Missing the point?

May 16, 2012

God even demands the bad peachers repent as well

( Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 ) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

and never mind the cover-up,excuses, false denials..

The mouth of an immoral woman is a deep pit; He who is abhorred by the LORD will fall there. Proverbs 22:14

The righteousness of the upright will deliver them, But the unfaithful will be caught by their lust. Proverbs 11:6

(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 2:16 KJV) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
(Rev 2:21 KJV) And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
(Rev 3:3 KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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I was in another city fellowshipping with the major pastors of the major fundamental and evangelical churches and I was realy surprised as to how immoral the pastors still were, they lied, slandered, committed adultery and they joked about it too.. I wondered not only if they were realy Christian pastors but imposters now too.. God did not accept any of it for he asked me to ask these bad pastors to repent and I even helped to close one of the churches because it had become so corrupted. Including even their false Christian rich man’s club..
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“Bi- Sexual Felon Or Hero? The Man of The Hour?

Who said I cannot judge liars, rapists and thieves? Not God! Rather Jesus told us in Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 7:16 “You will know them by their fruits. So we can judge, write and read about them? For the record, what biblical restoration did Jim Bakker do for his sins and crimes ? None! Jim Bakker repented of what? Very little! So his repentance wasn’t worth much? The only thing that Jim Bakker ever repented off was teaching prosperity. In his book he doesn’t admit to repenting to anything else. Now we know from fact that Jim was an adulterer, a thief, a liar and bisexual and he did these things in public as a religious leader. Could you please tell me when he repented of his sins in public just like David did in Psalm 51 and “Zacchaeus did in Luke

Luke 19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 19:6 So he made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 19:7 But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner.” 19:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.” 19:9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham; 19:10 “for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”

EX 22:1 “If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and slaughters it or sells it, he shall restore five oxen for an ox and four sheep for a sheep.

EX 22:4 “If the theft is certainly found alive in his hand, whether it is an ox or donkey or sheep, he shall restore double.

“He was one of the worst of the very worst preacher men begging on TV, the kind of conman and scripture twisters that could make anyone flip the channel as fast as humanly possible (Christian or non-Christian), the leader of the so-called PTL Club (Praise the Lord), a show full of hand clapping and bebopping and unscrupulous moneychanging shenanigans and crocodile tears galore — and the odd thing was, even when he had fallen as far as he could fall (lying, cheating, promiscuity, false prosperity theology to separate trusting Christians from their money, rape, homosexuality, tax fraud) he was always sincere, by his own word he probably felt he really was serving God, and he probably started out not all that far from the truth.” (Douglas Christian Larsen)

Jim Bakker was founder and former president of the PTL Ministries. Sam Johnson was director of World Missions in 1986. Richard Dortch was the PTL’s 2nd minister in 1984. In 1987 former Secretary of the Interior James Watt, and retired televangelist Rex Humbard were named to the PTL board by then- chairman Reverend Jerry Falwell. Bakker resigned from Praise The Lord ministries in 1987 after admitting he had an affair with a ministry secretary. In 1989, he was convicted in Charlotte of a wire and mail-fraud scheme over the sale of more than 150,000 lifetime partnerships to the planned Heritage USA theme park in Fort Mill, S.C. Bakker’s 45-year sentence was reduced to 18 years and he served five before his parole in 1995. While in prison, his former wife, Tammy Faye – now remarried as Tammy Faye Messner – divorced him. Bakker has since contended that his years in prison were his salvation. He re-read all the scriptures and crucially concluded that the so-called “prosperity preaching” of his PTL days – wherein he equated dollar-wealth with godliness – was misguided. For a while, Bakker lived by his new creed that God also attended to the poor. He moved to Los Angeles where he met his new wife, with whom he is now raising seven Hispanic foster children. Although many sheep are leery of Bakker, the clergy admired his propensity to rob and use the sheep. In 1995, when he was barely out of prison, he addressed a Christian leadership conference where 10,000 clergymen cheered and gave him a 15-minute standing ovation. “I thought people would spit on me,” he later recalled. “Instead they received me with open arms.” Bakker is now back on the air with “The Jim Bakker Show,” taped in Branson, Mo. Jim Bakker is an evangelical fundamentalist who began his television career co-hosting a children’s puppet show with his wife Tammy Faye on Pat Robertson’s 700 Club television show. Bakker rose to fame as a TV evangelist in the PTL (Praise the Lord) Ministry, an enterprise he started in 1974 and built from the ground up. The PTL claimed in 1987 to have 13 million subscribers and assets of $175 million including Heritage USA, a 2,300-acre Christian theme park and home of the PTL Network in Ft. Mill, North Carolina. Other assets included the PTL Network, and a retirement center in Charlotte, North Carolina.

The PTL Network reached an estimated 13 million households on its own cable channel and was also aired on 180 other commercial stations. Heritage USA was a lavish resort with a 500-room luxury hotel, an amphitheater for staging passion plays, an amusement park, and Billy Graham’s boyhood home–brought there piece by piece and reconstructed. (Hence Billy Graham supported Jim Bakker in prison and out of prison!) Guests who have made appearances on the Bakker’s TV show included: evangelists Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, James Robison, and Robert Schuller; actors Mickey Rooney, Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, Pearl Bailey, Anita Bryant, Little Richard, and Mr. T. Speaking about the rise of an entrepreneurial movement in Pentecostal Christianity author Susan Harding wrote of the PTL: “It reached its apogee in Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker’s Heritage USA, a kind of postmodern pentecostal mecca. Their ‘inspirational theme park’ conspicuously celebrates consumption, play, excess, indulgence, immediate gratification, wild swings of growth and crisis, anti- hierarchy, feminization, polymorphous perversity, ‘name it/claim it,’ visual images, spectacle and narrative fragmentation, disposable identities, movement, artifice, depthlessness and decenteredness. However, all has not been rosy for the PTL which by 1978 was $13 million in debt and in 1979 was investigated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) about Bakker’s on-the-air solicitations for overseas work, which were used to pay the bills for his domestic operations. The investigation of the PTL Network disappeared in the restructuring of the FCC that occurred in the early years of the Reagan administration. Bakker and his ministry continued to expand and managed to stay financially afloat until 1987. The fall of the PTL began at the February 1987 National Religious Broadcasters convention when Jimmy Swaggart heard rumors of sexual infidelities on the part of Jim Bakker. Bakker, fearing that Swaggart would create a public scandal and take over Heritage USA, resigned from the PTL Network in March 1987, turning temporary control over to Jerry Falwell. Falwell examined the books and found that the PTL was more than $60 million in debt. Falwell refused to turn the network back to the Bakkers, claiming them to be unfit for the ministry of the gospel. Falwell’s financial rescue plan for the PTL complex was turned down by Judge Rufus Reynolds as being inadequate for contributors and creditors. Falwell then resigned as head of the PTL in 1988, turning the ministry over to board members James Watt and Rex Humbard. Meanwhile the IRS had been investigating the PTL since 1980, claiming the Heritage USA theme park operations were commercial, not ministerial. After Falwell’s resignation, the IRS revoked the PTL’s tax-exempt status retroactive to 1980. The IRS claimed that the PTL owed $65 million in back taxes. The PTL went into bankruptcy proceedings in 1988 and was sold when Judge Rufus Reynolds accepted a bid of $115 million from Rabbi Stephen Mernick, an Orthodox rabbi from Toronto. Jim Bakker had no formal training in theology–he failed to complete even the introductory course in religious doctrine at North Central Bible College. The Bakker ministry was one of love–the God that healed and forgave all human trangressions. Bakker’s ministry sanctioned extreme forms of “conversion experiences,” where sinners turned into saints via divine intervention. This allowed Bakker to accept a wide variety of religious beliefs and traditions into the fold of his ministry. The Bakkers used the tradition of Pentecostal testimony on the PTL Network to work through the many crises in their lives and to justify their extravagant lifestyles and financial transgressions. Between 1984 and mid-1987, the Bakkers received annual salaries of $200,000 each and Jim awarded himself over $4 million in bonuses. The Bakkers owned, among other things, a $600,000 house in Palm Springs, 4 condos in California, and a Rolls Royce. Bakker has been disordained as an Assembly of God minister. At its peak 25 ordained ministers from the Assemblies of God worked full-time for the PTL. PTL sold “lifetime memberships” for a $1,000 or more which entitled buyers to a 3-night stay annually at a luxury hotel in Heritage USA. According to the prosecution at Bakker’s trial, tens of thousands of memberships had been sold, and only one 500-room hotel completed. Bakker had not only sold more “exclusive” partnerships than could be accommodated, but had also raised more than twice the money needed to build the hotel. The Bakker trial revealed that a good deal of the money had gone into operating expenses of Heritage USA, and Bakker kept $3,700,000 for himself. Bakker, who apparently made all of the financial decisions for the PTL and kept two sets of books to conceal the accounting irregularities, took conspicuous consumption to new extremes. PTL once spent over $100,000 for a private jet to fly the Bakker’s clothing across the country. PTL also spent more than $100 on a purchase of cinnamon rolls because Jim and Tammy wanted the smell of them in their hotel room.) “They [Bakkers] epitomized the excesses of the nineteen eighties–the greed, the love of glitz, and the shamelessness– which in their case was so pure as to almost amount to a kind of innocence.”

The PTL, the Christian Broadcasting Network, and the Trinity Broadcasting Network in April 1980 pooled their resources to provide live and taped coverage of the Full Gospel Business Men’s Fellowship International’s day-long prayer rally, “Washington for Jesus.” Jim Bakker claimed that the PTL sent “a large monthly contribution to Mark Buntain whose overseas ministry feeds 12,000 children a day.” However, the Charlotte Observer reported in 1979 that the PTL raised thousands of dollars for foreign missions that never went to the missions. In 1986 the PTL claimed it was in the process of building a School of Evangelism which would use missionaries, radio, and television to send its message around the globe. This, as with many other Bakker schemes, never happened. At that time PTL television shows were being broadcast in Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, and Thailand. Jim Bakker’s daily TV show reached an estimated 5.8 million households each month during 1986. After losing Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker in 1987, “The PTL Club” broadcasts went from 67 TV stations down to 32 stations, and its viewing audience dropped by half. In 1988 Bakker, his number 2 administrator Richard Dortch, and aides David and James Taggart were indicted on charges of fraud and conspiracy. Bakker and Dortsch were charged, among other things, with illegally taking some $4 million in bonuses from PTL funds, defrauding at least 150,000 contributors to the PTL, mail fraud, tax evasion, defrauding the thousands of “lifetime partners” who bought memberships to Heritage USA, and conspiring to “create and continue to lead lavish and extravagant life-styles.” Bakker was found guilty on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy and in October 1989 was sentenced to 45 years in jail and fined $500,000. He was paroled because the original judge made some statements about Jim’s religious beliefs which were not proper.”

Sources:

1. “Jim Bakker Indicted on Fraud Charges,” Fund Raising Management, Jan 1989.

2. Russell Shaw, “TV Ministries Gaining Ground After Scandals,” Electronic Media, Jan 30, 1989.

3. Louise Bourgault, “The ‘Jim Bakker Show’: The Program, Its Viewers and Their Churches,” The Journal of Communication and Religion, Mar 1988.

4. Letter from Sam Johnson, PTL Ministry, Dec 8, 1986.

5. Letter from Jim Bakker, PTL Television Network, Aug 8, 1983.

6. Sara Diamond, Spiritual Warfare (Boston, MA: South End Press, 1989).

7. “God and Money: Sex Scandal, Greed and Lust for Power Split the TV Preaching World,” Newsweek, April 6, 1987.

8. “Divided Pentecostals: Bakker and Swaggart,” The Christian Century, May 6, 1987.

9. Susan Harding, “The World of the Born-Again Telescandals,” Michigan Quarterly Review, Fall 1988.

10. David Earle Anderson, “The ‘Holy War’ for Ratings,” Christianity and Crisis, May 4, 1987.

11. “Power, Glory–And Politics,” Time, Feb 17, 1986.

12. “Jerry Falwell Is Not Just Another Baptist Minister,” Christianity Today, Mar 18, 1988.

13. “Can Jim and Tammy Make a Comeback?,” U.S. News & World Report, Oct 19, 1987.

14. “Fresh Out of Miracles,” Newsweek, May 11, 1987.

15. “TV’s Unholy Row,” Time, Apr 6, 1987.

16. Richard N. Ostling, “Jim Bakker’s Crumbling World,” Time, Dec 19, 1988.

17. Facts on File (New York, NY: Facts on File, 1989).

18. Terry C. Muck, “Healing the Church–After Bakker: Thanks to a North Carolina Jury, a Time of Recovery Can Come to American Christians,” Christianity Today, 1989.

19. “An Unholy War in the TV Pulpits,” U.S. News and World Report, April 6, 1987.

20. Richard N. Ostling, “Falwell Throws In the Towel,” Time, Oct 19, 1987.

21. Richard N. Ostling, “Tuesday, the Rabbi Bought PTL,” Time, Oct 17, 1988.

22. “Praise the Lord, Pay IRS,” Time, May 2, 1988.

23. Frances FitzGerald, “Jim and Tammy,” The New Yorker, April 29, 1990.

24. GroupWatch – The Interhemispheric Resource Center, Box 4506, Albuquerque, NM 87196.

25. Hadden, Jeffrey K. and Anson Shupe. Televangelism: Power and Politics on God’s Frontier. New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1988.

26.Jean Seligmann, “The Inimitable Tammy Faye, Newsweek, June 8, 1987, p. 69.

27. Cited in Gordon Witkin and Jeannye Thornton, “Stones Fly in the TV Temple,” U.S. News ~ World Report, June 8, 1987.

28. Transcript, Jim Bakker’s statement of March 19, 1987. Charlotte Observer, March 20, 1987.

29. Megan Rosenfeld, “Bakker Says His Ministry is at an End,” Washington Post, May 2, 1987.

30. Art Harris and Michael Isikoff, “The Bakkers’ Tumultuous Return, Washington Post June 12, 1987.

31. Transcript of ABC’s “Nightline,” May 28, 1987.

32. “Statements from Bakkers,” USA Today, April 27, 1987.

33. Ted Mellnik, “Bakker, Dortch Dismissed,” Charlotte Observer, May 5, 1987.

34. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker

Jim Bakker’s back Independent (England), June 15, 2003 http://news.independent.co.uk/

“The life of Jim Bakker, the world’s most famous fallen tele-evangelist, has always been about numbers, and we are not just talking hymns and psalms. There was the $1.9m salary he paid himself in 1986, the last full year that he led the Praise The Lord (PTL) Ministry that he founded in 1972 with his thickly mascara’d wife, Tammy Faye. At the time, he owned six luxury mansions, 47 bank accounts and a single Rolls-Royce. He was accustomed to raising $1m from his TV-goggling disciples across America every two days. Then came 1989, when he was charged, and convicted, on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy for stealing $3.7m from his flock to fund his fabulous lifestyle. We could go on in this vein forever. It was never exactly clear how many sexual partners (allegedly both women and men) he enjoyed in those crazy days before his reckoning with the law and crushing humiliation. We do know he paid $265,000 in cash to buy the silence of a church secretary he had been involved with in 1980. The opulence of the Bakkers’ lifestyle at the height of their reign could not be measured in simple figures, however. They enjoyed the American Dream, but a garishly inflated version of it. They had an air-conditioned dog kennel and gold-plated bathrooms. Theirs was the kind of money that bought everything except good taste. Tammy Faye, who used glove puppets to help explain the Word of the Lord on air, is still seen today as the gold standard for eye shadow run amok. There is even a documentary film about her simply called The Eyes of Tammy Faye Bakker. Jim had a monkey face. His apple-shiny cheeks contrived to look at once bloated and stretched. The Bakkers flaunted their wealth and used it to raise more and more of it. They offered a model of extravagant living that viewers drank in, presumably not in a spirit of post-modern irony. At its peak, the PTL broadcasts touched 13.5 million American households every day. The Bakkers are still being pursued for $3m (£1.9m) in unpaid income tax.But there is one number, above all, that Jim Bakker, will never forget. It is 07407-058. Put “Inmate” in front of it, and you will see why. Bakker was sentenced to 45 years in federal prison for his crimes, even though some of the counts against him were later reversed and in 1994 he was released after only five years behind bars. By then, Tammy Faye had divorced him and Bakker, we all assumed, would fade into shamed obscurity. One thing was for sure, he told one interviewer shortly afterwards – he would never preach on television again. He did write a book, however, simply called I Was Wrong. And then, lo and behold, Bakker was wrong again. Not only is he preaching once more, but he is doing it before the cameras. Second chances are encouraged in Christian teaching and, for sure, they are allowed in America. For proof, you need look no further than a joint called the Studio City Café in Branson, Missouri, a folksy tourist town that peddles God and country music to Middle America in roughly equal measures.

Since January, Bakker, 63, and his new wife, Lori Graham Bakker, have been turning up here each weekday morning to record an hour-long show of music, pious chat and, of course, old-fashioned preaching. The show is being carried by a growing roster of television stations across America and, via satellite, around the world. Assisting them are 20 Christian singers doubling as waitresses and cooks and, on most days, a celebrity guest of questionable calibre. Tony Orlando was on recently, and if you can’t quite pin him down, he is the man who sang “Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree” with Dawn. On hand every day to ensure an atmosphere of wholesome devotion to Bakker, are the paying customers of the 260-seat café, nearly all tourists visiting Branson, cheering him on while shovelling down barbecued ribs and eight-inch-high chocolate gateaux. Bakker, in other words, has made a swift journey from shamed to shameless. When the new Jim Bakker Show hit the airwaves in January, it was 16 years to the day since his last PTL appearance. Yet the sins that were subsequently unearthed were surely enough to make any resurrection in the TV evangelising business an utter impossibility. Chief among them was his success in persuading countless viewers to donate sums of $1,000 or more to purchase “lifetime partnerships” in a hotel complex at his glitzy Christian theme park in North Carolina called Heritage USA. The theme park, with a Main Street to rival Disney World’s, certainly existed – but the hotel never did. It was the biggest time-share scam ever conceived, cloaked in the false respectability of the name of God. Thousands of American souls, mostly retirees, found they would be unable ever to get their money back. Bakker was defrocked by his denomination, the Assemblies of God, for “conduct unbecoming of a minister”, and all of America, and his fellow television evangelists, turned against him. Jerry Falwell publicly declared Bakker a sexual deviant, an embezzler and a liar. After taking over the PTL Club, as it was known, and taking it into bankruptcy, Falwell called its founder “the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in two thousand years of church history”. Few at the time disagreed.

Bakker has since contended that his years in prison were his salvation. He re-read all the scriptures and crucially concluded that the so-called “prosperity preaching” of his PTL days – wherein he equated dollar-wealth with godliness – was misguided. For a while, Bakker lived by his new creed that God also attended to the poor. He moved to Los Angeles where he worked for a ministry working in a city ghetto. It was there that he met his new wife, with whom he is now raising seven Hispanic foster children. Later the couple moved to Florida where they founded a Christian camp for inner-city teens, called the New Covenant Fellowship. And, as he did so, Bakker discovered that he was not quite the pariah he imagined. When he addressed a Christian leadership conference in Phoenix, Arizona, in 1995, when he was barely out of prison, 10,000 clergymen cheered and gave him a 15-minute standing ovation. “I thought people would spit on me,” he later recalled. “Instead they received me with open arms.”

Bakker recently commented that it was a “supernatural act of God” that got him back in front of the cameras. He may also have been inspired by his ex-wife, Tammy Faye. In 1994, she married Roe Messner, a construction contractor who used to be one of Jim’s best friends and who helped build Heritage USA, and now she too is exploiting her notoriety on the tube. With a little-known actor, Jim J Bullock, she has a cable chat-show featuring D-list Hollywood guests, entitled The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. She talks Tinseltown and glamour but leaves God well out of it.

But, in fact, most of the credit for Jim’s resurrection goes to a Branson businessman called Jerry Crawford. Crawford’s unbroken admiration of Bakker stemmed from his memory of visiting Heritage USA many years earlier, an experience, he has since claimed, that saved his then crumbling marriage. Crawford owns the Studio City Café in Branson and persuaded Bakker that it was the perfect venue for a television comeback. Relying on the sweat partly of volunteers and the broadcast talents of other devotees of Bakker, the restaurant was hastily converted in time for January’s launch. It remains a shoe-string affair. Fabulous has made way for folksy and Bakker cuts a self-consciously humble figure.

“Oh my, I never really planned to come back on television,” commented Bakker himself. “I had been sick for two months before the show started, and I think it was related to my losses before, to the press, and what I’ve been through. I think it was just my body saying, ‘No! No! Don’t put your head above the crowd. You’ll get tomatoes thrown at you again.'”

And the reception has been remarkable. “I’ve never been welcomed so wonderfully anywhere in my life,” Bakker said of Branson and his new audiences. “I’m beyond excited, I’m overwhelmed.” His show airs daily on 30 Christian broadcast television stations around the US, even though in some markets the time-slot is in the small hours. It is taken by 200 cable channels and, most recently, reaches homes worldwide via the Christian Television Network’s “Angel” satellite. “We didn’t really get any flak at all [for putting Bakker back on the air],” commented CTN’s president Bob D’Andrea. “We’ve had a lot of favourable comments that people are glad to see Jim back.”

And among the folks packing the Studio City Café, you will even find a few who donated to PTL and to the hotel scheme and lost everything they gave. But, apparently, there is just something about Bakker they cannot resist. And they forgive him. “We lost money,” Bill Armstrong, recently retired from a metal casting company, told a reporter from the Springfield News-Leader after visiting the café and watching Bakker do his thing again. “He’s forgiven.” And people respond to his new low-key tone. “We don’t come as someone who has all the answers,” Bakker insisted. “We don’t come as examples. We come as a demonstration of God’s restoration.”

He may not want to be an example – prison is seldom something the average viewer aspires to – but Bakker has not been able to resist digging out some of the trappings of his old incarnation. A few of the more valuable paintings that used to adorn the walls of Heritage USA are once again on view in the café, including four huge paintings of Jesus by Joseph Wallace King. And on a small wall just next to the kitchen, fans can find a collection of framed photographs, harking back to the days when Bakker hob-nobbed with presidents and tycoons. Bakker can be seen posing with Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon and George Bush Sr. There is even a frame exhibiting an engraved napkin ring and other mementoes from Air Force One from the day in 1980 when President Carter invited him on board to help him pray for the American hostages in Iran.

So, what about Bakker’s old fetish with numbers? At what stage in his show, you may be wondering, does he stare deep into the lens of the television camera and implore his new-found flock to send their dollars to Branson? Wouldn’t it be nice to build a Bakker motel adjacent to the café, at least? No, that is not part of the script this time around and if it was, you can be sure that Bakker would be scooped up by federal agents faster than he can say “Praise be to Jesus . But we cannot let him off the hook completely. Someone has to pay for the cost of the show . Programming is expensive nowadays. So there it is, for those who make it all the way to the end of the Jim Bakker hour – a gentle request to viewers to write a cheque, large or small, to keep the show on the air. And donations, believe it or not, are rolling in.

“Don’t Call Me Brother:

A Ringmaster’s Escape from the Pentecostal Church

Austin Miles has been a well-known cicus ringmaster for most of his adult life. It was, he found, good preparation for his experiences with PTL and the Assemblies of God churches. Miles is the first ordained Assembly of God minister to leave the movement and write an in-depth book revealing the inner workings of this sect. This is not rumor, not innuendo. It is fact, seen first-hand, and fully described for the first time. Don’t Call Me Brother is not a book written by an outside observer – Austin Miles was an active participant in the evolution of the PTL Club.

– Austin Miles was on intimate terms with the entire cast of PTL’s characters and the high-tech world of Christian movers and shakers: Jim Bakker, Tammy Faye Bakker, Pat Robertson, Charles and Frances Hunter, Richard Dortch, John Wesley Fletcher, Christian celebreties such as Pat Boone and Ephram Zimbalist, Jr., and many others.

– Austin Miles opened the door on the steam room where Jim Bakker was cavorting – in the nude – with three other men.

– Austin Miles was there when televangelism hatched its super-successful fund-raising schemes, and he participated in the staged “financial crisis” telethon, during which millions of dollars poured into the coffers of the PTL Club.

– Austin Miles watched the development of Jim Bakker’s violent mood swings and saw the chilling possibility that Jim Bakker could have become another Jim Jones.

– Austin Miles was there when Jim Bakker started a fist fight with his producer over the favors of the current Miss America.

Austin Miles had fame, wealth, and a wonderful family. But by the time he finally broke free of the fanatic world of the religious right, he had lost everything. Don’t Call Me Brother is his story. A poignant, outrageous, sometimes hilarious drama peopled with colorful real-life characters. Building to a climax with a surprise double-twist ending, this story is tough but fair, a must-read for those who want to know what really happens in the world of America’s media-glitzed charismatic religions.

Note As a friend of the author Austin Miles, and having read the book, I have no doubt over the matters he witnessed firsthand. Although I’m an Assemblies of God minister, I recognize that in all human organizations (churches are human organizations) there will be fallible people with poor judgment and liable to temptation. Austin Miles has come back to Christianity, and has repudiated the negative attitude he expresses in his book towards Christianity, although he still maintains what he saw was true. He and I have had many wonderful conversations, and will continue to do so. He is a preacher again, and travels to churches. He has returned to Christian ministry with lessons learned and a new attitude. Rev. Richard F. Lee.

A PBS Television documentary title “Religion and Politics” that first aired in December of 1987 spotlighted Ronald Reagan’s interference in the Justice Department’s attempted initial investigation of Jim Bakker, as well as the investigations of the IRS and FCC. An interesting sidelight to this cover-up concerns George Bush. He made a trip to Charlotte to meet privately with Jim Bakker in a hotel room. He wanted Jim to endorse him for President on the PTL network. Jim asked him if he was a born-again Christian to which Bush replied ‘no’. Jim said that he would only endorse Bush if he openly declared himself a born-again. “Carter did that”, Bush shot back, “and I don’t want to be classified with him.” “Then I can’t endorse you”, Jim answered. That refusal in March of 1985 angered Bush and proved fatal to Jim Bakker. It was George Bush, out of revenge, who instigated the investigation that destroyed Jim Bakker and the PTL Club. It was not as a duty to the American public that this investigation and conviction took place. It was done only for vengeance. This is in keeping with Bush’s CIA background, where he routinely de-stabilized entire countries whose governments disagreed with him. This has been documented to me by a confidential source with a news-wire service and who was very close to that entire affair. (Church & State: A Secret Marriage by Austin Miles).

See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, “Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven.” Now this, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. For our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:25-29

Fire can be a very constructive and destructive thing depends on how it’s used. It does purge impurities out of certain things but it also destroys other things leaving nothing behind. Assembly of God preacher and Evangelist Jim Bakker presided as the king over one of the most corrupt television ministries of the past two decades. A successful televangelism group run by Jim and Tammy Bakker is a testimony that Evangelical pastors sold their own souls just to make their wallets thicker, when they were supposed to bring God to the people. As a result Jim Bakker and his sidekick Richard Dortch ended up in prison accused of sexual immorality, tax evasion, and racketeering. The wave of corruption not only affected other televangelists such as Jimmy Swaggart, but also showed a dark, dirty fight for the control of PTL among several other prominent televangelists.

Felon Richard Dortch, senior vice-president of PTL and associate pastor of Heritage Village Church, said pride, arrogance and secrets led to the PTL scandal. While most people never face temptations on the same scale, the ingredients for seemingly smaller failures are the same, he said. Dortch said the men in PTL’s leadership felt they were above accountability. They felt specially called by God and accountable only to Him. He said they didn’t plan the scandal; instead, it was the natural result of living for oneself, rather than for God.

Most people are aware of Jim Bakker’s $265,000 payoff to Jessica Hahn to keep her sexual services to him a secret, his longtime homosexual relationship with his right hand man David Taggart, his prison sentence, his close relationship to Billy Graham, and his lust for public spotlight.

On CNN/Larry King Live, Jan. 30, 2001 from Bonifay, Florida, Jim Bakker, whose ministry crumbled in 1987 when it was discovered that he used church donations to pay his secretary to hide their sexual affair stated “I’m actually making plans to go back on television. I haven’t announced it. It’s not too many weeks away. We may be making our debut.”

The Associated Press reported on December10, 2002 that the cafe where Jim Bakker plans to carry daily broadcasts has opened. Now, the fallen televangelist must persuade TV stations to carry his talk show. Diners at Studio City Cafe will be the studio audience, local and national entertainers will be featured guests and Bakker and his wife, ordained minister Lori Graham Bakker, will be hosts. The show will feature the 20 Christian singers who double as wait staff, cashiers and cooks at the 260-seat cafe operated by the Churchill Coffee Company. “We’re not looking at the big (networks) yet,” said Chris Busch, director of Tulsa, Okla.-based B/M/C Advertising, which is recruiting television stations. “Jim wants steady, controlled, well-managed growth. He’ll be tweaking the show initially. One thing we know for sure is Jim believes in excellence.”

Bakker’s backers, both newfound and those dating to Bakker’s scandal-riddled PTL Ministries in York County, S.C., are financing and encouraging the project. “It’s surreal to me right now. I know there are some people who won’t like me, and I don’t blame them. But since I’ve been in Missouri, not one person has been mean or cruel or said a sarcastic remark to me,” Bakker said.

The minister – he is unaffiliated with any denomination – returned to Christian evangelism upon his release from federal prison in 1995 and began working with a ministry in Los Angeles. He was convicted of mail and wire fraud 13 years ago. In recent years, he has operated from Vernon, Fla., where he founded another independent ministry, New Covenant Fellowship. Bakker said he has been stunned by the outpouring of moral and financial support and volunteer labor he has found in Branson. “I’ve never been welcomed so wonderfully anywhere in my life,” Bakker said. “I’m beyond excited. I’m overwhelmed. People are just doing things. Last week, a man that sells carpeting chased me with his truck, and he told me he had heard me on the radio talking about this. He said, `God told me to do whatever you asked. What can I do for you?'”

As his fellow evangelists seemed to take their turns facing justified criticism, Billy Graham maintained his own integrity and the sincerity of his message. Far from publicly condemning his peers, Billy spoke of them with concern, and even visited Jim Bakker in prison for birds of feather stick together.

It is not known whether the Graham’s, including Billy and Franklin Graham, will be assisting Bakker in with his ventures. Franklin came to prison over and over again to visit Jim Bakker. Franklin Graham said, “Jim Bakker’s my friend”. When Bakker got out of prison the Grahams sponsored him and paid for a house for him to live in and gave him a car to drive.

None of the Graham’s supported or comforted any of the Jim Bakker’s victims! It didn’t matter to the Grahams that -Bakker had 47 bank accounts, 6 luxury homes, $1.9 million dollar salary and Rolls Royce and Mercedez cars.

– Falwell called Bakker a liar, an embezzler and sexual deviate. He fired Bakker’s entire staff when he took over Praise the Lord show. Falwell bankrupted the PTL Club calling Bakker “the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in two thousand years of church history”

But Jim Bakker won’t have to pay $120 million to former followers who bought “partnerships” in his PTL tele-ministry. A jury in North Carolina on July 23, 1996 threw out a class action suit brought on behalf of more than 160,000 onetime believers who paid as much as $7,000 each in the ’80s to join Jim and Tammy Faye in holy larceny.

However the Internal Revenue Service says Bakker and Messner owe personal income taxes from the 1980s when they were building their Praise The Lord empire reported the Charlotte Observer. The IRS assessed the taxes after revoking the PTL ministry’s nonprofit status, said Roe Messner, Tammy Faye’s husband since 1993.

Tammy Faye Messner new husband said Jim Bakker and his former wife didn’t want to talk about the tax issues. “We don’t want to stir the pot,” Messner said. He said the original tax amount was about $500,000. Penalties and interest account for the rest of the bill. The notices reinstating the liens list “James O. and Tamara F. Bakker” as owing $3 million.

On his website, Jim Bakker is still being a parasite, living off money that he steals from others, stating:

Dear Internet Friend,

It’s not an accident that you have come to this page on this website at this critical hour in the life of this ministry!

Lori and I thank you for your meaningful support. Even Moses had the help of faithful loved ones who held up his arms to steady him at a critical hour in his ministry (Exodus 17:12).

We need you today to hold up our arms, to steady us at this exciting hour in the life of this growing and vital outreach. My heart is bonded with you and the Apostle Paul who admonished the Saints of God:

He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.

So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.

And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.

– 2 Corinthians 9:6-8, NKJ

I need your help right now! Think it not strange that you are reading these words from my heart at this very moment, “online”! Your obedience to God’s leading will be a needed breakthrough for us right now.

Would you make a pledge to this ministry for $100?

Bakker, who apparently made all of the financial decisions for the PTL and kept two sets of books to conceal the accounting irregularities, took conspicuous consumption to new extremes. PTL once spent over $100,000 for a private jet to fly the Bakker’s clothing across the country. PTL also spent more than $100 on a purchase of cinnamon rolls because Jim and Tammy wanted the smell of them in their hotel room. “They [Bakkers] epitomized the excesses of the nineteen eighties–the greed, the love of glitz, and the shamelessness–which in their case was so pure as to almost amount to a kind of innocence. “

PTL sold “lifetime memberships” for a $1,000 or more, which entitled buyers to a 3-night stay annually at a luxury hotel in Heritage USA. According to the prosecution at Bakker’s trial, tens of thousands of memberships had been sold, and only one 500-room hotel completed. Bakker had not only sold more “exclusive” partnerships than could be accomodated, but had also raised more than twice the money needed to build the hotel. The Bakker trial revealed that a good deal of the money had gone into operating expenses of Heritage USA, and Bakker kept $3,700,000 for himself. (Frances FitzGerald, “Jim and Tammy,” The New Yorker, April 29, 1990.)

Between 1984 and mid-1987, the Bakkers received annual salaries of $200,000 each and Jim awarded himself over $4 million in bonuses. The Bakkers own, among other things, a $600,000 house in Palm Springs, 4 condos in California, and a Rolls Royce. (“Fresh Out of Miracles,” Newsweek, May 11, 1987 & “TV’s Unholy Row,” Time, Apr 6, 1987.)

The former televangelist preached at Central Assembly of God in Muskegon, Mich., July 30, 2000, Religion News Service reported. It was the first time he had been there in 30 years. “If I’ve ever hurt you, I say please forgive me,” Bakker told the congregation of several hundred people during a two-hour service. “My life was smashed, but Jesus Christ has put me back together again.” Bakker’s grandfather helped start the church in the Depression, and his cousins and their families still attend there.

Jim Bakker nor the Assembly of God with whom he was ordained have never publicly discussed or dealt with the fact that Jim Bakker was Bi-sexual or that his real lover was a man! Although a contrite Jim Bakker returned to his childhood church to ask forgiveness, he never talked about David Taggart his great male lover! Bakker, the founder on the now non existent PTL Club and Village, has downplayed the role of the bisexual evangelist John Wesley Fletcher, who arranged his tryst with Jessica Hahn. He hardly talks about James and David Taggart, the brothers who many claim controlled Bakker in his final PTL years Fletcher was bitter and said Bakker had failed to keep promises and had forsaken him during tough times. Fletcher stated during the “Pearlygate” media storm that he, too, had been sexually involved with bisexual Bakker, reported Christianity Today.

So it was not surprising that Tammy Faye Bakker ( now Messner), who divorced Bakker, would have a prominent role in the gay pride festivities in Washington in June 2002. The former televangelist was to judge a Tammy Faye look-alike contest, appear at a fund-raising dinner and speak from the main stage of the Capital Pride 2002 street festival.

There are those who believe that Tammy Faye is really a drag queen. Once adored by viewers of the electronic church, Messner now appears at gay-pride events nationwide, such as a Tammy Faye look-alike contest held in Washington, D.C., recently where, according to National Public Radio, she was “surrounded by men in falsies and pancake makeup and…impossible to upstage.”

“I’m just trying to give back to them,” she says. “I…tell them there’s a God who loves them and cares for them. I told them there’s a better way out…that nothing can give you peace except Jesus.” Messner does not specifically address the issue of homosexuality being a sin when she talks to groups of gays. “I leave that up to the Holy Spirit because unless He speaks to them, they won’t change anyway,” she said.

But Tammy Faye’s former husband, Assembly of God Evangelist Jim Bakker, the founder on the now non existent PTL Club and Village, has downplayed the role of the bisexual evangelist John Wesley Fletcher, who arranged his tryst with Jessica Hahn. He hardly talks about James and David Taggart, the brothers who many claim controlled Bakker in his final PTL years or that David Taggart was his lover and gave him blow jobs.

Fletcher was bitter and said Bakker had failed to keep promises and had forsaken him during tough times. Fletcher stated during the “Pearlygate” media storm that he, too, had been sexually involved with bisexual Bakker, reported Christianity Today

Bakker, former head of PTL Ministries and Heritage USA, served five years in federal prison on fraud charges. He has spoken about confession of sins, forgiveness, and reconciliation for the last two years in churches around the country, RNS reported. Bakker’s wife, Tammy Faye, divorced him while he was in prison and married his best friend, Roe Messner. Bakker, who remarried about two years ago, is starting a ministry in Florida for children from inner cities.

At times in prison “I felt like God had left me,” Bakker said. “That’s the real problem with prosperity teaching,” a cornerstone in his television days. “If God comes to you when you prosper, do you think he will walk away when you are poor?” he asked. “There’s a lot of false doctrine going around, and I was preaching a lot of it.”

Jim Bakker and clan were also on Larry King Live on May 30, 2000 spewing out their form of Christianity. It was a three ring circus of fools. Bakker’s son said he was ” angry that people do not allow preachers to be human.” Bakker even presented a bible as a gift to Larry King’s wife.

Bakker and Messner said they had made up with each other after the collapse of the ministry and their divorce. “I don’t blame Tammy Faye for going on with her life,” and divorcing him after he was sentenced to 45 years in prison for fraud, Bakker said. Messner said she had forgiven Bakker for having an affair, said he had not deserved to go to prison, and called him “a very good man.”

Bakker was out of prison and sometimes preaches. He said his faith grew during five years in prison, which he calls “the greatest training and seminary and intimate relation with God that I ever could have had.” “I’m just grateful to God that we’re still alive and that Jim’s happy and I’m happy,” Messner said. The Bakkers’ two children, Tammy Sue Chapman and Jay Bakker, also were on the program.

Jim Bakker, former president and founder of PTL, and Richard Dortch, former executive vice president, both served prison terms for fraud convictions that resulted from a failed “Lifetime Partnerships” project for a hotel at Heritage USA. Both men have since returned to active ministry endeavors-Dortch in Tampa, Fla., and Bakker in Los Angeles and Charlotte, N.C.

Bakker, was convicted in 1989 of defrauding 116,000 followers who sent him at least $1,000 each in return for promised lodging at his religious/recreational complex, Heritage USA near Charlotte, N.C. During his trial, prosecutors said the scheme brought about $158 million into the Praise the Lord television ministry that Bakker and his former wife, Tammy Faye, founded in 1972.

Bakker helped dedicate the 10,000-seat Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland, Florida in 1985. The Straders went through a major split of Carpenter’s Home Church in 1989 when the Straders refused to relinquish the financial control they had on the ministry, the church and its assets.

After getting out from prison Baker once spoke at Carpenter’s Home church and said Strader’s wife, Joyce, wrote him a letter once a week while he was in prison. I was one of those who helped him build PTL,” said Karl Strader, “and I never did know what he did wrong, frankly. And if he did do something wrong, I forgive him, and I know everybody else here forgives him,” said Strader.

Karl Strader was being generous with Jim Bakker for he too wanted absolution from these sins and crimes and those of his family. His oldest son Daniel, 37, was arrested, tried and sentenced to 45 years in prison in August 1995. He was convicted of 238 felony counts for bilking 57 mostly elderly investors, some members of the church, out of $2.3 million by selling investments in properties that didn’t exist or already had liens against them. Dan’s specialty was to pray with and prey on his victims with the help of his father.

It is to be noted that Richard Dortch, a former Assembly of God district superintendent and vice president of the PTL Club, who paid Jessica Hahn off to buy her silence, led a campaign to raise $52,000 for the defense of Dan Strader but not a penny for any of Dan’s victims. In response to all of this Paul Humphries wrote to the author and stated:

“See, you do expect too much from our preachers and their family. You think a lil’ ole raping and plundering and driving people to murder is wrong. You’ve got to lighten up, the lord allows for preachers to twist and change the commandments or even selectively choose which commandments are apt for that particular time and place.

Since people are people, you can’t expect them to follow all the commandments do you? Since you can’t follow all of them even part of the time, then to hell with all of them, don’t follow any of them……..of course tell the sheep to follow every one of them.”

While Jeffrey K. Hadden, professor of sociology at the University of Virginia at Charlottesville, and Anson Shupe in their book Televangelism: Power & Politics On God’s Frontier wrote:

There were many significant underlying themes to give the PTL scandal a cheap theatrical appeal guaranteed to keep it in the news for months. The 1987 unholy wars of televangelism brought together most of the leading figures in syndicated religious programming. Even Robert Schuller, whose theology is light years and Crystal Cathedral a continent away from the Bakker action, became involved early on when PTL counselor Norman Roy Grutman commented that people who live in glass houses should not cast stones-seemingly implicating Schuller as a culprit in the alleged “hostile takeover.”

The first and grandest theme tying all the other subplots together was the fairy-tale life of the central characters themselves. The main scene for most of the action was a fantasy world called Heritage USA, which Jim and Tammy Faye created from the dimes and dollars of those who sent their savings and Social Security checks. The sad part of the Bakker fairy tale began on March 19 when a tearful Jim told his television audience how a very mean man was about to usurp Jim and Tammy’s kingdom. The ammunition possessed by this mean man (who was shortly to be identified as televangelist Jimmy Swaggart) was information about an itty-bitty affair Jim Bakker had had with a church secretary years before.

A second significant subplot in this unholy religious soap involved evidence of personal misconduct, mismanagement, and pillaging of the PTL treasury. Thus, there were two dimensions to the scandal: the Bakkers’ personal “moral” lives, and their mismanagement and misuse of Heritage USA resources. And just when it seemed that all the sordid details had oozed out, new disclosures and allegations of offenses emerged.

In the beginning, there was only the sexual indiscretion, when Jim Bakker, in a moment of mental exhaustion and loneliness, succumbed to the advances of a young seductress. The way Bakker told the story to Jerry Falwell, he was so ashamed that he became impotent and was unable to consummate the liaison. The hush money he paid to the woman, a church secretary, was for the sake of the PTL ministry, Bakker said.

Within hours, newspaper reporters were in hot pursuit of tips about other alleged incidents of personal misconduct. Lots of people were talking, but nobody wanted to speak on the record.

Then, on the eve of a meeting of the newly constituted PTL board headed by Jerry Falwell at Heritage USA, rumors suggested that Jim and Tammy Faye might return to retake possession of their fiefdom, and this prospect led the Reverend John Ankerberg, host of a debate format TV show broadcast from Chattanooga, Tennessee, to tell what he knew.

Ankerberg used first “The Larry King Show,” then “Nightline,” to talk generally about the sexual escapades, the mismanagement of PTL resources, and the exorbitant salaries and bonuses paid to the Bakkers and their closest cronies. Ankerberg was not explicit, but he told enough to intrigue the media. After six weeks of intensive investigative reporting, the alleged details out-Gantryed Elmer Gantry: infidelity, homosexuality, prostitution, alcoholism, even wife-swapping among top managers at PTL.

While confessing that all have sinned and come short of the glory of the kingdom of God, the Bakkers were not about to answer the litany of allegations. “Ninety-nine percent of what they [the media] have printed or said about Jim and Tammy Bakker bears no truth whatsoever,” Tammy told a gathering of reporters in April outside their Palm Springs retreat.

The Bakkers declined to meet their accusers. Jerry Falwell offered them that opportunity; so did the elders of the Assemblies of God, which conducted their own inquiry. When Bakker declined to appear before his district presbytery to face charges, the Assemblies of God dismissed him for “conduct unbecoming to a minister.”

Reverend G. Raymond Carlson, general superintendent of the church, said the “alleged misconduct involving bisexual activity” weighed heavily in the decision to unfrock Bakker. Carlson noted further that the word alleged was used because Bakker did not wish to defend himself.

For many people, allegations of misappropriating PTL resources for their own personal use and the payment of huge salaries and bonuses were far more serious charges than the allegations of sexual misconduct.

The Bakkers had appointed a rubber-stamp board of directors to oversee their management practices. In return for acquiescing to Jim and Tammy’s whims, several of these board members received tens of thousands of dollars in fees, bonuses, and contributions to their own projects.

In 1986 the Bakkers were paid $1.9 million; since 1984, a total of $4.8 million had been paid to them. In addition, PTL monies were used for expensive homes, a palatial suite at the Heritage Grand Hotel, automobiles, lavish wardrobes, vacations, and parties.

The Bakkers’ closest associates were privy to their high living at the expense of PTL partners. They, too, were well paid. Reverend Richard Dortch, the Assemblies of God minister who many thought had brought some order and organization to the rapidly growing Heritage USA operations, was paid $240,000 in 1985 and $350,000 in 1986. He received approximately $270,000 during the first three months of 1987 before Falwell sacked him. David Taggart, a twenty-nine-year-old “personal aide” to Bakker, received $360,000 in 1986; Jim Bakker’s personal secretary received $160,000.

And then there were “consultants.” James Taggart, interior decorator and David Taggart’s brother, was paid $10,000 a month, but, according to the new PTL management, he had performed no services “for months.”‘ Peter B. Teeley, press secretary to George Bush until 1984, was paid $120,000 for eighteen months to serve as a Washington “liaison”; apparently there were no written records of any services performed.

Assembly of God Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart, had been accused of complicity in the “diabolical plot” to take over the Bakker ministry by Jim Bakker. Swaggart said that he had initiated a church inquiry into Bakker’s personal conduct, but that it was “absurd and ridiculous” to suggest that he wanted to take over PTL.

He also stated ” I’m ashamed, I’m embarrassed. The gospel of Jesus Christ has never sunk to such a level as it has today. We’ve got a dear brother in Tulsa, Oklahoma, perched up in a tower telling people that if they don’t send money that God’s going to kill him, then we got this soap opera being carried out live down in South Carolina all in the name of God. (. Jeffrey A. Frank and Lloyd Grove, “The Raging Battles Of the Evangelicals,” Washington Post, March 25, 1987.)

In an interview on “The Larry King Show,” Swaggart claimed that Bakker’s downfall represented a “very glad day, because this cancer has been excised that I feel has caused the body of Christ untold reproach. ‘ ( Associated Press, “Swaggart Calls Bakker ‘Cancer’ of Christ,” The Daily Progress (Charlottesville, Virginia), March 25, 1987.)

These comments aroused Oral Roberts’s ire, and he blasted Swaggart while defending Bakker. Foolish Oral Roberts forgave and defended Jim Bakker for something that was not forgivable. God does not forgive those who rob, rape and murder in the house of God as Eli and his two sons were not forgiven. Something that is in the very bible that they sometime use and is true.

Oral Roberts forgave his friend, Jim Bakker, for robbing and raping in the house of God. Roberts made large contributions to the Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry of Jim and Tammy Bakker when they fell into hard times during the 1987 scandal. (Sara Diamond, Spiritual Warfare (Boston, MA: South End Press, 1989). Then he wondered why the City of Faith of faith was not finished, the law school was not accredited and ORU incurred a 40 million dollar debt. (Robert’s aides confirmed annual donations of $58 million in 1986, but the Association’s Internal Revenue Service returns show that the organization has been losing money steadily since 1986)

Jim Bakker always felt that people were conspiring against him-especially journalists, politicians and judges. It was reported in Christianity Today in an article by Terry Mattingly’s religion column for 12/04/96.

” After the 1987 collapse of his empire, he said he had been betrayed by other televangelists. “I sorrowfully acknowledge that seven years ago … I was wickedly manipulated by treacherous former friends and colleagues who victimized me with the aid of a female confederate,” he said. “They conspired to betray me into a sexual encounter at a time of great stress in my marital life. … I was set up as part of a scheme to co-opt me and obtain some advantage for themselves over me in connection with their hope for position in the ministry.”

In other words, the first domino at PTL was a scheme that preceded Bakker’s 1980 sexual liaison with Jessica Hahn, a conspiracy within his inner circle that preceded “Pearlygate.” Yet Bakker has nothing new to say about these “friends and colleagues” and their scheme. In particular, he downplays the role of the bisexual evangelist John Wesley Fletcher, who arranged the tryst with Hahn, and he hardly mentions James and David Taggart, the brothers who many claim controlled Bakker in his final PTL years.

In his book, Bakker confesses many sins. He repents of his “health and wealth” theology, saying he sinfully twisted scripture. He offers 647 pages of near-stream-of-consciousness details about lessons he learned during his trial, divorce and prison years. But he continues to avoid some questions.

“For most Pentecostal and charismatic people, the most serious questions about Jim Bakker were all those allegations of moral misconduct. … People haven’t forgotten that,” said historian Vinson Synan of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va. “There does appear to have been a kind of subterranean, homosexual world inside PTL that has never been fully described. That’s where so many questions remain.”

Mind you Jerry Falwell did conspire against Jim Bakker. By 1987 Jerry Falwell Ministries had reached its peak but Jerry Falwell wanted more. Jim Bakker then owned the largest Christian television network in the world known as the PTL Network, being based in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yet what was called “A Hostile Takeover of the PTL Network” was being formulated.

That year, Jerry Falwell and his then attorney entered the home of PTL founders Jim and Tammy Bakker stating they had evidence of a Hostile Takeover of the PTL Network. The person Falwell accused of planning the Hostile Takeover of the PTL Network was none other than the only man in the world with a larger ministry than Jerry Falwell. Falwell convinced Jim and Tammy Bakker that if they would turn over the PTL Network to him for a time he would protect PTL from the Hostile Takeover.

In Jim Bakker’s book entitled, “I WAS WRONG”, in Chapter 7 … the chapter labeled “THE HOSTILE TAKEOVER”, Bakker stated that “there was indeed a Hostile Takeover being planned for the PTL Network, but it wasn’t being orchestrated in the offices of Jimmy Swaggart in Baton Rouge, Louisanna. Jim Bakker goes on to point out that it was Jerry Falwell who had designs on PTL. Richard Dortch, was Jim Bakker’s right hand man on the PTL Network. Richard Dortch stated on the Late Steve Brown Show that “if Jerry Falwell would just admit that he tried to get the PTL Network … it was a bad choice on my part … please forgive me … it would send out a breath of fresh air in the body of Christ”. Jim Bakker’s wife Tammy, who has now remarried, has stated repeatedly how Falwell’s actions in the PTL situation has caused untold harm to her family. Jim Bakker even went to prison for years. Jimmy Swaggart made an appeal to have Jim Bakker relieved from his prison sentence after receiving a phone call from Jim Bakker’s son, Jamie. {That is in Bakker’s book as well.}”

“Jim Bakker’s Grahams’ Connection

As his fellow evangelists seemed to take their turns facing justified criticism, Billy Graham maintained his own integrity and the sincerity of his message. Far from publicly condemning his peers, Billy spoke of them with concern, and even visited Jim Bakker in prison. When his Crusades would generate more offerings than he had anticipated, both Billy and Ruth gave their share to needy organizations. As for his own efforts to integrate television into his ministry, Billy hosted a half-hour weekly program in 1951 but discontinued it a few years later because of the immense commitment of time it required. Afterwards he telecast his Crusades but never again tried a weekly program.

(The Grahams are no different from Jim Bakker. They are liars; deceivers and thieves who claim to have integrity but are false. The Grahams are also scoundrels and money lovers who will not reveal their total compensations as chairmen’s of non-profit organization. Of course as parasites they have not worked in the private sector but have lived off the tax-free donations of others. )

On the Graham family Jim Bakker stated – Franklin came to prison over and over again to see me. He wrote me every month. The funny thing is, when he’d come I’d ask him to teach and preach in the chapel. I didn’t want to just have him to myself in the visiting room. And the chaplain always would say to him, “Now don’t give an invitation to accept Christ and don’t admit you know Jim Bakker.” He broke the rules every time, both of them. You know when you’re down in prison and Franklin comes and says, “Jim Bakker’s my friend,” it would just elevate my life for that moment. And then he’d give an invitation to accept Christ, and guys would come to the Lord.

When I was transferred to my last prison, Franklin said he wanted to help me out when I got out-with a job, a house to live in, and a car. It was my fifth Christmas in prison. I thought it over and said, “Franklin, you can’t do this. It will hurt you. The Grahams don’t need my baggage.” He looked at me and he said, “Jim, you were my friend in the past and you are my friend now. If anyone doesn’t like it, I’m looking for a fight.”

So when I got out of prison the Grahams sponsored me and paid for a house for me to live in and gave me a car to drive. The first Sunday out, Ruth Graham called the halfway house I was living in at the Salvation Army and asked permission for me to go to the Montreat Presbyterian Church with her that Sunday morning. When I got there, the pastor welcomed me and sat me with the Graham family. There were like two whole rows of them-I think every Graham aunt and uncle and cousin was there. The organ began playing and the place was full except for a seat next to me. Then the doors opened and in walked Ruth Graham. She walked down that aisle and sat next to inmate 07407-058. I had only been out of prison 48 hours, but she told the world that morning that Jim Bakker was her friend.

Afterwards, she had me up to their cabin for dinner. When she asked me for some addresses, I pulled this envelope out of my pocket to look for them-in prison you’re not allowed to have a wallet, so you just carry an envelope. She asked, “Don’t you have a wallet?” And I said, “Well, yeah, this is my wallet.” After five years of brainwashing in prison you think an envelope is a wallet. She walked into the other room and came back and said, “Here’s one of Billy’s wallets. He doesn’t need it. You can have it.” It reminded me of the time I was in prison when she took all of Billy’s Bibles in his library he wasn’t using and gave them to me to give to other inmates.

On Larry King live in the fall of 1998 Southern Baptist Evangelist Billy Graham was insulted when he was compared with TV Evangelists such as Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and their sex scandals. Billy Graham said that he did not do those things which Jim Bakker or Jim Swaggart did – a statement that turned out to be a lie! For Ned Graham’s own son turned out to be no different than Jim Bakker.

Even though a President of an Evangelical Ministry must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, and not greedy for money, Ned Graham the son of Billy Graham, Southern Baptist minister, president East Gates International, a group that distributes Bibles in China told Christianity Today in an interview that he had abused alcohol and spent an “inappropriate amount of time” with two women on his staff.

Grace Community Church, Southern Baptist Convention, in Auburn, Washington–which counted Ned Graham, his wife, and their two sons as members established in 1999 the fact that Ned Graham was an adulterer, alcoholic, wife abuser, and drug user and revoked Graham’s ministerial credentials. It directed Graham to stop using the title reverend.

Yet in a style reminiscent of Jimmy Swaggart, who refused to be defrocked by the Assembly of God denomination, Ned Graham left that congregation for another church.

Most of the staff and board members of East Gates International resigned amid controversies. East Gates, in Sumner, Wash., withdrew its membership in the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability after Ned replaced the board members with his sister Ruth Graham McIntyre, brother-in-law Stephan Tchividjian, and business leader Peter Lowe.

Christianity Today founded by Billy Graham did not report on one of its own pastors Ollin Collins of Harvest Baptist Church in Fort Worth, and Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary’s board chairman. A man who resigned amid sexual misconduct allegations when he was accused of having sexual relationships with two women who sought counseling.

But it did report about the adultery of a black man and a National Baptist but not about the adultery of a white man and Southern Baptist. An adultery which was more hideous and gross because Collins raped unsuspecting trusting women, while Lyons adulterous relationships were consensual. It has been said that Lyons will go down in the history books as “Hugh Hefner of the New Testament.” “http://headlines.yahoo.com/Full_Coverage/US/Henry_Lyons

“Now concerning the fallen hero, the church had suspended Pastor Collins with pay pending an investigation. He resigned from his board position one day after a story in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported the women’s allegations and their intent to sue. Southwestern is the world’s largest evangelical seminary, with 3,000 students on eight campuses.

But of course neither the Seminary nor the Church did nothing for the real female victims but they did help and console the aggressor? Just like Billy Graham stated about Bill Clinton “I forgive him . . . because I know the frailty of human nature, and especially a strong, vigorous young man like he is. “He has such a tremendous personality that I think the ladies just go wild over him.”

While Jeffrey K. Hadden, professor of sociology at the University of Virgina at Charlottesville, and Anson Shupe in their book Televangelism: Power & Politics On God& Ch 1: Getting Saved from the Televangelists wrote:

The first and grandest theme tying all the other subplots together was the fairy-tale life of the central characters themselves. The main scene for most of the action was a fantasy world called Heritage USA, which Jim and Tammy Faye created from the dimes and dollars of those who sent their savings and Social Security checks. The sad part of the Bakker fairy tale began on March 19 when a tearful Jim told his television audience how a very mean man was about to usurp Jim and Tammy’s kingdom.

The ammunition possessed by this mean man (who was shortly to be identified as televangelist Jimmy Swaggart) was information about an itty-bitty affair Jim Bakker had had with a church secretary years before. Details of the takeover plot unfolded gradually; Swaggart was about to blow the whistle on Bakker to the church elders of the Assemblies of God Church.

This would lead to an investigation that would result in Bakker’s being stripped of his ordination. The shame brought by all of this was not deserved, of course (God and Tammy had both forgiven Jim years before). A little-known clause in the Heritage USA charter bequeaths the entire kingdom to the Assemblies of God in the event that Jim and Tammy are not able to reign. Swaggart, being the most powerful preacher in the Assemblies of God alliance, thus would be the one to move in and take over.

A white knight named Jerry Falwell agreed to take the kingdom into custody to protect it from Swaggart’s evil intentions. Two months later, when Bakker advised Falwell that he was ready to return home, Jerry replied, “Not now nor ever.” Jim and Tammy brushed back the tears and told “Nightline’s” Ted Koppel and 23 million Americans- who had stayed up late to see this dramatic episode-how they had been tricked by Falwell.

Bakker now claimed that Falwell, the man from Liberty Mountain, had become a thief in the night rather than a white knight. It was Falwell all along, they said, not the honky-tonk preacher from the Louisiana bayou, Jimmy Swaggart, who was the real villain. Falwell, with his slick-talking New York lawyer, had tricked Jim and Tammy Faye into believing that the only way they could save their kingdom was to relinquish it to Jerry-temporarily.

Exhausted and bewildered, Jim and Tammy Bakker had tearfully given up their magic kingdom with its Rolls-Royces and furs and goldfixtured dressing rooms and presidential suite and credit cards and daily starring roles in their own “Wheel of Fortune.”

Ted Koppel had warned Jim and Tammy at the beginning of the “Nightline” program “not to wrap themselves in the Bible.” By the end of the program, it was Koppel who had been wrapped in the mesmerizing melodramatic tragicomic fantasy the couple had spun.

Playing to Koppel and the huge television audience with words that sounded ever so sweet and loving, Jim Bakker now declared war against Falwell. They just wanted to come home to Heritage USA, but if Jerry Falwell wouldn’t let them, they might start a new Shangri-La in the California desert near their Palm Springs hideaway.

Koppel advised them that this might be difficult in light of reports from Heritage USA that the mail was running overwhelmingly in support of Falwell’s measures to save the spiritual Disneyland. “If the people don’t want us back, if they want Jerry Falwell, then they should support Jerry Falwell,” said an emotional Bakker. “. . . But if they don’t, they should support Jim and Tammy Bakker.”l3 The Bakkers seemed genuinely unable to grasp the reality of the tragedy that had befallen them, to say nothing of its impact on others.

A second significant subplot in this unholy religious soap involved evidence of personal misconduct, mismanagement, and pillaging of the PTL treasury. Thus, there were two dimensions to the scandal: the Bakkers’ personal “moral” lives, and their mismanagement and misuse of Heritage USA resources. And just when it seemed that all the sordid details had oozed out, new disclosures and allegations of offenses emerged.

In the beginning, there was only the sexual indiscretion, when Jim Bakker, in a moment of mental exhaustion and loneliness, succumbed to the advances of a young seductress. The way Bakker told the story to Jerry Falwell, he was so ashamed that he became impotent and was unable to consummate the liaison. The hush money he paid to the woman, a church secretary, was for the sake of the PTL ministry, Bakker said.

Within hours, newspaper reporters were in hot pursuit of tips about other alleged incidents of personal misconduct. Lots of people were talking, but nobody wanted to speak on the record.

Then, on the eve of a meeting of the newly constituted PTL board headed by Jerry Falwell at Heritage USA, rumors suggested that Jim and Tammy Faye might return to retake possession of their fiefdom, and this prospect led the Reverend John Ankerberg, host of a debate format TV show broadcast from Chattanooga, Tennessee, to tell what he knew.

Ankerberg used first “The Larry King Show,” then “Nightline,” to talk generally about the sexual escapades, the mismanagement of PTL resources, and the exorbitant salaries and bonuses paid to the Bakkers and their closest cronies. Ankerberg was not explicit, but he told enough to intrigue the media. After six weeks of intensive investigative reporting, the alleged details out-Gantryed Elmer Gantry: infidelity, homosexuality, prostitution, alcoholism, even wife-swapping among top managers at PTL.

While confessing that all have sinned and come short of the glory of the kingdom of God, the Bakkers were not about to answer the litany of allegations. “Ninety-nine percent of what they [the media] have printed or said about Jim and Tammy Bakker bears no truth whatsoever,” Tammy told a gathering of reporters in April outside their Palm Springs retreat.

The Bakkers declined to meet their accusers. Jerry Falwell offered them that opportunity; so did the elders of the Assemblies of God, which conducted their own inquiry. When Bakker declined to appear before his district presbytery to face charges, the Assemblies of God dismissed him for “conduct unbecoming to a minister.” Reverend G. Raymond Carlson, general superintendent of the church, said the “alleged misconduct involving bisexual activity” weighed heavily in the decision to unfrock Bakker. 15 Carlson noted further that the word alleged was used because Bakker did not wish to defend himself.

For many people, allegations of misappropriating PTL resources for their own personal use and the payment of huge salaries and bonuses were far more serious charges than the allegations of sexual misconduct.

The Bakkers had appointed a rubber-stamp board of directors to oversee their management practices. In return for acquiescing to Jim and Tammy’s whims, several of these board members received tens of thousands of dollars in fees, bonuses, and contributions to their own projects.

In 1986 the Bakkers were paid $1.9 million; since 1984, a total of $4.8 million had been paid to them. In addition, PTL monies were used for expensive homes, a palatial suite at the Heritage Grand Hotel, automobiles, lavish wardrobes, vacations, and parties.

The Bakkers’ closest associates were privy to their high living at the expense of PTL partners. They, too, were well paid. Reverend Richard Dortch, the Assemblies of God minister who many thought had brought some order and organization to the rapidly growing Heritage USA operations, was paid $240,000 in 1985 and $350,000 in 1986. He received approximately $270,000 during the first three months of 1987 before Falwell sacked him. David Taggart, a twenty-nine-year-old “personal aide” to Bakker, received $360,000 in 1986; Jim Bakker’s personal secretary received $160,000.

And then there were “consultants.” James Taggart, interior decorator and David Taggart’s brother, was paid $10,000 a month, but, according to the new PTL management, he had performed no services “for months.”‘ Peter B. Teeley, press secretary to George Bush until 1984, was paid $120,000 for eighteen months to serve as a Washington “liaison”; apparently there were no written records of any services performed.

When the Bakkers departed, the financial records of the organization were in shambles-as they probably had been for years. No fewer than forty-seven separate checking accounts were found in the first days of the Falwell takeover. “The books are a mess,” proclaimed Harry Hargrave, the Dallas-based consultant Falwell hired to become PTL’s new chief executive officer.

Noted Jerry Nims (Falwell’s CEO for the “Old Time Gospel Hour” in Lynchburg), who came in to help dig out, “This was a business organization that was totally out of control. 20 Added Nims, “For these folks, there were no rules. You’re not talking about people nudging over the line. There was absolutely no line…. It was fiscal sin.”

Early on, it appeared that $92 million was missing. As the financial records of Heritage USA were consolidated and audited, much of this money was accounted for, but then evidence of unpaid bills began to grow. By early June, outstanding debts were estimated at $70 million owed to 1,400 creditors, and $23 million of this debt was delinquent.

Independent of the struggle between Jim Bakker and Jerry Falwell was the unsightly scene of other members of the Protestant cloth taking sides and launching verbal missiles at one another. In addition to the principals of the electronic church, there emerged a large cast of walkon characters seeking a moment of glory in front of the camera.

1COR 10:6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.”

COPIED FROM http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/bakker.htm

“Tammy Faye Messner Dies at 65 Unhealed

AP – Sat, 21 Jul 2007

By STEVE HARTSOE

Tammy Faye Messner, who as Tammy Faye Bakker helped her husband, Jim, build a multimillion-dollar evangelism empire and then watched it collapse in disgrace, has died. She was 65.

Messner had battled colon cancer since 1996 that more recently spread to her lungs. She died peacefully Friday at her home near Kansas City, Mo., said Joe Spotts, her manager and booking agent.

A family service was held Saturday in a private cemetery, where her ashes were interred, he said.

She had frequently spoken about her medical problems, saying she hoped to be an inspiration to others. “Don’t let fear rule your life,” she said. “Live one day at a time, and never be afraid.” But she told well-wishers in a note on her Web site in May that the doctors had stopped trying to treat the cancer.

In an interview with CNN’s Larry King two months later, an emaciated Messner — still using her trademark makeup — said, “I believe when I leave this earth, because I love the Lord, I’m going straight to heaven.” Asked if she had any regrets, Messner said: “I don’t think about it, Larry, because it’s a waste of good brain space.”

For many, the TV image of then-Mrs. Bakker forgiving husband Jim’s infidelities, tears streaking her cheeks with mascara, became a symbol for the wages of greed and hypocrisy in 1980s America.

She divorced her husband of 30 years, with whom she had two children, in 1992 while he was in prison for defrauding millions from followers of their PTL television ministries. The letters stood for “Praise the Lord” or “People that Love.”

Jim Bakker said in a statement that his ex-wife “lived her life like the song she sang, ‘If Life Hands You a Lemon, Make Lemonade.'”

“She is now in Heaven with her mother and grandmother and Jesus Christ, the one who she loves and has served from childbirth,” he said. “That is the comfort I can give to all who loved her.”

Messner’s second husband also served time in prison. She married Roe Messner, who had been the chief builder of the Bakkers’ Heritage USA Christian theme park near Fort Mill, S.C., in 1993. In 1995, he was convicted of bankruptcy fraud, and he spent about two years in prison.

Through it all, Messner kept plugging her faith and herself. She did concerts, a short-lived secular TV talk show and an inspirational videotape. In 2004, she cooperated in the making of a documentary about her struggle with cancer, called “Tammy Faye: Death Defying.”

“I wanted to help people … maybe show the inside (of the experience) and make it a little less frightening,” she said.

More recently, Tammy Faye kept in the public eye via her Web site.

“I cry out to the Lord knowing that many of you are praying for me,” Messner wrote in a July 16 post in which she indicated she weighed 65 pounds. “In spite of it all, I get dressed and go out to eat. … I crave hamburgers and french fries with LOTS of ketchup! When I can eat that again, it will be a day of victory!”

In 2004, she appeared on the WB reality show “The Surreal Life,” co-starring with rapper Vanilla Ice, ex-porn star Ron Jeremy and others. She told King in 2004 that she didn’t know who Jeremy was when they met and they became friends.

Messner was never charged with a crime in connection with the Bakker scandal. She said she counted the costs in other ways.

“I know what it’s like to hit rock bottom,” she said in promotional material for her 1996 video “You Can Make It.”

In the mid-1980s, the Bakkers were on top, ruling over a ministry that claimed 500,000 followers. Their “Jim and Tammy Show,” part TV talk show, part evangelism meeting, was seen across the country. Heritage USA boasted a 500-room hotel, shopping mall, convention center, water-amusement park, TV studio and several real-estate developments. PTL employed about 2,000 people.

Then in March 1987, Bakker resigned, admitting he had a tryst with Jessica Hahn, a 32-year-old former church secretary.

Tammy Faye Bakker stuck with her disgraced husband through five stormy years of tabloid headlines as the ministry unraveled.

Prosecutors said the PTL organization sold more than 150,000 “lifetime partnerships” promising lodging at the theme park but did not build enough hotel space with the $158 million in proceeds. At his fraud trial, Jim Bakker was accused of diverting $3.7 million to personal use even though he knew the ministry was financially shaky. Trial testimony showed PTL paid $265,000 to Hahn to cover up the sexual encounter with the minister.

Jim Bakker was convicted in 1989 of 24 fraud and conspiracy counts and sentenced to 45 years. The sentence was later reduced, and he was freed in 1994. He said that his wife’s decision to leave him had been “like a meat hook deep in my heart. I couldn’t eat for days.”

While not charged, his then-wife shared during the 1980s in the public criticism and ridicule over the couple’s extravagance, including the reportedly gold-plated bathroom fixtures and an air-conditioned doghouse.

There was even a popular T-shirt satirizing her image. The shirt read, “I ran into Tammy Faye at the shopping mall,” with the lettering on top of what look like clots of mascara, traces of lipstick and smudges of peach-toned makeup.

In a 1992 letter to her New Covenant Church in Orlando, Fla., she explained why she finally was seeking a divorce.

“For years I have been pretending that everything is all right, when in fact I hurt all the time,” she wrote.

“I cannot pretend anymore.”

In the end, there wasn’t any property to divide, her attorney said. The Bakkers lost their luxury homes in North Carolina, California and Tennessee, their fleet of Cadillacs and Mercedeses, and their vintage Rolls-Royce.

Her autobiography, “I Gotta Be Me,” recounts a childhood as Tammy Faye LaValley, one of eight children of a poor family in International Falls, Minn. Her biological father walked out. She was reticent about her age, but a 2000 profile of her in the Star Tribune of Minneapolis said she was born in March 1942.

She recalled trying eye makeup for the first time, then wiping it off for fear it was the devil’s work. Then she thought again.

“Why can’t I do this?” she asked. “If it makes me look prettier, why can’t I do this?”

She married Bakker in 1961, after they met at North Central Bible College in Minneapolis. Beginning with a children’s puppet act, they created a religious show that brought a fundamentalist Protestant message to millions.

A secular TV talk program, the “Jim J. and Tammy Faye Show” with co-host Jim J. Bullock, lasted just six weeks in early 1996. Shortly after it went off the air, she underwent surgery for colon cancer.

She said afterward that she endured bleeding for a year because she was embarrassed to go to a male doctor. And she wore her makeup even in surgery.

“They didn’t make me take it off,” she said. “I had wonderful doctors and understanding nurses. I went in fully made up and came out fully made up.”

Survivors include her husband and her two children, Jamie Charles Bakker of New York City and Tammy Sue Chapman of Charlotte.

Spotts said that the family is considering a public memorial service for the coming weeks, but that nothing had been finalized Saturday.

Messner divorced televangelist Jim Bakker in 1992, while he was serving a sentence for financial fraud. The couple had founded a Christian retreat in Fort Mill, S.C., and built a multimillion-dollar evangelism empire.”

and here is a lot more sad unacceptable events, acts .. see

BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDREL http://www.scribd.com/doc/17673980/

“BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

PENTECOSTAL THIRD WAVE INCL. LEE GRADY STEVE STRANG PAT ROBERTSON ARE OFF THE WALL http://tl.gd/h9g69g

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June 14, 2009

The really Bad churches..

  
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Now we all do or should by now know there are good and bad churches, led by good or bad pastors, good or bad elders. Reality, Good pastors are Shepherds and  the bad Pastors are hirelings, or prostitutes, dictators?

(John 10:11 KJV)  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15  As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17  Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18  No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

(Prov 27:23 KJV)  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

(Prov 28:2 KJV)  For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged.(Job 7:1 KJV)  Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?

(Job 7:2 KJV)  As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work:

(Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(John 10:12 KJV)  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

(John 10:13 KJV)  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

(Mal 1:6 KJV)  A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?  7  Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the LORD is contemptible.
8  And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts.
9  And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts.
10  Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11  For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
12  But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.

(Mal 2:1 KJV)  And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. 2:2    If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

(Mal 2:17 KJV)  Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

(Mal 3:1 KJV)  Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Ezek 34:2 KJV)    Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3  Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4  The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5  And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
6  My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
7  Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9  Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10  Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11  For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
12  As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
13  And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
14  I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.
15  I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.
16  I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.
17  And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.
18  Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
19  And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.
20  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.
21  Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;
22  Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
23  And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
24  And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
25  And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
26  And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.
27  And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
28  And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.
29  And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
30  Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD.
31  And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

Bad people try to do many things.. if others let them do it as well..
 
Bad pastors, bad elders continue to exist  cause likely the congregation is bad too.  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

May 9, 2009

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April 13, 2009

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(Luke 17:33 KJV)  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

(2 Tim 4:18 KJV)  And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

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March 6, 2009

People need to stop lying, to others, themselves

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Narcissistic, selfish, self centered Mental Disorders too evident now even in many of the so called Professionals even bad pastors, leaders leads these persons to dwell in self-absorption, fantasy, illusion, where she or he has exaggerated claims to talents, importance, or specialness, manifesting evidence of a need for constant admiration from others, a lack of empathy for all others, persistent in this too, have rigid personality traits and coping styles, clearly inflexible, do show a hypersensitivity to any criticism , defeat or negative realities thus they rather are pathological in denial by the their falsity, contrived replacement of the truths which they still must face eventually . These SEVERE PERSONALITY disorders are generally personally ongoing too leading to more impaired social and/or occupational functioning and can make it difficult to pinpoint a clear dividing line between their pathology and their so called normality. Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too.

Again false Denial, it is very  common when many an individual, even amongst so called professionals, even in pastors now included, are openly confronted with their own wrong doings, that they resort to a false denial. When confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on a false assumption of one’s past great success and often precedes their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. Illustrated fully by the story of the Emperor with new clothes.

False Denial (also called abnegation) is a often defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence, a mechanism of the immature mind that conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. The subject may now deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly related to the denial of one’s addiction to alcohol for example, or to one slandering others, abusing them stealing, lying.. their denial or their minimization of their own wrong doings is the essential part of what enables them next to to continue his or her behavior in the face of evidence that, to an outsider, that is overwhelming. “The American Heart Association cites denial as a principal reason that treatment of a heart attack is delayed. Because the symptoms are so varied, and often have other potential explanations, the opportunity exists for the patient to deny the emergency, often with fatal consequences. It is common for patients to delay mammograms or other tests because of a fear of cancer, even though this is clearly maladaptive.”

Types of Denial include now Denial of fact: This form of denial is where someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details in order to tailor a story (omission), This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by blaming, minimizing or justifying. Denial of responsibility: Denial of impact: avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others. Denial of awareness: they do not admit any previous awareness of the negative reality. Denial of cycle: Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. Denial of denial: This latter form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. People in a false denial are really nuts, delusional..

There are tools and practices that we can implement to overcome the psychological trap of anyone’s false denial. The Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty is one of the best approach serving everyone’s best interest too.

It is also a clearly established fact with good basis as to why our leaders, politicians, police, military, public and civil servants and all Christians they who are always to be exemplary are even personally are to held to a higher standard, accountability in reality. God said so

1 Timothy 1: 4..that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. 5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust

Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain

James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell

8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

There are so many childish, unloving, dogmatic, slanderous person, arrogant, pretend Christians who take one truth and now falsely do try to push it down other people’s throats, and they do falsely believe they are better than other persons now cause they have hold of one truth. Now if you do not agree with them, dare to oppose them they will go crazy on you. calling you slanderous names, insulting you, falsely attacking you personally, trying to attack you as being immoral, demonic, an antichrist or what ever as they are in false denial to the real truth and why? their pride will not let them admit they have been deceivers and have been deceived.. .. these bad, ignorant clearly unloving, Holy Spirit ignorant too persons they really should not even be on the net preaching to others till they get matured, wiser. They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness.   as they can no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too..  A false Denial, it is very very common when confronted with the truth. When challenged or confronted with the truth now  as still not  everyone can handle negative  criticism, negative reality positively, so many next immediately tend to respond in false very negative manners  and can even resort to a personal attack on you, even calling you slanderous names, lying about you, insulting you,  Fogging  the issue with unrelated information, nonsense, or just incomprehensible gibberish and thus  showing still rather more to all as to what they are really like.  When confronted with the truth the denier can  often respond with their false denial, false diversion, deceptions. The defensive, false opponent  tries to discredit you falsely  by even falsely calling  your motives and methods into question, resorting  to a personal attack on you, calling you slanderous names, insulting  you… et cetera all done just  to try to make you look bad, immoral, incompetent , unreasonable, unnecessary, dishonest,   to the community. When confronted with the truth the denier they often also respond with a statement even like you are crazy, nuts.  This   unrepentant opponents can get very nasty very quickly too and often and can  immediately work at discrediting you by all and any means .Your opponent undeniably, clearly is trying to make you look bad.  Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the truth about themselves still .  Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative aspect of what they themselves  still are like .. And now the problem about these ostriches in false denial,  about their  lying is that they had next tend to falsely start to believe their own  lies, they do  become now a mental, a basket case..  Again false Denial, it is very very common when confronted with the truth and the Deception respond is low-minded; but it is also, unfortunately, an all-too-common occurrence in the lives of many bad  people .False Denial as to who they really are now by the people who really do delude themselves too often about their self importance and the positive role they are functioning in is very common, a daily occurrence. How to respond ? Let the public honestly, openly know what has occurred. There are two reasons for this: first,  by going public, you are helping the public get a positive, clearer view of the reality as well as a realistic negative view of your bad opponent. Second, the truth can only help  everyone, the unrepentant person included..  Open rebuke here too now  is better over secret love.. The Public exposures of the unrepentant wicked serves everyone one’s best interests. .

Admittedly it is sad, but still the truth that Most people still are not in total touch with reality.. cause they are being lied to or cause they lie and start to believe their own lies.

Most people are also still Ostriches in denial, they have  glamorous versions of the reality, a distorted one, a spin, one they use to force  themselves not to deal with the reality  or to have to  think about the reality  negatively.. for not surprisingly since  the average person now  lies 3 times every 10 minutes.. and too  too often  even the news reporters, politicians, professionals  falsely object to the telling of the negative truths, realties  as it  would be bad for their business, careers  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/08/06/but-you-know-that-already /

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 But let me still  tell you 2 things about telling lies:

a: we tend to believe our own lies, funny how that is, say it often enough and you yourself start to be live the lie as the truth when it is still a lie.. and

b: the more you do now lie to yourself the crazier, the more insane you yourself do  become even if you may not admit it, or now  be aware of it… eventually you become totally loony as a result, a far grasp from reality. I have seen many a persons go there now too.

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(James 1:26 KJV)  If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.

(James 1:17 KJV)  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

(Col 3:9 KJV)  Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

(1 Tim 1:9 KJV)  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10    For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
(Titus 1:12 KJV)  One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
(Rev 2:2 KJV)  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
(Rev 21:8 KJV)  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

(1 John 1:10 KJV)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

(Job 13:4 KJV)  But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
(Isa 28:17 KJV)  Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
(Hosea 10:13 KJV)  Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.
(Nahum 3:1 KJV)  Woe to the bloody city! it is all full of lies and robbery; the prey departeth not;
(Hab 2:18 KJV)  What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
(John 8:44 KJV)  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(John 8:45 KJV)  And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
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What does the Bible say about Lying?
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There is a plague that is grieving the heart of God because it is preventable and can be stopped. It has spread among all churches and is particularly rampant in society. Even God’s ministers are not immune and many of them are infected with it.
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What is this evil plague? You may be surprised as it appears rather harmless at first glance. It is now so commonplace that people are deceived into just accepting it as normal, instead of recognizing and resisting it. This epidemic is the practice of lying and dishonesty.
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What does the Bible say about lying? A lying tongue is not only something God hates, it is also something that is an abomination to Him.
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Proverbs 6:16-19 says, “These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”
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Examples of Dishonesty
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As the moral climate of our society has been deteriorating, lying has become a major problem. The business world is particularly plagued by this problem–men’s dishonesty with each other, meetings “forgotten”, company theft, promises not kept, contracts broken, etc. Lawyers have increased in numbers over the last decade, mainly because of irresponsibility and broken contracts among men due to lying. A news organization recently did a survey here in America and asked people several questions to determine the percentage of people who lied or were dishonest about things. Some of the questions were:
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Do you cheat on your Income Tax Return?
Do you compliment people when you really don’t mean it?
Do you tell your spouse to tell callers you are not at home when you there?
Do you tell “little white lies” if it will keep you out of trouble?
Do you tell creditors that “the check is in the mail” when you have not yet mailed it?
Do you exaggerate in repeating things you have heard?
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The results of this survey determined that 90% of Americans are not truthful under certain circumstances. This is understandable when we look at the morals of our society but what about Christians? Have they fallen into the habit of lying also? Also, what constitutes a lie according to the Bible? Anything that is not the truth is a lie and God’s Word the Bible tells us what is truth. The Bible is the standard or measuring rod we must use in determining truth. Sadly, Christians are also succumbing to this epidemic of lying. Lying to each other has now become so commonplace, Christians too, have become liars.
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The Father of Lies
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Have you been lied to lately? Was it another Christian that lied to you? A minister perhaps? Each of us have had our trust in people undermined, or in some cases even destroyed because of lies. We would all agree that lying is an ugly evil. The Bible tells us that lying began with the devil and that he is the father of lies.
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John 8:43-47 says, “Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.”
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The Bible is filled with admonitions against being dishonest and lying. One of the Ten Commandments states:
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“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.” Exodus 20:16
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Before we point our finger at another for being a liar that we feel God needs to deal with, let us examine our own lives to see if we are infected with the same disease. What kind of witness are we to those around us? Are we deceived and have we become liars ourselves? Let us first give a definition as to what a lie is according to Webster’s dictionary:
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1.) To make a statement that one knows is false, especially with the intent to deceive.
2.) To give a false impression or action or false statement, especially with the intent to deceive.
3.)To make a false statement in order to evade the truth.
4.)The invention of a false story or excuse in order to deceive.
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Perhaps for a Christian, a Biblical definition of lying could be summed up in this statement:
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Any time our word does not agree with God’s Word.
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In Numbers 23:19 the Bible says, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
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When we do not keep our word we are guilty of lying. Over the last year I have lost track of the number of times Christians have failed to keep their word to me. I am not angry or resentful or bitter over this, as the Lord has worked those attitudes out of my life. I have learned to take every offense to Him in prayer and He then removes any personal ill I might have and He gives me a forgiving and gracious attitude toward others. However, since I began to notice how many of God’s people were not keeping their word, I received a prayer burden of intercession for this evil to be removed from God’s people.
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I first began praying about my own life and ask God to expose any areas where I might be guilty of this sin. I have tried to obey Romans 12:17-21 which says, “Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”
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Most of the time I would just forgive these lying offences and would just pray for them and try to “live peaceably with all men.” However, in prayer, the Lord spoke to my heart that I must go one step further and “speak the truth in love” to my brothers and sisters if I truly loved them.
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Ephesians 4:15-16 says, “But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.”
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If we, as the body of Christ, are to mature and grow up we must conform to the truth which is Jesus. The devil is behind every lie and as Christians we are admonished not to lie to one another.
C.olossians 3:9-10 says, “Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him.”
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Two Roots of Dishonesty
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The two main reasons we lie are usually rooted in either fear or pride. Fear is the first reason. We are afraid of the consequences if we tell the truth. Yielding to fear shows a lack of trust in God to take care of the situation. If we yield to God and do it His way He will usually give us favor with those that we fear. The other reason is pride. We are prideful and concerned about what men will think of us (desiring man’s approval instead of God’s approval.)
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Jesus always kept His Word. God still keeps His Word and is faithful to keep every promise He makes in the Bible. That is why He is reliable and we can trust Him. We are called to be like Him. The Bible says that out of a man’s mouth proceeds what is in His heart. If we tell lies or fib then it means that we need a heart cleansing.
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Matthew 15:18-20a says, “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man…”
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We need to ask God to cleanse our hearts and begin reading and studying the Bible so that His Word resides in our hearts. As we keep His Word and water it with prayer it will produce good fruit in our lives. Lying is not only speaking an untruth; another form of lying is not keeping our word to others.
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Luke 8:15 says, “But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.”
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Little “White” Lies
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Let us look at some specific ways the devil gets us to lie. We will expose some of his devices. These sorts lies are being practiced by many Christians. Now remember, we are guilty of lying when we do not keep our word. Even if these sorts of lies seem harmless and don’t appear to really hurt anyone else, they are harmful to our own souls. The more we practice telling untruths of any kind, the duller our concience becomes.
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1.) “I will call you back tomorrow.” (This excuse is often used with a deliberate intent to decieve. The person does not call back at the appointed time and will call back at a much later date with excuses of why they were unable to call which usually goes something like: “I just was so busy, I meant to call , but did not get around to it.” We all have been guilty of this, but we need to realize when we say we will do something we need to keep our word. We do understand there are legitimate reasons that make it impossible at times to keep our word. This is not the case we are referring to here. It would be better to not make this promise or to say, “I will try to call you back tomorrow.”)
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2.) “I will be happy to do that for you.” (Whatever promise was made, it was not kept and their word about the matter causes them not to be trusted. The Holy Spirit is trying to purge this lack from His people and is using a group of men known as “Promise Keepers” to help restore trustworthiness back in the heads of families by stressing that they need to keep their promises.)
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We could list numerous examples but these two cover a lot of territory; any time we say the words “I will” we need to be responsible to do it. We all, on occasion, fail to do the things we have good intentions of doing or we are hindered in some way and can’t do them. However, if we are unable to keep an appointment we should be thoughtful enough to call and cancel, or tell of our delayed arrival. We are living in an age when there are so many uncaring attitudes expressed. As Christians, we can be good witnesses by being different.
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One of the biggest faults of many Christians, and our society as well, is that we tend to over-commit and then we are unable to keep our word. It is disheartening to see this shift prevalent in businesses. They commit to the jobs, then, are not able to produce them on time and thus the standard for business practices is shifting to not expecting them on time. Business people must now factor in lengthy time delays just to compensate for people’s lack of business ethics.
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People that tend to over commit sometimes have a pride problem and are people pleasers. They want people to like them so they offer to do things for them, and because they are unable to keep their promises to all they end up not being able to keep their word; thus they are dishonest. In business it is usually greed that tends to cause them to over commit. They want more business and more money, even when they must work from a backlog that was promised timely.
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As Christians we need to ask the Lord to forgive us if we are guilty of lying or deceit. It is a very serious matter with God when we lie. (We can read of the incident of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts chapter 5 in the Bible. They both fell dead when they lied to the Holy Spirit.)
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The Bible also lists this sin of lying as one that can lead us to hell along with some other grievous ones.Revelation 21:7-8 says, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
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We can be overcomers through the power of the Holy Spirit as we seek to be like Jesus. We not only do not want to lie, but we also want to keep our word so that people know we are honest and trustworthy. As Christians, we want to represent our Father well in this life and be honest and free from fabrication and fibbing.
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This article was taken from the Overcoming Life Digest (Jan./Feb. 1998 Issue); 
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Note all sin if not stopped  tends to escalate in one’s life, lying included
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WHO IS IT THAT NEVER LIES?
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The answer to this question might be a threefold one. It can be truthfully said that a faithful witness, a true Christian and God NEVER lie. See Prov. 14:5; 1 John 3:8, 9 and Tit. 1:2. With man there always remains that possibility of him falling away from his steadfastness and then committing some sin or telling a lie; but with God all such is impossible. See Heb. 6:18. This being true, how can anyone ever doubt any of God’s promises or predictions for the future? Some people seem to doubt there being a literal burning hell, when Jesus, who was God manifested in human flesh (Matt. 1:23 and 2 Cor. 5:19), declared to His audience time and again that there was such a place, “where the worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched” (Mk. 9:42-48 and Matt. 25:41-46).
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Then, there are others who want to believe and preach that a person can be saved, during this dispensation of grace, without being born of water and the Spirit. If Jesus spoke the truth to Nicodemus, and He most assuredly did, when He told him he had to be “born again” before he could see or enter the kingdom of God, no one is going to get in otherwise. Brothers and friends, we had just as well face the facts and accept the truth now while we can and declare the same to others. There is a great failing away from this truth and message of the “New Birth,” or the birth that is of water and the Spirit, as God’s plan of entrance into His kingdom. It just cannot be other than Jesus gives it to us in St. John 3:3-7, for we know lie did not lie. Paul says, “Let God be true, but every man a liar;” that is, if either man or God must be doubted. To disbelieve God is to make Him a liar; for John, the beloved, informs us: “He that BELIEVETH NOT God hath (by such an act) made Him a liar” (1 John 5:10). To inform someone you do not believe what they have said is true is just a mild way of telling them they have lied. whom are we going to believe and follow in these days of infidelity and apostasy? Give me Jesus and His teachings and plenty of God’s grace to believe and obey them; for “there is a way (and possibly many ways) which seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” and eternal damnation. Compare Prov. 14:12.
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WHAT IS GOD’S LIE DETECTOR
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The Lord has a “Lie Detector” that is more efficient than anything man has ever perfected. While man has perfected a “Lie Detector” that works in many cases, and is quite accurate, God’s never fails and is perfect in its indications and discernments. God’s “Lie Detector” is nothing more or less than the Holy Ghost (1 Cor. 12:8,10). Read Acts 5:1-11 and see how it (lie) revealed Ananias’ and Sapphira’s lying. It revealed to Peter positively and definitely that these two people were lying about the price they had obtained for their property. God’s “Lie Detector” does not only reveal or indicate when a person has lied or is guilty of lying; it also reveals what he has lied about and all the secrets of his heart. See Dan. 2:22, 28, 29, 47.
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If God’s ministers of today would walk with Him as they should and live where God could and would reveal things to them, concerning their congregations, they would be feared and respected more by them, even as the people feared Moses, Joshua and the apostles. See Joshua 4:14 and Acts 5:1-11. This was due to the fact that the people knew by what God was revealing to them (Josh. 7:16-26) that they were the true prophets and servants of the Lord. If this was true today, church members and backslidden preachers could not carry on or continue their wicked practices, and at the same time profess to be Christians, without being detected and dealt with. We need to make more use of God’s “Lie Detector,” the “Gift of Discernment,” which reveals every secret of men’s hearts — by the Spirit, in order that the devil’s works might be made manifest and that these lying hypocrites might BE AFRAID to parade their hypocrisy before the church folk and the world.
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A minister who does not live close enough to God to know his flock and be able to discern their spiritual conditions need not expect God to put a holy fear upon the people, to the extent that they will consider his advice and instructions prayerfully; also to cause them to be afraid to dishonor, criticize, judge, revile, undermine, boycott and ignore him. A minister can certainly live where he can see the Lord thus working in his behalf; but he must stay humble, VERY prayerful, and spiritual or it will not continue to be his much prized experience.
SOME PUNISHMENTS THAT AWAIT ALL LIARS
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1. STRIPPED OF ALL HONOR, REPUTATION, AND SUCCESS
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We are informed by the Scriptures that “The prophet that teacheth lies, he is THE TAIL.” The inevitable consequences of lying makes it one of the most serious sins or offenses one can indulge in or commit. Few people realize the seriousness and danger of lying. One never knows what the outcome of one lie may be until it has taken its course and cut down its victims. A lie is sometimes very long lived — it may die or spend itself out very slowly. A person who is stripped of all honor and reputation, and has had a successful career turned into failure and defeat by lying himself or by being lied upon, is in a PITIFUL condition. Such people are often left in such despair until they contemplate committing suicide or actually perform the act. Well, this is just some of the consequences and punishments that await those who tell lies. Read Jer. 23:30-32.
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2. LYING CAUSES ONE TO ERR HIMSELF
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“Thus saith the Lord; ‘For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof: Because they have despised the law of the Lord, and have not kept His commandments, and THEIR LIES caused them TO ERR”’ (Amos 2:4). Who ever lied that did. not err? Every person that lies errs from the truth, but there is more ways to err than in this manner. To err also means to miss one’s aim, to make a mistake, to go astray morally, to sin, and, as in every case, wander from the truth. when one begins to consider the punishments that await the person who tells lies, he can readily see that such a life or practice never pays off with anything that is good or worthwhile. Well enough, the liar has his payday coming, even if it is sometimes quite delayed (Rom. 2:2-9). The worst err of lying is that it certainly diverts one’s steps from the path of life to that of eternal death and agony. See Rev. 21 :8, 27.
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3. LYING CAUSES GOD TO REMOVE ONE’S NAME F.ROM THE BOOK OF LIFE
God informed Moses, “Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I BLOT OUT of My Book.” If there is any sin that would prompt God to take one’s name off the “Book of Life,” it is the sin of lying; but it is not a question of the degree of sin that is committed — if it is sin, one’s name is removed. See Ex. 32:23 with Psa. 69:27, 28. I suppose that my readers all know what the consequences are of having one’s name removed from the “Rook of Life.” It simply means that one’s right to eternal life has been canceled and that he must spend eternity with the damned in the lake of fire. See Rev. 20:15. There is no chance of being saved for one who dies after God removes his name from the “Book of Life,” unless he gets God to replace it before he dies.
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4. GOD’S HAND 15 AGAINST ALL LIARS
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This alone is a terrible punishment for lying. If God be against us who can be for us? There is no one who can deliver us out of His hand. The wife may succeed in delivering her child from the hand of her husband, who desires to punish him; but there is no one who could succeed in taking anyone out of the hand of God. Too, this means that everything one may try to do is opposed by the Lord. For proof that God’s hand is against those who lie, we quote: “Therefore thus saith the Lord God: ‘Because ye have spoken vanity (lies), and seen lies (you received them by way of a vision), therefore,. behold (look and see), I AM AGAINST you,’ said the Lord” (Ezk. 13:8). Again we read in Jer. 23:31,32: “Behold, I AM AGAINST the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, (He saith), behold, I AM AGAINST them that prophesy false dreams … and do tell them, and cause My people to err by their lies.”
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5. GOD’S SWORD IS TURNED ON ALL LIARS
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Not only do we find that God’s hand is against all those who tell lies; but His sword is unsheathed and turned on them. what an awful and horrible thing to have God turn his sword loose on someone. The Lord cuts to pieces with His sword until there is nothing left of a man. It just simply means ut\er destruction for the physical man. See Rev. 19:11-21; 20:7-9 and Ezk. 38:22. For examples of this kind of punishment, we refer you to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Great Deluge sent on the anti-Deluvians, the one angel destroying 70,000 with God’s sword because David numbered Israel (1 Chron. 21 :1, 2, 14-17), and the angel that killed 185,000 Assyrians in one night before Jerusalem during Hezekiah’s reign. See 2 Chron. 32:21 and 2 Kings 19:35. These incidents show us how destructive God’s sword is and how helpless human beings are when He becomes angry with them. God’s sword is drawn on all liars, and if he has not already struck down some liar, He is in the very act of doing so. Possibly some relative, friend, or Christian, standing in the gap pleading with God for that liar, is why God has not already smitten him. Compare Ex. 32:7-14, 30-34 with Ezk. 22:30. Surely “A sword is upon the liars . . and they shall be dismayed” (Jer. 50:36).
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6. LIARS BECOME SILLY, LOSE THEIR WIT, ACT AND TALK FOOLISHLY, AND BECOME WEAK-MINDED
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Here we have another list of consequences that are certain to come to the liar, as a matter of punishment for his lying, that many never knew were some of God’s chastisements for this sin. “Habitual Liars” become so simpleminded until they actually believe that their listeners believe their unreasonable lying. They tell things that could not possibly have happened and that even a child, whose mind is on the alert for adventurous things and miraculous events, will not accept as truth. One does not have to continue lying very long before he will become simple minded and silly. If one desires to finish his days upon this earth in this category, and possibly die numbered with the insane, let him keep up that lying or indulge in it continually, and this will be his lot.
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To lose one’s wit means that he loses that ability or alertness of mind to suddenly and ingeniously assemble and associate ideas and words which are out of the ordinary. In its final stage, it means the loss of the reasoning power and faculty of the mind or senses. A person could go so far along this line until he could scarcely, if at all, comprehend his need of salvation or figure out in any case what would be the best thing for him to do. He would be stripped of all that power and ability to reason out matters and make a good decision. when the devil once has a person well on his way, floating down his lying stream toward the lake of fire, the person seldom has enough mind left to plan his escape or appropriate the means God has provided for his salvation. Possibly someone is beginning to wonder where the writer has obtained all his information, and if it is Scriptural. Quoting from Jer. 50:36, we read: “A sword is upon the liars; and they SHALL DOTE” — become silly, simpleminded, lose their wit, act and talk foolishly, etc. Then statistics and observation will back us up in this definition. The person whom you find telling unreasonable lies will be found to be quite simple minded and not very witty, if any at all. He will also likely be found to talk and act very foolishly and possibly be fickle-minded. People who want to be wise and have a reputation for wit and wisdom had better tell the truth and shun lying all the time. We are informed that to fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and there is more truth in this statement than poetry. Fear God and you will not lie. why should one not fear God and quit lying or refrain from lying if not already guilty, in the face of these punishments that await the liar?
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May God cause all of us to quake and tremble as this message and the Holy Spirit brings us before the judgment seat of Christ where we can now judge ourselves, and not be judged later (1 Cor. 11:31). We can now judge ourselves and plead guilty — send our sins of lying, and all other kind, on ahead of us to the judgment, and not have them trailing in behind us when we have to stand before that “Great white Throne Judgment Bar of God,” on that final judgment day. Remember, “A false witness (one who swears lies) shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies SHALL NOT ESCAPE.” My friend, the things we have been telling you about in this chapter concerning the punishment that awaits all liars are certain to come upon them. It is vouched for by God’s eternal Word which shall stand forever, even when and after heaven and earth have passed into oblivion passed totally out of our memory.
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“O God of heaven and earth, who shall deliver and save us from this lying age and generation? We are wretched and undone without you; yea, we are helpless creatures and without you the devil will in some way or another lead us off into this damnable sin. Be our Deliverer and Saviour, we pray. Yea, fill us with that “Spirit of truth” (John 16:13), the Holy Ghost (Compare John 14:17 and 26), and so inoculate us until there will be nothing but the truth in us. Then I know that we will not tell any lies. Amen.”
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7.GOD STOPS ALL LIARS FROM WITNESSING FOR HIM
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A liar cannot be a witness for the Lord. All liars are the devil’s witnesses and he must be proud of them. Who could be proud of a liar but the devil? If anyone should be proud of a liar, he would be a fool. David says, “The mouth of them that speak lies SHALL BE STOPPED.” It is a very easy matter for God to stop the mouths of His people from witnessing for Him when they begin lying. The control is in His hand and all He has to do is switch off the inspiration or anointing, as we frequently speak of it. The liar may go on talking or preaching but he is no more God’s witness. No one is a real witness of the Lord who is not inspired or anointed of the Holy Spirit to speak. Our words and sermons must be inspired or given of the Lord in order for our witnessing to be of Him. No more anointed singing, testifying, preaching, teaching, shouting or worship for the liar. If the anointing is gone and one realizes the Lord has departed from him, as he did from King Saul, he will do well to look around and see if that old lying spirit has not switched the currant off. One may lie and act a hypocrite; but that does not at all class him among God’s true witnesses. He is a wolf among the sheep, a well without water, clouds without rain, and a terrible offender in God’s sight.
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8. LIARS CANNOT ABIDE IN GOD’S HOUSE, NEITHER IN HIS SIGHT
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“He that worketh deceit (and one has to almost lie in every case to deceive anyone) SHALL NOT dwell within My house (church): he that telleth lies SHALL NOT tarry in My sight” (Psa. 101:7). God’s house is not one any more that can be built with mortal hands. It is a spiritual building (See Eph. 2:19-21) and, therefore, God can put one out of His building though he still remains in some church or organization. There is a day coming when God is going to cast all liars out of His sight, just as He cast the children of Israel and Judah out of His sight, in days of yore (Jer. 7:15; 15:1). This might not appear to be a very bad or sore punishment to some now, but wait until they experience it. To be cast out of God’s sight does not mean necessarily that one is where God cannot see him; but that he is where he cannot see God or even get a glimpse of Him, His presence or His power, in any form or manner.
W.e are sometimes relieved of our distress over the loss of loved ones, who have been placed out of our sight beneath the sod of some cemetery, by viewing one of their pictures. There will not likely be any comforting pictures of the crucified Christ hanging on the walls of Hell for one to behold. They will be deprived of every vision and likeness of our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ — especially will this be true following the “Great white Throne Judgment.” You, like Paul and other Christians, may have beheld the Lord and His glory in some vision of the night; but if you turn away from Him by lying, you will soon be where you will never see that wonderful and sympathetic face again. Remember, the Lord has said: “He that telleth lies shall not tarry in My sight,” and you may as well expect this if you lie and die guilty of this sin.
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9. FINALLY, HELL!
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We have listed, in this chapter, a great many punishments that await all liars though not nearly all of them. There are none of the punishments we have dealt with prior to this paragraph that will or can equal hell, that burning lake of fire which is filled with brimstone and produces an unending experience of death, known as the “second death.” when it comes to explaining the tortures of that place with pen or tongue, it is beyond the English vocabulary to supply us with words to describe it — it is just hell! and more of hell, and hell that has no end to it. When one wants to speak of the terribleness of something that he cannot find words to express how awful it is, he just simply says, “It was hell.”
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 and there are surely other ways a person can lie. Surely hell, that indescribable place of torment, must have enlarged her mouth to receive all these multitudes and millions of liars who have been pouring into it for ages past and up to the present time. God told Isaiah, or informed us through this prophet, that He had enlarged hell so much that it was beyond measure (Isa. 5:14). So hell is going to be large enough to accommodate all liars, we can be assured of that, and that all liars are going there. See Rev. 21:8 and Prov. 19:5.
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Surely the readers  should be ready by this time to consider God’s remedy and inoculation for the sin of lying, after having read of the various punishments and consequences that awaits the liar. So we now pass with you to the final chapter of this book for the much needed and prized information. Let me plead with you to give the following chapter your most prayerful consideration for your own eternal welfare.
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GOD’S REMEDY AND INOCULATION FOR LYING
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THE WORD OF GOD
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The Word of God is certainly to be considered and resorted to if one desires and hopes to free himself from all lying and he truthful in every action and statement. Jesus informed His disciples that they had been cleansed through the Word which He had spoken unto them (John 15:3). Then the Psalmist said, “Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might NOT sin against Thee.” So there is no question but that there is a cleansing element and an inoculation against lying and all other sins in the Word of God.
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A good knowledge of the Scriptures concerning the various punishments and consequences of lying should make any God fearing person seek the Lord for a greater filling of the Spirit of Truth. Too, when one reads and finds that God has barricaded the New Jerusalem and heaven against all liars (Rev. 21:27), and that no one but he who speaks the truth in his heart (Psa. 15:1, 2) is going to DWELL in God’s holy hill (high heaven) and ABIDE in His house (church), he is certainly made to see that one needs to be kept by the power of God at all times and places.
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Jesus made use of the Word of God to defeat Satan during one of the arch enemy’s worst attacks upon Him. What power of resistance He wielded when He said: “It is written!” If the Word of God proved so helpful to our Lord during His sojourn and days of testing here on this earth, it certainly should be read and adhered to, especially by all of God’s children. It will certainly help cleanse one from all untruthfulness and. play a great part in inoculating him against all lying; “For the Word of God is QUICK and POWERFUL” (”Full of life and power.” Weymouth). Heb. 4:12. Read Psa. 1:1-6 and Josh. 1:1-9 and be further enlightened concerning the power and consequences of the written Word, which is assured to those who will constantly meditate upon it, believe it (Heb. 11:6), and obey it.
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THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH
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“Howbeit when He, the Spirit of TRUTH, is come, He will guide you into ALL truth” (John 16:13).
“But ye shall receive power, AFTER that the Holy Ghost is come upon you” (Acts 1:8), to tell the truth. See 1 John 2:27.
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There are TWO predominating and controlling spirits in the world, besides our own human spirit, that we have to do or deal with. One of these spirits predominates to establish truth and righteousness in one’s life and conduct; but the other tends to lead man in the other direction, and the evil spirit, known as Satan and the devil, is an outright lying spirit. As we have already explained in chapter five, he never tells the truth. If he gets control and possesses one in any degree, he certainly injects his lying spirit into him. One must stay free from all of Satan’s influence and control or he will lie in spite of himself. The human spirit is of a neutral nature. It is easily influenced by either of these predominating spirits of good and evil. Therefore, one should see to it that his own spirit is influenced and controlled only by the “Spirit of Truth,” if he desires to always be truthful.
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There is no need of man that demands one to be a recipient of the Holy Ghost any more than the one we are now dealing with. Some people, and many of them professed Christians, do not see the need of their seeking God for the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and being possessors of this experience today. It is a matter of impossibility for one to always be as truthful as he should be without it. The human spirit is not capable of guarding itself to this extent, for it was not created in that capacity. God has created us as dependent beings, and not at all independent. Jesus frankly warned His disciples that without Him they could do NOTHING (John 15:5). The Holy Ghost can be received today, with the evidence of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance the same as it was received at Pentecost; “For the promise is unto YOU (Peter’s audience on the day of Pentecost), and to YOUR CHILDREN! and to ALL that are AFAR off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” See Acts 2:1-4, 37-39; 19:1-6. Between ten and fifteen million people, scattered all over the world and in every nation, have this experience and keeping power in their lives today, as a witness that it is for “ALL that are afar off,” as Peter said.
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We shall deal further with this point at the close of this chapter, especially as pertaining to those who have received their baptism in the Holy Ghost.
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FAITH THAT APPROPRIATES
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One cannot appropriate the promises of God unless he believes God meant them for Him as an individual. “Faith WITHOUT works is dead, … being alone,” says James, the brother of our Lord. Then Paul informs us, “He that cometh to God MUST believe that He is (that there is a God and that He now lives or exists), and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” Jesus also informs us, that “all things are possible to him that believeth.” The faith that appropriates is the faith that goes into action-does something about the problem confronted or involved. Our next paragraph will show you and explain what faith in action is, at least in part.
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PRAYING WITHOUT CEASING
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Just as one cannot obtain things from God without faith, he does not receive them without asking God for them (Matt. 7:7, 8), and that day by day. “Ye have not, because ye ask not” (James 4:2). We cannot receive a lifetime supply of spiritual food, power, grace, etc., by praying one prayer, any more than one can eat enough, naturally speaking, to sustain himself indefinitely. This is where “praying without ceasing” comes in. Our spiritual needs must be a matter of daily prayer. “Though our outward man perish, yet the INWARD man is renewed DAY BY DAY.” Right here is the secret of why many Christians grow weak spiritually and lose out with God — fail to stay victorious in their daily living for God. They do not “continue in prayer, and watch in prayer with thanksgiving,” as Paul exhorted the Colossians to do. The model prayer given by our Lord instructs us to pray: “Give us THIS day (not some future day or year) our DAILY bread.” God has spiritual power and soul vitamins conditioned about like the manna He served to the children of Israel in the Wilderness, for those forty years. If they gathered a week’s or month’s supply and kept it for over one day, excepting the Sabbath day, it bred worms and stank. Some lazy Israelites would have preferred gathering enough in one day to have lasted them for many days; but God would not have it that way. The same is true with many well meaning Christians of today. They would like to obtain enough soul-food and power during one prayer to last them indefinitely. God could not afford to arrange things thus; for there would be too much idleness among His people; and an idle soul is soon meddling and into various kinds of mischief.
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To “pray without ceasing” does not necessarily mean that one must pray for twenty-four hours a day; but that he must pray daily and continually renew or repeat his petitions to the Lord. Prayer must be a daily routine for every Christian if he expects to obtain the needed grace from the Lord for each day. One who conducts family worship and prayer once a day, or who sees that he gets alone with God in the secret place of prayer every day, prays without ceasing, and you can make this application to all kinds of prayer.
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A PURPOSED HEART
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God assures one that he can obtain the things that he desires if he will seek for them with all his heart. Some people are not daily concerned about spiritual matters and their soul’s need. If we want to obtain God’s favor and help, we must first let Him see that we have a WILL and PURPOSE of heart to do and accomplish certain things. Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the king’s wine and meats, and God saw to it that Daniel did not have to drink the wine or eat the king’s meat. A purposed heart goes a long way in influencing God to grant our petitions, don’t ever forget this. God is not out to waste His time and power upon people who have no purpose of heart. Such a person is like a ship without a rudder or helm — there is no telling which way he may drift or turn. The man who never purposes in his heart to seek God and get right with His Maker will die lost — God will never save such a person. If He did, He would be saving him against his own will. We are free moral agents with the power of choice granted unto us by the Lord, and God would contradict His creative plans and actions if He did things for us against our will. This should help you to more thoroughly understand why a purposed heart, concerning telling the truth, is so essential if one wants God to give him grace to always he one hundred percent truthful.
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A few quotations from the pen of David will probably add some more emphasis to this thought and paragraph concerning the need of a purposed heart, in the matter of being truthful, or of obtaining grace from God to help one be truthful, “I am PURPOSED that my mouth shall not transgress” (tell lies, tattle, backbite, judge, criticize, etc.). “I said (David speaking), I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not (lie not) with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.” David was going his limit as for purposing not to lie or say things he should not speak. -He later learned to petition God’s help and assistance in the matter, and I am sure God undertook for him. We find him uttering the following words after he had failed to carry out the purposes of his heart, by his own strength and wit: “Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; KEEP the door of my lips.” Don’t overlook the need of petitioning God for assistance along this line, though you desire and purpose to be truthful.
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CONFESS AND CORRECT ALL ERRORS, FALSE STATEMENTS, ETC.
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This is something that we almost have to force the natural man to do, especially at times when the circumstances are not so inviting. Solomon gives us this admonition concerning our faults and sins: “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso CONFESSETH and FORSAKETH them shall have (or obtain) mercy” (forgiveness). Don’t say you never lied or that you have always been truthful, and, thereby, endeavor to cover up your untruthfulness and contradict God’s Word. “If we say we have not sinned (lied at some time or other — remembering that any untruth is a lie), we make Him a liar” — contradict the Bible (1 John 1:10). John, the beloved, also has this to say about confessing our sins and lying: “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (lying and untruthfulness included), and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness” (lying).
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Incorrect or false statements are charged against us as a lie, even when not premeditated or willfully uttered until we confess them. See Lev. 5:17 and Num. 15:27-29. So save yourselves, in this manner, from this untoward generation of which there are not many people who tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, all the time. Reread the paragraphs concerning “Premeditated Lying” and “Unintentional Lying” given in chapter two on “Various Forms of Lying,” in connection with this one, and you will better understand why we have to confess sins that we did not intend to commit. Sin of this nature has to be cared for the same as that mud, stain and grease that you get on your natural garments by accident or due to carelessness. Such stains and soiled garments must be cleaned the same as those soiled from wear and perspiration. So is it with our souls. If sin has marred it, there must be an application of the blood before it can be removed, and God demands that we call His attention to these special needs the same as the cleaner does. If you just put a suit or dress in for a general dry cleaning that has some stain and unwashable spots on it without calling the cleaners attention to it, you cannot blame him if the dress or suit is returned with those spots still showing. God wants us to put our finger right on the spots (confess exactly and definitely) we desire to be removed from our soul. Too many Christians go in for a “Dry Cleaning” spiritually when they need an overall washing with “Fullers soap” (Mal. 3:2), applied with plenty of water in the name of Jesus Christ (Read Col. 3:17; Acts 4:12; 2:38; 22:16 and 1 Jno. 5:8), or by partaking of the Lord’s supper worthily if they have already been baptized in water. See Heb. 6:1-3; 1 Cor. 10:16 and Matt. 26:27, 28.
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There are too many “Dry Cleaning Establishments”  (churches, if you please) in the land today recommending a cleansing for the soul OTHER than REPENTANCE (See Luke 13:5; Acts 2:37,38; 3:19; 17:30 and 2 Peter 3:9), which includes the confessing of one’s sins to God and whoever might he personally wronged or affected thereby, and that EXCLUDE “the WATER AND BLOOD BATH” which can only be obtained by being immersed or baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ. The water and the blood are included in the “New Birth” the same as the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Compare St. John 3:3-7 with I John 5:8.
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Water baptism in the titles, “Father, Son and Holy Ghost” does not remit or wash away one’s sins. It is like washing clothes in water without putting any soap, lye, bleach or bluing in it. One may rub, boil, and rinse all he pleases, but the dirt and stain will not all come out. How careless and indifferent some people are when it comes to seeking cleansing for the soul. The Scriptures plainly and definitely inform us that, “Without shedding of blood (there) is no remission” of sin and that “Repentance and remission of sins should he preached in HIS NAME” (the name of Jesus Christ — Luke 24:46, 47). See also Acts 2:37, 38; 10:43; and John 20:31. Remember, Jesus has informed us that he who tries to get in some way other than what He has planned will not make it any more than a thief would. Compare John 1(1:1 and 14:6. Therefore, confess your sins, if you desire forgiveness and cleansing from them, and be buried in the watery grave by baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, if you have not thus been baptized.
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LIVE A SPIRIT-FILLED LIFE
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We now come to the final paragraphs of this chapter and the whole book. We have been studying the remedy that will rid one of sin and lying in the foregoing paragraphs of this chapter, and now we come to the PERMANENT INOCULATION against sin and lying. “Greater is He (The Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit) that is IN you, than he (the devil or one of his evil spirits) that is in the world” (1 John 4:4). There is nothing so important to our being truthful as being filled and staying filled with the Holy Ghost or the Spirit of truth. See 1 John 2:27 and St. John 16:14. The watch that David could only have BEFORE his mouth (Psa. 141:3), we can now have IN our souls (St. John 14:16-20,26; 15:26), which is nothing less than the Holy Ghost that is evidenced by the speaking with tongues as He enters Into our very soul and body. See Acts 2:1-4; 10:44-46; 19:1-6 and Isa. 28:11, 12 with Mk. 16:17.
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This Holy Ghost, which is the power and Spirit of God within us, can and will keep us from all evil and sin (Acts 1:8; Jude 20 and 1 Peter 1:1-10) and “is able to keep you from falling, and to present you FAULTLESS before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy.” — Jude. If one will not thus inoculate himself against lying, then he will “fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken” by Satan and his lying spirit, as Isaiah has prophesied (Isa. 28:11-13), and in the final he will land In hell (Rev. 21:8). General Booth’s prediction concerning twentieth century Christianity is coming true. He said, in part: “I consider that the chief danger that confronts the coming century will be, religion WITHOUT the Holy Ghost,” and there is plenty of this kind today.
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It is one thing to be filled or get filled with the Spirit and it is another thing to KEEP filled. Many are filled with the Holy Ghost and do not KEEP filled with it. One must KEEP inoculated with the Spirit by STAYING filled with it, as Paul exhorts in Ephesians 5:18. It requires as much or more to keep filled with the Holy Ghost as it does to obtain it. All the expenses of operating an automobile are not dispensed with when one purchases the ear. In fact the operating expenses begin after he buys and begins to use or operate the car. It costs a person some of his time and a great deal of devotion to God and His cause in order to STAY filled with the Spirit. One does not sleep out his salvation — it is worked out with much fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12). There has to be a great deal of praying in the Holy Ghost (Jude 20), anointed and inspired praying, in order for one to stay Spirit FILLED and inoculated against lying and all forms of sin. The Holy Ghost fills one’s soul and keeps the devil, and all lying and evil spirits, out of him, just as the filling keeps the germs out of one’s tooth and preserves it (1 King 4:4).
.Some people, who attain unto a Spirit-filled life, fool around and use up their supply without seeking for the refilling (Acts 4:24-31) often enough, and become more sinful and untruthful than they have ever been (2 Pet. 2:20). But this is not a fault of the Holy Ghost, it is a fault of their own. If there is no gasoline in the tank of a car, there is no power there to make it go. The same is true with a Christian without the Holy Ghost.
.May we bow our heads and join in prayer with Jude as we close this message: “Now unto Him (Jesus) that is able to KEEP YOU from falling, and to present YOU FAULTLESS before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God OUR SAVIOUR, be glory (for all the good accomplished by this message or little book) and majesty, dominion and power (in your life and mine), both NOW and EVER.” Amen!
 
 
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PS Anyone who is naive to say to me from Alberta now too  that any professing Christians do not drink alcohol, get drunk just should read all the letters I often do get from professing Christian pastors acknowledging they drink wine, alcohol and trying to justify it.. I have often written about this too.. Drunkenness is just as much a sin as lying…
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February 1, 2009

Typical Site Searches

These are examples of some of the typical Search Words on this site
 
Symbols of the Holy Spirit
Christian and Missionary Alliance Church
What does it mean to follow Jesus 
Rev Andrew Murray 
Selling the gospel 
What does god mean by being “chosen “?
free bible wallpaper
wallpapers original
Pentecostals’ heresy
Bible wallpapers
Does God allow us to marry non Christian
The apostles of Jesus Christ 
Speeding  over the speed limit
Calgary police crooked cops
RCMP, Preston Manning,  Alberta 
Bell internet complaints
Sympatico over charging for poor service

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/
 
I am not amazed how many topics being searched are often repeated such as: speeding, crooked cops, Bell, Sympatico, marrying a non Christian,  Christian Missionary Alliance church, Chosen, Pentecostals
 
but sadly when I do see any attempts to classify all Pentecostals as non Christians, heretics, I know the user themselves clearly do  not know or read the Bible for a start.

January 23, 2009

A New life

 

“Lean not to your own understanding, [but] in all your ways acknowledge Him…” for His thoughts are higher than your thoughts and His ways higher than your ways (Prov. 3:5 and Is. 55:9).

It is always still possible to for Satan to use, influence our mind, and it is also possible for God to use, influence it as well depending on what door we ourselves do now open or shut.. 

 

(Psa 52:7 KJV)  Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. 8   But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever. 9 I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints.
 
Satan corrupted God’s perfect plan for Adam, Eve and us all with a temptation: Man himself now could become like God, and man himself without God could know all right from wrong. Man does not need to receive any direct revelation from God, but he could turn to his own mind and he himself could know – separate and apart from God (Gen. 3:5) the whole truth. This is, was a big continual lie, deception.

For truly the man who reasons on his own understanding has reasoned faultily always for there are two kinds of knowledge

– man’s corrupted, limited knowledge

– and God’s,
and they generally do always differ very significantly too.“
 
In suggesting to man that he could become like God and he could know, Satan was suggesting two things: self consciousness, and reliance upon reason or rationalism as a way of establishing truth.

Mankind accepted this lie and fell from revelation to reasoned knowledge. As a result, he was cursed. Part of that curse was that God cut man off from the Tree of Life (Gen. 3:22), where Jesus was the vine and man was a branch and there was a flow of revelation through man on an ongoing daily basis (Jn. 15).

Moreover, man soon learned that he is not able to fulfill God’s purposes for his life by living out of reason or knowledge, because man’s thoughts are not God’s thoughts nor are man’s ways God’s ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are God’s thoughts higher than man’s thoughts (Isa. 55:9). Man is commanded not to depend upon his own judgments (Prov. 3:5)”..

Jesus himself had demonstrated a lifestyle of doing nothing from His own initiative, but only what He heard and saw the Father doing (Jn. 5:19,20,30). So should we all now too. Jesus He lived out of a continuous divine flow. Self consciousness was replaced with divine consciousness where one dies to self, and one turns away from one’s own self-confidence, and to a divine self-confidence.

Verses confirming the above “Christ led” distinctive:

I do nothing on my own initiative (Jn. 5:19,20,30).

It is Christ at work in us to will and to work of His good pleasure (Phil. 2:13).

Out of your innermost being shall flow… (Jn. 7:37-39).

Young men shall see visions and old men will dream dreams (Acts 2:17).

Come let us reason together… (Is. 1:18).

Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit (Lk. 4:14).

The love of God has been poured out within our hearts (Rom. 5:5).

The Spirit of God is upon me because He has anointed me to… (Lk. 4:18).

Looking to Christ, the author and finisher… (Heb. 12:1,2).

God gives grace to the humble (Jas. 4:6).

For decades too I still held most of Christian opinions, that were mostly wrong , for many many years, without ever questioning the valid foundation for my own and my Churches beliefs, until Jesus himself said to me that I need to seriously review all of the, all of them in accordance with the Bible’s reality. I used my own mind not Christ’s to think about the Scriptures, reading them, studying them, memorizing them, and collating all of them into systems of truth that made felt right to me. The result of this typical normal undoubtedly leads to un sound doctrines. And it is a deceptive course, for it results in man’s humanistic., a corrupted knowledge, based on man’s desires, ability and man’s frail perspective, which is often influenced by one prevalent culture.

Paul prays in Ephesians 1:17,18 “that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints” (NASU). This prayer is for us as readers of the Word of God to receive fresh revelation concerning the things we are reading about in the Bible. David prayed the same prayer in Psalm 119:18 when he said, “Open my eyes, that I may behold wonderful things from Your law”

Eventually also next , I also did learn how to let God enter into my whole life, body, soul , spirit, mind..

The proper Confession Concerning Who I Am in Christ

“My spirit is joined to the Holy Spirit, so I no longer live alone, but Christ energizes my spirit and lives out through me, restoring my heart, my soul and my body. I can do all things through Christ Who lives within me and Who strengthens me. Christ is my hope of glory. I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me. I am strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for in Him all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him I have been made complete.

I am joined to Christ. Christ is formed within me, and I am clothed with Christ. I am saturated with Christ, through and through. On whatever level of myself I look, I see Jesus.

I have been chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. I stand holy and blameless before God in love.

I have received God’s divine nature within me, and through it I am escaping the corruption and lust that is in the world. I live by faith that all the promises of God are to me through Christ. I have been blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.

Everything in heaven and earth is summed up in Christ, and through Christ I have obtained an inheritance. I pray for a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. I pray that the eyes of my heart may be enlightened, so that I will know what is the hope of God’s calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward me, a believer. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him Who fills all in all.

I was dead in my trespasses and sins, in which I formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Living in the lusts of my flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and was by nature a child of wrath, even as others. But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved me, even when I was dead in my transgressions, made me alive together with Christ (by grace I have been saved), and raised me up with Him, and seated me with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

According to the riches of Christ’s glory, I am strengthened with power through His Spirit in my inner man. Christ dwells in my heart through faith; and I am rooted and grounded in love. I am able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth of Christ’s love, which surpasses knowledge. I am filled up with all the fullness of God.

So I worship Him Who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that I ask or think, according to the power that works within me. To Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever. Amen.

I pray that I may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, so that I will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.

I am strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, and I am able to obtain patience, joyfulness, and thankfulness. I share in God’s inheritance to the saints.

I have been rescued from the domain of darkness, and transferred to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in Whom I have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. And although I was formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has now reconciled me in His fleshly body through death, in order to present me before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach — if indeed I continue in faith.

God willed to make known what is the riches of His glory to me, which is Christ in me, the hope of glory. So I proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that I may present every man complete in Christ. For this purpose I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me.

In Christ are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. As I have received Christ, I will walk in Him. That is by faith. I will be established in faith, and I will overflow with gratitude. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him I have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; and in Him I was also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; having been buried with Him in baptism, in which I was also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. When I was dead in my transgressions and the un-circumcision of my flesh, He made me alive together with Him, having forgiven me all my transgressions, and canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against me, which was hostile to me; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.

Therefore no one is to act as my judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day — things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. No one will defraud me of my prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.

Since I have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, I will not submit myself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish with use) — in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men. These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

Since I have been raised up with Christ, I will keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. I set my mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth because I have died and my life is hidden with Christ in God.

When Christ, Who is my life, is revealed, then I will be revealed with Him in glory. “

Therefore I consider the members of my earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry. For it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience, and in them I also once walked, when I was living in them. But now I put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from my mouth.

I do not lie to others, since I have laid aside the old self with its evil practices, and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One Who created him — a renewal in which there is no distinction between people, but Christ is all, and in all.

If I love another, God abides in me, and His love is perfected in me. By this I know that I abide in Him and He in me, because He has given me of His Spirit.

By His doing I am in Christ Jesus, Who became to me wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is written, “LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THE LORD.”

I determined to speak of nothing except Jesus Christ, and His death and life within us. My preaching will not be in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God. Yet I do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; but I speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

It is written,

“THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD,

AND WHICH HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN,

ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM.”

For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now I have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit Who is from God, so that I may know the things freely given to me by God, which things I also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But I have the mind of Christ.

I Corinthians 6:17; Galatians 2:20; Philippians 4:13; Colossians 1:11, 27-29; 2:9,10; Galatians 3:27; 4:19; Ephesians 1:4; II Peter 1:4; II Corinthians 1:20; Ephesians 1:3, 10,11, 17-23; 2:1-7; 3:16-21; Colossians 2:3,6,7,9-23; 3:1-11; I John 4:7-16; I Corinthians 1:30 – 2:16 ”

 
`THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND WHICH HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM.’ For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.” (I Cor. 2:9-10 NASU)

“Trust in the LORD with all your heart  And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the LORD and turn away from evil.”(Prov. 3:5-7 NASU)

The only command in the Bible to reason is found in Isaiah 1:18. You will note two things about this command: 1) Reason is only encouraged if done together with God. 2) When you reason together with God, He uses imagery, which is a right brain function and not normally considered as part of the reasoning process in the western culture.

“`Come now, and let us reason together,’ Says the LORD,` Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.’” (Isa. 1:18 NKJV)

The Greek in II Timothy 2:15 does not say, “Study to show yourself approved…a workman that needeth not to be ashamed….” This is a mistranslation.

In the Greek, and in the NASB, it says,

“Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.” (II Tim. 2:15 NASU)

There is no verse in the Bible recommending “study.” Instead, the Bible recommends, some 20 times, meditation. Joshua 1:8 is an example of this. Biblical meditation is very different from study, as the following pages on “Study versus Meditation” illustrate.

“Seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.” (II Pet.1:3 NASU)

“And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him, The spirit of wisdom and understanding, The spirit of counsel and strength, The spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.” (Isa.11:2 NAS)

“This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.” (Jas. 3:15-17 NASU)

Knowledge (man’s reasoned knowledge) makes arrogant (I Cor. 8:1 NASU).

“And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God. For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.
“Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory; but just as it is written, ‘THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND WHICH HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM.’ For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

“Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.” (NASU)

“Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the circumcision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

“Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.” Philippians 3:1-11 KJV

 

 

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PS and the new life excludes alcoholism, adultery, pornography, tax evasion,  cheating, lying , stealing, etc., still as well something it seems even too many pastors cannot now give up on..

December 24, 2008

Answers to questions by site readers

Common site search Christian based questions by readers..
 
In love if one actually studies, reads the Bible itself  the answers should be already apparent?
 
Sadly my wife was unfaithful and divorced me, something very common too these days.. 
And if she was a Christian, and you are one too you or she have still no right of remarriage  although if she was unfaithful without your own contribution remarriage it might be biblically acceptable….

What does “rebuke mean” in the Bible – It merely means humbly confront the person and ask him to repent of his specifc sin.. 

Can a divorced man be a leader in the Church. Or what should stop you from being an elder
it also depends also on whether he is at fault in the divorce firstly, and has repented of it too,  and secondly it is very clear that old testament prophets  were church leaders even though their wives did not always spiritually  toe the mark still.. but utimately you are a leader only if God has called you to that office and has equipped you for it now too. Many non divorced persons are not even God ordained leaders and firstly they  should not be there now too.
 
Is it a sin for a Christian to marry a non Christian ..
Yes always unacceptable now  too.. just as it is a sin to marry a divorced person now too, or to commit adultery, have sex outside of a valid martial relationship
 
What about false Pentecostalism and man-made doctrines.
There is true and false Pentecostal persons, Pentecostal beliefs and also still many churches, even non Pentecostals hold false, man made, not God ordained., inspired Doctrines 
 
 
What is a bad Pastor?
Firstly it is any Church or God ordained Pastor  who behaves unrepentantly without love, dictatoriall, behaves unbiblicaly, clearly violates God’s commandments, abuses others, an imposter, a pretender, a hireling, a false teacher, a fasle prophet..’
 
Who are church elders?
Normally they are Holy Spirit qualified persons, recognized and selected by the congregation to lead the church.. generally  includes also the pastors, generally each church should have a plurality of pastors, shepherds, deacons but elders are is not limited to being Pastors. The elders, pastors and deacons are both to be spiritual, but one looks mainly after the flock’s spiritual and the other one mainly looks after the flock’s physical needs, such as food, clothing, shelter.
 
(Prov 27:23 KJV)  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds. 
 
 
Most of these topics are already fully covered in detail on my related sites too.. even  http://pbulow.tripod.com/ 
 
 If you want to differ please do show your Bible references as to why as well..
 
 
What are the disadvantages, hindrances still of Bell Internet services..
I almost wrote a book on it in the last year.. for a start their adds tend to be misleading, vague.. adds they next do not live up to as well.. for more just do a Google search Bell, Sympatico, thenonconformer..
 
 

December 21, 2008

Anyone care? Top Posts read by many

  
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(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
 
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

December 14, 2008

Self centeredness, Promotion of self is still a sin..

 
(Mat 18:1 KJV)  At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?  2  And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5  And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7  Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. 10  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
 
 Satan is cunning, to induce all Christians  to sin, he prequalifies them as “leaders” instead of “servants of the most high”..  (Dan 3:26 KJV)  Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire. (Acts 16:17 KJV)  The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which show unto us the way of salvation.
 
(Ezek 13:12 KJV)  Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?
 
(Isa 14:12 KJV)  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13   For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15   Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
 
(Isa 14:21 KJV)  Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
 
(Luke 11:39 KJV)  And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.
 
Clearly many persons who are expecting a bigger portion of the pie in heaven will be disappointed.. for there is only one reward in heaven, and it is eternal life, living with God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit the rest of your life.
 
(John 8:28 KJV)  Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29  And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. 
 
(John 8:31 KJV)    If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 
(Mat 19:29 KJV)  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
 
(Mat 20:1 KJV)  For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2  And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3  And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4  And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5  Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6  And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7  They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8  So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9  And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10  But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11  And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12  Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13  But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14  Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 15  Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 16  So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
 
(Luke 16:15 KJV)  Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
  
(Luke 17:10 KJV)  So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
  
  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20   Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
   
(Isa 30:21 KJV)  And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
  
(Isa 30:22 KJV)  Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence.
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