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August 25, 2015

Things Children of God Can and cannot Do:

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PRAY, ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REVEAL THE BIBLE TRUTHS;

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/pray-ask-the-holy-spirit-to-reveal-the-bible-truths/

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ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL SECURITY  IS FALSE and  also STILL false is the Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by 1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/why-is-dispensationalist-theology-false/

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The rapture, often called “the blessed hope,” is sadly more hoax than hope, even though the man who started it had no intention of deceiving anyone. You need to know what the Bible actually says! The word “rapture” is not found anywhere in the Bible. So where do they get the word from? It was coined from the words “caught up” found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. And we will deal with those verses later on. So what does Christ Jesus our Teacher say about this? Matthew 13:24-30 …’Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; [NO] lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.’

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Matthew 13:38-40 …’The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.’ Notice also what Jesus says in Matthew 28:20 …”lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” … Now why would Jesus reassure us that He would be with us until the END OF THE WORLD, if we were to be raptured away BEFORE the end of the world? Doesn’t make sense does it? Friend, the rapture teaching is a false one invented by Satan to cause God’s people to be unprepared for the time of trouble ahead, that we WILL go through.

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Prior to 1830, no church taught it in their creed, catechism or statement of faith. Credit for the rapture origin generally goes to John Nelson Darby, a 19th-century theologian. “Darby’s pre-tribulational view of the rapture was then picked up by a man named C.I. Scofield, who taught the view in the footnotes of his Scofield Reference Bible, which was widely distributed in England and America. Many Protestants who read the Scofield Reference Bible uncritically accepted what its footnotes said and adopted the [rapture doctrine], even though no Christian had heard of it in the previous 1800 years of Church history” Some rapturists today cite Acts 8:39 saying it uses the same Greek word that is translated “caught up” in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 They say that the fact the Spirit of God “caught [Philip] away” shows that 1 Thessalonians 4:17 means that the saints are caught away to heaven. Yet the Spirit did not transport Philip to heaven, but rather from one place on the earth to another.

http://www.bible.ca/pre-contrast-truth.htm

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Yes according to the absurd fundamentalist Christians, a rapture is coming. “Believers”—those who have “accepted Jesus”—are scheduled to be whisked away without notice—no matter where they are or what they are doing. All of the “unbelievers” will be left behind to suffer under the antichrist, and through the supposed seven-year Tribulation—when war, disease, famine and religious deception explode worldwide. “This doctrine   “ rapture “  is not really found in the book of Revelation. If you read the book of Revelation, you won’t find any mention of the rapture there,”    The   rapture has not  always been  Church teaching, the idea was unknown before the 16th century.  Plymouth Brethren Rev John Darby false  way of interpreting the Bible taught that Christ would first secretly collect His followers and later return to defeat the antichrist. This  false teaching continued through one of Darby’s disciple, Cyrus Scofield, who assembled the Scofield Reference Bible.  But there are many disagreeing theologians here too, remember most rapture theorists do not agree— many found different ways of interpreting the Bible to present the rapture. Which should one listen to? The answer? None—because the belief is not found in the Bible. Inventing theologies such as eternal security, futurism or dispensationalism will not unlock God’s Word! By letting the Holy Spirit interpret the  Bible  itself—the greatest rule of Bible study—one can understand all the real events surrounding the Great Tribulation and next Christ’s Second Coming.

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Regardless of when we’re resurrected, the hope of the eschaton is that we will be resurrected, just like Christ. The problem is, many evangelicals spend more time talking about rapture than resurrection.  Resurrection is the focal point of the New Testament. Rapture  is not.

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Matthew 24:36 and 24:40-42: “But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only…Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for you know not what hour your Lord does come.”  Beginning in verse 40, Jesus explains the condition of society in the last days. People will be “in the field” and “at the mill,” carrying on daily activities. They will also be “eating and drinking” and “marrying and giving in marriage.” In other words, life will seem normal just before destructionjust before the snare. Verse 42 confirms that this will come unexpectedly. Famine, pestilence and military invasion will together claim two-thirds of the population of the modern nations of Israel. Read Ezekiel 5:12. Captivity—enslavement!—will take the remaining third. Before this, God’s people will certainly be “taken” to safety

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The Great Tribulation will take the whole world by surprise. Jesus warned, “For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth” (Luke 21:35). Solomon added, “For man also knows not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time [in this case, the end-time], when it falls suddenly upon them” (Ecc. 9:12). The coming Great Tribulation is real—as is God’s promise to protect His people. But, unlike the rapture theory, the Bible reveals there is a designated place on Earth—not heaven—where His Church will be safe during the three-and-a-half—not seven—years of Tribulation. Matthew 24 also reveals that the surrounding of Jerusalem by foreign forces is the event that signals when God’s people should flee to safety! Christ wants His Church prayerfully involved in their escape from the Great Tribulation. —not self-assured, lazing back, expecting a heavenly vacuum cleaner to do it all for them!

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I Corinthians 15:50-52: “…Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

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There is no proof—or even hint—of a rapture here! Notice the phrase “last trump.” This refers to the seventh trumpet, which announces Christ’s Return to the whole world. This last trumpet is also referred to in Revelation 11:15 and I Thessalonians 4:15-16. It sends a piercing—immense—and reverberating—sound that all inhabitants of Earth will hear.

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Notice this in Matthew: “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man [nothing secret here] coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet [this has to be the last], and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other” (24:30-31). This references the saints wherever they are, either buried or alive on Earth. This becomes more clear.

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Nothing “secret” is being described! This trumpet blast announces Christ’s Return, and it is then when He gathers His people. At this point, His true followers will be changed into perfect, immortal beings. This is the time of the Resurrection, when the “dead in Christ” are raised to spirit-born immortal life.

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The final passage is I Thessalonians 4:15-17: “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God [nothing secret here]: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air [not heaven]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Where? The prophet Zechariah answers: “And [Christ’s] feet shall stand in that day [not seven years later] upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east…and the Lord my God shall come [recall John 14], and all the saints with [Him]” (Zech. 14:4-5).

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Revelation 1:7 declares, “Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him [again, nothing secret here]…and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him.” Also, how could anyone miss such a verse? It practically screams off the page! Jesus further confirmed in Acts 1 that He will return in the clouds

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Jesus Christ built His Church—the true Church—the only one He built—2,000 years ago. This Church believes and teaches the truths of the Bible—all of them—not human ideas—any of them  Sadly, most people stull just do not read their Bibles, choosing to trust deceived,lying  ministers instead.

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In 1974 Corrie Ten Boom wrote to warn Christians about the false teaching of the pre-tribulation rapture. This teaching is very popular in America, even though there is no scriptural basis for it. Many believers have bought into it because they have heard it taught by their pastor or by other Christian leaders, but we must study the scriptures for ourselves. There are some among us teaching there will be no tribulation, that the Christians will be able to escape all this. These are the false teachers that Jesus was warning us to expect in the latter days. Most of them have little knowledge of what is already going on across the world. I have been in countries where the saints are already suffering terrible persecution.In China, the Christians were told, “Don’t worry, before the tribulation comes you will be translated – raptured.” Then came a terrible persecution. Millions of Christians were tortured to death. In America, the bad churches preach the Rapture “Let the congregation escape tribulation”, but in China and Africa , Muslim Countries the tribulation has already arrived. God has promised to deliver his people from the wrath to come (Revelation 3:10, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:9), but has not promised to deliver us from persecution, which comes from the wrath of men operating under the influence of Satan. In fact, just the opposite is true. He promised we would be persecuted. That might not be what we want to hear, but it is what we need to hear because it is the truth.

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Jesus was persecuted for doing the will of God. It cost him his life. He warned his followers they would also be hated and persecuted.

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“If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world—therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘Servants are not greater than their master. ’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also. But they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. (John 15:18-20)

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Not only have Christians been persecuted throughout history, but the Bible reveals even greater persecution is coming during the end-times. The antichrist will be given power over the saints for three and a half years (Daniel 7:25). He will shatter the power of the saints (Daniel 12:6-7). He will make war against the saints and will overcome them (Revelation 13:7 and Daniel 7:21-25). The saints will be beheaded (Revelation 20:4-6) and destroyed (Daniel 8:24).

http://z3news.com/w/proof-the-rapture-happens-on-the-day-of-the-lord/

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Scriptures that refute “Eternal Security”

1 Parable of sower

  • Mark 4:16 (Luke 8:13) “And in a similar way these are the ones on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy; (they believe for a while) and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only temporary; then, when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.

2 Fallen from grace passage:

  • Galatians 5:4 “You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”

3 Pruning passages:

  • John 15:5-6 “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch, and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”
  • Romans 11:19-23 “You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you. Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again.”

4 Hebrews Passages:

  • Hebrews 6:4-6 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame.
  • Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.”
  • Hebrews 10:38-39 “But My righteous one shall live by faith; And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.”

5 Doctrinal Apostasy passages:

  • Acts 20:17,28-30 “And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called to him the elders of the church.” … “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.”
  • 1 Timothy 1:18-21 “fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these are HYMENAEUS and Alexander”
  • 2 Timothy 2:16-18 But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are HYMENAEUS and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some.
  • 1 Timothy 4:1 “But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons”
  • 1 Timothy 6:20-21 “O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called “knowledge”-which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.”
  • 2 Peter 2:1 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.”
  • 2 Peter 3:17 “You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest, being carried away by the error of unprincipled men, you fall from your own steadfastness”
  • 2 John 8-9 “Watch yourselves, that you might not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.”

6 Moral Apostasy passages:

  • 1 Timothy 6:9-10 “But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.”
  • 2 Peter 2:20-22 “For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.””
  • James 5:19-20 “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins.”

7 Revelation passages:

  • Revelation 2:4-5 “‘But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. ‘Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place-unless you repent.”
  • Revelation 3:5 “‘He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels.
  • Revelation 3:16-17 ‘So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. ‘Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked”

8 Old Testament passages

  • Ezekiel 18:24-26 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? “When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die.”

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The fact the Bible exhorts to faithfulness proves one can be lost

1.be steadfast immovable: 1 Cor 15:58

2.If these qualities are yours…2 Pe 1:5-11

3.we will reap if we do not grow weary: Gal 6:9

4.be faithful unto death and I will give crown of life: Rev 2:10

5.practice these things and God will be with you: Phil 4:9

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Eternal salvation is only given to the obedient –

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Once made perfect, he [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation for all who OBEY him (Heb. 5:9). All , people need to get saved and stay saved, which often doesn’t happen! The Christian life is a fight against sin (Heb. 12:4). Sin not only defiles, it can bring a righteous person to his spiritual death. To be worthy of Jesus, you must place him first in your life (even before your family), take up your cross and follow Jesus (Mt. 10:37,38). Only the continual followers of Jesus possess eternal life. Multitudes in our day, who profess to be Christians, only have the faith of demons. They profess Jesus as the Son of God, but live in sin. They do NOT have eternal salvation.

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It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.

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But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

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There is a very dangerous person that we should be aware of, and even not associate with, Like the Apostle Judas, and they tend to do they dirty work in the background, not transparently to all, do have a hidden bad agenda .The Last Supper specifically portrays the reaction given by each apostle when … Judas is wearing green and blue and is in shadow, looking rather withdrawn . An Apostate. Apostasy in Christianity refers to the rejection of Christianity by someone who formerly was a Christian.;The term apostasy comes from the Greek word apostasia (“ἀποστασία”) meaning defection, departure, revolt or rebellion. It has been described as “a willful falling away from, or rebellion against Jesus Christ, Christianity. Apostasy is the rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ by one who has been a Christian… describing those who have voluntarily and consciously abandoned next their original faith in the God of the covenant, who manifests himself most completely in Jesus Christ. “Apostasy is the antonym of conversion; it is deconversion.”

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

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And it seems 50 percent of once loudly professing Christians will next become Apostates, sell Jesus cause they falsely did not get what they wanted, even wealth, power, fame, recognition, more sex…

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html

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Things Children of God Can Do:

  1. Fall from grace – Gal. 5:1-4,13
  1. Be led away with error – 2 Pet. 3:17
  1. Err from the truth – James 5:19-20
  1. Weak brother may perish – 1 Cor. 8:11
  1. Fall into condemnation – James 5:12
  1. Be moved away from the hope – Col. 1:21-23
  1. Deny the Lord who bought them – 2 Pet. 2:1
  1. Depart from the living God – Heb. 3:12
  1. Can be a castaway – 1 Cor. 9:27
  1. Can become accursed children – 2 Pet. 2:14

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THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT IS FOR THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH

Revelation 1:

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

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Mere men and not the Holy Spirit now are leading you away from the real Bible truths  into lies, distortions, falsehoods even the Dispensationalists.  Dispensationalist eschatology is a new theology  not even  a part of Christianity even for 1800 years, was originally taught by a Plymouth Brethren evangelist named John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800’s and was popularized by the Scofield Study Bible, published initially in 1909.
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Dispensationalism is a man made system of arbitrarily dividing up God’s dealings with man into certain time periods and it gained more popularity toward the end of the 20th century through popular money making books such as “The Late Great Planet Earth” and many others..
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The first Dispensation supposedly of the church age was a Dispensation of miracles. This first dispensation is when God gave supernatural attestation to the writing of the Scriptures. My Jesus  still heals, delivers, perform Miracles today as Hebrews 13:8 says ” Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”  It is no wonder these lost supposedly  Christians persons do  oppose the gifts, working, and the person of the Holy Spirit even now as he does not go along with their lies..
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This dispensation ended with the closing of the canon of Scripture (with the book of Revelation) and the dying off of the initial apostles a fact that is a great untruth.. Jesus the Word still lives even till we see him face to face..  1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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The remainder of the church age consists of a downward spiral toward apostasy, also known as the great falling away. This down-hill spiral is reflected in seven phases of the church age, reflected by the letters to the seven types of churches written in Revelation 2-3, hypothesizing falsely that the final condition of the church will solely be characterized by the church in Laodicea which was described as “wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—“ Rev 3:17
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At the end of the church age, when the church is supposedly at it’s weakest point, the false church in fact only, an anti-christ ruler is going to surface who will try and turn being a Christian into a living hell. But supposedly  just before that, there will be a secret partial return of Christ where Christians disappear in an event dubbed “the Rapture”, although there realy isn’t anything in the Bible about a partial second coming. Many false doctrines are built on minor Bible references still here too.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/the-fall-of-the-anti-Christ/

January 29, 2015

TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP

Some people we know seem to have too many bad personal days so they falsely try to take it on those around them..  Those unacceptable persons, the oppressors, bullies, abusers, control freaks, liars, slanderers, jungle fighters.. who are clearly still even lost.. they need to change themselves solely and not work on changing  the others.
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 SADLY MANY PERSONS GO TO EXTREMES , DEVELOP  FALSE VALUES, STILL LIVE IN UNREPENTANT SINFUL ACTS.. SO GOD DOES NOT HEAR THEIR PRAYERS  
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(Micah 2:8 KJV) Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/

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(Rom 12:18 KJV) If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

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(Heb 12:14 KJV) Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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(2 Cor 13:11 KJV) Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

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(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

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(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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THE BIBLE ALSO GIVES US PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF PERSONS WHO WERE TOO QUICK TO SPEAK AGAINST OTHERS.. Human beings have this tendency to get the wrong values or to  go to false inbalance, extremes as well in real life..

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as helpers, pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well.  (Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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It is an accurate assessment that 80 percent of all persons suffer from having a very poor self worth, a poor self esteem of themselves and they feel guilty, depressed over it, not knowing what to do cause their humanistic endeavors at self improvement tend to fail them..
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Likely 20 percent of all persons are a TROUBLE MAKER, they are an aggressive bully while the rest, 80 percent are a TIMID SHEEP, over fearful, overly submissive. We often do meet the loud mouthed trouble makers in many places, such as on the net, on the street, in churches now too but we also do encounter those overly timid, overly fearful, cowardly persons sadly now.
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Most people fail to realize that they do even still now need to have a balance of their life of being “assertive”, as well as being “submissive”, and being unbalanced in one or the other is not a positive aspect still as well. And what about you now too? what are you realy like.. overly asssertivae or overly submissive..
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It is very likley that 20 percent of persons tend to have an exaggerated  opinion of themselves, an unreal  one, and they think they can readily teach others meaning acting like basic dictators, lords. oppressors over others, they are actually bullying others? In the process both of these inbalanced groups tend to try to teach others when clearly they themselves still do  have a lot to learn.. and the bullies need to take the beam out of their own eyes.. including learning humility.. for God realy still hates the proud hearted persons..
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
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It has been amazing to me that, as I look back into my own life, half of the oppressions I have witnessed in my life, and any oppression all of it tends to be an unacceptable human rights abuse now too, all oppressions are still unacceptable , these oppressions now came from the least expected places, from the Bullies within the church , even from bad pastors, bad elders, bad deacons, and also within my related control freaked or despotic family members, all now proving to me that many of these professing Christians persons were still not real Christians in fact. The other half of the oppressions, and all of it too was unacceptable, came from fellow employees, bad contacts, acquaintances, neighbour, civil and public servants, cops, RCMP.
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Being nice. kind, friendly to a really bad person is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser..
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In fact it is next impossible for anyone to try to to change others.  Dealing effectively with the bad Person, Stressful person- Alcoholics, Bullies, Abusers, Control freaks 
http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/dealing-effectively/
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Do also see
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
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Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.

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Num 16:1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men: 2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown: 3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD? Num 16:31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: 32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. 33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. 34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.

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(Prov 14:29 KJV) He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.

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(Prov 15:18 KJV) A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

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(Prov 16:32 KJV) He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

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(2 Pet 2:10 KJV) But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

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(Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

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(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

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(Psa 145:8 KJV) The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. (Nahum 1:3 KJV) The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

..TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP or are you really Holy Spirit filled , led..

December 28, 2013

JW are not the sheep belonging to Jesus,

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over

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It is undeniable that JW is anew religion.. unlike Christianity for the sect known as Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs) began with Charles Taze Russell in the 1870’s. Russell was raised a Presbyterian, then joined the Congregational church, and was finally influenced by Adventist teachings. By his own admission, he had a hard time accepting the existence of hell. He sought out the Bible, and as his “studies” continued, he systematically began to reject the major doctrines of historic Christianity. He ultimately established his own belief system, and in 1879 he started publishing a magazine to promote his beliefs. This magazine was the precursor to today’s Watchtower (WT) magazine, by which Jehovah’s Witnesses are typically known. The New World Translation (NWT), the JWs’ own Bible version, was created between 1950-61 in several parts, beginning with New Testament (NT). The translation was made by an “anonymous” committee, which transliterated and altered passages that were problematic for earlier JWs. Nathan Knorr, Fred Franz, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, and Milton Henschel were later identified as the men that created the text, which is used by no other sect. Franz studied non-biblical Greek for two years, and taught himself Hebrew. The rest had no formal training in any biblical language. The text of the NWT is more of a transliteration to fit theological presumptions than it is a true translation. This can be seen in key verses that the WTS changed in order to fit its doctrines.

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The doctrine that most clearly sets the WTS apart from Christianity is its denial of the divinity of Christ. JWs maintain that Jesus is actually a creature—a highly exalted one at that—but not God himself. Scripturally, the evidence is not in their favor.

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John 1:1 states unequivocally, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” This verse gave the JWs tremendous difficulty, and so in their own NWT they render the end of this verse as, “And the word was a god.” One great difficulty with this translation is how it contradicts passages such as Deuteronomy 32:39, which says, “I alone, am God and there are no gods together with me.” Further contradictions can be seen in Exodus 20:3, “Have no other gods besides me,” and Isaiah 43:10, “Before me no god was formed nor shall there be any after me.” When a particular translation so clearly opposes other verses in Scripture, one can know immediately that it is inaccurate.
In John 20:28 Thomas says to Jesus, “My Lord and my God.” In the original Greek it literally reads, “The Lord of me and the God of me.” It would be nothing short of blasphemy for Jesus not to rebuke Thomas if he was wrong. Jesus does nothing of the sort, but instead accepts Thomas’ profession of his identity as God.

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Jesus Christ is God, a part of the Trinity, is the same Jesus Christ to whom every knee should bow to him and every tongue confess that he is Lord ( Php 2:9-11 ; cf. Isa 45:20-23 ). Jesus the Christ and not the Jews is the central focus both in old and New testament , Jesus of Nazareth, who in solemn testimony to the Jews declared Himself the I Am or Jehovah, who was God before Abraham lived on earth, was the same Being who is repeatedly proclaimed as the God who made covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; the God who led Israel from the bondage of Egypt to the freedom of the promised land, the one and only God known by direct and personal revelation to the Hebrew prophets in general.; and The divinity of Jesus Christ is indicated by the specific names and titles authoritatively applied to Him; Now there are many names of Jesus Christ and titles of Jesus Christ recorded in the scriptures.

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The Bible indicates that God alone created the universe (Is. 44:24), and “he that constructed all things is God” (Heb. 3:4). However, Jesus created the heavens and the earth (Heb. 1:10). This passage by itself proves that Jesus is God, since an Old Testament reference to God (Ps. 102:26-28) is now given to him.

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In John 8:58, Jesus takes the name of God, “I AM” (Ex. 3:15-18), and applies it to himself. Only God may use this title without b.aspheming (Ex. 20:7, Deut. 5:11), and the punishment for someone other than God to use the sacred “I AM” is stoning (Lev. 24:16). Thus in verse 59, Jesus’ audience picked up stones to kill him, because they correctly understood his use of “I AM” as his claim to being God and hence thought he was guilty of blasphemy. This verse also proved to be difficult for the JWs to combat, and so they changed “I AM” to “I have been.” The Greek here isego eimi, which any first-semester Greek student can tell you means “I am.” It should also be noted that it would be rather strange for people to stone Jesus for saying that he “had been.”

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(Eph 4:14 KJV) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

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The following are just some of the names and tiles of Jesus Christ found in the holy scriptures, New Testament in particular :

 
JESUS – The Hebrew yeshua’ or yehoshua’, meaning “Jehovah saves,” is transliterated into English as the name Joshua. In Greek, it became Iesous, thence Iesus in Latin and Jesus in English. Since Jesus was actually Jehovah performing saving work, his name yeshua’, “Jehovah saves,” coincides precisely.

 


MESSIAH – This title comes from the Hebrew meshiach, “anointed one.” Among the Israelites, prophets, priests and kings were anointed, designating them as rightful successors. Commonly, “messiah” referred to a figure awaited by Israel to be her king. Applied to Jesus, the title retains its full sense of “anointed” prophet, priest, and king.

 


SON OF DAVID – Jews expected the Messiah to belong to David’s lineage. Prophets had foretold that a son (descendant) of David would restore Israel’s kingdom to its former zenith (see Isa. 11:1-9; Jer. 23:5-6). According to Matthew 1:1-16, Jesus was descended from David. To the Jews the “Son of David” refers particularly to Messiah’s political aspect as Davidic king.

 


CHRIST – the anointed one- Greek for Messiah (anointed one) is Christos, Christ in English. Thus, “Jesus Christ” joins a name and a title, and means Jesus the Messiah. Christ, Messiah, Anointed One. The title “Christ” or “Anointed One” Gk. Christos “Cristov” occurs about 350 times in the New Testament.. The word christos means a person HOLY SPIRIT anointed . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit, one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too. Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27; The word christos means a person so anointed and the word chrisma refers to that by which a person is anointed. John uses chrisma in these two verses, not speaking of the object being anointed but of the instrument of anointing. Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,” just as Herodianos would mean “one who belongs to Herod.” As the ultimate Prophet, King and Priest, Jesus Christ was anointed when he began his earthly ministry. This anointing was predicted by Isaiah in Isaiah 61:1 when he said that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon the Messiah. In God’s time, when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, we are told the Holy Spirit came upon him when he came up out of the water. In other words, he was anointed by the Holy Spirit, and that without measure. When Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1,2 in the synagogue of Nazareth, saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,” he was announcing to the people that he was the Messiah prophesied by Isaiah long ago and that the anointing of the Holy Spirit was now resting upon him. Not only is Jesus Christ anointed, but the Bible tells us that every believer in Jesus Christ is also anointed. We are kings, priests, and prophets under the Priest, Prophet and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. We find references to this in many places. John the Baptist said there was another person coming after him, mightier than himself, who would baptize people in the Holy Spirit and fire. In Acts 1:5 the Lord Jesus Christ himself speaks of this, saying, “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” This was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, as we read in Acts 2:4: “All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” The Greek word for anointing is chrisma, from which we have the word chrism. Chrisma appears several times in 1 John 2:20 and 27. It comes from the root word, chriô, which means to rub something or someone lightly with a substance like oil or lotion. Thus, when John writes in 1 John 2:20, “But you have a chrisma, an anointing,” he was referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit upon every believer.;

 


The Chosen One.- Jesus is referred to as God’s chosen in Luke’s account of the transfiguration ( 9:35 )and by Matthew ( 12:18 ) as he applies Isaiah 42:1 to Jesus. In 1 Peter he is designated as the one “chosen before the creation of the world … revealed in these last times” ( 1:20 ) and as the”living stone—rejected by men but chosen by God” ( 2:4 ). Like his fellow brothers, the Jews he was a chosen one, but now not only a chosen one, but The Chosen One.. He embodies all that Old Testament chosen ones were to have been. .But Jesus refers to his apostles as those whom he has chosen ( John 6:70 ; 13:18 ; 15:19 ), and church is also called God’s “chosen” ( Eph 1:11 ; Col 3:12 ; James 2:5 ; 1 Peter 1:2 ; 2:9 ), by virtue of now also being Christ’s body. The Church, Christian Believers “in Christ” are now rather “chosen” ones and not the Jews. The church is the object of Christ’s love and redemption, called to have fellowship with him and to continue on his anointed work.

 


Jesus is Lord – and he shares with the Father qualities like deity ( Rom 9:5 ),preexistence ( John8:58 ), holiness ( Heb4:15 ), and compassion ( 1 John 4:9 ), to name just a few. He is co-creator ( Col 1:16 ) and co-regent, presiding in power at the Father’s right hand ( Acts 2:33 ; Eph 1:20 ; Heb 1:3 ), where he intercedes for God’s people ( Rom 8:34 ) and from whence, as the Creed states, he will return to judge the living and dead ( 2 Thess 1:7-8 ).Just as it is impossible to overstate the power, grandeur, and goodness and the the glory ascribed in Scripture to the the Son. Therefore Peter tellingly restates “sanctify Christ as Lord” ( 1 Peter 3:15 ; NASB). THE LORD – Since Jews uttered ‘adonai (Lord) instead of the divine name, the Greek Bible (c. 200 B.C.) usually translated yhwh as ho kurios, “the Lord.” Thus, “the Lord,” whether ‘adonai or kurios, equaled “Jehovah.” Not surprisingly, “the Lord” is Jesus’ most common title in the New Testament.

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Lord Jesus Christ is the sole and all-sufficient Savior of mankind and much more. No other savior is needed besides Him or with Him. That and much more is reflected in the various Jesus’ tiles, names and offices and including but not limited too to his list as well.

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Advocate (1 John 2:1) Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18) Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13) jesus titles Amen (Rev. 3:14) Apostle of our Profession (Heb. 3:1) Atoning Sacrifice for our Sins (1 John 2:2) Author of Life (Acts 3:15) Author and Perfecter of our Faith (Heb. 12:2) Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10) Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13) Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15) Bread of God (John 6:33) Bread that comes down from heaven (John 6:50) Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48) Bridegroom (Mt. 9:15) Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7) Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20) Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4) Christ (1 John 2:22) Creator (John 1:3) Deliverer (Rom. 11:26) Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20) Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11) Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5) Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14) First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13) Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5) Firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) Gate (John 10:9) God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.) Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14) Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20) Great High Priest (Heb. 4:14) Head of the Church (Eph. 1:22; 4:15; 5:23) Heir of all things (Heb. 1:2) High Priest (Heb. 2:17) Holy and True (Rev. 3:7) Holy One (Acts 3:14) Hope (1 Tim. 1:1) Hope of Glory (Col. 1:27) Horn of Salvation (Luke 1:69) I Am (John 8:58) Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4) Immanuel (Mt. 1:23) Judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42) King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17) King of Israel (John 1:49) King of the Jews (Mt. 27:11) King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16) King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3) Lamb (Rev. 13:8) Lamb of God (John 1:29) Lamb Without Blemish (1 Pet. 1:19) Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45) Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4) Light of the World (John 8:12) Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5) Living One (Rev. 1:18) Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4) Lord (2 Pet. 2:20) Lord of All (Acts 10:36) Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8) Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16) Man from Heaven (1 Cor. 15:48) Master (Lk. 5:5; 8:24; 9:33) Mediator of the New Covenant (Heb. 9:15) Mighty God (Isa. 9:6) Morning Star (Rev. 22:16) Offspring of David (Rev. 22:16) Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9) Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13) Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Husband (2 Cor. 11:2) Our Peace (Eph 2:14) Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3) Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Sacrificed Passover Lamb (1 Cor. 5:7) Power of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Precious Cornerstone (1 Pet. 2:6) Prophet (Acts 3:22) Rabbi (Mt. 26:25) Resurrection and Life (John 11:25) Righteous Branch (Jer. 23:5) Righteous One (Acts 7:52; 1 John 2:1) Rock (1 Cor. 10:4) Root of David (Rev. 5:5; 22:16) Ruler of God’s Creation (Rev. 3:14) Ruler of the Kings of the Earth (Rev. 1:5) Savior (Eph. 5:23; Titus 1:4; 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:20) Son of David (Lk. 18:39) Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14) Son of Man (Mt. 8:20) Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32) Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9) The One Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5) The Stone the builders rejected (Acts 4:11) The Teacher (John 11:28, NIV) True Bread (John 6:32) True Light (John 1:9) True Vine (John 15:1) Truth (John 1:14; 14:6) Way (John 14:6) Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Word (John 1:1) Word of God (Rev. 19:13);

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GOD – Jesus was not the son of any mortal man. His biological father was God, the Father. As Son of God, Jesus represents the Father and acts as his agent in all things.The phrase”Son of God” (huios theou) is a title used of Jesus to indicate that he is divine in nature, just as the title “Son of Man, The title “Son of God” is used twenty-six times in the Gospels referring to Jesus. He is called Son of God by Satan ( Matthew 4:3 Matthew 4:6 ; Luke 4:3 Luke 4:9 ), by demons ( Matt 8:29 ; Mark 3:11 ; Luke 4:41 ), by John the Baptist ( John1:34 ), by his followers ( Matt 14:23 ; John 1:49 ; 11:27 ; 20:31 ), by angels( Luke 1:35 ), and by a Roman centurion ( Matt 27:54 ; Mark 15:39 ). Jesus on occasion referred to himself with this title ( John 3:18 ; 5:25 ; 10:36 ; 11:4 ) and on other occasions acknowledged its validity ( Luke 22:70 ). After his conversion and call to apostleship, Paul immediately began to declare in the synagogues that Jesus was indeed the Son of God ( Acts 9:22 ). In his letters Paul used the phrase in reference to Jesus, saying he was “designated Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead” ( Rom 1:4 ; cf. 2 Col 1:19 ; Gal 2:20 ). The only other letter in the Pauline corpus to use this title is Ephesians (4:13). It is used in Hebrews ( 4:14 ; 6:6 ; 10:29 ), in the letters of John ( 1 John 3:8 ; 4:15 ; 1 John 5:5 1 John 5:10-13 1 John 5:20 ), and once in the Book of Revelation ( 2:18 ).Jesus Christ is God John 1:1 clearly equates “the word” with God; in 1:14 it becomes clear that “the word” is Jesus. Arguments by Jehovah’s Witnesses and others proposing different renderings of John 1:1 are untenable.

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SON OF MAN – From his mother Jesus inherited mortality. as a “a son of Adam,” that is, as any mortal man (Dan. 8:17). In the Synoptics references to the Son of Man may be loosely grouped into three categories: those which speak of him as: (1) present with authority and power ( Mark 2:10 Mark 2:27 );(2) suffering rejection and death by crucifixion at the hands of humans as a ransom fo many ( Mark 8:31 ; Mark 9:12 Mark 9:31 ; 10:45 ; 14:41 ); and (3)returning at some future time in glory to judge, and bring the consummation of all things( Mark 8:38 ; 13:26 ; 14:62 ). Son of Man references in John fall roughly into the same categories but with some special emphases.John 3:13 and 6:27, 62 allude to the eternal existence of the Son of Man; 1:51 and 8:28 imply an invisible continuing relation with God not found in the Synoptics; 12:23 and 13:31 speak of his glorification during his earthly life; and 3:13-16 and 6:53 make plain that the Son of Man’s work brings eternal life. Elsewhere in the New Testament the phrase “Son of Man” occurs in Hebrews 2:6,a quotation from Psalm 8:4 which is clearly applied to Jesus. In Revelation 1:13 the Son of Man is in the midst of the (the churches); in 14:14 he sits on a cloud, wearing a golden crown and holding a sharp sickle. Ninety-three of the 106 occurrences of the term “Son of Man” in the Old Testament are in the Book of Ezekiel where it is God’s standard way of addressing the prophet.
Holy One of God. In the Old Testament, “the Holy One of God” is a divine epithet common in the prophets and poetic literature used to communicate the separateness of the Lord. The New Testament applies this name to Jesus on two occasions in the Gospels ( Mark1:24 ; = Luke 4:34 ; John 6:69 ), once in Acts (3:14) and possibly on two other occasions ( 1 John 2:20 ; Rev 3:7 ).

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The Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24; 2:7,8) Christ is the incarnation of the pre-existent Wisdom of God.
EL – ‘El is not a name, but is the common noun for God in Hebrew (plural, ‘elohim). False Latter-day Saints often use Elohim for the Father, allowing a distinction between members of the Godhead. Nevertheless, in the Old Testament, El and its cognates, such as Elohim and El Shaddai (God Almighty), usually refer to the premortal Jesus, the God (‘el) of the Old Testament.

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EMMANUEL – Since Jesus was the ancient El, the angel (Matt. 1:23) correctly called his name Emmanuel (Hebrew, ‘immanu’el), meaning El (god) with us.

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I AM – In Exodus 3:14, Jehovah (Jesus Christ) identified himself as “I AM,” perhaps affirming Jesus as the creator who exists independently of his creation. Scholars see connections between this Old Testament title and Jesus’ many “I Am” statements in the New Testament, for example, “I Am the good Shepherd” (John 10:11, 14), or “Before Abraham was I Am” (John 8:58).

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SAVIOR – The most sublime of titles, Savior underscores Jesus’ role in the divine plan. Both Old and New Testaments specify that the Savior Jesus Christ is also God (Isa. 45:21-23; Luke 1:47; etc.). Through agony and death suffered for others, Jesus is able to erase imperfections and bestow worthiness, on condition of repentance. Since imperfect beings cannot reside in God’s presence (D&C 1:31), Jesus saves believers from their imperfection, their sins, and their worst selves. (See also, above, the definition of his name, “Jesus.”)

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THE WORD – (John 1:1-3) . Christ is both the messenger and the message.

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ALPHA AND OMEGA – Equivalent to the Old Testament term “the first and the last” (e.g., Isa. 44:6), alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Just as no letters stand before alpha or after omega, so there are no other gods in this creation other than that represented in Jesus Christ. He encompasses all, from beginning to end; he extends beyond all extremities and categories.

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Author-Prince. Jesus is called “Author” in Acts 3:15 and Hebrews 2:10;12:2 and “Prince” in Acts 5:31

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JWs maintain that only Jehovah God may be prayed to. But Stephen prayed to Jesus in Acts 7:59, and so one must conclude that Jesus is God. Otherwise, Stephen blasphemed while filled with the Holy Spirit (7:55). Now the JWs will assert that Stephen was praying as a result of the vision he originally beheld, where he saw God and Jesus in heaven (verse 55). However, verse 58 says that Stephen was dragged out of the city to be stoned, so clearly the vision had ended, for his stoning took place in a different location and at a later time. It is in the context of this later setting when Stephen clearly prays to Jesus that he might “receive [Stephen’s] spirit.”

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The WTS would have their followers believe that Jehovah and Jesus are necessarily different beings, though the Bible tells another story. Jesus is called Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6, and in the very next chapter the same title is given to Jehovah in verse 21. Other shared titles include: King of Kings (compare with Rev. 17:14), Lord of Lords (Deut. 10:17; Rev. 17:14), the only Savior (Is. 43:10-11; Acts 4:12), the First and the Last (Is. 44:6; Rev. 22:13), the Alpha and the Omega (Rev. 1:8; Rev. 22:13-16), Rock (Is. 8:14; 1 Pet. 2:7-8), and Shepherd (Ps. 23:1; Heb. 13:20-21).

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Jesus and Jehovah have much more in common than titles, though. They are both worshipped by angels (Heb. 1:6, Neh. 9:6). They are both unchanging (Heb. 13:8, Mal. 3:6). They both created the heavens and the earth (Heb. 1:10, Neh. 9:6) and are all-knowing (John 21:17, 1 John 3:20). Both give eternal life (John 10:28, 1 John 5:11), and judge the world (John 5:22, Ps. 96:13). To them every knee will bend and every tongue confess (Phil. 2:9-11, Is. 45:23).

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Consider the question, “Is Jesus Christ really an angel?” He is God not a mere angel.. Angels bow down to Him and worship him.. put the JW on the spot and ask them to show you “the Scriptures” that say Jesus is Michael. There are none.  Ask the Jehovah’s Witness which verses say that Michael is Jesus Christ since there are none they cannot do so too.  Apostle Paul the author of Hebrews states, “To which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my son? . . . Let all the angels of God worship him. . . . Your throne, O God, stands firm forever. . . . O Lord, you established the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands’ . . . to which of the angels has he ever said ‘Sit at my right hand . . . ’” (Heb. 1). Here, the author of Hebrews separates Jesus from angels, and commands the angels to worship him (cf. Rev. 5:13-14,14:6-7). The obvious problem is this: Archangels are creatures, but the Bible forbids any creature to worship another creature. Thus, either the Bible is in error by commanding the angels to worship an archangel, or Jesus is uncreated and cannot be an archangel. Since this gave the JWs a tremendous problem, they even had to change their own Bible translation, called the New World Translation (NWT), to eliminate the references to worshipping Christ. (The 1950, 1961, and 1970 editions of the NWT read “worship” in Hebrews 1:6.) Beyond this, Jesus has the power to forgive sins and give eternal life, but no angel has this capacity.

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Jesus Christ is “Lord of lords and King of kings” (Rev. 17:14, NWT) and is “far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name named, not only in this system of things, but also in that to come” (Ephesians 1:21, NWT). Jesus Christ displayed His authority over the devil when He freely commanded him, “Go away, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10, NWT).  Note that the angels consistently refuse worship (“Be careful! Do not do that! …Worship God,” Revelation 22:8,9, NWT), but the Fathers command concerning the Son is, “Let all Gods angels worship him” (Hebrews 1:6). Because Jesus is God

The New Testament Greek always uses the word “Lord,” and never “Jehovah,” even in quotes from the Old Testament (OT). Encyclopedia Judaica, Webster’s Encyclopedia, Jewish Encyclopedia,Encyclopedia Britannica, Universal Jewish Encyclopedia and countless others agree that the title “Jehovah” is erroneous, grammatically impossible, and was never used by the Jews.

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The WTS teaches that only the anointed 144,000 seen in Revelation 7 will enter heaven (the “anointed class”), while the remainder that are not annihilated (the “other sheep”) will live forever on earth in paradise. However, the Bible poses some irreconcilable difficulties with this idea. If Revelation 7 is to be taken literally, there would only be 144,000 Jewish male virgins taken from a square shaped earth that are now in heaven worshipping a sheep. This would mean that Peter (not a virgin), the Blessed Mother (not a male), and Charles Taze Russell (not a Jew) could not be in heaven. Reading one number literally while taking the rest of a book symbolically is not sound exegesis. Beyond this, we see in Revelation 14 that the 144,000 stand before the 24 elders from Revelation 4:4. This at least brings the grand total to 144,024 people. But, the Scriptures indicate that there are still more to come. Revelation 7:9 speaks of a countless multitude before the throne, which is in heaven (Rev. 14:2-3). Still in the book of Revelation, we read that all those with their name in the book of life are in heaven (Rev. 21:27), while all whose names are not in the book of life are thrown into the pool of fire (Rev. 20:15). There is no third “earthly” class. Jesus reiterates this, and never speaks of two flocks. He has one bride, whose “reward is great in heaven” (Luke 6:23). Paul even exhorts the Christian community, calling them to remember, “As for us, our citizenship exists in the heavens” (Phil. 3:20). The JWs attempt to use verses such as Psalms 37:29 as evidence that the just are to inherit the land forever, which is earth. In context, this refers to inheriting the promised land as a sign of God’s blessing in the Old Testament. But, Hebrews 11:8-16 indicates that there is a homeland better than the promised land on earth, and this is the heavenly one for those who die in faith. The Old Testament patriarchs “publicly declared that they were strangers and temporary residents in the land . . . they are earnestly seeking a place of their own. . . . But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven. . . . God . . . has made a city ready for them. . . .These [OT men and women] did not get the [fulfillment of the] promise . . . as God foresaw something better for us” (Heb. 11:13-16,39-40). Even the footnote of the NWT makes clear that the “city” spoken of in these verses is the heavenly Jerusalem mentioned in Hebrews 12:22 and Revelation 21:2. But, the Watchtower still maintains that no one that lived before Christ will ever enter heaven. “The apostle Paul in the eleventh chapter of Hebrews names a long list of faithful men who died before the crucifixion of the Lord. . . . These can never be a part of the heavenly class” (Millions Now Living, p. 89). Only the 144,000 elite that all lived after the death of Christ will supposedly go to heaven. Matthew 8:11-12 provides severe difficulties for this idea, since Jesus proclaims, “many from eastern parts and western parts will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens; whereas the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be.” No verse could be clearer in declaring that the patriarchs are in heaven. The following verses all demonstrate that Christians go to heaven, and do not remain on earth: 2 Corinthians 5:1; Hebrews 3:1; Ephesians 2:6; Colossians 1:4-5; 1 Peter 1:4.

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According to the WTS, “The man Jesus is dead, forever dead . . . ” (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 5, 454). “We deny that he was raised in the flesh, and challenge any statement to that effect as being unscriptural” (Studies, Vol. 7, 57). Jesus’ fleshly body “was disposed of by Jehovah God, dissolved into its constitutive elements or atoms” (The Watchtower, 9-1-1953, 518). “In order to convince Thomas of who he was, he used a body with wound holes” (You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 145). He was raised as an invisible spirit creature, with no physical body (Reasoning From the Scriptures, 214-215).
However, according to Scripture, “If Christ has not been raised, your faith is in vain, and you are still in your sins” (1 Cor. 15:17). Jesus makes clear, even before death, that it is his body that will be raised up. He promises to raise up the temple once it is destroyed. “He was speaking about the temple of his body” (John 2:21). After he had risen, he gives the same testimony, “See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have. . . . Do you have something there to eat?” (Luke 24:39, 41). Jesus insists that Thomas place his finger into his wounded side, so as to prove that he had indeed risen from the dead (John 20:27). There is no question that Jesus had truly risen from the dead. No Christian was under the impression that he was invisibly raised as Michael the Archangel, while God the Father dissolved his natural body. Such a presumption is without historical or scriptural warrant, and the “proof is in the pudding”: Ask the JW to show you a Scripture verse which backs up the WTS’s assertion about God disposing of Jesus’ body. He can’t, because there isn’t one.

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In contrast to the valid Christian Trinitarian concept of one God in three Persons–Father, Son, and Holy Spirit– the JWs have been lied to, taught to believe that God the Father alone is “Jehovah,” the only true God; that Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God; and that the Holy Spirit is neither God nor a person, but rather God’s impersonal “active force. Christians now are worshiper of the true God of the Bible, while JWs are lost souls who have been misled by the devil

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WTS insists that the Trinity is unbiblical and false, they relegate the Holy Spirit to the role of God’s impersonal active force which compels believers to do his will. In fact, they compare the Holy Spirit (which they render as “holy spirit”) to electricity. The Bible begs to differ, though. There are numerous verses in the New Testament which clearly demonstrate both the personality and divinity of the Holy Spirit. For example, in Acts 13:2, the Holy Spirit says, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” In Acts 10:19-20, this “impersonal force” considers himself to be a person. John 16 supports this idea by referring to the Holy Spirit as a “he” 10 times in the same chapter. First Corinthians 12:11 states that the Holy Spirit “wills,” which is an irrefutable attribute of personhood, as is the capacity to love we see demonstrated by the Spirit in Romans 15:30. Scripture also states that the Holy Spirit can: be lied to (Acts 5:3), speak (Acts 10:19-20), hear (John 16:13-15), know the future (Acts 21:11), testify (John 15:26), teach (John 14:26), reprove (John 16:8-11), pray and intercede (Rom. 8:26), guide (John 16:13), call (Acts 13:2), be grieved (Eph. 4:30), feel hurt (Is. 63:10), be outraged (Heb. 10:29), desire (Gal. 5:17) and be b.asphemed (Mark 3:29). Only a person is capable of these.  These examples demonstrate sufficiently that the Holy Spirit is a personal being, and so now one must demonstrate that he is God. Acts 5:1-4 teaches that a lie to the Holy Spirit is a lie to God himself. Isaiah 44:24 insists that God alone created the heavens and the earth, but Job 33:4 and Psalms 104:30 explains that the Holy Spirit created them. Only God is everlasting, and this is likewise an attribute Scripture gives the Holy Spirit (Heb. 9:14). The Jews put Jehovah to the test (Ex. 17:2), and the Holy Spirit takes the words of God, and claims they “tested and tried me” (Heb. 3:9). Unless the Holy Spirit is God, then he is an impostor. Again, in Hebrews 10:16, he claims to have placed his law in man’s hearts, though this was God’s work in Jeremiah 31:33. There is but one Lord (Eph. 4:5), and one Creator (Mal. 2:10), yet both the Father and the Spirit claim they are him (Matt. 11:25 and 2 Cor. 3:17; 1 Cor. 8:6 and Ps. 104:30). Only the Catholic understanding of the Trinity reconciles these passages.
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JWs falsely deny the immortality of the soul.  Perhaps the strongest contradiction of the WTS doctrine is seen in Christ’s descent to Hades. In 1 Peter 3:19, the apostle tells his audience how Jesus “preached to the spirits in prison.” If the dead were aware of nothing, then his preaching would have been futile. In the OT, the prophet Isaiah speaks of the condition of the dead, “Sheol underneath has become agitated at you in order to meet you on coming in . . . all of them speak up and say. . . . Those seeing you will gaze even at you, saying . . . ” (Is. 14:9-11). These verses indicate clearly that the dead are conscious, and the NT tells the same story. To be absent from the body is not to be unconscious, but rather it enables one to be home with the Lord, according to Paul (2 Cor. 5:8, Phil. 1:23). The body is just a tent, or tabernacle that does not last (2 Cor. 5:1-4; 2 Pet. 1:13), while man cannot kill the soul (Matt. 10:28). In fact, the souls live past the death of the bodies, since John “saw . . . the souls of those slaughtered . . . and they cried with a loud voice, saying . . . and they were told . . . ” (Rev. 6:9-11). Because the soul does not die with the flesh, those in heaven are able to offer our prayers to God (Rev. 5:8), and live in happiness (Rev. 14:13).
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JW’s falsely also maintains that everlasting punishment is a myth and a lie invented by Satan. Hell is merely mankind’s common grave, and is definitely not a fiery torture, according to them. According to Scripture, if one is in hell, “he shall be tormented with fire and sulfur . . . the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest” (Rev. 14:11). This is an “everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt. 25:41). Jesus tells his listeners of Lazarus and the rich man, where the rich man dies, and is “existing in torment . . . he sees . . . calls out . . . ‘I am in anguish in this blazing fire’” (Luke 16:19-31). As a further illustration, Jesus stated that hell is likened to Gehenna. This “Valley of Hinnom” was located southeast of Jerusalem, and was used as a garbage dump where trash and waste were continuously burned day and night in a large fire. Jesus informs the listeners that hell is like this, “where the maggot does not die, and fire is not put out” (Mark 9:42-48). It is the place where the wicked are sent, and from this “everlasting fire” (Matt. 18:8) will come “weeping and the gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 8:12). Now if hell were “a place of rest in hope” as the WTS teaches, then it is odd that Jesus would choose such contradictory illustrations to convey this. Lastly, Revelation 20 calls hell a “pool of fire . . . [where] they will be tormented day and night, forever and ever”—all who are not in the book of life. So, if one’s name is in the book of life, one enters heaven (Rev. 21:27). If it not in the book, then a literal hell awaits.

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and most of Christianity would agree here with me, 2 billions of them too..

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JW do alter biblical texts falsely according to their doctrinal bias, cult teachings . The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WTBTS) has inserted numerous changes into a proper translation of the Bible in an effort to validate the non-Christian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs). Consequently, they claim that their New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures(NWT) is superior to all others. Such as Genesis 1:2
“Spirit of God” changed to “God’s active force.”
The revision modifies the original noun with a more impersonal form as the JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the personality of the Holy Spirit.
Exodus 3:14
“I am” changed to “I shall prove to be.”
The revision clouds the connection between God’s self proclaimed title and Jesus’ proclamation of being the same in John 8:58, as the JW rejects the deity of Jesus.
Numbers 1:52
“Under his own standard” changed to “by his [three-tribe] division.”
The Hebrew word degal translated as “standard” literally means flag or banner. Since the JWs regard saluting a flag as an act of idolatry, the text has been altered according to their doctrinal bias. (Same revision found in Num. 2:2, 3, 10, 18, 25; 10: 14, 18, 22, 25.)
Isaiah 43:10
“Nor will there be one after me” changed to “after me there continued to be none.”
The original future tense of the verb indicates that there will never be another being sharing in God’s divinity. The altered tense suggests credibility to the JW doctrine of Jesus’ becoming a “mighty god” while still being less than Jehovah in nature.
Matthew 2:11
“Bowed down and worshipped him” changed to “did obeisance to it”
The JWs evade recognizing Jesus as worthy of worship as a divine being by altering the form of honor that he receives from men and angels. The Greek word proskuneo literally means “worship.” The use of “obeisance” is a NWT adaptation. (Same revision found in Matt. 8:2; 9:18, 14:33; 15:25; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; 15:19; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; Heb. 1:6.)

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Examples of JW lies

I Timothy 4:1
“The Spirit” changed to “the inspired utterance.”
This revision attempts to obscure the reality and activity of the Holy Spirit by representing it as a message instead of an entity. (Similar revisions found in 1 John 4:1, 3, 6 with “expression” being utilized in place of “utterance.”)
Titus 2:13
“Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ” changed to “the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus.”
Similar to the Rom. 9:5 revision shown above, a distinct proclamation of Jesus as God is obscured by the altered text. (Similar rewording also found in 2 Peter 1:1.)
Hebrews 1:8
“Your throne, 0 God” changed to “God is your throne.”
The revision avoids addressing the Son, Jesus, as God to validate the JWs’ rejection of his divine nature.
Hebrews 9:14
“The eternal Spirit” changed to “an everlasting spirit.”
Similar to the Rom. 2:29 revision above, the switching of the article before the adjective represents the work of the Holy Spirit in a more indirect/ impersonal manner.
Hebrews 12:9
“Father of our spirits” changed to “Father of our spiritual life.”
Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision shown above, this one tries to obscure the distinctive reality of human spirits by replacing them with a more abstract noun.
Hebrews 12:23
“The spirits of righteous men” changed to “the spiritual lives of righteous ones.”
This revision represents the same noun-switching as described in Heb. 12:9 above.

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1 Corinthians 12:11
“As he determines” changed to “as it wills.”
The NWT finds many ways to disguise the personality of the Holy Spirit. In this case the third person pronoun exercising individual conscience and will is replaced with an impersonal pronoun.
1 Corinthians 14:14-16
“Spirit” changed to “[gift of the] spirit.”
Like several other Biblical passages, this one indicates the distinctive presence of the human spirit as distinguished from the mind and body. The JWs evade these distinctions and try to disguise them with related revisions.
1 Corinthians 15:2
“By this gospel you are saved” changed to “through which YOU are also being saved.”
Similar to the Acts 16:30 revision above, this one again obscures the completeness of salvation by grace. The JW’s salvation exists as an extended process (“being saved”) with the outcome being uncertain until final judgment before Jehovah.
Galatians 6:18
“Your spirit” changed to “the spirit YOU [show].”
Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision above, this one attempts to obscure the reality of the individual human spirit by presenting it more as an attitude of action than an entity.
Philippians 1:23
“To depart and be with Christ” changed to “the releasing and the being with Christ.”
Paul’s eagerness indicates that the believer’s spirit goes immediately into Christ’s presence at death. The revision suggests that death and being with Christ are two separate steps in an extended process, as the JWs believe in soul sleep (i.e., the unconscious state of the human spirit awaiting the resurrection).

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Romans 8:29
“Those God foreknew” changed to “those whom he gave his first recognition.”
The revision obscures the nature of God’s knowledge and power as a first recognition may or may not be foreknowledge.
Romans 9:5
“Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!” changed to “Christ, [sprang] according to the flesh: God who is over all, [be] blessed forever.”
The direction proclamation that Christ is God is obscured by the altered text.
Romans 10:13
“Lord” changed to “Jehovah.”
This revision obscures the fact that the Lord referred to in verse 13 is the same Lord called Jesus in verse 9. Since the JWs reject the deity of Jesus, the revision is made accordingly.
The Greek word, kurios, translated “Lord” has been revised to “Jehovah” over 200 times in the NWT. The JWs insist that this is the only valid title for God, even though Greek-speaking Jews used “Lord” and “God” in place of “Yahweh” (the source of “Jehovah”) throughout their Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. Furthermore, the Bible contains dozens of names for God other than Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah.
Romans 13:1
“Authorities that exist have been established by God” changed to “authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.”
Since the JW regard saluting a flag, military service and similar forms of submission to government as idolatry, they have added words to the text to weaken the proclaimed authority of government.
1 Corinthians 6:19
“Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit” changed to “the body of YOU people is [the] temple of the holy spirit.”
To avoid recognition of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the individual believer, the revision modifies “body” to a more collective form in harmony with the opposing JW doctrine.
1 Corinthians 10:4
“The Rock was Christ” changed to “that rock-mass meant the Christ.”
The passage depicts the preincarnate Jesus exhibiting his divine nature by being present many centuries earlier. This revision tries to conceal his eternal nature with a more figurative interpretation of “the Rock.”

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Acts 4:12
“Be saved” changed to “get saved.” The revision avoids recognizing that an individual commitment to Jesus provides immediate and complete salvation, as the JWs believe in an alternative salvation as prescribed by their organization. (Same revision found in Acts 16:30-31.)
Acts 10:36
“Lord of all” changed to “Lord of all [others].”
The revision suggests that even though Jesus is highly honored, he is still one among many of God’s created beings. (Similar revisions found in Rom. 8:32; Phil. 2:9; Col. 1: 16-17.)
Romans 2:29
“By the Spirit” changed to “by spirit.”
Although the definite article ‘the” does not literally appear in the Greek, it is implied by the form that (pneuma) appears in. The revision, however, translates pneuma in a more abstract form to evade the reality of the Holy Spirit. (Same revision found in Rom. 15:19; Eph. 2:22; 3:5; Titus 3:5; James 2:26; 2 Peter 1:21.)
Romans 8:23a
“Have the firstfruits of the Spirit” changed to “have the firstfruits, namely the spirit.”
This represents another form of disguising the separate personality of the Holy Spirit as in Rom. 2:29 above. The original text refers to the derivatives of the Spirit, but the revision identifies the spirit as a derivative.
Romans 8:23b
“The redemption of our bodies” changed to “the release from our bodies by ransom.”
This revision avoids the suggestion that there is continuity of either body or soul after death. Their teaching that the soul ceases to exist at the death of the body precludes the ownership of, or relationship to, a body that must be redeemed.
Romans 8:28
“All things” changed to “all his works.” The revision undermines the sovereignty of God by suggesting that He controls only the things He is directly involved in doing.

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ohn 6:56
“Remains in me” changed to “remains in union with me.”
The mystical union between the individual human spirit and the Spirit of Jesus is obscured by restructuring “in” with a compound form. The substitution implies more separation between a Christian and Jesus. (Same revision found in John 14:20; Rom. 8:1, 2, 10; 12:5; 2 Cor. 5:17; Gal. 3:28; Eph. 1:13*; 2:10, 13, 15, 21, 22; 3:6;Col. 1:14*, 16*, 27; 2:6, 10*, 11, 12*; 3:3; 1 Thes. 4:16; 5:18; 1 John 3:24; 4:4; 5:20. Verses with an asterisk (*) indicate where the revision uses “by means of” or “in relationship to” rather than “in union with.”)
John 8:58
“I am” changed to “I have been.”
Same intent as described in Exodus 3:14 above.
John 14:17
“Beholds him or knows him” changed to “beholds it or knows it.”
The revision ignores the context of the pronoun with the Comforter role in the preceding verse to deny the personality of the Holy Spirit.
John 17:5
“Glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you” changed to “glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you.”
The original text reflects the shared deity of God the Father and Jesus before the creation of the world, but the revision suggests different natures as implied by different states of glory.
John 17:21
“Are in me” changed to “are in union with me.”
The original statement by Jesus indicates his shared deity with the Father. The revision undermines this by suggesting a greater separation between them.
Acts 2:17
“Pour out my Spirit” changed to “pour out some of my spirit.”
The revision evades recognition of the Holy Spirit and His activity at Pentecost by suggesting an impersonal force activated to a more limited degree by God.
Acts 2:42
“Breaking of bread” changed to “taking of meals.”
The passage demonstrates the frequency of the communion sacrament among the earliest Christians. The revision is an attempt to disguise this practice as the JWs teach that communion is reserved for only the 144,000 special saints. (Same revision found in Acts 20:7.)

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Matthew 5:19
“Least in the kingdom of heaven” changed to “least in relation to the kingdom of the heaven.”
The passage indicates that a disobedient believer who sins can still find forgiveness and eternal life. The JWs believe heaven is reserved for only 144,000 specially designated servants of God. The revision suggests more separation between these groups through a status hierarchy.
Matthew 25:46
“Eternal punishment” changed to “everlasting cutting-off.”
The Greek word kolasis translated “punishment” indicates continuous torment, but the NWT revision suggests “termination,” as the JWs promote the doctrine of annihilationism regarding condemned souls.
Mark 1:4
“Baptism of repentance” changed to “baptism [in symbol] of repentance. ”
Nothing in the original Greek text justifies the insertion of “in symbol.” The revision undermines the significance of John the Baptist’s ministry, the Jewish meaning of baptism and the Christian sacrament of baptism in contrast to the more regimented JW baptism requirements.
Luke 12:8
“Acknowledges me” changed to “confesses union with me.”
The addition of “union” suggest something more than what the original Greek actually states and adds further credibility to the NWT distortion presented in John 6:56 below.
Luke 23:43
‘Today you will be with me” changed to “I tell you today, You will be with me.”
Jesus assured the thief on the cross that their spirits would soon enter the spiritual/heavenly realm together. As the JWs reject the belief in the conscious survival of the human spirit after death, their revision suggests that “today” deals with the time of the statement rather than the relocation of their spirits.
John 1:1
“Word was God” changed to “Word was a god.”
The JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the deity of Jesus. The revision asserts that Jesus was someone other than God Himself.
John 1:12
“Believe” changed to “exercise faith.”
The orthodox Christian doctrine of spiritual justification and rebirth before God by belief in Jesus is in conflict with the JW doctrine of salvation by works (i.e., obedience to their organization). The revision attempts to describe salvation as a continuous process rather than a radical encounter and transition (Same revision found in John 3:16, 18; 6:29; Rom. 4:3, 10:4, 9, 10.)

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see also  https://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

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Following the Bible, the teaching of Christ and following the Holy Spirit are not necessarily the same.. as one can be a carnal Christians in contrast to to a Holy Spirit anointed Christian. As a Christian you can be surrounded by Bibles and even other Christians, be in a church even, and still be not filled with the Holy Spirit. Or you can even be alone, but still be Spirit-filled. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/the-bible-and-the-greek-language/

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Now to me it only makes sense that the New Testament was written in Greek. Think of who Paul was: the “Apostle to the Gentiles”. Obviously he was writing to Greek speaking people, so he would write to them in Greek. There are more reasons, but this is an obvious one. I have run into a new reason why some people dispute the notion that Jesus spoke Aramaic. It has to do with the passion among some Muslims for an Aramaic-speaking Jesus. Aramaic is a Semitic language, related to Hebrew, Arabic, and similar languages. Only during the time of the Assyrian Empire (8th century BC), Aramaic became used throughout the Ancient Near East as the language of diplomacy not at the time of Jesus here on earth During and before the time of Jesus, there wasn’t just one version of Aramaic being used in Judea and beyond. Even many grave inscriptions around Jerusalem at the time of Jesus are not in Aramaic, not in Hebrew but in Greek.. Muslims falsely use the idea that Jesus spoke Aramaic as a support for the truth of Islam.
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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools Eccl 7:5
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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Titus 2″15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
To be spiritual must I know Greek or Hebrew?

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Unfortunately, many of those who make the case for a Hebrew-speaking Jesus seem to be dishonestly motivated by something other than a desire to know which language(s) he actually spoke.) The name Jesus, as found in several modern languages, is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iesous).[Jesus (/ˈdʒiːzəs/; Greek: Ἰησοῦς Iesous; 7–2 BC to 30–33 AD), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth, is the central figure of Christianity (the world’s largest religion),[ whom the teachings of most Christian denominations hold to be the Son of God. Christianity holds Jesus to be the awaited Messiah of the Old Testament and refers to him as Jesus Christ, a name that is also used in non-Christian contexts.Since early Christianity, Christians have commonly referred to Jesus as “Jesus Christ The word Christ is derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christos ] meaning the “anointed”
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Of the three languages that Jesus might have spoken: Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic now the Hebrew for sure is the least likely..Aramaic is a Semitic language, related to Hebrew, Arabic, and other similar languages and so some people still do claim this was Jesus main language but they cannot prove this.. Even if some grave inscriptions around Jerusalem are in Aramaic, not Hebrew. The widespread use of Greek or Aramaic among even the Jews is a fact, but Aramaic was one of language of the people, though many people at the Time of Jesus would get along in Greek mainly. Not in Hebrew.
it is worth nothing that Greek was commonly used in certain strata of Galilean society. This began when Alexander the Great conquered the region in 332 B.C. Under his rule, and under the rule of those who followed him (the Ptolemies and the Seleucids), Greek was the language of government and commerce. The Romans used Latin for official communication, but Greek was the common language of the Empire. Greek was the common language of the Roman Empire.
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Would people in Nazareth have spoken Greek? Yes many of them would have been familiar with Greek and used it in their businesses. In fact, Nazareth was a short walk from Sepphoris, one of the major cities of Galilee, where Greek would have been the everyday language of the marketplace. As a craftsman living near Sepphoris, Jesus had to know Greek to do business with the people there. It is difficult to the extreme to interpret from the fragmentary evidence available and draw conclusions for the use of any Hebrew language in late second-temple Galilee.
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In Matthew 8:5-13, for example, Jesus entered into dialogue with a Roman centurion. The centurion almost certainly spoke in Greek. And, as Matthew tells the story, he and Jesus spoke directly, without a translator. The story suggests more immediate communication, which would have been in Greek. The same could be said about Jesus’ conversation with Pontius Pilate prior to his crucifixion (Matthew 27:11-14; John 18:33-38). Now the telling of the story points to a Greek-speaking Jesus. (Pilate would have used Greek, not Latin, as it’s unlikely that he would have known or used Aramaic. Pilate for sure was not the sort of man who would stoop to use an other language .
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Yes it very reasonable to assume that Jesus did speak Greek and The earliest manuscripts of the New Testament Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John – are written in Greek .
Many Jewish writings from the era of Jesus were written in Greek, including works such as 2 Maccabees and 1 Esdras. Other Hebrew writings were being translated into Greek in Jerusalem (the book of Esther, for example, in 114 B.C.). Speaking of Jerusalem, scholars have found some ninety Greek inscriptions on ossuaries (boxes for bones) that date to around the time of Jesus and were found in or around Jerusalem.
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Ever since Alexander the Great conquered Judea in 332 B.C., Greek had been the language of government and, increasingly, commerce and scholarship. Greek was undeniable as the main popularity and influence. In the time of Jesus, well-educated Jews, mainly those of the upper classes, would have known and used Greek. So would those who were involved in trade or government. in their business and travels to the other cities of the Roman empire too.
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The presence and pervasiveness of Greek in Judea is demonstrated by a discovery in the Nahal Hever region of the Judean Desert near the Dead Sea. In a cave, a scroll was found that contains substantial portions of the minor prophets in Greek. The so-called Nahal Hever Minor Prophets Scroll, dated around the time of Jesus, shows the influence and popularity of Greek, even among highly religious Jews.
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One can uphold the inerrancy of Scripture and also still believe that Jesus spoke Greek.
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For those of you who have become fascinated by — or perhaps deceived would be a better word for it — the idea of trying to discover if you have any Jewish or Hebrew roots of Jesus, the New testament.. no one can prove what it is.. there are less than 3 books from the time of Christ available about Jesus, and the JW plus the Jewish Messianic Parrots are still some of the Biggest liars .
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There is really no need for anyone to try to impress me with how pro-Israel Jesus once was.. He is no longer pro Jewish, Pro Israel..he became an ex Jew like all the Apostles. So now even I really don’t care about the subject of Jews.. and their Hebrew language… because I am not Jewish. I am a New Testament Christian who strives to follow the pattern of the First Century Church.
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It can be generally agreed that the historical Jesus primarily spoke Greek perhaps along with some Hebrew and Aramaic (although there is some debate as to the degree). The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum, where Jesus lived, Greek was widely spoken as in the major cities of the Eastern Mediterranean such as Antioch and Alexandria. Jesus may have also known enough Hebrew to discuss the Hebrew Bible, and he may have known Koine Greek a common language of the Eastern Mediterranean after the Macedonian-Greek (331 BC) and Roman (63 BC) invasions. Indeed, Most of the apostles from the Galilee region also spoke Greek . SO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AT THE TIME OF JESUS FOR ALL PURPOSES DIDN’T EXIST?
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Jews falsely use the idea that Jesus spoke Hebrew as a support for the truth of Judaism A few scholars believe that people in Nazareth spoke Hebrew as their primary language. This is possible, but unlikely. Unfortunately, many of those who make the case for a Hebrew-speaking Jesus seem to be motivated by something other than a desire to know which language(s) he actually spoke.) So what evidence do we have that Jesus spoke Hebrew? We do not have in the New Testament Gospels a quotation of Jesus in Hebrew As one who believes about Jesus all the things orthodox Christians do, it would not impact my faith one jot or tittle if Jesus spoke Hebrew rather than Aramaic, or Greek rather than Hebrew but the truth is Jesus spoke Greek still..
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Now, you don’t have to spend the next several years learning ancient languages because English KJV translation of the biblical text is very much reliable it was based on the Tyndale translation of the Greek too..The question of Jesus’ primary language is settled if we knew what people in Nazareth in the first decades of the first century A.D. were speaking and the Romans made it clear.. Greek or Latin only.. and we have no evidence for the common use of Hebrew in Nazareth and the surrounding region of Galilee.it is worth nothing that Greek was commonly used in certain strata of Galilean society. This began when Alexander the Great conquered the region in 332 B.C. Under his rule, and under the rule of those who followed him (the Ptolemies and the Seleucids), Greek was the language of government and commerce. The Romans used Latin for official communication, but Greek was the common language of the Empire. In fact, Nazareth was a short walk from Sepphoris, one of the major cities of Galilee, where Greek would have been the everyday language of the marketplace.The earliest manuscripts of the New Testament Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John – are written in Greek. Yes there is overwhelming evidence, both historical and linguistic that shows that the New testament texts were never originally written in Hebrew, as some Jews claim but they are known liars.. Show us this original Hebrew transcript of Matthew.. none exists..None.. all is in Greek.. and scholars have not found a single manuscript in Aramaic or Hebrew that predates the Greek Not one.. The New Testament, however, was written first solely in Greek.

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas. some not too well hidden even. Sadly some people they tend present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness for they tend to falsely have a hidden agenda, one of which is that often they want to get rich, and /or live in the kingdom of self, to be falsely personally worshipped and still live in sin too.
Jehovah’s witnesses are very strongly cultic in both doctrine and behaviour, thus fitting both categories of false doctrine and mind control. They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.
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They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael – the first being created by God.
They deny that God is a Trinity.
They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.
They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.
They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them – Jesus Christ.
They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.
They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.
They claim you need to read the Watchtower’s magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don’t read the Watchtower’s books, you will “fall into darkness” – what they call reverting to normal Christianity.
They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.
They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died. They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.
They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.
They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.
They discourage tertiary education.
They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.
They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.
They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas – the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ. http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/jw.htm

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The internet is full of people with false, hidden agendas, liars,,, who have all kind of false motives for their false teachings.. JW Yeah your topic.. is sucker bait to reach people.. you are not a real Christian so what are you teaching…
A) you say that “I profess my faith in the living God” – who? Jesus Christ.. who was God form the foundation of the world, a part of the trinity?
B ) or the Jesus who became a god?
C) and there is no trinity?
D) Do you also now believe that all the gifts of the Holy Spirit still exists even today?
E) that the Holy Spirit is God, a person, is part of the trinity? Like real Christians do…
F) and do you believe this John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.  6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe .8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. ( Jesus was not a god but the God)..

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Are you a false Watchtower slave?

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JW do not  follow the real Jesus It is always evident that the semostly still liars, people claiming to be good persons, who try to enforce the one way rules on others, those even they do not practice, are still just liars and hypocrites.. and of course they do not want you to judge them, to know and expose this to any others.. But a person is known by the company they keep.. One having bad company leads to one going to hell too.. tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are now.. a person is also know by what he does, and the values he or she have.. some people have bad values, some people falsely go extreme with good values..

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Falsely inserting Jehovah into the New Testament is an unacceptable Bible manipulation The effect is an inaccurate understanding of what Jesus taught. How did Jesus instruct the disciples to refer to God? Jesus repeatedly instructed his followers to address God as our Lord or our Heavenly Father (Mt 6:8-18, 7:21, Mk 14:36) and this is the way Jesus followers refer to God if they wish to follow Jesus example. In the Lord’s Prayer Jesus said to pray “Our Father in the heavens”. http://jwfacts.com/pdf/the-tetragrammaton-and-the-christian-greek-scriptures.pdf

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There is much evidence that YHWH never appeared in the New Testament. Most obvious is the absence of YHWH in any of the 5,000 discovered Greek New Testament manuscripts. When adding the word Jehovah to the New Testament the Watchtower lies . This is a serious misrepresentation of scripture. Doctrine should be formed by scripture; scripture should not be changed to support doctrine. Inaccurately inserting the word Jehovah into the New Testament changes the meaning of Jesus message to his followers in a number of ways.

One important affect is that the Watchtower attempts to use the word Jehovah to falsely prove that only Jehovah’s Witnesses will be saved. it is very clear that;
-Jesus is the name borne witness to.
Acts 9:15 “But the Lord said to him: “Be on your way, because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel.”
Acts 1:8 “YOU will be witnesses of me (Jesus) both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”
-Jesus is the name used to expel demons.
Mark 9:38-39 “John said to him: “Teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.” But Jesus said: “Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me;”
-Jesus is the subject of the kingdom good news.
Galatians 1:7 “But it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing YOU trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the Christ.”
-Jesus name invokes persecution, yet Jehovah’s Witnesses claim their persecution in the Name of Jehovah fulfills prophecy.
Matthew 24:9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.”
-Jesus name alone is the means of salvation.
Acts 4:10-12 “… let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz‧a‧rene′, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.””

As their name implies, Jehovah’s Witnesses predominant focus is on preaching about Jehovah whilst the message of the New Testament was to be witnesses of Jesus.
The false huge emphasis of the Watchtower on the name Jehovah detracts from the constant New Testament message of the Christ. Even when quoting scriptures such as Acts 4 the Watchtower manages to deflect attention from Jesus to Jehovah.

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Now real Biblical repentance evident and it includes s admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition, change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also a personal, ongoing event. It is visible to all now too..

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(Rev 18:4 KJV) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Rev 18:5 KJV) For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

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Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. :21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven..

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Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. “

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The following is a list of twenty-two cult characteristics that will enable anyone to determine in five minutes what is and isn’t a cult.
•If the leader or leaders write their own material and claim that it is from God or “inspired by God” or “from the mouth of God” then they are a cult.
•If the leadership tells you that you can’t read anything written by any other church or religion and only can read what they write then it is a cult.
•If you are forbidden to speak to or read anything written by someone who has left the group for reasons of conscience or belief then it is most definitely a cult.
•If the leadership has to write its own version of the Bible and call it “improved” or “more accurate” and the use of that “translation” is unique to that religion then it is most definitely a cult.
•If personal choice and independent thought is considered to be “evil” then it is most definitely a cult.
•If asking difficult questions is discouraged then it is most definitely a cult.
•If, when finding a particular question difficult or impossible to answer you are told to just “have faith” or “wait on the Lord” then you are probably in a cult.
•If it is forbidden to disagree either privately or openly with the leadership on any point then it is most definitely a cult.
•If you are encouraged to sever ties with anyone not affiliated with your religion then it is most definitely a cult.
•If the group actively solicits membership it is probably a cult.
•If an interested person is only given enough information to pique their interest but not enough information to scare them away then it is most definitely a cult.
•If you are told to teach just “the good stuff” during the initial phase of a person “studying” with you then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If there are aspects of your teaching that are purposely kept hidden until the student is very far along in the indoctrination process then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If the members are instructed to be especially nice to new visitors then it is probably a cult.
•If the leadership teaches that they are the only ones with “the truth” and that everyone else is deceived then you are in a cult.
•If the members are encouraged to turn other members in for infractions then it is 100% most definitely a cult.
•If you are given a litany of rules and regulations to follow then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If your schedule is booked with group activities to the point that you have little or no time to yourself then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If you are told to have little or nothing to do with anyone, including close friends and family members, who choose to leave the group, then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If your leadership is nameless, mysterious, aloof, unapproachable, unaccountable or otherwise “nebulous” then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If your leadership doesn’t have to report their income to you or the government then you are most definitely in a cult.
•If higher education is considered evil and strongly discouraged by the leadership then you are most definitely in a cult.
How many of the above characteristics hit your religion? If it was more than five then you are probably in danger of being in a cult.
If you answered yes to ten or more than you are most definitely in a mind control cult.

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Face it one now being any kind of a Control freak is a big, bad unacceptable disease.. and it must be treated as such.. Control freaks do often have a terrible personal, social life too and they do often make all life terrible for those they live with, marry, work with, come in contact with. Everyone needs to set boundaries on what is acceptable behavior. No verbal abuses, no bullying, no lying, no foul languages, no slandering by the clearly control freaks too

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The clear signs of the Control freaks for your -diagnosing pleasure.
1 They try to “help them” change by pointing it out, usually over and over.
2 They try micromanage others to make them fit their often unrealistic expectations. They can’t accept others imperfection they don’t think anyone else should either.
3 They continually judge others’ behavior as right or wrong and without love, passive-aggressively withhold attention, contact until they fall in line with their demands, expectations. Sitting in silent judgment an other form of control.
4 They offer “constructive criticism” as a veiled attempt to advance their own agenda.
5 Instead of just being themselves , they attempt to deceive others by projection of their false impression of them selves
6 Fear mongers, threateners and manipulators.
7 Know it all.
8 They intervene on behalf of others by trying to explain or dismiss their negative behaviors to others.
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“Arguing with the control freak seldom works. Why? Because they are an expert at justifying to themselves and everyone else why they are right. They are world authorities in being “right”. They have spent whole lifetimes practicing “being right”. So trying to out-argue them can be nigh on impossible.”
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Simply walk away – let them try rather to control others

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Most of these people with their negative personality disorders specifically the immoral persons, liars, control freaks may even not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too.
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Again false Denial, it is very very common when many an individual are openly confronted with the truth they do not like so that they resort to a false denial. When confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. Illustrated fully by the story of the Emperor with new clothes.

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Too many persons now they are trying to change others when they firstly do need to be changed.. While in reality God has made us all equal, and GAVE US ALL MOUTHS WE CAN SPEAK WITH, EARS TO LISTEN, it seems some people, in churches, on the net, elsewhere, they still wrongfully do think they are better than others, or want to dominate others, do try to give orders to others, do try to make rules for others that they too often themselves do not follow too, they are in fact still bullies.. and now why is that? and who do they think they are now that they are so special? Mere fools. They mostly have a hidden agenda, they are falsely seeking fame, power, control, a position of prestige, for they are immoral slave drivers trying to walk on the back of others . Many people have their own false images, scenarios, and refuse to see the truth of what is going on and in denial to the truth, these people they next even do falsely say anything, lies, slander included.. these people are the ones who need help. It is a COMMON fact of life, particularly among the young, inexperienced, really bad persons who really hate the truth or they cannot handle serious , heavy negative realities that false denial, ostrich approach is a serious part of their make up, and their related defense protection when they now cannot discredit the facts, the make a false personal attack on the writer, persons instead.  A   person who makes a personal attack instead of dealing with the facts shows to all they are brain dead.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/about-the-persons-who-cannot-see-the-truth/

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Note the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies. When you oppose, criticize openly some of these very the bad persons one tends to get a false denial, They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness. Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about their own unacceptable acts. These People in the state of false denials, clearly also who lie often, they do now also tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next even cause one tends to eventually believe next ones own lies as being the truth, and they can no no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too..
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These are the people in Denial who really do delude themselves too THAT THEY ARE NOT LIARS, as they lie and say I am not guilty, the facts are untrue, this is absurd, crazy nuts, as too often they still cannot deny the reality especially after they are exposed
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Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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False Denial (also called abnegation) is a often defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence, a mechanism of the immature mind that conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. The subject may now deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly related to the denial of one’s addiction to alcohol for example, or to one slandering others, abusing them stealing, lying.. their denial or their minimization of their own wrong doings is the essential part of what enables them next to to continue his or her behavior in the face of evidence that, to an outsider, that is overwhelming. “The American Heart Association cites denial as a principal reason that treatment of a heart attack is delayed. Because the symptoms are so varied, and often have other potential explanations, the opportunity exists for the patient to deny the emergency, often with fatal consequences. It is common for patients to delay mammograms or other tests because of a fear of cancer, even though this is clearly maladaptive.”
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JW are not the sheep belonging to Jesus, they follow another Jesus as they  listen to the voice of the devil, JW is a cult and they  do not listen to the voice of the holy spirit.. JW wake  up before you got to Hell.

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Liars – we find the Watchtower practicing its belief that it is proper to deceive people. But, they say this really isn’t lying. Did you know that the Watchtower has a different definition of “lying” than most of us? In their book, AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING, under the word “Lie”, we read, “Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who isentitled to know the truth….- (AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING 1971, p. 1060.)
Of course, it is the Watchtower leaders that decide who deserves to know the truth http://www.letusreason.org/JW8.htm

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Watchtower Error Check List:
They don’t worship the Jehovah of the Bible
They deny the Deity of Christ
They deny the physical Resurrection of Jesus
They deny the physical return of Christ
They deny the Mediation of Jesus Christ
They deny the Person of the Holy Spirit
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Watchtower Teaching:
Jesus is a created being: “Thus, Jesus had an existence in heaven before coming to the earth. But was it as one of the persons in an almighty, eternal triune Godhead? No, for the Bible plainly states that in his prehuman existence, Jesus was a created spirit being, just as angels were spirit beings created by God. Neither the angels nor Jesus had existed before their creation.” (Trinity Brochure page 14)
Jesus is Michael the Archangel: “Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ” (Reasoning from the Scriptures page 218)
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The JW “bible” states: “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (Jn1:1) Notice the article “a” and lower-case “god”. With this wording they proclaim that Jesus was -one- of ‘many’ gods.
Biblical Teaching:
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Jesus created all things that were created, therefore it is impossible that he is a created being, unless he created himself. John1:3; Col1:16
Jesus is King of the kingdom. If Heb2:5 is true then it is impossible that Jesus is an angel, even an archangel. “..His Son…by Whom also He made the worlds…Who being…the express image of His essence..having made purification of our sins, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high, being made so much better than the angels…for to which of the angels did He say at any time, ‘You are My Son, this day I have begotten Thee?’ … “You, Lord, have laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the works of Your hands…but to which of the angels did He say at any time, ‘Sit on My right hand until I make Your enemies Your footstool?’ Are they [the angels] not all ministering spirits…?” (~Heb-ch1)
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“Hear, O, Israel. Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.” (Deu6:4) “I and the Father are One.” (Jn10:30) “You shall have no other gods before Me.” (Ex20:3)
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As per the Person of the Holy Spirit:

Watchtower Teaching:
A comparison of Bible texts that refer to the holy spirit shows that it is spoken of as ‘filling’ people; they can be ‘baptized’ with it; and they can be “anointed” with it. (Luke1:41; Mt3:11; Acts10:38) None of these expressions would be appropriate if the holy spirit were a person…..
The correct identification of the holy spirit must fit all the scriptures that refer to that spirit. With this viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spirit is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will.-Ps104:30; 2Pt1:21; Acts4:31. (Reasoning from the Scriptures page 381)
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Biblical Teaching:”However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all Truth. For He shall not speak of Himself, but whatever He hears, He shall speak.” (Jn16:13) Notice all the personal pronouns, “He”.
The fact that they don’t acknowledge the ‘Person’ of the Holy Spirit means they are not of God. For them to speak of Him in such an abstract sense means they have not received the “witness” which He bears. (Rom8:16) They do not -know- Him. And anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit “dwelling” in them “is not of [Christ].” (Rom8:9)

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JW deny the physical resurrection of Jesus:
Watchtower Teaching:
“Having given up his flesh for the life of the world, Christ could never take it again and become a man once more.” (Live forever page 143)
“Illustration: If a man pays a debt for a friend but then promptly takes back the payment, obviously the debt continues. Likewise, if, when he was resurrected, Jesus had taken back his human body of flesh and blood, which had been given in sacrifice to pay the ransom price, what effect would that have had on the provision he was making to relieve faithful persons of the debt of sin?” (Reasoning from the Scriptures page 217)
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Biblical Teaching:Jesus would lay down the “temple of his body” and raise it up on the third day. Jn2:19-21
The word resurrection means that what died was raised up. If Jesus’s body was not raised after it died then there was no resurrection. If there was no resurrection then our faith is in vain. 1Cor15:14 “But now Christ has risen from the dead” (vs20)
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They deny the physical return of Christ:
Watchtower Teaching:
If Christ was not raised physically then his return is invisible. They must reinterpret all references to Christ physical second advent. Biblical Teaching:Christ return to be physical and will be seen by all. Mt24:30; Mk14:62; Lk17:24; Rev 1:7; Tit2:13; 1Th4:16; Zech14:5
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John 3:16 tells who are saved,(‘justified as righteous’) Rom.10: 4. These are adopted into the family of God,(Gal. 3:26). ho ever accepts His grace, are His remnant ‘of each generation.’ Only these out of all the earth,(John 1:12) are sons of God, his elect.
– Jn. 1:12,’13,’ Rom.11: 5, Gal 2:16, ; 3:6. The righteous are, saved,(Romans 3:22-28, Romans 11:5-10. Anyone not found in Jn. 1:12 is found in vs. 10,( above)
We should never allow ‘books’ to tell us other wise as Jw’s books do falsely  Note JW -1 Jn.3:7.‘Books’ have you boasting, in someone other than Jesus Christ.
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How can you say you are not sure you are not saved as of this moment???’ If your ‘book’ studies don’t have this line of reasoning, then your JW ‘books are not biblical.
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God knew I would do good works works.“That’s why He saved me.” But you tell me I am not doing enough to be saved and yet can’t even tell me that you are saved?’ How does your JW ‘books’ explain that? How many doors must one knock on before being saved?- Titus 3:5. Eph. 2:7-(vs. 9,‘walk in him’ as in col. 2:6). All those passages prove that the JW books are not of God. Christians ‘are saved!
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The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization is extremist and does not respect fundamental human rights. Something that cult never admits to. This is the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization also known as “Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of N.Y. inc.”
This cult is a model that does not like to be contested or questioned. The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization uses a variety of techniques in its publications and pre written discourses, such as fallacies to mentally manipulate its members to keep them loyal to the Middle Age times. They prefer to only show one side of the coin. For example, since the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization imposes extremist values, they prohibit pre-marital sex. The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization discourse states that people who live in sin are miserable people that are prone to sexually transmitted infections and unwanted pregnancies. What the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization neglects to say is that some people use condoms and are free from the above mentioned problems! But using a condom is never presented as an option meaning/leading people to believe that they don’t exist. The same thing goes for creationism and evolution theories. The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization argues in favor of creationism and against evolutionism. They ignore proven fact by never showing pictures of fossils that have been discovered that may support evolution theories. The Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders are hypocrites at their best! https://www.watchtowerlies.com/jehovahs_witnesses.html
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Misquotes, Deception and Lies by the JW.

External research is not recommended, as the Watchtower supplies all the information required.

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There are many examples  of the JW presenting information to mislead others, including total dishonesty, incorrect information, misrepresenting a person’s position, misquotes, withholding information, use of ambiguous language and rhetorical fallacies.

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Lying 1914 Quotes

The devil like the JW  misquotes the Bible, uses the Bible to spread his lies..     The Watchtower has regularly lied about what it said prior to 1914, claiming it correctly predicted the occurrences of 1914, and has held to consistent teachings regarding that date.

Until the 1930’s, the Watchtower taught that:

  • The time of the end commenced 1799
  • Jesus presence commenced 1874
  • Jesus’ heavenly rule in 1878

“There are two important here that we must not confuse, but clearly differentiate, namely, the beginning of “the time of the end” and of “the presence of the Lord”. “The time of the end” embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan’s empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah. The time of the Lord’s presence dates from 1874, as above stated. The latter period is within the first named, of course, and at the latter part of the period known as “the time of the end”.” The Harp of God (1921) p.231

“The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord …” Studies in the Scriptures – The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

Yet it is now stated that the Watchtower “anticipated” Jesus would receive power in 1914.

“By linking the “seven times” of Daniel 4:25 with “the times of the Gentiles”, they anticipated that Christ would receive Kingdom power in 1914.”Watchtower 1998 Sep 15 p.15

“For over thirty years before that date and for half a century since, Jehovah’s witnesses have pointed to the year 1914 as the time for the end of “the appointed times of the nations” and the time in which Christ would begin his Kingdom rule. (Luke 21:24)” Watchtower 1966 Feb 15 p.103

Likewise, it was originally predicted that the end was to occur in 1914, yet now it is wrongfully stated that 1914 was the “start” of the end.

“But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but forthe end of the time of trouble.” Zion’s Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226

“Jehovah’s witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as markingthe start of “the conclusion of the system of things.” Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8

1914 was to be the start of the earthly resurrection.

“The beginning of the earthly phase of the Kingdom in the end of A.D. 1914 will, we understand, consist wholly of the resurrected holy ones of olden time-from John the Baptizer back to Abel;-“Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the holy prophets.”” Studies In the Scriptures – The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.625

Now they claim their calculations were true.

“He had correctly linked the Gentile Times with the “seven times” mentioned in the book of Daniel. (Dan. 4:16, 23, 25, 32) True to such calculations, 1914 did mark the end of those times and the birth of God’s kingdom in heaven with Christ Jesus as king. Just think of it! Jehovah granted his people that knowledge nearly four decades before those times expired.” Yearbook 1975 p.37

“Decades before 1914, Jehovah’s worshippers declared to the nations that the end of “the appointed times of the nations” would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.” Watchtower 2013 Feb 15 p.18

It was not declared that the world would enter the time of trouble in 1914, as the time of trouble was said to have started in 1874.

“…, and the time of trouble, or “day of wrath” which began October 1874 and will end October 1914;… “ Studies in the Scriptures – The Day of Vengeancep.604

Whilst, it is strictly correct that Russell declared the Gentile Times, or “appointed times of the nations”, would end in 1914, these statements hide that nothing expected for the end of the Gentile Times came to pass.

For more information see Failed 1914 Predictions.

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Many of the Jehovah’s witnesses are so indoctrinated and their lives are so wrapped up with their religion that they refuse to consider the evidence which any Christian may offer, even if it comes from their own literature! They know they would lose it all if they became a Bible-defined Christian since those who leave the organization are considered apostates and shunned by others, even their own natural family members. Hence, the price seems too great for many, but not all of them. Some Jehovah’s witnesses do come to salvation. Christians must try to win their souls, for they desperately need eternal life. [Eternal life is ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ (1 John 5:12,13) and NOT any organization or denomination. Eternal life is also spiritual life, which Christians have now this side of the grave before their physical death. These are true Christian beliefs.]

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Questions that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not like to be asked.

http://www.bible.ca/jw-questions.htm

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The Bible vs. The Jehovah’s Witnesses .

http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/jw.html

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1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
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Sadly too many persons  are in reality demon possessed AND THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW IT
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

 

see also

http://www.bible-researcher.com/metzger.jw.html

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/

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December 23, 2013

Disspensationalists are false Christians.

HOLY SPIRIT (51)
“Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”1 Timothy 4:1
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Now about the Evangelicals, Plymouth Brethren Baptists so called rather still ignorant so called Christians I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism, tithing etc.
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The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is unacceptable.
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The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/
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“But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.
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Dispensationalist – just another Holy Spirit hater who bashes, bullies others who do not agree with them too
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Dispensationalists unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity
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NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. now there is no Biblical substantiation for Dispensationalists, Secret Rapture, Eternal security, Zionism, Messianic Jews. Yeshua too. Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation gives false hope to the Jews.. It is the anti Christ Yeshua who is coming for them,

Now what the Bible actually tells you:

  • The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
  • The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
  • The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
  • The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
  • Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
  • The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
  • There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
  • God promised that Christians would suffer
  • There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. – Matthew 24:29-31

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Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”

Matthew 24:30-31 “…then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

Christ declared that when He returns the second time, it is not a secret rapture, it would be with a sign; all people on the earth would see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and with power and great glory; the great majority of all the people of the earth would not be happy, but would mourn; there would be a great sound of a trumpet; and God would gather His obedient elect to Himself from every part of the world.

Did Jesus ask his Father to take us out of the world? Christ Himself prayed that His Father would not take His people “out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” John 17:15.

Critics of The Plymouth Brethren firstly object to their false teaching that you have to use their approved commentaries to study the Bible,with a very heavy, false emphasis on the original Greek and not the Holy Spirit as they are Cessationists falsely.

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Most dispensationalists still do take isolated verse and twist them to suit what they want others to believe still especially the false Dispensationalists http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

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Of the Scofield Reference Bible, John Wick Bowman says, “This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles” (Ibid., p.588).
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John H. Gerstner, in his 1991 book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, states emphatically and without mincing words:
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What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation….If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say that it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation (p.150).
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Ernest Reisinger states in his article, “A History of Dispensationalism in America”: All honest Dispensationalists would agree that the Dispensational system of theology has a different view of the grace of God, the law of God, the church of God, the interpretation of the Word of God and the salvation of God. That is, its teachings are different from tested, respected historic creeds and confessions …. Dispensationalism has a different view of living the Christian life of sanctification and, more specifically, how justification and sanctification are inseparably joined together in the application of God’s salvation (p.3)
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See also “The John Darby Versionn: Dispensationally Manipulated.” http://libertytothecaptives.net/darby_version_corrupt_methodically.html

 

 

Like John Darby, Scofield the adulterer, convicted fellon, had removed damned, damnation and hell from the Bible: http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_removed_damned.

 

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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal experience they still have never even had..
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Critics of The Plymouth Brethren have accused it of using cult techniques by controlling all aspects of its members’ lives The group’s influence over its members is such that many who have left the group have had trouble adjusting to life outside. To help with this problem, several websites have been set up to assist people that have left the church to adjust back into mainstream society

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They tend not to reveal openly, initially who they really are but camouflage it by saying they are Christians but this is not the true since most Christians do not agree with their too many false doctrines.

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They do contrary to the Bible falsely recommend one spouse to divorce the other one if they do not agree with their doctrines. Separation from Evil – God’s Principle of Unity. “ Hence the church is to put out from itself the wicked person, and thus maintains its separation from evil. But, alas! we know worldliness creeps in, and spiritual power declines; the taste for this blessing is enfeebled, because it is not enjoyed in the power of the Spirit; the spiritual fellowship with Christ the heavenly Head decays, and the power which banishes evil out of the church is no longer in living exercise… the evil must be separated from.“ Rev John Darby

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Members who leave or who are expelled from the group have often been treated with what outsiders may regard as undeniably great cruelty.

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DISPENSATIONAL THEOLOGY:

HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?

A HERETICAL TEACHING?.

ANOTHER GOSPEL?

DISCERNING TRUTH FROM DISPENSATIONAL ERROR.?

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“It is a fact that no Christian churches, congregations or fellowships existing prior to 1830 proclaimed a RAPTURE doctrine, and all accepted the Biblical truth that Christians would be on earth during the time of great tribulation. Before 1830, the single RAPTURE Scripture of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 were accepted as resurrection verses.

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The coming of the Lord and the Rapture will not occur until the Antichrist is revealed

Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together with Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed wither by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceived you, for it will not come unless the apostasy come first and the man of lawless ness is revealed… II Thessalonians 2:1-3

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The Rapture will occur at the Last Trumpet

Behold I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. II Corinthians 15:51-52

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The Mystery of God will be finished at the Seventh Trumpet, not before the Tribulation

“…In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound then the Mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.” Revelation 10:6-7

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The Mystery of God is Christ in the Church

The mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to the saints, to who God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory. Colossians 1:26-27

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Because every eye will see Him and the Rapture as well, the Church as a mystery to the world will be finished

When Christ who is our life is revealed, then you will also be revealed with Him in glory. Colossians 3:4

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Jesus will be revealed from heaven and give relief the the afflicted Church

…And give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His might angels in flaming fire. II Thessalonians 1:7

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Christ warns us about believing in a secret coming

For if they say to you, “Behold He is in the wilderness,” do not go out, or “Behold He is in the inner rooms,” do not believe them. Matthew 24:26

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He describes His return being as visible as lightning flashing across the entire sky

For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24:27“

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“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spoke unto you, saying, ‘let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them’; you shall not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord proves [tests] you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.” Deuteronomy 13:1–3

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The truth is, we will be protected from the evils of the Antichrist system (and the judgments of the Great Tribulation) by a mantle of safety from God that will protect us on earth. There is only one Second Advent of Christ and that is the moment (for all of us then living) we will be changed into immortality and the resurrection of the dead takes place. That is when all of us will meet Christ in the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18). We can believe this teaching with full assurance and faith. Remember, God cares for you and all the Body of Christ.” http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ess025.htm

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Their “END-TIME” CONFUSION ABOUNDS. But the Scripture tells us “God is not the author of confusion” (I Cor. 14:33). Yet when it comes to proper end-time direction, Dispensationalist churches almost universally exude mainly the spirit of confusion and contradictions.

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I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren, Baptists are liars also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, practice slanders, hate even the silent treatment to those who do not give them what they want.. or agree with them

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/dispensational-hoaxes-lies/

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THERE ARE THOSE MUCH TOO MANY WEIRD DISPENSATIONALIST FALSE TEACHINGS, LIES SUCH AS 1: ALL OF THE JEWS DO NOT HAVE TO GET SAVED. BUT YET THE APOSTLES HAD TO GET SAVED AND THEY PREACHED THE SALVATION MESSAGE TO ALL THE JEWS WORLD WIDE NEXT TOO.

Romans 10: 1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

DISPENSATIONALISTS

THEY ALSO PREACH THE LIES

  • THE JEWS HAVE TO RECLAIM ALL OF THE PROMISE LAND
  • THEY HAVE TO REBUILD THE JEWISH TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM,
  • THE JEWS HAVE TO KILL ALL OF THEIR ENEMIES AS WELL NOW.. YOU MEAN MURDER THEM IN COLD BLOOD.

YET THERE ARE NO SUCH VERSES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT STILL..

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Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of Jews Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too.

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The Jews had invaded, and changed even the evangelical Church Plymouth Brethren, Baptist to produce the false dispensational teachings, doctrines.

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There is no New Testament verse even indicating that the old Jerusalem will or has to be rebuild or it’s Jewish temple, or even now next one day Jerusalem will be the center of the world, or that the Jews were going to, or should return after the Romans kicked them out of the land of Israel in 70 ad. before Jesus Christ’s return.. this is only a Jewish Myth. Prove me wrong, show me the New testament Verses?
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Christians are not to be praying for a temple in Jerusalem anymore as..
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1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
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1 Corinthians 6: 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
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2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Jesus still had said Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
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Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
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Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
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THE CHRISTIANS CHURCH HAS EVEN REPLACED THE JEWISH ZIONISTS..
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Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
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Galatians 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
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Many people falsely quote no inapplicable old Testament verses and try to make them applicable today.. in particular to Israel. but Israel is no longer a Chosen people.. Our main attention is not on pray all Jews Go back to Israel, or rebuilding the city of Jerusalem or it’s obsolete temple but rather still praying all Jews become seabed.. and our main attention should ne now on helping all Christians firstly, even those in Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, India, Syria Egypt etc.,
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Salvation by the lordship of Jesus Christ now is needed for all unsaved persons, Jews, gentiles. It is not enough to merely accept that Jesus Christ is God as the devil believes that now also so what? he is still going to hell. Now the Messianic Jews believes in Jesus Christ the messiah, but so what they all will mostly God to hell cause they are unwilling to become real full Christians, unwilling to give up the Torah as well, to make Jesus Christ the sole Lord in their life, and not any Laws rather too.. .. so they too now are still counted rightfully as lost, unsaved person..
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Now as to the Jews, Arabs, None of them are politically correct. Thus says the Lord God of Israel: You shed blood, yet you would keep possession on the land? You rely on your sword, you do abominable things… yet you would keep possession of the land?… I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end. (Ezekiel 33:25-29) On the basis of such sober warnings is it not more likely that Israel will experience an imminent exile rather than restoration? The tension between Christians who call for the implementation of international law and Zionists is no where more clearly polarized than on the issue of the status of Jerusalem. Many true evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank. They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians. If all of the learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and admit that right was the same God who took them next away from that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together.
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WE ARE TO REBUKE ALL OF THOSE MURDEROUS JEWS EVEN
1 Corinthians 5”5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Mark 1:25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
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Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
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1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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Hell was meant for the devil and his angels but man chose to go there, because he has a free will, cause he does not serve God fully, because he has his own false religion , falsie beliefs he does not want to Gove up, too lazy to study the Bible firsthand, even cause he seeks the praises of mere men over God now too…” indicates they still most likely are not Christians.. the sad dispensationalists included now.

 

There are few Dispensationalist who do even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, many falsely as well do not accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.

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John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism in the English vernacular. He produced a false translation of the Bible based on the Hebrew and Greek texts called The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages by J. N. Darby.

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The Plymouth Brethren has next mainly split into Exclusive and Open Brethren in 1848 when George Müller refused John Nelson Darby‘s bias view of the relationship between local assemblies following difficulties in the Plymouth meeting. Brethren that held Muller’s congregational view became known as “Open”, those holding Darby’s ‘connexional‘ view, became known as “Exclusive” or “Darbyite” Brethren. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/exclusivebrethren

The Secret Rapture teaching was introduced into the United States and Canada between the 1840’s and 1870’s. A Congregationalist preacher by the name of C. I. Scofield came under the influence of Darby and the Plymouth Brethren. Scofield became a strong promoter of the teaching that had been promulgated by Darby, whom he considered “the most profound Bible student of modern times.” He incorporated this teaching into his SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. Three million copies were published in the first 50 years! Through this Bible Scofield shrewdly carried the false teaching of the Secret Rapture into the very heart of Evangelicalism. Jesus tells us “Beware of the scribes…” and in 1 Corinthians 1:19-20 “It is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?”

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Holy Bible Darby TranslationJohn Nelson Darby Version: Doctrinal Changes to the Holy Bible In view of John Darby’s departure from historic Christian beliefs, let us examine his bible http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_doctrinal_changes.html

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Dispensationalism: Occult Roots Do you really believe the Holy Spirit led J.N. Darby and other Brethren leadersto use Luciferian terms to refer to God and teach supposedly “recovered” biblical truths? http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_writings_occult.html

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John Darby’s Pre-Tribulation Rapture Alterations to the Bible John Nelson Darby inserted a message of imminence into many prophetic verses of scripture. http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_pretrib_immediacy.html

Religious people are always arguing about WHEN it will happen – PRE – MID – POST tribulation. Believing NO RAPTURE solves all those arguments. Some people prefer NOT to call it THE RAPTURE, but have other names for it. You hear people quoting Scripture when they say COME QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. They are looking for an ESCAPE from the things of this world. When things REALLY get bad, and there is NO RAPTURE, many will turn their back on Jesus because they were not RESCUED. When this happens, they cancel their ticket to Heaven. This is exactly what the devil wanted, when he started the teaching of THE RAPTURE. The false teachings of Rapture, Zionism, Eternal security, were also brought in by the The Plymouth Brethren IS THERE REALLY TO BE A RAPTURE The origin of Rapture False doctrine: John Darby 1830 AD.

http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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The reality is that because of the death of Jesus Christ on the cross the New Covenant next replaces the Mosaic Covenant, which is commonly referred to as the “Old Covenant”. All of the early Christian theologians saw the New Covenant in Christ as a replacement for the Mosaic Covenant for most of the last hundreds of years.
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(Matthew 21:33-45), addressed Israel, the Jews of that time, “the chief priests and the Pharisees”, “‘When therefore the lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those farmers?’ They told him, ‘He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will lease out the vineyard to other farmers, who will give him the fruit in its season.”
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Romans 2:28-29: “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.”
Romans 3:29-31: “Or is God the God of Jews only? Isn’t he the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith, and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then nullify the law through faith? May it never be! No, we establish the law.”
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Romans 9:6-8: “But it is not as though the word of God has come to nothing. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel. Neither, because they are Abraham’s seed, are they all children. But, ‘In Isaac will your seed be called.’ That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.”
Romans 10:12-13: “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on him. For, ‘Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Galatians 3:29: “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to promise.”
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Ephesians 2:11-22, especially Ephesians 2:14: “For he [Jesus] is our peace, who made both [Jews and Gentiles] one, and broke down the middle wall of partition .
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Only Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6) and that there is no other salvation but through him. The saints are described in Revelation as those who “hold to the testimony of Jesus.” ((Rev 12:17 KJV)
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The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see God’s whole truths. Mind you and do note how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses, and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..

I was VERY MUCH surprised how crooked many of the Evangelical pastors, elders, churches are and the Catholic ones too. I have to admit it all came to me as a shock firstly when I started to attend Evangelical, Baptist, Brethren, Mennonite, Pentecostal
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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even.. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.” where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.” Which most often is the case.
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I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism, tithing etc.

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Now had most fundamentals evangelicals actually read their Bibles, known the Bible instead of wrongfully listening to the so called Bible teachers, false preachers, bad teachers they would not have easily deceived to neglect the present full empowerment available of all believers by the Holy Spirit…

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We even today have loads of false Messianic Jews and others like the “Plymouth Brethren”, Evangelical Dispensationalists, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses. Mormons. now also are.. trying to corrupt the Church. with False information, More futuristic prophecies and information, an the anti Holy Spirit Movement, Zionism, Eternal security too, even the coming rapture of the church which could never be found in the New Testament, Past Christianity is still being brought to you by the Devil..

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All of the Biblical Scriptures are clear and understandable and profitable for all things pertaining to life and godliness if one gets the right interpretation from the Holy Spirit and not mere men as rather too often is still the case.

https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/the-major-biblical-problem-with-dispensationalism/

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Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible’s as well
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see also
https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/
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The Plymouth Brethren
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Dispensationism, Cessationism, Zionism and the Bible
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http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/dispensationalists-plymouth-brethren/

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http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/
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http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/tonce-gods-chosen-people

Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections « Posted at wordpress.com

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren « Posted at wordpress.com

Clearly the Zionists are still immoral and Unbiblical | Hot discussions

Oppressors or Bullies are always unacceptable « Posted at wordpress.com

Jews, Israel, Arabs and Jesus Christ, the Bible « 2nd Wittness Weblog

The fall of Jerusalem « 1st Wittness

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/what-happened-to-the-promised-land/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/clearly-the-zionists-are-still-immoral-and-unbiblical/

http://antipreterist.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/why-im-not-a-dispensationalist//

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/you-are-a-messianc-jew/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/so-why-do-some-pople-falsely-push-the-rapture/

 

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

September 17, 2013

What part about Free speech do you not understand?

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 7:33 pm
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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too.
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1 Timothy 5
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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2 Timothy 4
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Titus 1
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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Titus 2
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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Revelation 3
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Proverbs 27
5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Even in the Christian circles we find many ostriches who cannot handle negative statements,
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html
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Jesus told us to preach solely the good news IS NOT TRUE, HE TOLD US TO PREACH THE FULL GOSPEL, THE GOOD AND BAD NEWS, THE BAD NEWS INCLUDES STILL THE REALITY MOST PEOPLE WILL GO TO HELL. THE PROPHETS OFTEN PREACHED MOSTLY THE BAD NEWS.. One’s need to repent
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Do you yourself know when you are to be submissive to others and when you are to lead? How do you know this? Can you tell the difference between the voice of God and that of the devil now too? Most People still cannot.. sad.
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There is a very dangerous person that  we should be aware of, and even not associate with,   one who is also mainly  the devil’s follower, one  that is the self centered, sarcastic,  withdrawn silhouette control freak.
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 John 3:19 And this is the basis for judgment: The light (Jesus Christ) has come into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light because their actions were evil.  
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 Jeremiah 9:6 states: You live in the midst of deception; in their deceit they refuse to acknowledge me,” declares the LORD.
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(Prov 16:25 KJV)  There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
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(Mat 23:33 KJV)  Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
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(Micah 2:8 KJV) Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.
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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the really bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as  to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.
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Let me tell you we do not have to accept human rights abuse that is a lie of the devil.. in this world we have the same rights as the bully even the right to see that a bully is punished for abusing us.. God is not ignorant about the injustices inflicted upon his people, nor does he accept any of our human rights abuses without punishing the abusers shortly.. see the Bible book of Esther if you have doubts..
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Est 9:25 But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the really bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as  to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.
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 Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the really bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as a to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.
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I was really now fortunate I had great teachers here in Canada, in my public school, in high School and in University in Montreal Quebec, and all of them now   had treated me as a real person, respected me, and allowed me to speak. and to be heard as well.  Not one of them no one told me what I can talk about write about or what I cannot as well. At work as a Professional Engineer, or as a Professional Realtor with Re/Max I was allowed continually as a responsible, a mature adult to make my own decisions,  and top also carry out my responsibilities in the manner   I chose to do them as well.  So I have to admit it came to me as a shock firstly when I started to attend evangelical, Baptist Pentecostal churches in Canada now as an adult that that same right  to be respect, top speak, and to be heard, not to be bullied, falsely oppressed. Legal and Human rights that  I had before, often now did not exist in the churches surprisingly now of all places. Never saw so many control freaks, human rights abusers  in my whole life next to the too often bad cops now too.  And perversely many a despotic, crooked elder, pastor, imposter Christian  had wrongfully tried to shut me up, and even next had resorted next to slander me, to try to discredit me and what I had said,  or whatever,   showing how pathetic they rather were.. Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc., Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.  But like I have often said elsewhere the Evangelical church was not the only place where they tried to deny me my right to speak and to be heard now, for too often too and unacceptable the Alberta bullies, rednecks now  on the net had wrongfully tried often and falsely to suppress my right of free speech, but next so did not too many a Politician, particularly,  ironically again both the professing Christian ones, and the definitely alcoholic ones now too.. what they were falsely deluded that only politicians and the crooks  had the right of free speech and the right to be heard it seems too .
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The Hallmark of a democratic society is unregulated press and the right of free speech of all citizens, without being bullied , lied about, slandered but unfortunately this is not always the case as we can clearly see here too.. These control minded Sickness, Illness can likely rightfully often be associated with the person’s own past actual bad acts, unresolved moral guilt in their own contemporary minds and their subsequent behavior now seen as related punishment for their own past, unconfessed, unrepented of moral wrongdoings that can, does come forth and so such association of cause and effect can really still exists for them as well . You may also seriously want to look more into why some people personally tend to have a large, a false amount of guilt, phobias, unresolved genuine fears too. Phobia. [Gr. phobos, fear.] any persistent, irrational, and excessive fear of some particular thing or situation. (Webster’s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, 1983 Many People who have struggled with phobias understand how immune such phobias where even the irrational fears continue to plague the victim. Many “People with low self-esteem experience a high degree of insecurity and jeopardy. They do not feel safe most of the time. One defense is to become a perfectionist. After all if you do something perfectly, you are beyond criticism and no one can hurt you. Perfectionism is an attempt to create perfect safety (which is, needless to say, unattainable). The other safety attempt is to become a control freak and try to control everything. If we can control everything, nothing will ever jump up and surprise or hurt us. People with low self-esteem tend to live in a closed system that is hard to break. Because they have difficulty admitting negatives, either about themselves or their behavior, it is hard to reach them. It is especially difficult for someone with low self-esteem who is defensive or in denial to admit that they are afraid. As a result, it is difficult, occasionally impossible, to reassure them that it is okay to be afraid or to be in pain. Their major fear is that it is all their fault. That’s a lie. It is not all their fault, but it’s a lie that’s hard to surrender.” People who are doing wrong, doing their own thing without God rightfully still do need to feel guilty about they wrongs they are doing too. Believe it or not if you continually cheat, lie, steal, commit adultery, tell lies, do bad things, etc you will subconsciously even feel bad about yourself and have a very low self esteem too and often falsely try to compensate the void by the false counterfeits still of power, control, more lusts, money etc., to no permanent avail too
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Verbal abuse is a kind of battering which doesn’t leave evidence like physical abuse does. The following are some of the forms of verbal abuse you may recognize.
1.Withholding: a purposeful, silent treatment.
2.Countering: a countering of your ideas, feelings, and perceptions, even going so far as to refute what he misconstrues you to have said.
3.Discounting–a putdown of you or something you hold dear.
4.Blocking and diverting–this is a sneaky, covert way of violating your dignity.
5.Accusation and blame: generally involves lies about the partner’s intentions, attitudes, and motives. The author states that accusation and blame is present in all verbally abusive relationships.
6.Judging and criticizing: lies about your personal qualities and performance.
7.Trivializing and undermining: abusive behavior which makes light of your work, your efforts, your interests, or your concerns. The abuser attempts to dilute meaning and value in your life. Undermining might occur when your partner laughs at you, for example, when you burn yourself cooking. It is also jokes at your expense. Undermining is occurring when you feel a “so-called joke” is mean rather than funny.
8.Name calling: no one has a right to call you degrading names. Name calling is verbal abuse.
9.Ordering: Telling you to do something, rather than asking, or making decisions for you or for the two of you without your input.
10.Forgetting and denial: the trickiest form of denial is forgetting. Become aware that forgetting is a form of denial that shifts all responsibility from the abuser to some “weakness of mind.”
11.Abusive anger: this seems to be closely linked to the need to “blow up,” to dominate, to control, to go one up, and to put down. Any time you are snapped at or yelled at, you are being abused.
12.Threatening: Physical threats and sexual threats aside, verbal threats are an effort at manipulation. For example, a threat to leave, stay out all night, or take you home immediately is a manipulation for power. The threat of “pending disaster” is designed to shatter the partner’s serenity as well as her boundaries.
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If you counter the abuser or attempt to explain yourself, you will probably be met with such statements as, “I don’t want to hear it, get out of my face” or “you don’t have the brains“, “B” You shouldn’t have said that to me“. Just merely still another control freak..
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The People who are stupid to justify their denominational views, the false teaching of mere men, are Bible ignorant, Holy Spirit haters…. because all I wrote was Biblical.. but the opposing bullies and bashers are demonic.. the same Pharisees called Jesus a False teacher.. More about these Pharisiacal Control freaks,, Face it one now being any kind of a Control freak is a big, bad unacceptable disease.. and it must be treated as such.. These type of Control freaks do often have a terrible personal, social life too and they do often make all life terrible for those they live with, marry, work with, come in contact with. these people who manifest Psychological Disorders or Abnormal Behavior, showing a personal behavior that is either deviant, maladaptive, or personally distressful. All Meaning they likely need real, valid professional help. Includes now also their having an “abnormal thought processes”. It is like the line from Simon and Garfunkels’ song, The Boxer: where ” a man hears what he wants to hear . And disregards the rest.” Too often the Control freaks are very likely even very close to you people who are too often personally afraid and are desperately now trying to manipulate others and their environments to minimize their own fears, all now mostly done likely still out of reality, motivated by often their false fears now too. They are the often Fear-driven persons who question and complain to all others unless every task is done by others as they want it too be done, practical or not, to the full satisfaction of their own selfish needs, desires which much always come first. Do they feel guilty living such a clearly selfish, self centered life.. now, not openly and explains why they tend to behave so crazy like too. Covering up for them, falsely denying who they are is also still an act of the other crazy people now too. These bad control freaks their sad present development it now has too often been a long time in the making now, for they did not arrive to this disturbed state of mind likely even over night. Their clear need to control others is almost always still mostly fueled by their self centered kingdom, yes their ongoing selfishness, self centeredness, anxiety, not just their personal fears, and imaginary ones mostly too, Such as those very suspicious persons openly questioning my motives for taking pictures of flowers. I now have learned to take time to smell the roses and to enjoy them. They sadly now have not.. Yes the control freaks wrongfully seldom recognize any of their negative behaviors, acts so never mind next openly even now admitting their own motivation fears. Which leads to the question can there be next hope for them.. unlikely… Unresolved Personal guilt, Fear, anxiety can lead next to some people with their still ‘liveable’ responses but with others it may leads them to a deeply disabled, disturbed responses, even to a long lasting, permanently disturbed mind and life. Excessive anxiety and fear are yes common factors in some common personal emotional and physical illnesses causing extreme self-focus and apprehension. Their own lives, views, expressions, words are also characterized by them too often falsely listening to other’s lies, gossip, slanders, exaggerations, distortions of reality too. Clearly they the control freaks are some of the People who have lost the fundamental grasp of truths and reality it seems. They are Sick, sick persons who have turned inward, defending themselves from their anxiety and usually hiding from real life in general.So instead of embracing all activities as a challenge where unexpected, difficult things are anticipated with pleasure and the person is open to new experience, rather now many activities are solely come to be seen as a potential threat and are looked at with suspicion and fearful anticipation; and a happy life for them falsely begins to close down. Best Solution -Disregard simply their demands always and do not give into them, for it will wrongfully reinforce that they were right about their too often still unfounded fears rather too.. And most people do now try hard to avoid the Control freaks, by desperately trying to have nothing to do with them in case these supposedly crazies next might really go berserk and do something stupid, violent, embarrassing next.. for this fear motivation that the control freaks they tend to have is not at all healthy or normal. Do readily now Tell them to get help, and the sooner the better, to deal with their much too many fears due often to their personal unresolved guilt, and/or fears of negative resulting possible consequences, or the fear of dying, getting hurt, being fired, mugged, becoming poor, or whatever..
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Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.
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So I got lied about, slandered, abused, put down.. I’m so sorry this has happened! as I  certainly don’t deserve that.. It is unacceptably sad, stupid and realyl unacceptable that anyone would do that to anyone, you included..  .
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but what else should we expect from the devil? and his followers.. we still do ask these demonic lead persons to repent and demand they be exposed, prosecuted as well.. Now exemplary public exposure and prosecution of such unrepentant guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest.. I do…  Christ told us this would happen, that they would lie about us and make false claims against us. But still I do not cover up their hate crimes nor excuse it.. note the people who killed Jesus, the Romans next came and burned the temple and scattered them world wide..
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(Mat 23:33 KJV) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell
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Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him;
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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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(Jude 1:4 KJV) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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(1 John 2:9 KJV) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
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(1 John 2:11 KJV) But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
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(1 John 3:15 KJV) Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
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(1 John 4:20 KJV) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
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(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
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(1 Cor 9:27 KJV) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
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When most a person tries to enforce any rule upon me I immediate rightfully do next often do ask them who they think they are that they think I now have to respect the  man made rules firstly? What makes them think I have to be now their false slave too? And why do they think I am their false slave and that they are any kind of boss over me in these matters?
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“The ONLY way you can get to heaven is by being born again!!! THAT’S what Jesus told Nicodemus! prior to Pentecost and being Born again means also being Baptized with the Holy Spirit too after the day of Pentecost, as Jesus himself also had commanded… and everyone who was baptized with the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts showed it by speaking in toungues.. otherwise you truly are not Born again if you do not speak in toungues.. like it or not, believe it or not.. that was the New Testament pattern.. so do you speak in toungues, or why not?
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see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/oppressors-or-bullies-are-always-unacceptable
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/nt-wicked-persons
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers
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July 10, 2013

A shepherd, or a Hireling, thief?

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 10:24 pm
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MOST PEOPLE ARE GULLIBLE,IN FACT SOME SAY THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE ,
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Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the end of the world and the Battle of Armageddon as  You know, are  for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  societal oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it.
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The Basic problem also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still..
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ISN’T THE LOVE OF MONEY, THE FILTHY GREED FOR IT EVIDENT OF THESE SO CALLED PREACHERS, OR HIRELINGS WHO PROMOTE GOD’S SUPPOSED TRUTHS FOR MONEY?
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 Now don’t you think that something spiritually important as this, so essential as this, would be available freely to all rather.
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 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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Not just the Book of Daniel, but the Book of Revelation itself is now also Considered by many one  the strangest book in the Bible.  Not many people can say they they really understand it too, but for 2000 years, this book also  has been wildly popular. Why would anyone still bother with the books  book that many love to hate,  Many people also hate the Torah and Jesus’ revision of the Torah, Well the reality is that if you are a Non Christian believer, and without the Holy Spirit, you really cannot understand this book, especially in the light of the fact that one often is are reading other people’s mail, as this book was, is specially written for the born form above Christians.  First thing I too had discovered is that controversy is nothing new if the devil can help it.. He the devil really does likes tearing the truths into shreds, distorts it, so that alone should not discourage you from reading these books 
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Now  many of the most well-known undeniable New Testament prophecies about Jesus Christ himself were foreshadowed by the Old Testament prophets centuries before the birth of Christ and these require no serious reinterpretations.. including his death on a cross and his stated  beforehand resurrection  next from the dead..
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But it is those other supposed Future prophecies about the end time anti  Christ, about the Fallen Babylon, the New world Order, the supposed Restoring the nation of Israel, the supposed Rebuilding of the Jewish  temple, the Battle of Armageddon that are very doubtfully  being presented, misrepresented even   and why?
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IN REALITY ALL DOCTRINES HAVE TO BE STUDIED BY THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT . YOU HAVE TO TAKE EVERY WORD YOU HEAR AND SUBJECT IT TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE BIBLE.. MOST TEACHINGS AND PREACHING’S TODAY DO CONTAIN MAJOR FALSEHOODS THAT DO NOT LINE UP WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT;
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2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;  Titus 2:13:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,  James 5:7-9:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain.  1 Peter 5:4:4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. 1 John 2:28-3:2: 28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. Jude 1:21:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Revelation 2:25:25 But hold fast what you have till I come.
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The prophecies, about  the rise of the Antichrist and the Battle of Armageddon, were first recorded by the prophet Daniel in the sixth century B.C. where  Daniel wrote his God given prophecies during the 70 years that the people of Israel were held captive in the land of Babylon.
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Daniel himself had served as part of the royal court of King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned in Babylon from 605 – 562 B.C. The prophecies came in the form of dreams, both the king’s dreams and Daniel’s dreams. For most of the details, Daniel was personally now given the interpretation, but not all. Note that. Now the full  details about the future Antichrist, and the nations involved too, even the exact times, is not given to us by God, or in the Bible rather these days too there exist today rather  a lot of misinformation, misinterpretations, lies even.. and if God wanted us to know all the details he would have already now mentioned them specifically in the Bible. The Bible does not go into much detail about the end times because we are rather to concentrate on pour present relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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 Even Daniel himself was not given now  all the details..  Dan 30:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased…. 9  Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
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And yet many  future prophecy liars still do dare to speak to us all about  supposed future truths that God has not even revealed  to anyone yet  here too..
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Malachi 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ sope:
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Why is it so many people claim that Jesus is coming soon when no one can know the exact time even. yet. Jesus is coming back soon, even maybe today.. and already he has been coming back for 2000 years, and yes he will come back.. but why are so many wanting him to come back now, immediately? wanting to go to Heaven even? and why is it that so many of the people who claim they want to go to Heaven now , and they say they want Jesus to come back for them when clearly still, many of them  are still unwilling to Serve God here on earth firstly,  even when they are unwilling to live with Jesus  now here on earth.
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Escapism?  Deliverance or Running away? Jonah ran away from God…  Being saved is not about immediately going to Heaven, but serving Jesus firstly here on earth.. Are you even doing everything you can to serve Jesus Christ here now firstly before you go to heaven next? or are you so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly Good?
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Revelation 3: 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Revelation 21: 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and not by the Holy Spirit so they clearly here will fail at it still too. I also know some people have their minds falsely made up  about a lot of things based even on the false teaching of their denomination and it would be a great shock to their system to admit it may be wrong.. 
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Please be like the Bereans of old who “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11) with prayer and true help of the Holy Spirit.
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and while you are waiting for Jesus to come are you  serving Him now?
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2 Thessalonians 2:1.  1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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Notice that above passage states that the man of sin is to be revealed BEFORE Jesus comes and that Paul is warning Christians not to be deceived by others who teach otherwise.
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I Cor. 13:9 Paul said, “… we prophesy in part.” There are two reasons for this. One is expressed in Prov. 4:18, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” In other words, the revelation of truth is progressive and needs to be checked out, confirmed  by the Holy Spirit, the Bile, even others..
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Just because we have the Bible doesn’t mean we have all the truth at our disposal. The truth contained in the written word must be “opened” or revealed by Christ if we are to understand it and benefit. All the study in the world will not take the place of Christ opening the book and ministering living anointed truth suited to the time and need.
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Daniel, as great a man of God and yet  he was, was still even  told to shut up the words and seal the book till the time of the end. Daniel 12:4. The end times was the begging of Christ Ministry on earth and the the related New Testament development  and it’s Pentecost.. As only Christ has the authority to “open the book” (Rev. 5:1-5)

July 6, 2013

Who are the Abrahams’s seed?

Filed under: Christianity, General — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 5:43 am

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What is recorded in the seventeenth chapter of the book of Revelation—John’s description of the Whore of Babylon.

The Apostle John saw many terrible things that day on Patmos, the Greek isle to which he had been banished. But perhaps few could compare with this, his vision of the alluring and tantalizing, yet deadly “Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.” Who can imagine what breathtaking thoughts raced through John’s mind? We do get a glimpse into the Apostle’s thought process when we read his words:

“And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” (Revelation 17:6)   If there ever was a conspiracy against nations and people of earth this is its highest ensign. The Mother of Harlots, sitting upon a beast, is wealthy beyond compare—she is “decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,” and she holds a “golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filth of her fornication.” The mysterious woman, regally arrayed in purple and scarlet color, is drunk, but not from alcohol and strong drink; the Mother of Harlots is drunken “with the blood of the saints and the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.” No black widow could compare with this sinister and evil woman. This is no lady. This is a stone-cold serial killer who feasts on the blood of the saints of Jesus and no doubt leaves the world littered with the remains of destroyed souls. Earthly Jews have been doing this the last 200 years even.  I refer, of course, to the Synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9).  The Zionists.. “

When the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion were first discovered, Freemasons and Zionist Jews everywhere screamed and complained that these 24 Protocols are a hoax, a forgery, even a blood taint against the Jews. But then came the brutal and barbaric Communist Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and its captive republics, led by covert Masonic Jews—Lenin, Trotsky, Kaganovich, and others. The cruel and sinister crimes of the crypto-Jew revolutionaries seemed to have jumped off the pages of the Protocols. The Red Terror, with its torturous massacres of innocent people, its monstrous gulag concentration camps, and the setting up of a Jewish dictatorship, also followed the agenda of the Protocols as did the persecution everywhere of Christians and churches. The entire world witnessed horrors that were a direct result of the heinous prescriptions laid out earlier in the Protocols. Find out how the Protocols are still being worked in our day and how our freedoms, even our very lives, are in jeopardy.  ”   

  In our generation, the monolithic power of World Jewry, Zionist  has galloped to the forefront. With its vaults of banks bulging with stolen cash, its balance sheet hefty with plundered wealth, its Israeli nation aided and abetted by the military muscle and diplomatic might of the world’s greatest superpower, the Jewish-ruled United States of America, the Synagogue of Satan today sits at the pinnacle of earthly dominion.

The Zionist elite have a heinous Plan that is now being worked to usher in the Jewish Utopia. Their Messiah, the Antichrist, will be at its helm. And once this Plan is realized, Gentiles everywhere will tremble with fear and trepidation. Make no mistake about that. 

Are even the Americans and the Zionist elite working together in the most horrific conspiracy against both God and Man? Yes.. The Jewish Connection to the USA can no longer be disputed. The monstrous tentacles of this global beast now grip the White House and the capitals of Europe. Meanwhile the American Judeo/CHristianity is using their  power to try to supress the sale foriegn  oil., the big source of the wealth..

Who are Abrahams’s seed? Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

What did Jesus have to say about the Jews of His day? Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.  8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

 John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

 John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

 John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

What does Paul say about who Israel really is? Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:  2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: (true Israel are those who are born of the Spirit, as Paul explains in Gal 4:21-31)

Is a non-Christian Jew still one of God’s people?  Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

 2nd John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Does God hold a preference on DNA or blood?  Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:  11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

 Heb 8:9 [Their fathers, led out of Egypt] continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

 Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:  10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Does God even see a difference in the flesh?  Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

 Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference

 Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

 Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

What about all that temple stuff?  1Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?  3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

 1Cor 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

 2Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet

 Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands

 Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building

 Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.

What does the Old Testament say about this stuff?  Jer 9:26 Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.

 1Kings 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:  9:7 Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people.

 Josh 24:20 If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that He hath done you good.

 1Ch 28:9 …if thou seek Him, He will be found of thee; but if thou forsake Him, He will cast thee off for ever.

 2Ch 7:19 But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them  2Ch 7:20 Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.

 2Ch 15:2 …The LORD is with you, while ye be with Him; and if ye seek Him, He will be found of you; but if ye forsake Him, He will forsake you.

And lastly….  Hosea 2:23 And I will sow her unto Me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not My People, Thou art My People; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

 1Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:  2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but have obtained mercy.

But wait! What about sacred relics, like all the holy golden cherubim, and altars, and menorrahs…Doesn’t it matter? Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.  17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent:  17:31 Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained;(JESUS) whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.

That last group of verses is an absolute 100 megaton explosion to the argument about sacred objects, ‘godly’ graven images of the temple, relics of the OT, and the such implications that these things matter now, or ever really did. God passed it by due to the peoples ignorance, and most likely influences of false religions after leaving Egypt. God never seemed to care about gold, jewels, polished silver, fine brass, or the fabric of holy robes prior to Moses leading Israel out of Egypt, yet from this point on, it seemed to matter a great deal. These verses just explained it all away, and that’s why we as Christians are not instructed to carry on with these things.

It’s obvious from the first verse of the first chapter of 1st Peter, that Peter was talking to gentiles, (of the flesh) that they were now brought into being the true nation of Israel, (the one of the Spirit) and that Hosea had been fulfilled. Those who were not God’s people, now are His people.     To prove to Jews and anti-Christian Judaizers that Judaism is not the way, I point out these important facts about the scriptures and history…

1. In the OT God blessed Israel when they were righteous. They prospered, they conquered and ruled, and not a single enemy could lay a hand on them. If needed, God Himself would destroy Israel’s enemies. God also punished Israel severely when they were wicked, and became corrupt. This happens many ways and many times in their history, especially through the book of Judges.  2. Israel completely fell prey to being overthrown as a sovereign nation and became occupied territory by the Roman government in the 400 year gap between the OT and the NT. This fact alone should alarm any person of the Jewish faith, because according to the OT, such a travesty should never have occurred to a ‘righteous’ and ‘holy’ nation.  3. Within one generation after the crucifixion of Jesus, as He prophecied, the temple was completely destroyed, ransacked, ravaged, and obliterated in 70 ad. The holy sacred temple was dashed to pieces and blown to the wind. If God cared so much about temples and sacrifices, He surely would have prevented that. Shortly thereafter, Israel was scattered among the nations and wandered for centuries without having a land of their own. Basically a 2,000 year punishment. Something must have gone terribly wrong.

Without even needing to go into the atrocities of the holocaust, how on earth could God have allowed this to happen, if truly Israel had done nothing wrong?  Going by scriptural history, the only logical answer is that Israel must have descended into wickedness like never before. Punishment very similar to this has happened previously, in Lamentations 2:5-7, though never for this long.

This is where Christianity comes to the rescue and explains what happened to Israel, how they became heathen, and eventually rejected their own messiah and the true ways of God (Matt 8:11-12, Matt 12:7, Matt 5:21-46, Matt 21:43, John 8:47, John 1:18, Act 2:36, Rom 11:20, Col 1:15, etc. etc. see also  Judaizers,  Sacrifices, and  OT violence for more info). As a result of their wickedness, God made good on His word and proved He did not make idle warnings to Israel (1Kings 9:6-7, Josh 24:20, 1Ch 28:9, 2Ch 7:19-20, 2Ch 15:2). Every Christian needs to know this and address these issues to evangelize to the Jews, it’s that easy.

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/loveoneanothe//holyracism.html

June 11, 2013

For by fire and by His sword

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 12:45 pm
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(Jer 9:23 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: 24  But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD. 25  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;

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Let’s be clear,  false Pride in Self still does cause many people to do wrong, sinful things, even professing Christian persons .. and it even makes them wrongfully think they are doing God’s will, serving God but in reality they are serving the devil.

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(Jer 12:6 KJV)  For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.

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Sadly there is a lot of  religious confusion these days even by those who now are deluded into thinking they have a direct line to the King Jesus and don’t even need The Holy Spirit to help them know, understand the truth still. . They gather such information as is available from books and personal contacts and experiences and throw it into a pot with their own ideas and desires and cook up their own private brand of religion and even falsely still do want to call it Christianity too..  They falsely draw up their own spiritual laws  in accordance with what they falsely still do believe are the King’s own instructions and desires. It is rather their deluded souls, carnal flesh, and the devil speaking through them. as in reality our world is filled with wicked spirits whose job it is to impersonate the King, present a false Jesus  and delude souls who do not from their hearts desire to submit to the authority of the King and do things His way.

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 I Cor. 13:9 Paul said, “… we prophesy in part.” There are two reasons for this. One is expressed in Prov. 4:18, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” In other words, the revelation of truth is progressive and needs to be checked out, confirmed  by the Holy Spirit, the Bile, even others..

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Just because we have the Bible doesn’t mean we have all the truth at our disposal. The truth contained in the written word must be “opened” or revealed by Christ if we are to understand it and benefit. All the study in the world will not take the place of Christ opening the book and ministering living anointed truth suited to the time and need.

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Daniel, as great a man of God and yet  he was, was still even  told to shut up the words and seal the book till the time of the end. Daniel 12:4. The end times was the begging of Christ Ministry on earth and the the related New Testament development  and it’s Pentecost.. As only Christ has the authority to “open the book” (Rev. 5:1-5)

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(Phil 3:7 KJV)  But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8   Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9   And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10   That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

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Why is it that so many persons who preach it to others do not practice it firstly themselves?  Personal repentance included? So why is it they cannot change themselves? They are evidently are unwilling to do so. I  too have also often wondered why so many Christians, even pastors  that I have met do not continue with the Lord, and they clearly also do not love other persons.. for  sadly too many even professing Christians have still even now made their the acquisition, pursuit of money, the false love for all of the things that money can buy,  as their false idol, and one of their false goal in life, and as a result they now personally  do not really have love for God, love for his people or love for others… and this is still really unacceptable to God.
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(1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Do you really think there is such a thing as a little bit pregnant, a little bit sin being allowed now especially for pastors? when you see even  their sins of abuses of others you clearly are still just seeing  the tip of the iceberg. It is an indication of idols in their own life that they are unwilling to give up.
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(Rom 12:1 KJV)  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3   For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
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(Isa 1:13 KJV)  Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 14  Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 15  And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16  Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17  Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18  Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
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(Psa 119:69 KJV)  The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.
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(James 4:1 KJV)  From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?2  Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3  Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. 4   Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5   Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
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(Micah 7:6 KJV)  For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house. 7   Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me. 8  Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me.9  I will bear the indignation of the LORD, because I have sinned against him, until he plead my cause, and execute judgment for me: he will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold his righteousness.10  Then she that is mine enemy shall see it, and shame shall cover her which said unto me, Where is the LORD thy God? mine eyes shall behold her: now shall she be trodden down as the mire of the streets. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. 42  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
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(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
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(Prov 29:23 KJV)  A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
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(Isa 66:1 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
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(Isa 66:4 KJV)  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
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(John 16:2 KJV)  They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3   And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
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(Mat 10:22 KJV)  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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(Mat 24:9 KJV)  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
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(Mat 26:31 KJV)  Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
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(Mat 10:17 KJV)  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
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(Mark 13:9 KJV)  But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
(Mark 13:13 KJV)  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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(John 3:20 KJV)  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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(John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
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(John 15:20 KJV)  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.21  But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. 23  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
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(1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10   He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
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(1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21  And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
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(Isa 66:5 KJV)  Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
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(Isa 66:6 KJV)  A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompense to his enemies.
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(Isa 66:14 KJV)  And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.
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(Isa 66:15 KJV)  For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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(Isa 66:16 KJV)  For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
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(Rom 3:12 KJV)  They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.13   Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14  Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15  Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16  Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17  And the way of peace have they not known: 18  There is no fear of God before their eyes.
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(Isa 10:1 KJV)  Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed; 2  To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless! 3   And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory? 4  Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
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(Jer 5:10 KJV)  Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD’S. 11 For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD. 12  They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: 13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
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(Isa 66:17 KJV)  They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
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(Ezek 23:29 KJV)  And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms. 30  I will do these things unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idols.
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(Zep 3:11 KJV)  In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD. 13  The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
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(Isa 66:24 KJV)  And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
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(Prov 25:4 KJV)  Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer.
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(Prov 25:5 KJV)  Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.
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(Amos 5:10 KJV)  They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
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Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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I remember once telling God how some professing Christians, people tried to physically kill me, and God replied.. but I did not let that happen, I spared your life, I protected you.. anyway you did not shed any blood.. (Heb 12:4 KJV)  Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 
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June 7, 2013

Baptized with the Holy Spirit and even filled with the Holy Spirit yet?

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 5:49 pm
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I have been a Christian for about 50 years and I too have learned that you can not choose just the parts of the Bible, the New Testament included that you like and neglect the rest as next you will walk in darkness, led  to do so even by the Holy Spirit.
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Being filled  and also being Baptized with the Holy Spirit in the  New Testament both are not   a gradual process of the professing Christian believer solely yielding to the Holy Spirit, merely having more of the fruit of the Holy Spirit,  so that the Holy Spirit has more of the believer rather it is undeniably and clearly in the New testament an instantaneous, immediate filling and Baptism of the Holy Spirit experience. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually   after the person is saved. While “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.” We Christians have certainly not all have been empowered by the Holy Spirit yet. There are those who are “nominal ” Christians and there those who are “experienced  ” Christians ,those who have been baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit  firstly, not even many preachers.
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The  baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing now too, the promised land, the prosperity gospel have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, especially in the extreme fundamental religious circles and now all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.   They do not have God’s understanding of the subject cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His 
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The testimony of John the Baptist shows us that when the Lord Jesus baptizes anyone after their Salvation  with the Holy Spirit, it also next takes place at a moment in time. This was what happened even on the day of Pentecost.

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Acts 2:2-4 2 And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.

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It was not a gradual process; it was not a question of yielding to the Holy Spirit already dwelling within them. It was the Holy Spirit coming upon them and filling them. This becomes clearer as we look at other passages in the Book of Acts that describe how believers were filled with the Holy Spirit. For example, when Peter preached to Cornelius and those who were with him, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message and they received the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:44-45).

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Peter recounted this event in Acts 11:15-16:

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Acts 11:15-16 15 “And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.” 16 “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’

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Peter explained that what took place was the baptism with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit fell upon them and they spoke in tongues instantaneously now as well.

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We can see this also in Acts 8:15-17. In verse 15, the apostles prayed for the Samaritan believers that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Then we read in verses 16 and 17:

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Acts 8:16-17 16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the Holy Spirit.

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These persons they  were already believers, they already have had the Holy Spirit within them, but the Holy Spirit was now coming upon them to empower them.  

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Or are you one who still falsely tries to explain away these New Testament Bible truths? and really why is that now?

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While in the old Testament  isolated occurrences involved people whom the Lord specially called and empowered  by the Holy Spurt for specific roles and responsibilities But in in the  New Testament God is willing to empower all Christians who have received the lord Jesus Christ as their savior to all have the Holy Sprit’s empowerment.  I can see why some of the preacher differentiates the baptism with the Holy Spirit from being filled with the Holy Spirit  as being  supported from the Scriptures as they are very different experiences even, It is important to recognize that it is still now  God’s will for all believers to be baptized with the Spirit and also to to be continually  filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
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8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
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Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
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33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
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I still find it really now absurd that so many people are experts to speak on the Baptism, filling of the Holy Sprit when they clearly have never had such an experience it.. as Jesus had said you can tell them what they are  by their fruits, rather even  their clear  ignorance of the Holy Spirit still. 
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There sadly and not unexpectedly is much controversy and debate about the baptism with the Holy Spirit and being filled with the Holy Spirit especially since the devil opposes it and falsely stirs people to oppose it. .
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 Imagine this also some clearly ignorant people falsely would  try to say that because any subject is controversial, it is wrong, should be ignored, avoided, etc. especially the Baptism of the Holy Spirit where it  it seems  to be mostly opposed falsely by  the dispensationalist and the  the Baptist denominations which  still also  falsely believe  that all Christians they do receive the Holy Spirit upon conversion and they now do not need the evidence of speaking in other tongues, but yet they clearly do mostly  not manifest any empowerment of the Holy Spirit still.. . 
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Yes the Baptism of  The Holy Spirit  as per John 3:1-18  is a very controversial subject or some in the modern day church nevertheless one that keeps popping up because it is ordained by God to do so. A Christian has initially the Holy Spirit of GOD within them by faith upon conversion  if they have specially asked for it firstly, nut most have not and do not even know anything about the subject of the Holy Spirit even.. But still all Christian believer must experience an outward manifestation of the Holy Spirit ‘s empowerment   at some other point in their walk with GOD in Christ hopefully but most falsely still do not.. For we don’t know what we should pray for as we ought but the Spirit market intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And He that searcheth the hearts knoweth the mind of the Spirit because He maketh intercession for the saints according to the will Of GOD, Jude: 20 & Romans 8:26-27. , Isaiah 28:11-12 & 33:19. It  Whatever it may be we must  pray to the the Holy Spirit teach us the whole truth here too, as we are commanded to do so,  
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Yes under the New Covenant, the Holy Spirit filling scenario is different.from the Old Testament. Of course, submission to God, yielding to the working and guidance of the Holy Spirit are important issues in our lives, but being baptized with the Spirit or having the fullness of the Spirit is not merely yielding to the Holy Spirit already dwelling in the heart of the believer. It is the Holy Spirit coming upon the believer and filling him, empowering him, changing him
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 It is God’s intention for all His children to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit, continually filled with the Holy Spirit, and be led, taught and empowered by the Spirit in every aspect of their lives. Sadly, many of God’s children are not filled with the Holy Spirit. This has significant implications on their spiritual growth and their contribution to the advancement of God’s kingdom. If you have it you would know for sure, it would have changed your own personal Christian life dramatically.
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There are much too many professing Christian believers who do not pay due attention to the role and ministry of the Holy Spirit in their lives. As a result, they experience almost none   the life and power of the Spirit. This significantly hinders their spiritual growth and service. This is so even   they are incapable to  participate in any Christian programs and activities.
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There are various reasons for their neglect of the ministry of the Holy Spirit, such as being ignorant of this area of truth and being over-reliant on personal capabilities, unrepentant sins,  and effort to work out their faith  and the excesses of those who over-emphasize of their inflated egos still.
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As with any position in doctrines, those who oppose  that baptism with the Holy Spirit is accompanied by tongues really do need to substantiate such a position clearly from the Scriptures but they rightfully have not been able to do so. They would rather confuse the issue deliberately it seems still proving the devil is controlling them rather still.
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To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom  we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?
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(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One,    Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
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Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

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Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…
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 and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those many still  in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths.
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It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those carnal people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”
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The New Testament scriptural presentation is that there two events, the baptism with the Holy Spirit and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Those who are baptised with the Holy Spirit experience being empowered, equipped by the Holy Spirit. .  Thus the “Baptism with the Holy Spirit”  is a reference to the experience when Christ baptizes us with the Holy Spirit whereas “being filled with the Spirit” describes  the holy Spirit’s prescience in our lives.. And so, when we are baptized with the Spirit, we are also filled with the Spirit but we also do have to be refilled but this is not so  with the baptism with the Holy Spirit .
This understanding of the two expressions is consistent with the scriptural presentation of the experience of the fullness of the Spirit when one is baptised with the Spirit and Paul’s injunction in Ephesians 5:18 to be filled and continue to be filled with the Holy Spirit. The injunction implies that a believer may or may not have experienced the gifts, empowerment, equipping  of the Spirit and there are those who have must take care that they continue to be filled. The original text of Ephesians 5:18 has the sense “be filled and continue to be filled”. It is meant to be a continuing reality, not just an experience at a moment in time.The fullness of the Spirit is a reality that we need to maintain if we have already been Baptized personality by the Holy Spirit. 

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The Scriptures still clearly exhorts all believers to be Baptized now and to be personally  filled with the Holy Spirit.  Ephesians 5:18: “Be filled with the Spirit”. Why would there even be a need to be filled if you had it already now?  Jesus promises us that he will Baptize us with the Holy Spirit and Paul’s exhortation in Ephesians 5:18 makes it clear that even though it is also still God’s intention for all to be filled with the Spirit, not all are filled nor Baptized, and Paul’s exhortation implies that we can do  now something about it.
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So have you personally now you been Baptized with the Holy Spirit and even filled with the Holy Spirit again?
 
see also https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

June 4, 2013

A true Christian, True Christianity

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 7:25 am

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For a lot of people these days their too often false version of mere Christianity seems to consists of Having a blog with the word Christian and their name on it, or  going to church 3 times a years and  for some others it is going Sunday morning.. but not to any of the prayer meetings, or the Sunday night services..  and that is all it is it  seems to be for many.. then others seem to wonder why these people have gone astray and are so much in error  now too.
But my own version of true Christianity is significantly deeper, and broader as well.
 
Firstly I accepted the personally need to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and personal savior from all of our sins as well nut I also believe in the need of Sanctification, the Baptism of the Holy spirit where one next is equipped  for God’s service, God will and plan for their life, including all of the charismatic’s gifts now too.
 
I also do believe in the need of all Christians to have daily devotionals, Bible and prayer time with God preferably  both morning and evenings, starting and ending the day with God, and where God can personally speak to us,   teach, direct us some more. Just as I believe in daily repentances, confessions to God the admission of our sins now too
I belief when the bible says the just shall live by  faith now that includes each and every person, they are to trust God to supply their needs, wants, desires, to live their life based on God words, his instructions to them, not based on falsely following after other men or women, or one’ supposed personal inclination, supposed talents.
 
I rightfully do believe the same equal rights now of all persons, of all ages too, and in voluntarily, unenforceable, mutal submissions to any Christian persons, pastors, elders.. and I do not believe in any enslavements. hierarchy pecking order etc.,,
 
I also do believe in the personal need of appropriate evangelism in love firstly, our being able to share, to explain , to teach to others the biblical the reasons for one’s Christian based faith, beliefs.
 
I also do believe in the  need of all Christians participating in both social actions and political action now too. We all do need to be really concerned, involved  personally and as a church in  helping the poor and needy people starting in our own church, neighborhood  too. I clearly believe in guiding, directing, instructing the political leaders to make the right choices, decisions, laws now too and insuring that we elect the best persons available for the job, not necessity Christian ones even.
 
Having a good time, being self centered, selfish, acquiring all the material goods, pleasure one can have is certainly not what being a true Christian now is all about too.
 
Yes I also believe that Christians can only marry another really Christians and that all Christians cannot divorce, while they temporarily can get a separation, for proper Biblical counseling mostly.
 
I rightfully and clearly now still do not believe in having the wife as the boss, head of the home, thus her having all of the say, the sole run of all things now too…
(Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(Eph 5:24 KJV) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(Eph 5:27 KJV) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
I also do not believe in taking any ostrich approach when we personally eye unacceptable wrong doings towards ourselves and others, and I do believe in asking all of the bad persons to repent, to even next openly expose, rebuke them now even too for their wrong doings and repentances, even if they think they are somebody, a pastor , cop or politician , professional included.. God himself does not accept personal or human rights abuses, sins, unrepentances  quietly.
Nor do I  I automatically assume that all persons even any professing Christians now too  now are are decent, honest, the real purveyors of justices too.
Jesus said by their own fruits not their mere words you can tell what a tree is like for a good tree brings forth good fruit, and a bad tree bad fruit..
 
Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Matthew 12 L33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
So I too do have a right or the duty  to be a fruit inspector 
Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
 
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
Mark 8:32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
(Mat 18:17 KJV) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
(Rev 2:4 KJV) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 3:1 KJV) And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable. All of these mostly immoral,  lying now persons, pastors who practice, counsel divorce, even the preachers, spouses, lawyers, judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
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