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,  (Rom 11:13 KJV)  For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: (1 Cor 1:1 KJV)  Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother…  The very Same apostle Paul said (1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. (1 Cor 14:40 KJV)  Let all things be done decently and in order.
 
(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
 
(1 Cor 14:40 KJV)  Let all things be done decently and in order.
 
(Eph 6:18 KJV)  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; (Jude 1:20 KJV)  But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
 
(1 Cor 12:4 KJV)  Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
 
(1 Cor 12:6 KJV)  And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
 
“In Eph. 2:20, apostles and prophets are closely linked. They are both important components of the one foundation.  Ephesians would actually indicate that we are dealing with two groups of specifically gifted people. In Eph. 4:11 we are told that Christ “gave some to be apostles, some prophets…” Here both nouns have their own definite article. They are clearly two separate groups.Don’t you also find it really strange that some people today in the church expect all of today’s Prophets to be totally perfect, but yet not all of the church Pastors? Why do they have this dual standard? Are they looking for a false excuse to discredit immediately all AND ANY OF the Prophets? It sure really seems so.The mostly still sinful and rebellious Pastors and/or teachers  still really do not like to submit to any Apostles, Prophet’s even today so that is why they tend  not to like and  wrongfully to agree with this valid exposition now too. I have even heard, witnessed pastors lie. Does that now also mean every single word a prophet said, or every personal act was to be right, inspired? Don’t you find it really strange that some people today in the church expect all of today’s Prophets to be totally perfect, but yet not all of the church Pastors? Why do they have this dual standard? Are they looking for a false excuse to discredit immediately all AND ANY OF the Prophets? It sure really seems so.  
 
I had attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..
But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..
 
and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..
 
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. (Mat 21:42-44)
 
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send, receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. (John 13:20)   Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me ((through their word;))
 
(John 17:17-18, 20) (John 17:22 KJV)  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
 
(James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
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