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January 29, 2015

TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP

Some people we know seem to have too many bad personal days so they falsely try to take it on those around them..  Those unacceptable persons, the oppressors, bullies, abusers, control freaks, liars, slanderers, jungle fighters.. who are clearly still even lost.. they need to change themselves solely and not work on changing  the others.
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 SADLY MANY PERSONS GO TO EXTREMES , DEVELOP  FALSE VALUES, STILL LIVE IN UNREPENTANT SINFUL ACTS.. SO GOD DOES NOT HEAR THEIR PRAYERS  
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(Micah 2:8 KJV) Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/

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(Rom 12:18 KJV) If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

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(Heb 12:14 KJV) Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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(2 Cor 13:11 KJV) Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

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(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

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(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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THE BIBLE ALSO GIVES US PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF PERSONS WHO WERE TOO QUICK TO SPEAK AGAINST OTHERS.. Human beings have this tendency to get the wrong values or to  go to false inbalance, extremes as well in real life..

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as helpers, pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well.  (Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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It is an accurate assessment that 80 percent of all persons suffer from having a very poor self worth, a poor self esteem of themselves and they feel guilty, depressed over it, not knowing what to do cause their humanistic endeavors at self improvement tend to fail them..
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Likely 20 percent of all persons are a TROUBLE MAKER, they are an aggressive bully while the rest, 80 percent are a TIMID SHEEP, over fearful, overly submissive. We often do meet the loud mouthed trouble makers in many places, such as on the net, on the street, in churches now too but we also do encounter those overly timid, overly fearful, cowardly persons sadly now.
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Most people fail to realize that they do even still now need to have a balance of their life of being “assertive”, as well as being “submissive”, and being unbalanced in one or the other is not a positive aspect still as well. And what about you now too? what are you realy like.. overly asssertivae or overly submissive..
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It is very likley that 20 percent of persons tend to have an exaggerated  opinion of themselves, an unreal  one, and they think they can readily teach others meaning acting like basic dictators, lords. oppressors over others, they are actually bullying others? In the process both of these inbalanced groups tend to try to teach others when clearly they themselves still do  have a lot to learn.. and the bullies need to take the beam out of their own eyes.. including learning humility.. for God realy still hates the proud hearted persons..
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
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It has been amazing to me that, as I look back into my own life, half of the oppressions I have witnessed in my life, and any oppression all of it tends to be an unacceptable human rights abuse now too, all oppressions are still unacceptable , these oppressions now came from the least expected places, from the Bullies within the church , even from bad pastors, bad elders, bad deacons, and also within my related control freaked or despotic family members, all now proving to me that many of these professing Christians persons were still not real Christians in fact. The other half of the oppressions, and all of it too was unacceptable, came from fellow employees, bad contacts, acquaintances, neighbour, civil and public servants, cops, RCMP.
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Being nice. kind, friendly to a really bad person is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser..
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In fact it is next impossible for anyone to try to to change others.  Dealing effectively with the bad Person, Stressful person- Alcoholics, Bullies, Abusers, Control freaks 
http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/dealing-effectively/
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Do also see
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
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Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.

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Num 16:1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men: 2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown: 3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD? Num 16:31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: 32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. 33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. 34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.

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(Prov 14:29 KJV) He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.

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(Prov 15:18 KJV) A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

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(Prov 16:32 KJV) He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

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(2 Pet 2:10 KJV) But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

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(Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

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(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

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(Psa 145:8 KJV) The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. (Nahum 1:3 KJV) The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

..TROUBLE MAKER OR A TIMID SHEEP or are you really Holy Spirit filled , led..

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October 30, 2011

Are you a real Christian,

(Rom 1:16 KJV)  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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   (Mat 19:29 KJV)  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 

NOW REALLY IS THERE A QUCIK IMMEDIATE, SIMPLE WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN OR IS IT A LIFE TIME PROCESS? AND WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP THAT I NEED TO TAKE? BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, READ THE BIBLE, PRACTISE IT AND PRAY, DO GOOD WORKS?

Jesus died for sinners on the cross, was buried, and rose from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4). His death was a sacrifice that turns away the wrath of God (1 John 2:2). This is the only way to be saved.

Jesus is the one who died for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). He is the only way to the God the Father (John 14;6). He alone reveals God (Matt. 11:27). He has all authority in heaven and earth (Matt. 28:18). It is only through Him that you can be saved from God’s wrath (Eph. 2:3). He can forgive you of your sin (Luke 5:20; Matt. 9:2). He can remove the guilt that is upon your soul. Jesus can set you free from the bondage of sin that blinds your eyes, weakens your soul, and brings you to despair. He can do this because He bore sin in His body on the cross (1 Peter. 2:24) that those who trust in Him would be saved. Jesus Christ now is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9), physically risen from the dead, Lord (Luke 24:34; John 2:19-21) and Savior (Acts 5:30-32). He came to die for sinners (Rom. 5:8) to deliver people from the righteous wrath of God upon us.

How do I firstly become a Christian?

Firstly unless you  admit you are an unholy person, a sinner before God and you  see your personal need of Salvation by Jesus Christ, but  next also give  all you own, have, and are, to the Lord Jesus Christ you will not become next a real Christian.. and that includes you giving up your  own plans, goals, ambitions, agendas, desires, aims..  One is a fool anyway who tries to keep what he cannot..   One also cannot become a Christian by having a negative attitude toward life, other religions, being an abstainer, refraining from drinking, smoking, swearing, adultery, idolatry, or kindred sins. Any sinner who stops sinning on his own is a sinner still. What he or she still needs is to become inside a new person, with a changed, cleansed heart, and a godly nature but the Holy Sprit of Jesus Christ alone does this if you meet his perquisites, requirements, conditions.

A FULL HONEST SALVATION GOSPEL INCLUDES now you accepting BOTH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR AND ALSO JESUS CHRIST AS HOLY SPIRIT BAPTIZER.

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The word christos means a person   HOLY SPIRIT  anointed  . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit, one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too.

Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”

But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27

Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,”

Disciples of Jesus Christ were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because evidentially their behavior, activity, and speech were anointed, Christ like. (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

The definition of a real Christian varies depending on who you talk to, and what type of church they attend as well.. but what did Jesus, the Apostles say a real Christian was, is? The devil even believes Jesus, God exists so what!! Being a Christian is more than your present personal head Knowledge, or beliefs, it is still a real, initial and personal experience with Jesus Christ like Apostle Paul had on the road to Damascus

Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: :4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? :5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. :6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. 19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus. 20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

If you are not a Christian, and want to be delivered from the righteous judgment of God upon you due to your sin against Him, then come to the One who died for the sins of the world. Come to the One who died for sinners (Matt. 11:28). Admit, confess, Turn from all of your sins. Believe and trust in Jesus. Receive Jesus, who is God in flesh, who died and rose from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4) as your personal Lord and Savior. Ask Jesus to forgive you now of all of your sins. Receive Christ (John 1:12). Only He can wash you clean from your sins and only Jesus can deliver you from the righteous judgment of a holy and infinite God. Pray to Jesus. Seek Him. Ask Him to save you. He will if you come to him humbly, sincerely and repentantly.

Now no one can make himself to be a real Christian. No, not by quantities of their good works or trying to live a moral life of the highest quality, not by their church attendance, water baptisms, good citizenship, higher education, charitable giving, burning candles, reciting prayers, amount of prayers, or even their studying the Bible, their Knowledge of the Bible now too, or thousands and one things of similar nature. Do you understand also this?

Are you now a real Christian, or a pretender, imposter still?   Sadly too Fundamentalist ,Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Charismatics, and other Protestants tend now to define “Christians”innclude only those persons who have been “born again”  negelcting them filled with the  Holy Spirit as well Fundamentalist Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Charismatics, and other Protestants tend now to define “Christians” very more narrowly to include only those persons who have been “born again” regardless of their present denomination. About 35% of the North American adult population identify themselves in this valid way. By some definitions, 75% of Americans are nominal Christians; but now by the other more valid definitions it is only about 30 percent are the real Christians. As simple as that too..

In recent decades, however, the real Christians have begun discerning the other true Christians from mere professing believers less by denomination and more by actual beliefs, not just by their personal religious commitment. “It’s a question of the heart: Has someone turned away from his own good works attemopts to make it to heaven and rather has put his trust in Jesus Christ to attain this and does he believe in the Full Gospel of Jesus that the Bible portrays?”

do see also http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/are-you-a-real-christian-or-a-pretender-imposter-still/

Unlike each of you, my own mind did not know, comprehend beforehand what God has in store, had prepared for us, or his requirements for us even to become a Christian, as well as to become Baptized in the Holy Sprit and much more.. Yes the True Christians even these days Are Holy Ghost Baptized and they know they have received such a personal experience.. even as evidenced by speaking in tongues

Keep in mind, there are two distinct phases of the one baptism in Christ. Jesus says in John 3:5 that ”Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” I repeat, water baptism is repentance, and spirit baptism is Holy Ghost fire and power. When we are truly Born Again (John 3:3), which is the Phase One baptism, there is a change in us that radiates on the outside of us, enabling all to see that something different has occurred in our lives. When we are truly Born Again, there is a new attitude towards The Lord Jesus Christ, toward His Word which becomes Spirit and life in us (John 6:63), making us, IF we will surrender, Believers who walk in of His Word. As one truly Born Again, we have a new attitude toward other Believers, toward prayer, toward life in general, toward death, and toward sin (hating it with a passion). When we are truly Born Again, dead to the old order in our lives – we start anew by not doing the things we used to do (nightclubs, alcohol, smoking, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, winking our eye at sin around us, cheating, stealing, lying, and so on).

The Holy Spirit of promise is the Spirit of truth that first removed the scales of darkness from our eyes and unstopped our ears so that we could then see and hear The Lord and come to accept the Gospel of salvation – Jesus the Messiah. We heard about Jesus, believed what we heard, and gave our lives to Him, but this was just the beginning work of the Holy Spirit of promise that Jesus spoke of before His death – but not all. Now that we have been transformed from darkness (sin/the world) to light (Christ, righteousness/faith, holiness), the work of the Holy Spirit continues. The Holy Spirit of promise guides us into the truths of the Word of God that we are to accept and believe in full (not partial), and act upon by walking in His Word. In being Born Again, the Word of God begins to open up to us, which is the Holy Spirit of promise kindling a hunger and thirst in us to want to go higher – to want to really please The Lord by way of our faith and obedience unto Him. This is part of the process of going beyond the “sealing” because we feel the necessity for or have the need for, something more in our walk with God. This is when being able to worship Him in spirit and in truth comes in; it fills that “something more” in our walk with God – it supplies that hunger down inside

Listen Up! Acts Is Speaking To You

he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire… (Luke 3:16).

This fire is God’s electrical charge in the spirit of the Believer – baptism in the Holy Ghost – Holy Ghost power. This is God’s presence and the instrument of His power.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses [the Word of God coupled with miracles, signs, and wonders] unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth (Acts 1:8).

This power is miraculous work through Jesus Christ for the Body of Christ/the Church to be witnesses of God’s existence and love. You, the Church, cannot be a true witness, especially during the end time harvest, without that “fire” that Christ baptizes with. Without it you are kidding yourself and you have been for a long time. “Playing church” is what you’ve been doing. (Being without Holy Ghost baptism is why the Body of Christ is in such deep apostasy and has been for hundreds of years, but super worse now.)

God’s Holy Spirit takes control of your life because you now have totally surrendered your will and His Holy Spirit is now in you, possessing you. Aside from wanting and asking for Holy Ghost fire baptism, it is imperative that you first be a broken and willing vessel with an obedient spirit as Acts 5:32 speaks of…

And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost whom God hah given to them that obey him (Acts 5:32).

Beloved, Paul repented of his sinful ways and got his sight back, and was filled with the Holy Ghost by the laying on of Ananias‘ hands. It was this Holy Ghost fire baptism that equipped Paul to do the great work of The Lord’s to the Gentiles. This same Holy Ghost fire baptism is a must for you as a Believer, to enable you to worship God in spirit and in truth, be faithful/righteous, be obedient, and live and work in the Kingdom.

SEE ALSO

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/true-christians-are-holy-ghost-baptized/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/behold-the-lamb-of-god-jesus/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

October 27, 2011

God still speaks outside of the Bible as well

 

 

Sadly too many Christians too are so busy working and also so worrying about how to change the others, but are they themselves firstly now even walking in the right path? 95 percent of Christians do not read the Bible or pray more than 5 minutes a day shows the basic Christian problem here too

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Many persons lie and say God basically was no longer involved in the things of this world, and/or that there was no’s such things as God personally speaking to us where we can hear his voice, where have a direct conversation what him, and there were no miracles of healing, no baptism of the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit, no holy spirit gifts . Boy where they really really wrong here too.

Imagine now instead that you too even can actually hear God’s voice and his specific instructions to you instead of hearing your own voice and the lusts of the flesh or the Devil’s voice

It is amazing that when want an immediate confirmation of God’s will in anywhere, I pick  up the phone (the Holy Bible) and next I Talk to him and Listen to Him as well while I am reading the Bible and he specially replies.

TOO  MANY PEOPLE FALSELY LIE AND SAY, CLAIM THEY HAVE FAITH IN GOD, BUT THE REALITY OF THAT CLAIM LIES IN THE ACTUAL DEGREE OF PERSONAL FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE NOW.

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As Jesus himself had said.. John 15:1    I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

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HOW EASY IS IT TO HEAR GOD’S VOICE.. THAT  MORE I DESIRE TO HEAR HIM THE EASIERT IT IS THAT SO DO.. AS GOD SAID IF YOU SEEK ME WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART YOU WILL FIND ME. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/how-to-be-filled-with-the-holy-spirit/

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To the experienced, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that  the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well..
 
(Psa 31:3 KJV)  For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name’s sake lead me, and guide me.
 
(Isa 49:10 KJV)  They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
 
(John 14:17 KJV)  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
 
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
 
(John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
 
(1 John 4:6 KJV)  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
 
We all still  CONTINUALY DO NEED TO  trust the Holy Spirit as the main Teacher given by God to internet and to make His word clearer to us.
 
“God then began to show me that the word of God alone is our standard of judgment in spiritual things; that it can be explained only by the Holy Spirit; and that in our day, as well as in former times.  He is the Teacher of His people.  The office of the Holy Spirit I had not experimentally understood before that time. It was my beginning to understand this latter point in particular, which had a great effect on me; for the Lord enabled me to put it to the test of experience, by laying aside commentaries, and almost every other book and simply reading the word  of God and studying it. I learned more in a few hours than I had done during a period of several months previously.”  George Müller (1805-1898) 

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Romans 8:1 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.3 …For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you .

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Firstly what laws did the people follow now before Moses , or what laws of God were applicable  before Moses to all?

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Between the time of Adam and Moses, everyone also still sinned. They were mostly still ignoring God, going their own ways, doing things. God did not want them to do. God’s law existed, even though really they had not been written down, and everyone was transgressing it. Therefore, death ruled over them all, even if they did not break a specific command in the way that Adam did.


They followed or disobeyed the laws of the Holy Spirit.

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All normal humans have a conscience, a natural inbuilt sense of right and wrong. This is what Paul refers to in Romans 2:14-15. By nature, God has written a moral sense, a law, into human hearts. Their understanding of right and wrong is not perfect, but every sane person has at least a basic concept of right and wrong, of love and selfishness. Although everyone falls short, some people do have good behavior as compared to others. By nature, they do things that are required in God’s law — not the rituals of Moses, but the more general requirements of the law that existed before Moses.

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Next the laws of Moses were still only applicable to all Jews, not the gentiles..  laws like “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”  Leviticus 20:13  

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Gentiles they still followed or disobeyed the laws of the Holy Spirit.

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WHEN JESUS CAME HE CLARIFIED WHAT OLD TESTAMENT LAWS WERE NOW APPLICABLE TO ALL PERSONS, JEWS AND GENTILES

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So let’s first see some biblical examples of how easy it is to miss God.

-Jacob went to sleep unaware that he was literally lying over the very gateway of heaven (Genesis 28:11-17).

-Young Samuel could not distinguish the Lord’s voice from that of the man he served every day (1 Samuel 3:4-5).

-Multiplied thousands of people rubbed shoulders with the Son of God. They heard teaching like no one had ever given. They saw miracles that took their breath away. And almost none of them had a clue as to who he was.

-For miles, the resurrected Jesus walked and talked with two of his disciples, and they never realized who was speaking to them. ‘ . . . they were kept from recognizing him.’ The moment they discovered who it was, he vanished (Luke 24:13-31).

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But we all still do have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear.
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 Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others, or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and often rather making it a lot worse.
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There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: thinking the Bible is solely the Word of God,  There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: by thinking the Bible is the Word of God alone, and thinking that all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer solely  to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God  personally speaking to you. If you don’t also listen to the Voice of God, you will never really  grow; you will never know from what to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God or his will and plan for you; and you will not have any final reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ. You will never make it to Heaven but still only to Hell.

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You can memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, and it will gain you nothing with God. It is easy to read the Bible. It often feels good to read the Bible, as long as you discount all the requirements such as holiness, perfection, and purity while ignoring the disqualifications of anger, lust, immorality, impurity, greed, etc. The Bible wasn’t even printed until 1516, but the early church thrived for 300 plus years without it. Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. For he calls us all to repentance, Christhood, and the Kingdom of Heaven.

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Hear this! Understand, the Bible is not the Word of God, for the many scriptures that refer to the Word of God are not referring to the Bible, but rather to the voice of God or the Lord – his words from him, the living spirit Word – otherwise you are looking to the wrong source of growth – a book, instead of God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26. He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

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And this is why placing the Bible as the sole emphasis in worship is not only  inadequate (the crumbs under the table), but potentially heretical (the  Pharisees pride in biblical knowledge).

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Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat 4:4

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 There is no valid, real spiritual life without hearing words from the mouth of God.

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Many persons have a godly desire to serve the lord to become Apostles, Prophets pastors-teachers, evangelism, elders. The best way they can prepare themselves for this is firstly giving themselves all unto God and learning to hear God speaking to them.. Surprising ring how many professing Christian people do not still hear God personally speaking to them. Tragic that most so called Christians don’t hear the voice of God and are not really led by him at all. As they definately don’t wait upon the Lord including Pentecostals.
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(1 Sam 3:10 KJV) And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant hearth.
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In our fast food, take control society Nobody wants to wait. It would be easier to quit on a need than wait.
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But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 40:31  The Lord is saying to us that if we wait upon Him, we will not be tired, we will not be frustrated, and all of His tasks will be accomplished in the perfect amount of time;
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How can I be more spiritual? How can I tap into the hidden wisdom of God that will bring forth my breakthrough? The key is hearing God’s voice behind His written Word.
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To identify God’s voice, we must actively communicate with Him. If we want to hear from Him, we must fellowship with Him through regular praise and worship, even by meditation on His Word and our consistent prayers. 
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Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now.. The other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.
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As Believers who have been Baptized with the Holy Spirit, we can also speak to God by praying or speaking in tongues. Through praying in the Spirit, we speak the very mysteries that could unlock the answers to the situations we face in life! By speaking in tongues and praying for the interpretation it we get divine revelation Knowledge imparted by God directly to each one of us. There is something miraculous powerful that happens when we spend time communicating with God, praying in tongues. It is often during these quiet times that we do even hear the voice of God speaking truth and wisdom directly from Heaven.;
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I also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one.. Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes mutual communication. The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance. We still cannot make our on views, experience now still as God’s rule for everyone else. But many people do. Some people wrongfully do claim that God today can only speak to each one of us personally, to all of us through his written Word the Bible, cause that is all they have experienced maybe? but in fact I am very sure that these very same people God often cannot still even personally reach them firstly even by his Word… you know that is why so many people read the Bible and have different interpretations, doctrines, denominations even cause it is really not God who is talking to them through it… mere man is or self or the devil.. And yet many Bible scholars, pastors who know the Bible are blind to God’s truths and yet they know the Word on the outside.. their real inadequacy is that they really still do not, did not know God on a deep personal level, they have not communicated with Him and thus they are still in the wilderness themselves still. It is one thing to know the Word, but it is another thing to know the Author himself. How well do you know the author, not just his writings?
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Some people sadly are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and they will fail at it still too. (Psa 66:18 KJV) If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: That iniquity can still be operating in the the kingdom of self.. If any will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23 
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“There was a day when I died;
died to self, my opinions, preferences, tastes and will;
died to the world, its approval or censure;
died to the approval or blame even of my brethren or friends;
and since then I have studied only
to show myself approved unto God.”
(George Mueller)
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He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6
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Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.
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Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways.
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There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all God’s general will.
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There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular situation. We have to be open to both ways too.
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(John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
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The manner of God speaking to us through Scripture has much not to do with what we are we mainly desire to know, or what personally are dealing with at the time but what he wants to reveals to us.
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We are always slaves, servants of God who listen to his will, his instructions above all. But don’t personally read into the Bible as to what is being said rather first listen to Him, God, the Holy Spirit explaining next the scriptures to you personally. Allow the Scripture to “leap off the page” at you, as receive his divine revelation, and His Bible passages take on a meaning that you hadn’t noticed maybe even a moment earlier. There can be a passage of time between the initial reading of logos before it becomes rhema . One might as well read the same Scripture over and over again, and then next one day it “speaks”. This act of divine speaking, revelation of God through his Word is called “rhema” in the original Greek language of the New Testament.
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The WHOLE Church is to also encourage the personal development of gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophecy. I was surprised to read it is not just only today that some people object to anyone prophesying… it is still the devil who is behind this objection.. he does not want anyone to know, experience the power of God
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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(1 Cor 14:13 KJV) Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (And no exceptions now too)
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(Num 11:24 KJV) And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!
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(1 Cor 14:26 KJV) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible they often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.
(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
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I can remember one time I was really depressed standing in the hall by a door and I openly had said to God that if Heaven is like hell on earth then I do not want to go to heaven.. God immediately, immediately spoke to me and said Heaven is nothing at all like hell or earth for nothing evil, bad will ever enter into Heaven.. Men have often disappointed me here on earth, but God does not let us down, we are blessed in full when we have a relationship with him. (John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
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I have seen a lot in the last 50 years, MANY REAL miracles too, but I have noticed often now too that absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing brings me as much joy AS when Jesus talks to ME, in fact HIS TALKING TO ME it often next becomes an overflowing stream of joy and peace.
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The false demotion of the Holy Spirit is sadly a reality amongst too many Christians is still demonically inspired as well ..

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True Christians believe that God reveals himself through more than the inspired words and thoughts and books. Words and thoughts and books, even when they are divinely inspired, are inadequate to reveal God’s person. What distinguishes us as Christians is that we believe that God revealed Himself uniquely in Jesus Christ.

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The Bible still is not superior to Jesus and the Bible is not equal to Jesus as divine revelation.

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Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation. To the experience, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well.

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The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life now next turn even to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Spirit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They instead now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, Jesus alone, himself.

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For example: “The Mainstream Baptists have repeatedly warned that Southern Baptists were being led into Bible idolatry… the Living Word of God is being subordinated to the written word. The Bible has become an idol and the uniqueness of Christian revelation has been undermined.Sadly even other denominations, groups are really falsely also now doing the same wrong things.. for there is great danger that most of these persons will subordinate the Living Word of God to the fallible interpretations of men, the false worship of mere men, objects too…

(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

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(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

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(Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

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(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

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(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

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We all are told to come to Jesus directly..
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 God’s voice and spiritual gifts are not the only thing the devil blinds many people too;;
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see also
http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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Follow after God alone and not mere man… God still speaks too …

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 There are many different voices available to us today to listen to still, even the voice of the enemy, the devil and his followers.. or own voices and finally God’s voice. Learning how to listen to and listen daily, continually to God’s voice is not optional too. Now God still speak to us through his word, the Bible, but God also still speak to us by His Holy Spirit as well. When you talk about what the scripture DO say you honestly should mean how you interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..

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(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

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(Jer 6:16 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.

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But they said, We will not walk therein
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/learing-to-listen-to-the-voice-of-the-lord/

October 17, 2011

No abuse is acceptable.. Zero tolerance

Abused! How much abuse is acceptable? None!

Abused! How much abuse is acceptable? None! If you are being abused do not hesitate ASAP to expose it to all, to call the police, human rights courts, news media.

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And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Cor 13:3 KJV)

Matt 32:29 You shall love your neighbour as yourself.. and that means you will do him no harm now too.

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And who are these abusers? why is is that they so readily abuse others now too? They tend to be persons who have their own value system, and clearly also a lack of love for others, and a lack of love for their jobs now as well. In case you did not notice it I do not accept any physical, verbal, mental, human rights abuses by anyone of anyone and I rightfully do instead demand their full, open exposure and public prosecution now as well and no matter who they are, Prime Minister, Premier, MP, MNA, MLA, MPP, Doctors, lawyers, cops, pastors, etc..

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Yes Abuse is something we all often encounter and do not know how to deal with it? Well do not hesitate to call the police, the news media and report it..

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1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

Romans 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

1 Corinthians 13: 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

James 1: 19    Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20    For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21    Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23    For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24    For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25    But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26    If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27    Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

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Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too..The abuser too often tries to make the victim look as they are guilty ones, and that too is always unacceptable http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/abused-how-much-abuse-is-acceptable-none/

‘Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the really bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as   to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

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There are many types of Unacceptable abuses too. Recently in a five month period I had almost daily encounter with geriatric hospitals and old age homes and I was shocked NOW OFTEN to find out that there were poor, pretentious, inadequate hospitals and bad old age homes, in contrast with the well managed, kind, decent, effective, good  hospitals and good old age homes, and I started to wonder why there was such a glaring, vast difference.. and of course “money the root of all evil” had come into the pictures, for those managers who were more concerned about making more money, getting a raise, PROMOTION, advancement,  now also  too readily allowed the patients to be wrongfully abused!     http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/controlfreaks

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Did you know that sibling rivalry, abuse is one of the most common forms of family violence? Siblings will use physical violence because they have learned it from their parents, a bad mother or a bad father,  or other adults. In fact, one study found that 76% of the children who were repeatedly abused by their parents also abused their siblings.. and their spouse next too

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Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too.. ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ?

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One of the thing that has caught me by surprised were the proposed solutions for the abuse.. some were really unacceptable, such as accepting the abusers and merely forgiving them when God himself does not.. anyone doubt this, look at God’s Punishment of the Apostle Paul specially for his past abuse of the Christians now too.

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Acts 19 10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. 11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, 12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. 13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: 14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. 15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.

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I  also do know from observing others that anyone’s abusing a Christian can lead to one’s early death. I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible  Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that

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“Coptic Christians & Persecution. 6 days ago, Coptic Christians in Cairo experienced an attack while protesting restrictions that have been put on building churches as well as protesting an attack on a church in southern Egypt. My daughter’s friend, Sarah, a journalist, had an eye-witness account of the event as it occurred at a large building that houses Egyptian radio and television, Maspero. Her account brought tears to my eyes.http://communicatingacrossboundariesblog.com/2011/10/16/coptic-christians-persecution / .

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Yes sometimes it is ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ?  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/why-does-the-canadian-government-try-to-sleep-with-the-murderers-because-of-the-oil-still/  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-continually-bad-rcmp/

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I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that

Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too.

Everyone needs to set boundaries on what is acceptable behavior. No verbal abuses, no bullying, no lying, no foul languages, no hitting or other violence should be allowed. Another step parents can take to prevent abuse between siblings is to model their own respectful behavior in your family. Children learn how to interact with others by observing them.

Hate and Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse. Hate, Verbal or physical abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too …

Now I too have learned the great secret in helping bad people to personally repent or to change their wicked ways.. the public exposure and the demand of their rightful prosecuting, dismissal of the same wicked persons, as well as their bad superiors, and generally best done not by a phone call, but rather done in writing, with many copies to the right parties, news media, ministers, elected officials and the general public next too even such as those you do eventually see on my web blogs

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

I have learned a long time ago that public exposure and prosecution of the abusers serves everyone’s best interests

Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.

The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also in religious fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON, POPULAR TOPICS, SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET is can a Christian next get divorced and remarried, and the simple answer is no! but wait do not stop reading yet.. if you are married, living to a demon, a control freak, a liar, a lazy good for nothing abusive person then please now do immediately get out of the marriage, do get an immediate separation.. and this not the kind of advice you would expect from a preacher of peace and love, but I am telling you all this for our own good, and you can thank me later.. and maybe next the still good for nothing bum, lousy spouse, he or she will wake up as to what she is really like and they may try to get help to change herself, himself.. but meanwhile don’t feel guilty about the peace you now have in your life.. By the way make sure first you are not the creepy, a good for nothing spouse yourself otherwise by your actions you will be doing your own spouse a great, great service. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/throw-the-bum-out/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

Isaiah 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. 2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God. 3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. 8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein. 9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there: 10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/promises-from-god-for-the-abused-oppressed/

October 22, 2010

Help in identifying-spiritual-abuse –

“First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership.

Second, the leaders of such churches often use manipulation to gain complete submission from their members.

Third, there is a rigid, legalistic lifestyle involving numerous requirements and minute details for daily life.

Fourth, these churches tend to change their names often, especially once they are exposed by the media.

Fifth, denouncing other churches is common because they see themselves as superior to all other churches.

Sixth, these churches have a persecution complex and view themselves as being persecuted by the world, the media, and other Christian churches. Seventh, abusive churches specifically target young adults between eighteen and twenty-five years of age.

The eighth mark of abusive churches is the great difficulty members have in getting out of or leaving these churches, a process often marked by social, psychological, or emotional pain.”

Abusive churches do not hesitate to kick out or to divorce people who do not go along with them

The Watchman Fellowship has identified five hallmarks of abusive religious systems. They are:

– Authoritarian: unconditional submission to leaders is expected.

– Averse to criticism: the person who dissents becomes the problem rather than the issue being raised.

– Image conscious: protecting the reputation of the leaders or church is more important than truth or justice.

– Perfectionistic: individual worth is determined by performance; there is no compassion for weakness or failure.

– Unbalanced: they will try to distinguish themselves from other groups by putting excessive emphasis on some minor point of theology.

Wikipedia notes that spiritual abuse “includes any of the following”:

– Psychological and emotional abuse

– Any act by deeds or words that demean, humiliate or shame the natural worth and dignity of a person as a human being

– Submission to spiritual authority without any right to disagree; intimidation

– Unreasonable control of a person’s basic right to make a choice on spiritual matters

– False accusation and repeated criticism by negatively labeling a person as disobedient, rebellious, lacking faith, demonized, apostate, enemy of the church or God

– Prevention from practicing faith

– Isolation or separation from family and friends due to religious affiliation

– Physical abuse that includes physical injury, deprivation of sustenance, and sexual abuse

– Exclusivity; dismissal of an outsider’s criticism and labeling an outsider as of the devil

– Withholding information and giving of information only to a selected few

– Conformity to a dangerous or unnatural religious view and practice

– Hostility that includes shunning (relational aggression, parental alienation) and persecution

http://hevencense.wordpress.com/church-abuse/

I TOO still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

(Prov 27:2 KJV) Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

(1 Cor 14:33 KJV) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

(James 3:16 KJV) For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/

Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies

WELCOME TO THE VERBAL ABUSE SITE http://www.verbalabuse.com/

Jesus helps us to recover even from the bad Church abuses, bad pastors too..

see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/dispensationalists-plymouth-brethren/

… You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free..

 

May 29, 2008

The Tithe

Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are wall mounted crucifix and their public prayers.

Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe…  https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/the-not-so-secret/

The Catholic church collects tithes, but so do many evangelical churches, and some cults too.. even though tithes is applicable only in the Old Testament and to the Jewish persons only too.  The Tithe in the new Testament is voluntary, non compulsive..  but the problem also today still is that many of the people who collect the tithe, violate often the OT laws on tithing and do  steal from the tithe as well.. the OT had specified 1/7 of the tithe had to be given to the poor.. something the present  tithe collectors do not mention, do not preach nor practise wrongfully in reality..

I have been a church secretary now in my life as well and here I had thus also first  learned that not everyone in the church is honest, not just about financial matters now too. 

 
While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
 

 

(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

I admit I have been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are , as well as the professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.

I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too.. But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..  and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

Being a professional Engineer I was used to the Organization Chart. So when I had joined the local Fellowship Baptist Church I asked the pastor 3 simple, basic  questions..
 
1: Pastor can you defend your role, position from the Bible..
The response was yes, the Bible says the pastor is a captain of the ship… oops that was a Scofield note.. not the Bible itself.. many people seem to believe Scofield over the Bible
 
2: Next I asked him, the pastor if there was such as an an empowering to be able to live a Christian Life, and he responded no! Unbelievable, he has been in the dark ages so long too!
 
3: Pastor do you know for sure God called you into the Ministry? Answer no!!
 
Sadly I interviewed next many Canadian pastors in my life, and most were not any better too. 

Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches not not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.

Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.

Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….  

You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.

Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected representatives too. You do not need a useless, costly organization even to do this firstly.

It seems these days that even the Citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.

and to all of those evangelical  distorters too, cheap skates, unloving persons, incompassionate ones.. as even per the Book of Acts the Church of Jesus Christ while it did not enforce the tithe, it did set up deacons, collection of money  weekly to help the local poor people even in the local church.. something all pastors, evangelists  should be  enforcing now still  today too… not rather stealing the money for themselves, falsely living high on the hog..

 Just like  for soical aid benfefitst the  Old Testament Levites, and the poor persons who could enjoy  the benefits of the tithes they do  not own  or could not own any land, or a house. The Lord God  stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to a tithe too. 

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 2 5 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
 
 (1 Cor 10:24 KJV)  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth.
 
and that means caring about their physical well being now as well. 
 (Isa 58:6 KJV)  Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7  Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?(Dan 4:27 KJV)  Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.(Mat 10:42 KJV)  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Mat 25:37 KJV)  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
 
No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
 
 
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/false/

NOW AS TO THE SUPPOSED JUSTIFICATIONS FOR TITHING TODAY OR THE OPPOSITION TO IT TOO…  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html
 
>>your false assertion of “70 percent of pastors in ALL denominations
 
One calling me a liar indicates firstly that this  PASTOR himself  has a  serious personal problems.. he now should get his  needed professional help first.
 
I do not debate the truth.. or his  ignorance..  nor do I debate with fools.. simply ask most people and they will say the pastors, evangelist  these days are mostly bad!
 
NEXT THESE FALSE PERSONAL ATTACKS  OF ME ARE MADE BY REALLY BAD PEOPLE    IN DENIAL  WHO CANNOT FACE NEGATIVE REALTIES AND TRUTHS..
 
and they should get a real life with Jesus first too… instead of repenting the still  foolish persons try to deny their sins.
 
Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, they seem to do the same things too.
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/
  
(Neh 4:7 KJV)  But it came to pass, that when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth, 8 And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it. 9  Nevertheless we made our prayer unto our God, and set a watch against them day and night, because of them.
 
It is still interesting reality that when the truth is preached, proclaimed the devil will always try to challenge it next, by sending someone to dispute it, stop the work of God. We see plenty examples of the devil’s followers doing this also in the Bible in the book of Nehemiah as well. yes if the devil cannot stop you himself, discourage , detour  you with his evil spirits, he will use one of his demon possessed earthly  followers in human form, some backslider even,  next to do it, even the wolves in sheep clothing too. To whom we give no attention not even for one minute.
  
(Mat 6:1 KJV)  Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 16:6 KJV)  Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
 
(Mat 18:10 KJV)  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 24:4 KJV)  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
 
(Mark 4:24 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
 
(Mark 13:9 KJV)  But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
 
(Mark 13:23 KJV)  But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
 
(Mark 13:33 KJV)  Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
 
(Luke 11:35 KJV)  Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
 
(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Luke 21:8 KJV)   Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
 
(Luke 21:34 KJV)  And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
 
(Acts 20:28 KJV)  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
 
(Rom 11:21 KJV)  For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
 
(1 Cor 3:10 KJV)  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
 
(1 Cor 8:9 KJV)  But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
 
(1 Cor 10:12 KJV)  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
 
(Gal 5:15 KJV)  But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
(Col 4:17 KJV)   Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.
 
(1 Tim 1:4 KJV)  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
 
(1 Tim 4:1 KJV)  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
 
(1 Tim 4:16 KJV)  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
 
(Titus 1:14 KJV)  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
 
(Heb 2:1 KJV)  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
 
(Heb 3:12 KJV)  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
 
(2 Pet 1:19 KJV)  We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
  
 
(2 Cor 4:5 KJV)  For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
(2 Cor 4:8 KJV)  We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
 
(2 Cor 4:9 KJV)  Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
 
(2 Cor 4:10 KJV)  Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
 
(2 Cor 4:11 KJV)  For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
 
(2 Cor 5:1 KJV)  For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
 
(2 Cor 5:2 KJV)  For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
 
(2 Cor 5:3 KJV)  If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
 
(2 Cor 5:4 KJV)  For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
 
(2 Cor 5:5 KJV)  Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
 
(2 Cor 5:6 KJV)  Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
 
(2 Cor 5:7 KJV)  (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
 
(2 Cor 5:8 KJV)  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 5:9 KJV)  Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
 
(2 Cor 5:10 KJV)  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
 
(2 Cor 5:11 KJV)  Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
   
 
(Rom 4:8 KJV)  Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
 
(Rom 9:28 KJV)  For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
 
(Rom 12:11 KJV)  Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;
 
(Rom 12:19 KJV)  Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
 
(Rom 13:14 KJV)  But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
 
(Rom 14:8 KJV)  For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
 
(Rom 14:11 KJV)  For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
 
(Rom 15:30 KJV)  Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;
 
(1 Cor 1:3 KJV)  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
(1 Cor 1:31 KJV)  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
 
(1 Cor 2:8 KJV)  Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
 
(1 Cor 2:16 KJV)  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
 
(1 Cor 3:5 KJV)  Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
 
(1 Cor 3:20 KJV)  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
 
(1 Cor 4:4 KJV)  For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
(1 Cor 11:32 KJV)  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
 
(1 Cor 12:3 KJV)  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
 
(1 Cor 14:37 KJV)  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
 
(1 Cor 15:47 KJV)  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
 
(1 Cor 15:58 KJV)  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
 
(2 Cor 6:18 KJV)  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
 
(2 Cor 8:5 KJV)  And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.
 
(2 Cor 8:21 KJV)  Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.
 
(2 Cor 10:17 KJV)  But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 10:18 KJV)  For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.
 
(Gal 5:10 KJV)  I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.
 
(Gal 6:17 KJV)  From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
 
(Eph 4:1 KJV)  I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
 
(Eph 4:17 KJV)  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
 
(Eph 5:8 KJV)  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
 
(Eph 5:10 KJV)  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 5:17 KJV)  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
 
(Eph 5:19 KJV)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
 
(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 6:1 KJV)  Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
 
(Eph 6:4 KJV)  And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
 
(Eph 6:7 KJV)  With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
 
(Eph 6:8 KJV)  Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
 
(Eph 6:10 KJV)  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
 
(Phil 3:1 KJV)  Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
 
(Phil 3:20 KJV)  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
 
(Phil 4:1 KJV)  Therefore, my brethren, dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.
 
(Phil 4:4 KJV)  Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.
 
(Phil 4:5 KJV)  Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
 
(Col 1:10 KJV)  That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
 
(Col 2:6 KJV)  As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
 
(Col 3:16 KJV)  Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
 
(Col 3:17 KJV)  And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
 
(Col 3:23 KJV)  And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
 
(Col 3:24 KJV)  Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
 
(1 Th 4:2 KJV)  For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
 
(1 Th 4:6 KJV)  That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
 
(1 Th 5:2 KJV)  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
 
(2 Th 1:7 KJV)  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
 
(2 Th 1:9 KJV)  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
 
(2 Th 2:8 KJV)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
 
(2 Th 2:13 KJV)  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
 
(2 Th 3:3 KJV)  But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
 
(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
 
(2 Tim 2:19 KJV)  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
 
(2 Tim 2:22 KJV)  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
 
(2 Tim 2:24 KJV)  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
 
(2 Tim 4:14 KJV)  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
 
(2 Tim 4:17 KJV)  Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
 
(2 Tim 4:18 KJV)  And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
(Rev 14:13 KJV)  And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
 
(Rev 19:1 KJV)  And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
 
(Rev 19:6 KJV)  And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
 
(Rev 21:22 KJV)  And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
 
(Rev 22:5 KJV)  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.  

May 28, 2008

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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

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May 25, 2008

We Stand as One with Israel

Filed under: Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 8:46 am

We Stand as One with Israel’s need  to be saved even today by Jesus Christ alone.

Sixty years ago  a nation of Israel was re born in a day . Was this an act of the flesh? or an approved act of God?  but there is  no new Tesament justifcation for it though.. why?

 Emaciated Jews from 1945 to 1948, stumbled out of Europe’s death camps liberated by the Allies, but they had no place to go. Their homes and possessions were destroyed or confiscated and their family members murdered. Many of the survivors believed that the only place in the world they might find safety again would be back in their ancient homeland – the land of Israel.  But they never did find that safety and never will not while they continue to reject Jesus Christ as their personal savior, as their rightful messiah. ‘
 
(Acts 2:21 KJV)  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.  22  Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

   
Distorted, Isolated verse from the old testament are often taken to justify Israel’s return to the promise land, while there still is not one new testament verse supporting this return at all and why? The land solely belongs to Jesus Christ firstly now.. he alone had redeemed it.
  
(Mat 23:36 KJV)  Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. 24:1  And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2  And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3  And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8  All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. 10  And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17  Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18  Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19  And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. 23  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25  Behold, I have told you before. 26  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27  For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28  For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32  Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35  Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37  But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  40  Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41  Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42  Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44  Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45  Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46  Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47  Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48  But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49  And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 

Is 22:20 And in that day I will call My servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah.  21 And I will clothe him with your robe and will bind your girdle on him and will commit your authority to his hand; he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.  22 And the key of the house of David I will lay upon his shoulder; he shall open and no one shall shut, he shall shut and no one shall open.  23 And I will fasten him like a peg {or} nail in a firm place; and he will become a throne of honor {and} glory to his father’s house.  24 And they will hang on him the honor {and} the whole weight of [responsibility for] his father’s house: the offspring and issue [of the family, high and low], every small vessel, from the cups even to all the flasks {and} big bulging bottles.  25 In that day, says the Lord of hosts, the nail {or} peg that was fastened into the sure place shall give way {and} be moved and be hewn down and fall, and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off; for the Lord has spoken it.
 
Here it is very clear in the Old Testament too – God has transferred all of the ownership, rulership  kingship of Israel to Jesus Christ himself

Prophecy

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>>”‘Be eager to prophesy’ (39). Preaching God’s Word to the people is important. It is not everything. It is to be accompanied by prayer and praise. Many come to hear ‘the preacher’. Few gather to pray that the whole service of worship will be filled with the presence of the Lord. Some come to hear a ‘sermon’. They show little real enthusiasm for worshipping the Lord. They want ‘the Word’. There is no real heart for worship, witness, and work. The preacher’s public performance becomes more important than the prayerful praise of God’s people. ‘All things’ are ‘done decently and in order’ yet the atmosphere is forbidding. The Spirit of God is not moving freely among the people of God (39-40). Let there be less talking about the preacher and more concern with giving all the praise and glory to the Lord.”
 
There is a lot of good meat in this short passage too.  Prophecy is certainly not defined in the Bible, in the new Testament  as solely preaching God’s word from the Bible but it does not contradict the Bible .. and prophecy  is not solely   telling the future.. or is just telling about the second coming of Jesus Christ back to earth, the great tribulation comming next too on earth.. Prophecy it is a present divinely led personal utterance from God, a specific word for his people, it is also the interpretation in an understandable language of a prayer in tongues..
 
(Rom 12:6 KJV)  Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
  
And this post is so true, a Holy Sprit led service is activated firstly by prayer, praise and worship of God  and next it is also unpredictable, fresh, alive, so very different from the boring, rigid sermonized approaches we do these days have in many churches.
 
“Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.  A lion has roared! Who will not fear?  The Lord God has spoken!  Who can but prophesy?”  Amos 3:7,8
 
(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40  Let all things be done decently and in order.      
  
(1 Cor 14:13 KJV)  Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
 
(Rev 19:10 KJV)  And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
 
All Prophecy always exalts the Lord Jesus Christ and not any man, person, denomination..
 
(1 Cor 14:26 KJV)  How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34  Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35  And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40  Let all things be done decently and in order. (John 10:27 KJV)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:The other Other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.  Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways. There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all  God’s general will. There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular  situation. We have to be open to both ways too.                

Prophecy is certainly not defined in the Bible, in the new Testament  as solely preaching God’s word from the Bible but it does not contradict the Bible .. and prophecy  is not solely   telling the future.. or is just telling about the second coming of Jesus Christ back to earth, the great tribulation coming next too on earth.. Prophecy it is a present divinely led personal utterance from God, a specific word for his people, it is also the interpretation in an understandable language of a prayer in tongues..

PROPHECY IS PERSONALLY PROCLAIMING DIRECTLY GOD’S WORD SPECIFICALLY FOR A SPECIFIC GROUP.. Not necessarily now even Israel, but the Church, individual Believers.

You do not have to be a Prophet to prophecy, in fact all believers are encouraged to use the gift of prophecy firstly too. (John 17:21 KJV)  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (1 Cor 14:31 KJV)  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.  (Rev 19:10 KJV)  And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

All Prophecy always exalts the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Christian People who have learned to use faithfully the gifts of prophecy tend to become God true Prophets. God’s prophets ALSO TOO do work two ways. Most of the time, they speak forth God’s will in accordance with Scripture. At certain times, they will EVEN foretell future events.  In real life, prophecy works like a combination of the Word of Wisdom and Faith. The prophet operates in the Lord’s wisdom, and speaks in faith in obedience to the Holy Spirit.

There are also false prophesying.
 
(Jer 2:8 KJV)  The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.
 
Remember
   
(2 Cor 5:10 KJV)  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
 
(Rev 22:12 KJV)  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 

May 23, 2008

Good and Bad Unacceptable theology

Good  acceptable  theology
 
Holy Spirit  Here are some great articles on the Holy Spirit
The Faith Posted by: thenonconformer | May 20, 2008

 (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

        
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
 
Dispensationalism, IS FALSE BUT IT IS A GREAT MONEY MAKER, for IT SELLS A LOT OF BOOKS, TAPES, MOVIES TO THE IGNORANT, to all those persons who do not read the bible honestly for themslves.. it is a great cash cow.
 
Isn’t it ironically and hypocritical while there is only one Bible many Christians ALSO cannot agree on the role of Israel today and in the future, and many cannot agree on the role of the Holy Sprit now as well.
 
 A house divided against itself cannot stand (Mark 3:25)  applies to  Churches, and our homes, and our marriages too.
(Prov 16:19 KJV)  Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
 
All these Dispensationalist have to quote solely it seems the Old testament to support their views? what their views are not confirmed by Jesus and the apostles?
 
I had talked face to face with now an ex president of the Canadian Christian Missionary alliance on this too.. the only thing he could confirm for sure in prophecy from the Bible was the return of Jesus Christ… the rest was filled with contradictions, controversies still
 
The subject of Israel’s prophecy made Daniel sick too..(Dan 8:27 KJV)  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
(Dan 12:4 KJV)  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
 
IF Daniel WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DEAL WITH IT HOW CAN ANYONE ELSE?
 
People would be better of living the  life of Christ today (Mat 6:34 KJV)  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 
The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America.  I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too.
 
For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
  
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected officals.
           

The Bad Unacceptable  theology

Dispensationalism

Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the  THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.

Incidentally because of Rev. Hagee’s  false views on Israel  I have from the start rightfully not supported Rev. Hagee’s endorsement of US senator McCain  “I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.”  22 May 2008  This is the same John Hagee whose support John McCain was originally  “glad” to have despite “condemning” some of his views.      

 Hagee’s views on Israel supposedly have nothing to do with Israel’s best interests and everything to do with Hagee’s own interest in promoting his own radical viewpoints. Hagee is opposed to territorial concessions for peace and a two-state solution.   He is outspoken in his support for military action against Iran. [  He raises money to build illegal Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories and opposes a shared Jerusalem. 

Senator McCain’s  past embrace of John Hagee spoke poorly of his judgment of personal character, it calls into question whether he has any understanding of what it really will take to bring about peace and security in the Middle East.

Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/

The  bad fruits of Christian Zionism Of great significance that John Hagee and his scantly veiled two-covenant theology has overlooked in pursuit of a personal political agenda (in the name of Christianity) called “Christian” Zionism and what appears to be a strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judiasm are the powerful words and teachings of Paul written in Romans Chapter 9 and Galatians Chapter 4 and 5

 

Doo see..

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

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A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (1) This is an interesting study.
By Nathan Pitchford posted at Monergism;
Note: This list represents a wide segment of popular Dispensational teachings; however, Dispensationalism is by no means a monolithic entity, and many self-professed Dispensationalists, particularly in the Progressive school, would not adhere to many of its points.
Introduction:Dispensationalism is basically the method of interpreting the scriptures that […] Filed under: Being Equipped, Bible, Theology | Tagged:  

A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (2) continued from part (1)
2. The Fulfillment of Prophecy
A) The true heir of the Old Testament promises is not ethnic Israel, but only Christ, the one Seed of Abraham.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as […] Filed under: Bible, Theology | Tagged:

Judeo – Christianity Does Not Include Jesus Christ Or Messianic Jews Excellent post by Job at Primitive Christology
He makes some excellent points on the letter posted (here) yesterday. Filed under: Bad Theology, The Apostasy | Tagged:

THE ISRAEL OF GOD: a consideration of so-called “Replacement Theology” Excellent teaching on a much misunderstood topic by Peter Cohen at Messianic Good News:
“You Cannot Have The Promised Land If You Do Not Accept The Promised Prince Of Peace” unknown
In his book “The destiny of Israel and the church” Derek Prince stated: “Essential truth is usually simple, and the truth is, Israel is Israel, […]  Filed under: The Church, Theology | Tagged: ,  

Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth How important is it that we rightly divide the Word of God? In today’s world of multiple erroneous and/or false teachings, its imperative that we learn to do so for false teachings and beliefs have a way of multiplying and building upon each-other, until finally the ‘whole house’ of theology we have erected is […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Bible, Theology | Tagged: , , ,

Baaaaad Theology You know, I found some of the comments made by this pastor really sad (its an old article from January 06).
The WashingtonPost: Among Evangelicals, A Kinship With Jews
I won’t post the entire article, its 3 pages long, but just a few quotes:
DANVILLE, Va. — Everyone who worships at the Tabernacle quickly learns three facts about […] Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged: ,  

The Fruit of ‘Bad’ Theology Last evening when reading through and posting the article from the Christian Post: Evangelical Leaders: Jews Need Jesus Christ, brings rebuke from ADL, I was overjoyed to read that many Christian pastors/leaders etc stepped up publicly, declaring Jews need and can only receive salvation through Jesus Christ. On the other hand though, I thought […]  Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged:

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (1)  A couple weeks back I posted the link to this in “The-Ologys”, but after re-reading it tonight decided to post it in (2) parts on the front page: I believe its an important article and message.
From Monergism: The Threat of Christian Zionism by Nathan Pitchford
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If the phenomenal success of the bestselling Left Behind series indicates […] Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (2) continued from part (1)
What Are the Potential Results of Christian Zionism?
In light of what has previously been said, it should be apparent that Christian Zionism has the potential to shape the beliefs and practices of its adherents in a great many arenas. Some of these will now be designated more clearly: Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

Mis-applying Scripture Just writing from my heart right now–so forgive me if this post appears to be somewhat scattered.
Some days my frustration level almost reaches the point in which I’d just just as soon never read another commentary, column, or private teaching on anything or by anyone ever again, and just stick to the Bible. I get […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, Musings | Tagged:

Wine Drinking

Funny how many Christians try to justify their wine drniking, and what next their pornography, bad drugs too? If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men.

Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers 1 Cor 6:10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers {and} slanderers, nor extortioners {and} robbers will inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God.

We know that alcoholism is a terrible sin that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well.

Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone.

 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friends.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc..

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/and-if-the-righteous-scarcely-be-saved/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/

Rome, the Devil, and Mary  “…. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8 The father of lies. If you want proof of that truth, read what […] Filed under: Discernment, False Teachings | Tagged:  , |  http://b.1asphost.com/freelygiven/true.htm   http://b.1asphost.com/freelygiven/mary2.htm 

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