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October 20, 2014

BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Now as to the book of Revelations most decent Bible scholars say the symbols in Revelation refer to events and places familiar to its intended audience – Firstly to the first century Christians in Asia Minor. The book, itself, states that its message is directed at the first century Christians in Asia Minor, and that the events it describes would happen “soon” (Revelation 1: 1-4, 1:9-11, 22:10). Face it  next even now there is much disagreement as to the actual interpretation of this book.

The Old testament prophecy of Jeremiah clearly stated that the original Babylon would be destroyed, never to be inhabited again. The physical city of Babylon was originally built by Nimrod after the flood. It was located on the Euphrates River, about 55 miles south of where Baghdad, Iraq stands today. The name Babylon came from the Tower of Babel that was constructed there. Babylon became a large city of global prominence around 1728 BC during the reign of Hammurabi. The glory years of Babylon were achieved under Nebuchadnezzar II (604-562 BC). The city declined during the reign of Belshazzar, and came to ruin when Xerxes, the Persian king, destroyed it in 478 BC. Thus, Jeremiah’s prophesied destruction of Babylon was accomplished, and, just as the prophecy said, it has never been inhabited to this day

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The city Babylon described in Revelation is called “Mystery Babylon.” The prophecy of Mystery Babylon is found in Revelation 17:3-5. “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

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Verse 18 of the chapter tells us that the woman is a city. “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” In verse 1, we are told that the woman sits on many waters. Verse 15 explains the meaning of the waters. “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Not only is this woman a city, but the city is apparently the headquarters over a vast international commerce, financial, political system. The Angel’s warning was that God’s people might hear His voice saying: “Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Rev. 18:4

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

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December 27, 2013

So why do some people falsely push the Secret Rapture?

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The  false secret  Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by  1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/

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So why do some people falsely push the secret Rapture?

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Real Bible ignorance firstly.. They have not studied the New Testament prayerfully for themselves but mostly listen to the lies, distortions of others.

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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even. https://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts  on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal  experience they still  have never even had..
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.”  where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial  one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation  is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.”  Which most often is the case. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

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It seems strange to me that the Lord would not reveal, by the Holy Spirit, a teaching which the end-time prophets of today preach as a foundational dogma and a forgone conclusion. Not until 1831 was this “new truth” revealed and not until the 20th century was it popularized. How is it that the Apostles and the Early Fathers overlooked such an important eschatological event? Why is it not clearly spelled out in the Scriptures? The obvious answer is this: THE DOCTRINE KNOWN AS THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH DOES NOT EXIST! Like all other heresies it was and is the invention of men, not the teaching of the Church. Rather than listen to the doctrines of men, let us pay extremely close attention to our Lord’s own words in the Gospels.  When Jesus taught His Apostles about His glorious 2nd coming, these are the words He used: “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:27)”. In the book of Acts, St. Luke tells us that when Jesus ascended into heaven, and the Apostles were gazing upward as the Lord rose among the clouds, two men in white apparel (presumed to be angels) said these words: “Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven (Acts 1:11)”. We are told here in Holy Scripture that exactly in the same way Jesus ascended into heaven He will return to earth. In other words, He will return in the clouds in the sky. That description doesn’t sound like a “secret catching away” but rather a dynamic 2nd coming!  To be sure, there will be a catching away of the saints on earth but this happens at the last trumpet sound (Revelation 11:15). Writing to the Christians in Thessalonica, St. Paul tells us what the 2nd coming (Greek- parousia) is like. “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore, comfort one another with these words (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)”. The same words are used here to describe the catching up of Christians as is used to describe the 2nd coming of the Lord. Both occur in the clouds, in the air, and everyone on earth sees it happen. In other words, the so-called Rapture and the 2nd coming of Christ will happen at the same time.
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Perhaps the most vivid picture of our Lord’s 2nd coming to earth is found in the words of St. John the Apostle. In the book of Revelation he writes: “Behold, He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, amen (Revelation 1:7)”. Far from believing that the Lord will return “secretly” to rapture the Church 7 years before His 2nd coming, St. John says that every human being on earth will see the Lord descend from the clouds. Once again, here are the words of the Nicene Creed, the symbol and statement of faith for all Christians: “He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kindgom shall have no end.” The 2nd coming of our Lord Jesus Christ shall be in glory, not in secret. Then the Prince of Peace shall establish true peace, joy, and righteousness on the earth; “For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea (Habakkuk 2:14)”.

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Most dispensationalists still do   take isolated verse and twist them to suit what they want others to believe still especially the false Dispensationalists http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

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Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies of  Israel and the Church. It also unacceptably tries falsely to explain away  the relevance of the gifts of the holy spirit today.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the   HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.  Evangelical Dispensationalists do also still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, following the teaching of men, an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

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I am   aware of the fact John Darby and Cyrus Scofield have led many saints into such a mess, that it’s become the tool for a Brethren cult too! Some persons do preach, write out of their guilty, to compensate for the related emptiness they are feeling, while others write because they are ambitious, they write out of seeking fame, their seeking a place of prominence.. many are just lead by the devil too.

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The Second Advent of our Messiah Jesus Christ is in fact Biblically sound Doctrine, it will happen!  However, the Rapture theory fabricates a pre-Second Advent advent, which is not in the Bible. In essence, what they have done is that they have made three advents out of the true two Advents of Jesus Christ as found in among other places, {Zech 9:9+10}.  It is a falsehood created by man and added to God’s Word.  In this Bible study we will thoroughly debunk the Rapture lie and explain not only it’s dubious origins, but also it’s cause and effect, and the extreme danger that such a false doctrine poses for God’s children. The rapture, often called “the blessed hope,” is sadly more hoax than hope,  For such a seemingly major doctrine, one might expect a weighty argument, but this is what is offered in The Scofield Bible’s Reference Notes (1917 Edition): “…’caught up’—Not church saints only, but all bodies of the saved [that is, not only the living, but also the dead], of whatever dispensation, are included in the first resurrection… [It] is peculiarly the ‘blessed hope’ of the Church (cf)  This offers surprisingly little information, considering how many accept the rapture doctrine based upon these notes. Additionally, all of the references he cited are about Christ’s return and the believer’s need to be ready for that event. None of them speak of a “near return” by Christ to snatch away believers.

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Some rapturists today cite Acts 8:39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.   saying it uses the same Greek word that is translated “caught up” in 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.   They say that the fact the Spirit of God “caught [Philip] away” shows that 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. means that the saints are caught away to heaven. Yet the Spirit did not transport Philip to heaven, but rather from one place on the earth to another.

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The Rapture ‘doctors’ (those who create, fabricate, and perpetuate the many different Rapture theories) have searched the Bible over and have found a finite number of Scriptures that they were able to pull violently out of context, twist and mould, reshape and join unnaturally one to the other until they have formed a new product, a new doctrine, seemingly supported by Biblical Scripture, but in reality nothing more than satan’s ‘house of cards,’ built on a foundation of sand, a perversion of God’s true end-time plan.   Any claim of any verse verses  being  about snatched away to heaven takes incredible license, distortions  with the Bible.

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The Rapture doctrine is dangerous because it teaches Christians that they will be spared all tribulation, wrath, and danger in the last days. The need for urgent preparation of one’s heart and soul is diminished because Christians will be secretly taken away from all that pain. No need to worry, we’ll just fly away. Unlike the Early Christians, most of whom were murdered by this world’s authorities, the end-time Christians have a get-out-of-tribulation free card called the Rapture. Remember the words of St. Paul, “All those who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution (2 Timothy 2:12).” And lastly, the words of the Lord in John 16:33, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in Me you might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

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The Rapture Theory; What Does God’s Word Say About It?   http://biblestudysite.com/rapture.htm

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Rapture? not such thing even.. http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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Hal Lindsey the typical evangelical hireling, a self-proclaimed “Father of the Modern Day False Prophecy Movement,” popularized the false eschatology doctrines of most dispensationalists. His books have influenced thousands of preachers, teachers and laymen leading them astray in the subject of eschatology. Hal has also been a leader in coercing believers into supporting a false religion (Babylonian Talmudic Judaism), and a nation (Israel) that oppresses nearly half of its citizens (Palestinians). Like most men who have acquired great wealth, prestige and influence he has spent a good deal of time chasing women. His third wife and church gave him the boot for his sexcapades.  For detailed proof of his false prophecies and teachings go to — haLUNACY

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All they care about is inspiring people to idolize Israel and the almighty Jews. Is your church stupid? It is if you support Israel. You are IGNORANT of the Scriptures my friend if you think God blesses Christians who support a wicked, Christ-rejecting people. The idolizing and worshipping of Jerusalem, Israel and the Jews is evil in the sight of God.   http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Zionism/israel_idolatry.htm

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If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not even any personal, social, community relationships, acts. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

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Do see also

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/good.html

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

 http://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/davis-nord_dd_01.html

July 10, 2013

A shepherd, or a Hireling, thief?

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 10:24 pm
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MOST PEOPLE ARE GULLIBLE,IN FACT SOME SAY THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE ,
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Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the end of the world and the Battle of Armageddon as  You know, are  for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  societal oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it.
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The Basic problem also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still..
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ISN’T THE LOVE OF MONEY, THE FILTHY GREED FOR IT EVIDENT OF THESE SO CALLED PREACHERS, OR HIRELINGS WHO PROMOTE GOD’S SUPPOSED TRUTHS FOR MONEY?
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 Now don’t you think that something spiritually important as this, so essential as this, would be available freely to all rather.
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 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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Not just the Book of Daniel, but the Book of Revelation itself is now also Considered by many one  the strangest book in the Bible.  Not many people can say they they really understand it too, but for 2000 years, this book also  has been wildly popular. Why would anyone still bother with the books  book that many love to hate,  Many people also hate the Torah and Jesus’ revision of the Torah, Well the reality is that if you are a Non Christian believer, and without the Holy Spirit, you really cannot understand this book, especially in the light of the fact that one often is are reading other people’s mail, as this book was, is specially written for the born form above Christians.  First thing I too had discovered is that controversy is nothing new if the devil can help it.. He the devil really does likes tearing the truths into shreds, distorts it, so that alone should not discourage you from reading these books 
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Now  many of the most well-known undeniable New Testament prophecies about Jesus Christ himself were foreshadowed by the Old Testament prophets centuries before the birth of Christ and these require no serious reinterpretations.. including his death on a cross and his stated  beforehand resurrection  next from the dead..
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But it is those other supposed Future prophecies about the end time anti  Christ, about the Fallen Babylon, the New world Order, the supposed Restoring the nation of Israel, the supposed Rebuilding of the Jewish  temple, the Battle of Armageddon that are very doubtfully  being presented, misrepresented even   and why?
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IN REALITY ALL DOCTRINES HAVE TO BE STUDIED BY THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT . YOU HAVE TO TAKE EVERY WORD YOU HEAR AND SUBJECT IT TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE BIBLE.. MOST TEACHINGS AND PREACHING’S TODAY DO CONTAIN MAJOR FALSEHOODS THAT DO NOT LINE UP WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT;
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2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;  Titus 2:13:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,  James 5:7-9:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain.  1 Peter 5:4:4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. 1 John 2:28-3:2: 28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. Jude 1:21:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Revelation 2:25:25 But hold fast what you have till I come.
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The prophecies, about  the rise of the Antichrist and the Battle of Armageddon, were first recorded by the prophet Daniel in the sixth century B.C. where  Daniel wrote his God given prophecies during the 70 years that the people of Israel were held captive in the land of Babylon.
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Daniel himself had served as part of the royal court of King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned in Babylon from 605 – 562 B.C. The prophecies came in the form of dreams, both the king’s dreams and Daniel’s dreams. For most of the details, Daniel was personally now given the interpretation, but not all. Note that. Now the full  details about the future Antichrist, and the nations involved too, even the exact times, is not given to us by God, or in the Bible rather these days too there exist today rather  a lot of misinformation, misinterpretations, lies even.. and if God wanted us to know all the details he would have already now mentioned them specifically in the Bible. The Bible does not go into much detail about the end times because we are rather to concentrate on pour present relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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 Even Daniel himself was not given now  all the details..  Dan 30:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased…. 9  Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
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And yet many  future prophecy liars still do dare to speak to us all about  supposed future truths that God has not even revealed  to anyone yet  here too..
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Malachi 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ sope:
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Why is it so many people claim that Jesus is coming soon when no one can know the exact time even. yet. Jesus is coming back soon, even maybe today.. and already he has been coming back for 2000 years, and yes he will come back.. but why are so many wanting him to come back now, immediately? wanting to go to Heaven even? and why is it that so many of the people who claim they want to go to Heaven now , and they say they want Jesus to come back for them when clearly still, many of them  are still unwilling to Serve God here on earth firstly,  even when they are unwilling to live with Jesus  now here on earth.
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Escapism?  Deliverance or Running away? Jonah ran away from God…  Being saved is not about immediately going to Heaven, but serving Jesus firstly here on earth.. Are you even doing everything you can to serve Jesus Christ here now firstly before you go to heaven next? or are you so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly Good?
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Revelation 3: 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Revelation 21: 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and not by the Holy Spirit so they clearly here will fail at it still too. I also know some people have their minds falsely made up  about a lot of things based even on the false teaching of their denomination and it would be a great shock to their system to admit it may be wrong.. 
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Please be like the Bereans of old who “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11) with prayer and true help of the Holy Spirit.
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and while you are waiting for Jesus to come are you  serving Him now?
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2 Thessalonians 2:1.  1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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Notice that above passage states that the man of sin is to be revealed BEFORE Jesus comes and that Paul is warning Christians not to be deceived by others who teach otherwise.
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I Cor. 13:9 Paul said, “… we prophesy in part.” There are two reasons for this. One is expressed in Prov. 4:18, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” In other words, the revelation of truth is progressive and needs to be checked out, confirmed  by the Holy Spirit, the Bile, even others..
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Just because we have the Bible doesn’t mean we have all the truth at our disposal. The truth contained in the written word must be “opened” or revealed by Christ if we are to understand it and benefit. All the study in the world will not take the place of Christ opening the book and ministering living anointed truth suited to the time and need.
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Daniel, as great a man of God and yet  he was, was still even  told to shut up the words and seal the book till the time of the end. Daniel 12:4. The end times was the begging of Christ Ministry on earth and the the related New Testament development  and it’s Pentecost.. As only Christ has the authority to “open the book” (Rev. 5:1-5)

May 25, 2013

SELF CENTERED, SELFISH, CARNAL, NOT A NEW TESTAMENT THEOLOGY

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Matthew 10 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
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Matthew 16 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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HIS PROMISED LAND IS IN HEAVEN AND HE HAS MUCH GOOD THINGS FOR US HERE ON EARTH ALSO,  “IF YOU ARE   WILLING AND OBEDIENT YOU   SHALL EAT THE GOOD OF THE LAND!”  IS REALLY   STILL A SELF CENTERED, SELFISH, CARNAL, NOT A NEW TESTAMENT  THEOLOGY AND IS BASED ON MERE HALF TRUTHS  NOW TOO.. THAT OVERLOOKS THE REALITY OF ONGOING TRIBULATION ON EARTH FOR ALL CHRISTIANS STILL AS JESUS AND THE APOSTLES HAD TOLD US.
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Matthew 10
36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
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Philippians 3
18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
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John 16
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Acts 14
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
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Romans 5
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
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Romans 8
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
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Romans 12
12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
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2 Corinthians 1
4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
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2 Thessalonians 1
4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye end
Revelation 1
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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Matthew 13
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
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Matthew 5
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
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Matthew 12
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
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Matthew 13
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
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Mark 4
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
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Mark 8
38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
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Revelation 2
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
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10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
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MERE MEN DO DISTORT THE BIBLE AND   ARE NOT WELL VERSED ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY SAYS.   WE AIL CHRISTIANS WILL LIVE IN HEAVEN FOR  7 YR. TRIBULATION PERIOD, IS A BIG LIE, DISPENSATIONAL WISHFUL  THINKING. AN   EVANGELICAL DISPENSATIONALIST , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS  SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING  THEY PREACH THE RAPTURE FALSELY.   BUT   WE WILL COME BACK WITH HIM AND RULE AND REIGN ON THE NEW HEAVENLY JERUSALEM ABOVE NEW EARTH  FOR 10O0 YEARS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED DURING THE 7 YEARS TRIBULATION, Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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 THE CHRISTIANS ALIVE AT THE SUPPOSED BIG COMING GREAT  TRIBULATION WILL GO THROUGH IT ON EARTH AND NOT IN HEAVEN..
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 Look there are still the good seeds God has sowed and there are bad seeds the devil sowed.. On the net as well.. in Churches now too.   There is holy Spirit anointed person and there are the demon, carnally led persons too. They of course teach very different things.. How can you tell the difference? Well here is a great clue.. anyone who is ignorant of the person of the Holy Spirit is not a real Christian yet… so he or she do not have the real truth.
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 Read ALL OF the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the Holy Spirit’s of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible”s as well . Now some would lie to me and say were are living in the last days.. you all are living firstly in your last days on earth.. there is no second change on earth.. Evangelical dispensationalists see the half empty glass, half truths, the last days as the abundance of sinful men, cause they have their eyes on men and not God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit rather, and what you think the people in the days of the Romans, Jesus Christ were now all saints too?
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That’s why He has provided so many signs to warn us to the fact that we are living on the threshold of the tribulation.” and what signs are these? that are now so different from the ones we had the last 2000 years? and how would you even know they are different too? Jesus himself still said no one knows the date of his return and not even him.. so why argue with him them now? a rebellious spirit? The signs Jesus was talking about were the end times of Judaism, the destruction of the Jewish temple, Jewish records, and their world wide dispersions too. Nothing else. Now those bad people pick and choose now some verse and try to force it mean something such as the restoration of Israel was promised 1948.. when there is no New Testament substantiation for it and it contradicts Jesus own words that the house of Israel will be made desolate even till His return.. .. or that a new temple will be built even one that even now Contradicts the will of God still..
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 Look for over 50 years those lying evangelical -dispensationalists, a crappy only 200 years old religion only too, could not even agree to themselves and they still have never been proved right in their New testament prophecy projections. Evangelical is not even a Biblical word.. Anointed is.. Most of them are not even real Christians for sure as they admit to never have been baptized with the holy Spirit even. Anyone now can take a Bible verse, the devil often does, and try to make it suitable to some particular event.. and these fools often do still.. China and Russia will invade Israel or Syria, for example.. ha ha ha or the revived Roman Empire is the nations of Europe.. ha ha ha
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 Ironically not one of the so called Bible sign expositors had even predicted 911 and why was that? I rightfully do like these people who put their own false interpretations to their own chosen Bible verse. Tier flaw interpretations are all cause they are not Hoy Spirit led, Hal Lindsey included now. They found he subjects makes loads of money though.. that is why it is falsely mostly sold too.
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These future stupid prophecy nuts tend to take you away from Jesus Christ, onto  the devil, 666, antichrist etc.. as they still do tend not know the holy Spirit personally, and even tend to deny his operations.. so that shows me how really stupid they mostly now are demons..

July 12, 2009

Pray

(James 5:10 KJV)  Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.

11  Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
12  But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
13  Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
14  Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15  And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16  Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
17  Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
18  And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.
19  Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20  Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

June 14, 2009

The really Bad churches..

  
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Now we all do or should by now know there are good and bad churches, led by good or bad pastors, good or bad elders. Reality, Good pastors are Shepherds and  the bad Pastors are hirelings, or prostitutes, dictators?

(John 10:11 KJV)  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15  As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17  Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18  No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

(Prov 27:23 KJV)  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

(Prov 28:2 KJV)  For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged.(Job 7:1 KJV)  Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?

(Job 7:2 KJV)  As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work:

(Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(John 10:12 KJV)  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

(John 10:13 KJV)  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

(Mal 1:6 KJV)  A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?  7  Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the LORD is contemptible.
8  And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts.
9  And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts.
10  Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11  For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
12  But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.

(Mal 2:1 KJV)  And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. 2:2    If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

(Mal 2:17 KJV)  Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

(Mal 3:1 KJV)  Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Ezek 34:2 KJV)    Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3  Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4  The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5  And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
6  My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
7  Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9  Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10  Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11  For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
12  As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
13  And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
14  I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.
15  I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.
16  I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.
17  And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.
18  Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
19  And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.
20  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.
21  Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;
22  Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
23  And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
24  And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
25  And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
26  And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.
27  And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
28  And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.
29  And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
30  Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD.
31  And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

Bad people try to do many things.. if others let them do it as well..
 
Bad pastors, bad elders continue to exist  cause likely the congregation is bad too.  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

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May 9, 2009

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(Job 10:8 KJV)  Thine hands have made me and fashioned me together round about; 

 

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March 6, 2009

People need to stop lying, to others, themselves

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Narcissistic, selfish, self centered Mental Disorders too evident now even in many of the so called Professionals even bad pastors, leaders leads these persons to dwell in self-absorption, fantasy, illusion, where she or he has exaggerated claims to talents, importance, or specialness, manifesting evidence of a need for constant admiration from others, a lack of empathy for all others, persistent in this too, have rigid personality traits and coping styles, clearly inflexible, do show a hypersensitivity to any criticism , defeat or negative realities thus they rather are pathological in denial by the their falsity, contrived replacement of the truths which they still must face eventually . These SEVERE PERSONALITY disorders are generally personally ongoing too leading to more impaired social and/or occupational functioning and can make it difficult to pinpoint a clear dividing line between their pathology and their so called normality. Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too.

Again false Denial, it is very  common when many an individual, even amongst so called professionals, even in pastors now included, are openly confronted with their own wrong doings, that they resort to a false denial. When confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on a false assumption of one’s past great success and often precedes their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. Illustrated fully by the story of the Emperor with new clothes.

False Denial (also called abnegation) is a often defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence, a mechanism of the immature mind that conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. The subject may now deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly related to the denial of one’s addiction to alcohol for example, or to one slandering others, abusing them stealing, lying.. their denial or their minimization of their own wrong doings is the essential part of what enables them next to to continue his or her behavior in the face of evidence that, to an outsider, that is overwhelming. “The American Heart Association cites denial as a principal reason that treatment of a heart attack is delayed. Because the symptoms are so varied, and often have other potential explanations, the opportunity exists for the patient to deny the emergency, often with fatal consequences. It is common for patients to delay mammograms or other tests because of a fear of cancer, even though this is clearly maladaptive.”

Types of Denial include now Denial of fact: This form of denial is where someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details in order to tailor a story (omission), This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by blaming, minimizing or justifying. Denial of responsibility: Denial of impact: avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others. Denial of awareness: they do not admit any previous awareness of the negative reality. Denial of cycle: Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. Denial of denial: This latter form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. People in a false denial are really nuts, delusional..

There are tools and practices that we can implement to overcome the psychological trap of anyone’s false denial. The Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty is one of the best approach serving everyone’s best interest too.

It is also a clearly established fact with good basis as to why our leaders, politicians, police, military, public and civil servants and all Christians they who are always to be exemplary are even personally are to held to a higher standard, accountability in reality. God said so

1 Timothy 1: 4..that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. 5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust

Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain

James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell

8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

There are so many childish, unloving, dogmatic, slanderous person, arrogant, pretend Christians who take one truth and now falsely do try to push it down other people’s throats, and they do falsely believe they are better than other persons now cause they have hold of one truth. Now if you do not agree with them, dare to oppose them they will go crazy on you. calling you slanderous names, insulting you, falsely attacking you personally, trying to attack you as being immoral, demonic, an antichrist or what ever as they are in false denial to the real truth and why? their pride will not let them admit they have been deceivers and have been deceived.. .. these bad, ignorant clearly unloving, Holy Spirit ignorant too persons they really should not even be on the net preaching to others till they get matured, wiser. They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness.   as they can no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too..  A false Denial, it is very very common when confronted with the truth. When challenged or confronted with the truth now  as still not  everyone can handle negative  criticism, negative reality positively, so many next immediately tend to respond in false very negative manners  and can even resort to a personal attack on you, even calling you slanderous names, lying about you, insulting you,  Fogging  the issue with unrelated information, nonsense, or just incomprehensible gibberish and thus  showing still rather more to all as to what they are really like.  When confronted with the truth the denier can  often respond with their false denial, false diversion, deceptions. The defensive, false opponent  tries to discredit you falsely  by even falsely calling  your motives and methods into question, resorting  to a personal attack on you, calling you slanderous names, insulting  you… et cetera all done just  to try to make you look bad, immoral, incompetent , unreasonable, unnecessary, dishonest,   to the community. When confronted with the truth the denier they often also respond with a statement even like you are crazy, nuts.  This   unrepentant opponents can get very nasty very quickly too and often and can  immediately work at discrediting you by all and any means .Your opponent undeniably, clearly is trying to make you look bad.  Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the truth about themselves still .  Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative aspect of what they themselves  still are like .. And now the problem about these ostriches in false denial,  about their  lying is that they had next tend to falsely start to believe their own  lies, they do  become now a mental, a basket case..  Again false Denial, it is very very common when confronted with the truth and the Deception respond is low-minded; but it is also, unfortunately, an all-too-common occurrence in the lives of many bad  people .False Denial as to who they really are now by the people who really do delude themselves too often about their self importance and the positive role they are functioning in is very common, a daily occurrence. How to respond ? Let the public honestly, openly know what has occurred. There are two reasons for this: first,  by going public, you are helping the public get a positive, clearer view of the reality as well as a realistic negative view of your bad opponent. Second, the truth can only help  everyone, the unrepentant person included..  Open rebuke here too now  is better over secret love.. The Public exposures of the unrepentant wicked serves everyone one’s best interests. .

Admittedly it is sad, but still the truth that Most people still are not in total touch with reality.. cause they are being lied to or cause they lie and start to believe their own lies.

Most people are also still Ostriches in denial, they have  glamorous versions of the reality, a distorted one, a spin, one they use to force  themselves not to deal with the reality  or to have to  think about the reality  negatively.. for not surprisingly since  the average person now  lies 3 times every 10 minutes.. and too  too often  even the news reporters, politicians, professionals  falsely object to the telling of the negative truths, realties  as it  would be bad for their business, careers  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/08/06/but-you-know-that-already /

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 But let me still  tell you 2 things about telling lies:

a: we tend to believe our own lies, funny how that is, say it often enough and you yourself start to be live the lie as the truth when it is still a lie.. and

b: the more you do now lie to yourself the crazier, the more insane you yourself do  become even if you may not admit it, or now  be aware of it… eventually you become totally loony as a result, a far grasp from reality. I have seen many a persons go there now too.

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(James 1:26 KJV)  If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.

(James 1:17 KJV)  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

(Col 3:9 KJV)  Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

(1 Tim 1:9 KJV)  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10    For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
(Titus 1:12 KJV)  One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
(Rev 2:2 KJV)  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
(Rev 21:8 KJV)  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

(1 John 1:10 KJV)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

(Job 13:4 KJV)  But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
(Isa 28:17 KJV)  Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
(Hosea 10:13 KJV)  Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.
(Nahum 3:1 KJV)  Woe to the bloody city! it is all full of lies and robbery; the prey departeth not;
(Hab 2:18 KJV)  What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
(John 8:44 KJV)  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(John 8:45 KJV)  And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
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see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/everyones-does-it-the-liars-now-too/
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What does the Bible say about Lying?
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There is a plague that is grieving the heart of God because it is preventable and can be stopped. It has spread among all churches and is particularly rampant in society. Even God’s ministers are not immune and many of them are infected with it.
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What is this evil plague? You may be surprised as it appears rather harmless at first glance. It is now so commonplace that people are deceived into just accepting it as normal, instead of recognizing and resisting it. This epidemic is the practice of lying and dishonesty.
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What does the Bible say about lying? A lying tongue is not only something God hates, it is also something that is an abomination to Him.
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Proverbs 6:16-19 says, “These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”
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Examples of Dishonesty
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As the moral climate of our society has been deteriorating, lying has become a major problem. The business world is particularly plagued by this problem–men’s dishonesty with each other, meetings “forgotten”, company theft, promises not kept, contracts broken, etc. Lawyers have increased in numbers over the last decade, mainly because of irresponsibility and broken contracts among men due to lying. A news organization recently did a survey here in America and asked people several questions to determine the percentage of people who lied or were dishonest about things. Some of the questions were:
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Do you cheat on your Income Tax Return?
Do you compliment people when you really don’t mean it?
Do you tell your spouse to tell callers you are not at home when you there?
Do you tell “little white lies” if it will keep you out of trouble?
Do you tell creditors that “the check is in the mail” when you have not yet mailed it?
Do you exaggerate in repeating things you have heard?
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The results of this survey determined that 90% of Americans are not truthful under certain circumstances. This is understandable when we look at the morals of our society but what about Christians? Have they fallen into the habit of lying also? Also, what constitutes a lie according to the Bible? Anything that is not the truth is a lie and God’s Word the Bible tells us what is truth. The Bible is the standard or measuring rod we must use in determining truth. Sadly, Christians are also succumbing to this epidemic of lying. Lying to each other has now become so commonplace, Christians too, have become liars.
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The Father of Lies
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Have you been lied to lately? Was it another Christian that lied to you? A minister perhaps? Each of us have had our trust in people undermined, or in some cases even destroyed because of lies. We would all agree that lying is an ugly evil. The Bible tells us that lying began with the devil and that he is the father of lies.
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John 8:43-47 says, “Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.”
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The Bible is filled with admonitions against being dishonest and lying. One of the Ten Commandments states:
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“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.” Exodus 20:16
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Before we point our finger at another for being a liar that we feel God needs to deal with, let us examine our own lives to see if we are infected with the same disease. What kind of witness are we to those around us? Are we deceived and have we become liars ourselves? Let us first give a definition as to what a lie is according to Webster’s dictionary:
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1.) To make a statement that one knows is false, especially with the intent to deceive.
2.) To give a false impression or action or false statement, especially with the intent to deceive.
3.)To make a false statement in order to evade the truth.
4.)The invention of a false story or excuse in order to deceive.
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Perhaps for a Christian, a Biblical definition of lying could be summed up in this statement:
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Any time our word does not agree with God’s Word.
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In Numbers 23:19 the Bible says, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
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When we do not keep our word we are guilty of lying. Over the last year I have lost track of the number of times Christians have failed to keep their word to me. I am not angry or resentful or bitter over this, as the Lord has worked those attitudes out of my life. I have learned to take every offense to Him in prayer and He then removes any personal ill I might have and He gives me a forgiving and gracious attitude toward others. However, since I began to notice how many of God’s people were not keeping their word, I received a prayer burden of intercession for this evil to be removed from God’s people.
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I first began praying about my own life and ask God to expose any areas where I might be guilty of this sin. I have tried to obey Romans 12:17-21 which says, “Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”
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Most of the time I would just forgive these lying offences and would just pray for them and try to “live peaceably with all men.” However, in prayer, the Lord spoke to my heart that I must go one step further and “speak the truth in love” to my brothers and sisters if I truly loved them.
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Ephesians 4:15-16 says, “But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.”
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If we, as the body of Christ, are to mature and grow up we must conform to the truth which is Jesus. The devil is behind every lie and as Christians we are admonished not to lie to one another.
C.olossians 3:9-10 says, “Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him.”
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Two Roots of Dishonesty
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The two main reasons we lie are usually rooted in either fear or pride. Fear is the first reason. We are afraid of the consequences if we tell the truth. Yielding to fear shows a lack of trust in God to take care of the situation. If we yield to God and do it His way He will usually give us favor with those that we fear. The other reason is pride. We are prideful and concerned about what men will think of us (desiring man’s approval instead of God’s approval.)
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Jesus always kept His Word. God still keeps His Word and is faithful to keep every promise He makes in the Bible. That is why He is reliable and we can trust Him. We are called to be like Him. The Bible says that out of a man’s mouth proceeds what is in His heart. If we tell lies or fib then it means that we need a heart cleansing.
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Matthew 15:18-20a says, “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man…”
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We need to ask God to cleanse our hearts and begin reading and studying the Bible so that His Word resides in our hearts. As we keep His Word and water it with prayer it will produce good fruit in our lives. Lying is not only speaking an untruth; another form of lying is not keeping our word to others.
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Luke 8:15 says, “But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.”
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Little “White” Lies
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Let us look at some specific ways the devil gets us to lie. We will expose some of his devices. These sorts lies are being practiced by many Christians. Now remember, we are guilty of lying when we do not keep our word. Even if these sorts of lies seem harmless and don’t appear to really hurt anyone else, they are harmful to our own souls. The more we practice telling untruths of any kind, the duller our concience becomes.
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1.) “I will call you back tomorrow.” (This excuse is often used with a deliberate intent to decieve. The person does not call back at the appointed time and will call back at a much later date with excuses of why they were unable to call which usually goes something like: “I just was so busy, I meant to call , but did not get around to it.” We all have been guilty of this, but we need to realize when we say we will do something we need to keep our word. We do understand there are legitimate reasons that make it impossible at times to keep our word. This is not the case we are referring to here. It would be better to not make this promise or to say, “I will try to call you back tomorrow.”)
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2.) “I will be happy to do that for you.” (Whatever promise was made, it was not kept and their word about the matter causes them not to be trusted. The Holy Spirit is trying to purge this lack from His people and is using a group of men known as “Promise Keepers” to help restore trustworthiness back in the heads of families by stressing that they need to keep their promises.)
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We could list numerous examples but these two cover a lot of territory; any time we say the words “I will” we need to be responsible to do it. We all, on occasion, fail to do the things we have good intentions of doing or we are hindered in some way and can’t do them. However, if we are unable to keep an appointment we should be thoughtful enough to call and cancel, or tell of our delayed arrival. We are living in an age when there are so many uncaring attitudes expressed. As Christians, we can be good witnesses by being different.
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One of the biggest faults of many Christians, and our society as well, is that we tend to over-commit and then we are unable to keep our word. It is disheartening to see this shift prevalent in businesses. They commit to the jobs, then, are not able to produce them on time and thus the standard for business practices is shifting to not expecting them on time. Business people must now factor in lengthy time delays just to compensate for people’s lack of business ethics.
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People that tend to over commit sometimes have a pride problem and are people pleasers. They want people to like them so they offer to do things for them, and because they are unable to keep their promises to all they end up not being able to keep their word; thus they are dishonest. In business it is usually greed that tends to cause them to over commit. They want more business and more money, even when they must work from a backlog that was promised timely.
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As Christians we need to ask the Lord to forgive us if we are guilty of lying or deceit. It is a very serious matter with God when we lie. (We can read of the incident of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts chapter 5 in the Bible. They both fell dead when they lied to the Holy Spirit.)
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The Bible also lists this sin of lying as one that can lead us to hell along with some other grievous ones.Revelation 21:7-8 says, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
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We can be overcomers through the power of the Holy Spirit as we seek to be like Jesus. We not only do not want to lie, but we also want to keep our word so that people know we are honest and trustworthy. As Christians, we want to represent our Father well in this life and be honest and free from fabrication and fibbing.
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This article was taken from the Overcoming Life Digest (Jan./Feb. 1998 Issue); 
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Note all sin if not stopped  tends to escalate in one’s life, lying included
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WHO IS IT THAT NEVER LIES?
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The answer to this question might be a threefold one. It can be truthfully said that a faithful witness, a true Christian and God NEVER lie. See Prov. 14:5; 1 John 3:8, 9 and Tit. 1:2. With man there always remains that possibility of him falling away from his steadfastness and then committing some sin or telling a lie; but with God all such is impossible. See Heb. 6:18. This being true, how can anyone ever doubt any of God’s promises or predictions for the future? Some people seem to doubt there being a literal burning hell, when Jesus, who was God manifested in human flesh (Matt. 1:23 and 2 Cor. 5:19), declared to His audience time and again that there was such a place, “where the worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched” (Mk. 9:42-48 and Matt. 25:41-46).
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Then, there are others who want to believe and preach that a person can be saved, during this dispensation of grace, without being born of water and the Spirit. If Jesus spoke the truth to Nicodemus, and He most assuredly did, when He told him he had to be “born again” before he could see or enter the kingdom of God, no one is going to get in otherwise. Brothers and friends, we had just as well face the facts and accept the truth now while we can and declare the same to others. There is a great failing away from this truth and message of the “New Birth,” or the birth that is of water and the Spirit, as God’s plan of entrance into His kingdom. It just cannot be other than Jesus gives it to us in St. John 3:3-7, for we know lie did not lie. Paul says, “Let God be true, but every man a liar;” that is, if either man or God must be doubted. To disbelieve God is to make Him a liar; for John, the beloved, informs us: “He that BELIEVETH NOT God hath (by such an act) made Him a liar” (1 John 5:10). To inform someone you do not believe what they have said is true is just a mild way of telling them they have lied. whom are we going to believe and follow in these days of infidelity and apostasy? Give me Jesus and His teachings and plenty of God’s grace to believe and obey them; for “there is a way (and possibly many ways) which seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” and eternal damnation. Compare Prov. 14:12.
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WHAT IS GOD’S LIE DETECTOR
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The Lord has a “Lie Detector” that is more efficient than anything man has ever perfected. While man has perfected a “Lie Detector” that works in many cases, and is quite accurate, God’s never fails and is perfect in its indications and discernments. God’s “Lie Detector” is nothing more or less than the Holy Ghost (1 Cor. 12:8,10). Read Acts 5:1-11 and see how it (lie) revealed Ananias’ and Sapphira’s lying. It revealed to Peter positively and definitely that these two people were lying about the price they had obtained for their property. God’s “Lie Detector” does not only reveal or indicate when a person has lied or is guilty of lying; it also reveals what he has lied about and all the secrets of his heart. See Dan. 2:22, 28, 29, 47.
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If God’s ministers of today would walk with Him as they should and live where God could and would reveal things to them, concerning their congregations, they would be feared and respected more by them, even as the people feared Moses, Joshua and the apostles. See Joshua 4:14 and Acts 5:1-11. This was due to the fact that the people knew by what God was revealing to them (Josh. 7:16-26) that they were the true prophets and servants of the Lord. If this was true today, church members and backslidden preachers could not carry on or continue their wicked practices, and at the same time profess to be Christians, without being detected and dealt with. We need to make more use of God’s “Lie Detector,” the “Gift of Discernment,” which reveals every secret of men’s hearts — by the Spirit, in order that the devil’s works might be made manifest and that these lying hypocrites might BE AFRAID to parade their hypocrisy before the church folk and the world.
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A minister who does not live close enough to God to know his flock and be able to discern their spiritual conditions need not expect God to put a holy fear upon the people, to the extent that they will consider his advice and instructions prayerfully; also to cause them to be afraid to dishonor, criticize, judge, revile, undermine, boycott and ignore him. A minister can certainly live where he can see the Lord thus working in his behalf; but he must stay humble, VERY prayerful, and spiritual or it will not continue to be his much prized experience.
SOME PUNISHMENTS THAT AWAIT ALL LIARS
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1. STRIPPED OF ALL HONOR, REPUTATION, AND SUCCESS
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We are informed by the Scriptures that “The prophet that teacheth lies, he is THE TAIL.” The inevitable consequences of lying makes it one of the most serious sins or offenses one can indulge in or commit. Few people realize the seriousness and danger of lying. One never knows what the outcome of one lie may be until it has taken its course and cut down its victims. A lie is sometimes very long lived — it may die or spend itself out very slowly. A person who is stripped of all honor and reputation, and has had a successful career turned into failure and defeat by lying himself or by being lied upon, is in a PITIFUL condition. Such people are often left in such despair until they contemplate committing suicide or actually perform the act. Well, this is just some of the consequences and punishments that await those who tell lies. Read Jer. 23:30-32.
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2. LYING CAUSES ONE TO ERR HIMSELF
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“Thus saith the Lord; ‘For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof: Because they have despised the law of the Lord, and have not kept His commandments, and THEIR LIES caused them TO ERR”’ (Amos 2:4). Who ever lied that did. not err? Every person that lies errs from the truth, but there is more ways to err than in this manner. To err also means to miss one’s aim, to make a mistake, to go astray morally, to sin, and, as in every case, wander from the truth. when one begins to consider the punishments that await the person who tells lies, he can readily see that such a life or practice never pays off with anything that is good or worthwhile. Well enough, the liar has his payday coming, even if it is sometimes quite delayed (Rom. 2:2-9). The worst err of lying is that it certainly diverts one’s steps from the path of life to that of eternal death and agony. See Rev. 21 :8, 27.
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3. LYING CAUSES GOD TO REMOVE ONE’S NAME F.ROM THE BOOK OF LIFE
God informed Moses, “Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I BLOT OUT of My Book.” If there is any sin that would prompt God to take one’s name off the “Book of Life,” it is the sin of lying; but it is not a question of the degree of sin that is committed — if it is sin, one’s name is removed. See Ex. 32:23 with Psa. 69:27, 28. I suppose that my readers all know what the consequences are of having one’s name removed from the “Rook of Life.” It simply means that one’s right to eternal life has been canceled and that he must spend eternity with the damned in the lake of fire. See Rev. 20:15. There is no chance of being saved for one who dies after God removes his name from the “Book of Life,” unless he gets God to replace it before he dies.
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4. GOD’S HAND 15 AGAINST ALL LIARS
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This alone is a terrible punishment for lying. If God be against us who can be for us? There is no one who can deliver us out of His hand. The wife may succeed in delivering her child from the hand of her husband, who desires to punish him; but there is no one who could succeed in taking anyone out of the hand of God. Too, this means that everything one may try to do is opposed by the Lord. For proof that God’s hand is against those who lie, we quote: “Therefore thus saith the Lord God: ‘Because ye have spoken vanity (lies), and seen lies (you received them by way of a vision), therefore,. behold (look and see), I AM AGAINST you,’ said the Lord” (Ezk. 13:8). Again we read in Jer. 23:31,32: “Behold, I AM AGAINST the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, (He saith), behold, I AM AGAINST them that prophesy false dreams … and do tell them, and cause My people to err by their lies.”
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5. GOD’S SWORD IS TURNED ON ALL LIARS
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Not only do we find that God’s hand is against all those who tell lies; but His sword is unsheathed and turned on them. what an awful and horrible thing to have God turn his sword loose on someone. The Lord cuts to pieces with His sword until there is nothing left of a man. It just simply means ut\er destruction for the physical man. See Rev. 19:11-21; 20:7-9 and Ezk. 38:22. For examples of this kind of punishment, we refer you to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Great Deluge sent on the anti-Deluvians, the one angel destroying 70,000 with God’s sword because David numbered Israel (1 Chron. 21 :1, 2, 14-17), and the angel that killed 185,000 Assyrians in one night before Jerusalem during Hezekiah’s reign. See 2 Chron. 32:21 and 2 Kings 19:35. These incidents show us how destructive God’s sword is and how helpless human beings are when He becomes angry with them. God’s sword is drawn on all liars, and if he has not already struck down some liar, He is in the very act of doing so. Possibly some relative, friend, or Christian, standing in the gap pleading with God for that liar, is why God has not already smitten him. Compare Ex. 32:7-14, 30-34 with Ezk. 22:30. Surely “A sword is upon the liars . . and they shall be dismayed” (Jer. 50:36).
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6. LIARS BECOME SILLY, LOSE THEIR WIT, ACT AND TALK FOOLISHLY, AND BECOME WEAK-MINDED
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Here we have another list of consequences that are certain to come to the liar, as a matter of punishment for his lying, that many never knew were some of God’s chastisements for this sin. “Habitual Liars” become so simpleminded until they actually believe that their listeners believe their unreasonable lying. They tell things that could not possibly have happened and that even a child, whose mind is on the alert for adventurous things and miraculous events, will not accept as truth. One does not have to continue lying very long before he will become simple minded and silly. If one desires to finish his days upon this earth in this category, and possibly die numbered with the insane, let him keep up that lying or indulge in it continually, and this will be his lot.
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To lose one’s wit means that he loses that ability or alertness of mind to suddenly and ingeniously assemble and associate ideas and words which are out of the ordinary. In its final stage, it means the loss of the reasoning power and faculty of the mind or senses. A person could go so far along this line until he could scarcely, if at all, comprehend his need of salvation or figure out in any case what would be the best thing for him to do. He would be stripped of all that power and ability to reason out matters and make a good decision. when the devil once has a person well on his way, floating down his lying stream toward the lake of fire, the person seldom has enough mind left to plan his escape or appropriate the means God has provided for his salvation. Possibly someone is beginning to wonder where the writer has obtained all his information, and if it is Scriptural. Quoting from Jer. 50:36, we read: “A sword is upon the liars; and they SHALL DOTE” — become silly, simpleminded, lose their wit, act and talk foolishly, etc. Then statistics and observation will back us up in this definition. The person whom you find telling unreasonable lies will be found to be quite simple minded and not very witty, if any at all. He will also likely be found to talk and act very foolishly and possibly be fickle-minded. People who want to be wise and have a reputation for wit and wisdom had better tell the truth and shun lying all the time. We are informed that to fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and there is more truth in this statement than poetry. Fear God and you will not lie. why should one not fear God and quit lying or refrain from lying if not already guilty, in the face of these punishments that await the liar?
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May God cause all of us to quake and tremble as this message and the Holy Spirit brings us before the judgment seat of Christ where we can now judge ourselves, and not be judged later (1 Cor. 11:31). We can now judge ourselves and plead guilty — send our sins of lying, and all other kind, on ahead of us to the judgment, and not have them trailing in behind us when we have to stand before that “Great white Throne Judgment Bar of God,” on that final judgment day. Remember, “A false witness (one who swears lies) shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies SHALL NOT ESCAPE.” My friend, the things we have been telling you about in this chapter concerning the punishment that awaits all liars are certain to come upon them. It is vouched for by God’s eternal Word which shall stand forever, even when and after heaven and earth have passed into oblivion passed totally out of our memory.
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“O God of heaven and earth, who shall deliver and save us from this lying age and generation? We are wretched and undone without you; yea, we are helpless creatures and without you the devil will in some way or another lead us off into this damnable sin. Be our Deliverer and Saviour, we pray. Yea, fill us with that “Spirit of truth” (John 16:13), the Holy Ghost (Compare John 14:17 and 26), and so inoculate us until there will be nothing but the truth in us. Then I know that we will not tell any lies. Amen.”
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7.GOD STOPS ALL LIARS FROM WITNESSING FOR HIM
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A liar cannot be a witness for the Lord. All liars are the devil’s witnesses and he must be proud of them. Who could be proud of a liar but the devil? If anyone should be proud of a liar, he would be a fool. David says, “The mouth of them that speak lies SHALL BE STOPPED.” It is a very easy matter for God to stop the mouths of His people from witnessing for Him when they begin lying. The control is in His hand and all He has to do is switch off the inspiration or anointing, as we frequently speak of it. The liar may go on talking or preaching but he is no more God’s witness. No one is a real witness of the Lord who is not inspired or anointed of the Holy Spirit to speak. Our words and sermons must be inspired or given of the Lord in order for our witnessing to be of Him. No more anointed singing, testifying, preaching, teaching, shouting or worship for the liar. If the anointing is gone and one realizes the Lord has departed from him, as he did from King Saul, he will do well to look around and see if that old lying spirit has not switched the currant off. One may lie and act a hypocrite; but that does not at all class him among God’s true witnesses. He is a wolf among the sheep, a well without water, clouds without rain, and a terrible offender in God’s sight.
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8. LIARS CANNOT ABIDE IN GOD’S HOUSE, NEITHER IN HIS SIGHT
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“He that worketh deceit (and one has to almost lie in every case to deceive anyone) SHALL NOT dwell within My house (church): he that telleth lies SHALL NOT tarry in My sight” (Psa. 101:7). God’s house is not one any more that can be built with mortal hands. It is a spiritual building (See Eph. 2:19-21) and, therefore, God can put one out of His building though he still remains in some church or organization. There is a day coming when God is going to cast all liars out of His sight, just as He cast the children of Israel and Judah out of His sight, in days of yore (Jer. 7:15; 15:1). This might not appear to be a very bad or sore punishment to some now, but wait until they experience it. To be cast out of God’s sight does not mean necessarily that one is where God cannot see him; but that he is where he cannot see God or even get a glimpse of Him, His presence or His power, in any form or manner.
W.e are sometimes relieved of our distress over the loss of loved ones, who have been placed out of our sight beneath the sod of some cemetery, by viewing one of their pictures. There will not likely be any comforting pictures of the crucified Christ hanging on the walls of Hell for one to behold. They will be deprived of every vision and likeness of our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ — especially will this be true following the “Great white Throne Judgment.” You, like Paul and other Christians, may have beheld the Lord and His glory in some vision of the night; but if you turn away from Him by lying, you will soon be where you will never see that wonderful and sympathetic face again. Remember, the Lord has said: “He that telleth lies shall not tarry in My sight,” and you may as well expect this if you lie and die guilty of this sin.
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9. FINALLY, HELL!
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We have listed, in this chapter, a great many punishments that await all liars though not nearly all of them. There are none of the punishments we have dealt with prior to this paragraph that will or can equal hell, that burning lake of fire which is filled with brimstone and produces an unending experience of death, known as the “second death.” when it comes to explaining the tortures of that place with pen or tongue, it is beyond the English vocabulary to supply us with words to describe it — it is just hell! and more of hell, and hell that has no end to it. When one wants to speak of the terribleness of something that he cannot find words to express how awful it is, he just simply says, “It was hell.”
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 and there are surely other ways a person can lie. Surely hell, that indescribable place of torment, must have enlarged her mouth to receive all these multitudes and millions of liars who have been pouring into it for ages past and up to the present time. God told Isaiah, or informed us through this prophet, that He had enlarged hell so much that it was beyond measure (Isa. 5:14). So hell is going to be large enough to accommodate all liars, we can be assured of that, and that all liars are going there. See Rev. 21:8 and Prov. 19:5.
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Surely the readers  should be ready by this time to consider God’s remedy and inoculation for the sin of lying, after having read of the various punishments and consequences that awaits the liar. So we now pass with you to the final chapter of this book for the much needed and prized information. Let me plead with you to give the following chapter your most prayerful consideration for your own eternal welfare.
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GOD’S REMEDY AND INOCULATION FOR LYING
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THE WORD OF GOD
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The Word of God is certainly to be considered and resorted to if one desires and hopes to free himself from all lying and he truthful in every action and statement. Jesus informed His disciples that they had been cleansed through the Word which He had spoken unto them (John 15:3). Then the Psalmist said, “Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might NOT sin against Thee.” So there is no question but that there is a cleansing element and an inoculation against lying and all other sins in the Word of God.
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A good knowledge of the Scriptures concerning the various punishments and consequences of lying should make any God fearing person seek the Lord for a greater filling of the Spirit of Truth. Too, when one reads and finds that God has barricaded the New Jerusalem and heaven against all liars (Rev. 21:27), and that no one but he who speaks the truth in his heart (Psa. 15:1, 2) is going to DWELL in God’s holy hill (high heaven) and ABIDE in His house (church), he is certainly made to see that one needs to be kept by the power of God at all times and places.
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Jesus made use of the Word of God to defeat Satan during one of the arch enemy’s worst attacks upon Him. What power of resistance He wielded when He said: “It is written!” If the Word of God proved so helpful to our Lord during His sojourn and days of testing here on this earth, it certainly should be read and adhered to, especially by all of God’s children. It will certainly help cleanse one from all untruthfulness and. play a great part in inoculating him against all lying; “For the Word of God is QUICK and POWERFUL” (”Full of life and power.” Weymouth). Heb. 4:12. Read Psa. 1:1-6 and Josh. 1:1-9 and be further enlightened concerning the power and consequences of the written Word, which is assured to those who will constantly meditate upon it, believe it (Heb. 11:6), and obey it.
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THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH
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“Howbeit when He, the Spirit of TRUTH, is come, He will guide you into ALL truth” (John 16:13).
“But ye shall receive power, AFTER that the Holy Ghost is come upon you” (Acts 1:8), to tell the truth. See 1 John 2:27.
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There are TWO predominating and controlling spirits in the world, besides our own human spirit, that we have to do or deal with. One of these spirits predominates to establish truth and righteousness in one’s life and conduct; but the other tends to lead man in the other direction, and the evil spirit, known as Satan and the devil, is an outright lying spirit. As we have already explained in chapter five, he never tells the truth. If he gets control and possesses one in any degree, he certainly injects his lying spirit into him. One must stay free from all of Satan’s influence and control or he will lie in spite of himself. The human spirit is of a neutral nature. It is easily influenced by either of these predominating spirits of good and evil. Therefore, one should see to it that his own spirit is influenced and controlled only by the “Spirit of Truth,” if he desires to always be truthful.
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There is no need of man that demands one to be a recipient of the Holy Ghost any more than the one we are now dealing with. Some people, and many of them professed Christians, do not see the need of their seeking God for the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and being possessors of this experience today. It is a matter of impossibility for one to always be as truthful as he should be without it. The human spirit is not capable of guarding itself to this extent, for it was not created in that capacity. God has created us as dependent beings, and not at all independent. Jesus frankly warned His disciples that without Him they could do NOTHING (John 15:5). The Holy Ghost can be received today, with the evidence of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance the same as it was received at Pentecost; “For the promise is unto YOU (Peter’s audience on the day of Pentecost), and to YOUR CHILDREN! and to ALL that are AFAR off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” See Acts 2:1-4, 37-39; 19:1-6. Between ten and fifteen million people, scattered all over the world and in every nation, have this experience and keeping power in their lives today, as a witness that it is for “ALL that are afar off,” as Peter said.
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We shall deal further with this point at the close of this chapter, especially as pertaining to those who have received their baptism in the Holy Ghost.
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FAITH THAT APPROPRIATES
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One cannot appropriate the promises of God unless he believes God meant them for Him as an individual. “Faith WITHOUT works is dead, … being alone,” says James, the brother of our Lord. Then Paul informs us, “He that cometh to God MUST believe that He is (that there is a God and that He now lives or exists), and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” Jesus also informs us, that “all things are possible to him that believeth.” The faith that appropriates is the faith that goes into action-does something about the problem confronted or involved. Our next paragraph will show you and explain what faith in action is, at least in part.
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PRAYING WITHOUT CEASING
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Just as one cannot obtain things from God without faith, he does not receive them without asking God for them (Matt. 7:7, 8), and that day by day. “Ye have not, because ye ask not” (James 4:2). We cannot receive a lifetime supply of spiritual food, power, grace, etc., by praying one prayer, any more than one can eat enough, naturally speaking, to sustain himself indefinitely. This is where “praying without ceasing” comes in. Our spiritual needs must be a matter of daily prayer. “Though our outward man perish, yet the INWARD man is renewed DAY BY DAY.” Right here is the secret of why many Christians grow weak spiritually and lose out with God — fail to stay victorious in their daily living for God. They do not “continue in prayer, and watch in prayer with thanksgiving,” as Paul exhorted the Colossians to do. The model prayer given by our Lord instructs us to pray: “Give us THIS day (not some future day or year) our DAILY bread.” God has spiritual power and soul vitamins conditioned about like the manna He served to the children of Israel in the Wilderness, for those forty years. If they gathered a week’s or month’s supply and kept it for over one day, excepting the Sabbath day, it bred worms and stank. Some lazy Israelites would have preferred gathering enough in one day to have lasted them for many days; but God would not have it that way. The same is true with many well meaning Christians of today. They would like to obtain enough soul-food and power during one prayer to last them indefinitely. God could not afford to arrange things thus; for there would be too much idleness among His people; and an idle soul is soon meddling and into various kinds of mischief.
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To “pray without ceasing” does not necessarily mean that one must pray for twenty-four hours a day; but that he must pray daily and continually renew or repeat his petitions to the Lord. Prayer must be a daily routine for every Christian if he expects to obtain the needed grace from the Lord for each day. One who conducts family worship and prayer once a day, or who sees that he gets alone with God in the secret place of prayer every day, prays without ceasing, and you can make this application to all kinds of prayer.
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A PURPOSED HEART
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God assures one that he can obtain the things that he desires if he will seek for them with all his heart. Some people are not daily concerned about spiritual matters and their soul’s need. If we want to obtain God’s favor and help, we must first let Him see that we have a WILL and PURPOSE of heart to do and accomplish certain things. Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the king’s wine and meats, and God saw to it that Daniel did not have to drink the wine or eat the king’s meat. A purposed heart goes a long way in influencing God to grant our petitions, don’t ever forget this. God is not out to waste His time and power upon people who have no purpose of heart. Such a person is like a ship without a rudder or helm — there is no telling which way he may drift or turn. The man who never purposes in his heart to seek God and get right with His Maker will die lost — God will never save such a person. If He did, He would be saving him against his own will. We are free moral agents with the power of choice granted unto us by the Lord, and God would contradict His creative plans and actions if He did things for us against our will. This should help you to more thoroughly understand why a purposed heart, concerning telling the truth, is so essential if one wants God to give him grace to always he one hundred percent truthful.
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A few quotations from the pen of David will probably add some more emphasis to this thought and paragraph concerning the need of a purposed heart, in the matter of being truthful, or of obtaining grace from God to help one be truthful, “I am PURPOSED that my mouth shall not transgress” (tell lies, tattle, backbite, judge, criticize, etc.). “I said (David speaking), I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not (lie not) with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.” David was going his limit as for purposing not to lie or say things he should not speak. -He later learned to petition God’s help and assistance in the matter, and I am sure God undertook for him. We find him uttering the following words after he had failed to carry out the purposes of his heart, by his own strength and wit: “Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; KEEP the door of my lips.” Don’t overlook the need of petitioning God for assistance along this line, though you desire and purpose to be truthful.
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CONFESS AND CORRECT ALL ERRORS, FALSE STATEMENTS, ETC.
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This is something that we almost have to force the natural man to do, especially at times when the circumstances are not so inviting. Solomon gives us this admonition concerning our faults and sins: “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso CONFESSETH and FORSAKETH them shall have (or obtain) mercy” (forgiveness). Don’t say you never lied or that you have always been truthful, and, thereby, endeavor to cover up your untruthfulness and contradict God’s Word. “If we say we have not sinned (lied at some time or other — remembering that any untruth is a lie), we make Him a liar” — contradict the Bible (1 John 1:10). John, the beloved, also has this to say about confessing our sins and lying: “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (lying and untruthfulness included), and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness” (lying).
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Incorrect or false statements are charged against us as a lie, even when not premeditated or willfully uttered until we confess them. See Lev. 5:17 and Num. 15:27-29. So save yourselves, in this manner, from this untoward generation of which there are not many people who tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, all the time. Reread the paragraphs concerning “Premeditated Lying” and “Unintentional Lying” given in chapter two on “Various Forms of Lying,” in connection with this one, and you will better understand why we have to confess sins that we did not intend to commit. Sin of this nature has to be cared for the same as that mud, stain and grease that you get on your natural garments by accident or due to carelessness. Such stains and soiled garments must be cleaned the same as those soiled from wear and perspiration. So is it with our souls. If sin has marred it, there must be an application of the blood before it can be removed, and God demands that we call His attention to these special needs the same as the cleaner does. If you just put a suit or dress in for a general dry cleaning that has some stain and unwashable spots on it without calling the cleaners attention to it, you cannot blame him if the dress or suit is returned with those spots still showing. God wants us to put our finger right on the spots (confess exactly and definitely) we desire to be removed from our soul. Too many Christians go in for a “Dry Cleaning” spiritually when they need an overall washing with “Fullers soap” (Mal. 3:2), applied with plenty of water in the name of Jesus Christ (Read Col. 3:17; Acts 4:12; 2:38; 22:16 and 1 Jno. 5:8), or by partaking of the Lord’s supper worthily if they have already been baptized in water. See Heb. 6:1-3; 1 Cor. 10:16 and Matt. 26:27, 28.
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There are too many “Dry Cleaning Establishments”  (churches, if you please) in the land today recommending a cleansing for the soul OTHER than REPENTANCE (See Luke 13:5; Acts 2:37,38; 3:19; 17:30 and 2 Peter 3:9), which includes the confessing of one’s sins to God and whoever might he personally wronged or affected thereby, and that EXCLUDE “the WATER AND BLOOD BATH” which can only be obtained by being immersed or baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ. The water and the blood are included in the “New Birth” the same as the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Compare St. John 3:3-7 with I John 5:8.
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Water baptism in the titles, “Father, Son and Holy Ghost” does not remit or wash away one’s sins. It is like washing clothes in water without putting any soap, lye, bleach or bluing in it. One may rub, boil, and rinse all he pleases, but the dirt and stain will not all come out. How careless and indifferent some people are when it comes to seeking cleansing for the soul. The Scriptures plainly and definitely inform us that, “Without shedding of blood (there) is no remission” of sin and that “Repentance and remission of sins should he preached in HIS NAME” (the name of Jesus Christ — Luke 24:46, 47). See also Acts 2:37, 38; 10:43; and John 20:31. Remember, Jesus has informed us that he who tries to get in some way other than what He has planned will not make it any more than a thief would. Compare John 1(1:1 and 14:6. Therefore, confess your sins, if you desire forgiveness and cleansing from them, and be buried in the watery grave by baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, if you have not thus been baptized.
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LIVE A SPIRIT-FILLED LIFE
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We now come to the final paragraphs of this chapter and the whole book. We have been studying the remedy that will rid one of sin and lying in the foregoing paragraphs of this chapter, and now we come to the PERMANENT INOCULATION against sin and lying. “Greater is He (The Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit) that is IN you, than he (the devil or one of his evil spirits) that is in the world” (1 John 4:4). There is nothing so important to our being truthful as being filled and staying filled with the Holy Ghost or the Spirit of truth. See 1 John 2:27 and St. John 16:14. The watch that David could only have BEFORE his mouth (Psa. 141:3), we can now have IN our souls (St. John 14:16-20,26; 15:26), which is nothing less than the Holy Ghost that is evidenced by the speaking with tongues as He enters Into our very soul and body. See Acts 2:1-4; 10:44-46; 19:1-6 and Isa. 28:11, 12 with Mk. 16:17.
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This Holy Ghost, which is the power and Spirit of God within us, can and will keep us from all evil and sin (Acts 1:8; Jude 20 and 1 Peter 1:1-10) and “is able to keep you from falling, and to present you FAULTLESS before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy.” — Jude. If one will not thus inoculate himself against lying, then he will “fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken” by Satan and his lying spirit, as Isaiah has prophesied (Isa. 28:11-13), and in the final he will land In hell (Rev. 21:8). General Booth’s prediction concerning twentieth century Christianity is coming true. He said, in part: “I consider that the chief danger that confronts the coming century will be, religion WITHOUT the Holy Ghost,” and there is plenty of this kind today.
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It is one thing to be filled or get filled with the Spirit and it is another thing to KEEP filled. Many are filled with the Holy Ghost and do not KEEP filled with it. One must KEEP inoculated with the Spirit by STAYING filled with it, as Paul exhorts in Ephesians 5:18. It requires as much or more to keep filled with the Holy Ghost as it does to obtain it. All the expenses of operating an automobile are not dispensed with when one purchases the ear. In fact the operating expenses begin after he buys and begins to use or operate the car. It costs a person some of his time and a great deal of devotion to God and His cause in order to STAY filled with the Spirit. One does not sleep out his salvation — it is worked out with much fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12). There has to be a great deal of praying in the Holy Ghost (Jude 20), anointed and inspired praying, in order for one to stay Spirit FILLED and inoculated against lying and all forms of sin. The Holy Ghost fills one’s soul and keeps the devil, and all lying and evil spirits, out of him, just as the filling keeps the germs out of one’s tooth and preserves it (1 King 4:4).
.Some people, who attain unto a Spirit-filled life, fool around and use up their supply without seeking for the refilling (Acts 4:24-31) often enough, and become more sinful and untruthful than they have ever been (2 Pet. 2:20). But this is not a fault of the Holy Ghost, it is a fault of their own. If there is no gasoline in the tank of a car, there is no power there to make it go. The same is true with a Christian without the Holy Ghost.
.May we bow our heads and join in prayer with Jude as we close this message: “Now unto Him (Jesus) that is able to KEEP YOU from falling, and to present YOU FAULTLESS before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God OUR SAVIOUR, be glory (for all the good accomplished by this message or little book) and majesty, dominion and power (in your life and mine), both NOW and EVER.” Amen!
 
 
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PS Anyone who is naive to say to me from Alberta now too  that any professing Christians do not drink alcohol, get drunk just should read all the letters I often do get from professing Christian pastors acknowledging they drink wine, alcohol and trying to justify it.. I have often written about this too.. Drunkenness is just as much a sin as lying…
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See
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/politics-political-corruptions-inducements-christians-alcoholics
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/the-time-has-come-to-end-glamourising-alcohol-sponsorship/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/everyones-does-it-the-liars-now-too/

November 12, 2008

as to why some have left their Church

  

I have written about this before, if you do not like your church, merely start your own church, most churches historically are splinter, break away groups http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/
 
There are many reasons people still do give for quitting, leaving their church, reasons  even such as ,
 
1: There are too many hypocrites in the church
2: all they want is my money
3: I do not support a one man ministry
4: they only practice a small portion of the Bible, they pick and choose what they like,
5: it is just a cultural, or a social club
6: they kicked me out cause I was poor
7 The Church was imperfect and it reminded me I was imperfect
8 They did not recognize my spiritual gifts or ministry
9 God told me to establish my own church
 
Sadly most Christians still really do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible  personally too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, so they talk about things they really do not know, that they have not experienced, and yes the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too,  but they still love to judge the others but why?Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments. Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches today We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatic, have no foundation of the Holy Spirit in their life. Most believers that I have met have never once read the bible cover to cover. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Nothing could be father from the truth, disobedience and rebellion no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – brings forth eternal death in your soul. (Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15
 
It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it.But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, anointed gifts, so how  can you really honestly judge any of the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..
 
> I LEFT THE TONGUES MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF:
1. Sincere convictions regarding their doctrines, emphases, and practices.
2. An unsound biblical basis for their doctrine of the Holy Spirit.
3. An over-emphasis of one gift of the Holy Spirit.
4. An under-emphasis of other doctrines.
5. Their “experience” orientation.
6. The undermining of the personality of the Holy Spirit.
7. Spiritual pride and disunity produced by their doctrine.
8. The teaching that tongues-speaking is a sign of spirituality and even of salvation.
9. Sign-seeking instead of faith.
10. Questionable activities practiced and condoned.
11. The fear of questioning the so-called activities of the Holy Spirit.
12. The view that the Corinthian church was a model church.
13. The danger of claiming extra-biblical revelation.
14. The excesses and deceptive practices condoned in divine healing campaigns.
15. The tendency to blind, unquestioning devotion to popular leaders.
16. The possibility that the Charismatic Movement will be instrumental in producing the prophesied world ecumenical church of the last days.
17. Their distortion of the true Spirit-filled life.

>Miracles (divine intervention suspending natural law) have ceased (Zech 13:1-4). God is still all-powerful, but he is today working providentially. The miracles of the New Testament were temporary, confirming Jesus was the Christ, and the apostles were his messengers (John 3:2; Acts 1:8). When the New Testament revelation was completed (1 Cor 13:8-10), miracles ceased (Mark 16:19-20; Heb.2:3-4). The New Testament is complete (Jude 3, John 16:13). The word is what we need to guide us (2 Tim 3:160.

>As a Pentecostal, I never saw a miracle like the lame or blind healed or the dead raised. They came unhealed and left unhealed. One of the greatest “miracles” of Pentecostalism was that I did not have the eyes to see the truth (2 Thess 2:9-12), but let the power of suggestion and emotions blind me.

You went to the wrong church, for  I have seen miracles the last 50 decades, real ones and often, and if you humbly seek God and not do your own thing you will find him here on earth, he is all around all of us too.. http://afollowerofchrist.multiply.com/ 

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too. But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead.. So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game? so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is also still reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..
 
Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists too, and many others they also are not Christians- certainly thus not anointed by the Holy Sprit, and not by along shot.. for they had missed out as to who Jesus Christ the Messiah was, and not just who who the Holy Spirit is.. so how can they even be anointed ones.. Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists, others have   a religion yes, but the true religion? certainly not.
 
Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn.. I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too.
do see also
 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 
 

And the answers to the question as to why some have left the church is not more important then as to why some persons have next left their Faith altogether. In my lifetime 50 percent of once loudly professing Christians, like the Apostle Judas left the faith altogether, basically cause God did not give them what they had wanted, hoped, expected initially..  so they no longer had any use  for God..  for they had falsely used   religion  as a mere   tool to advance themselves, or to prosper, or whatever.. and when they did not get what they wanted.. they gave it up on their religion too easily… and generally tend to blame  others for doing so in the process too 

 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof.. 

My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?

If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish cheapskates. True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one hour and pray daily for others. And what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act like real anointed Christians.

I admit there are much too many even crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON often that CHRISTIAN  FIGHTS have  ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).” 

(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Actually the degree of negative personal consequences also are determined as to how quickly you on your own had repented of your major sins, or did Gold almost have to force you into confession of your sins as he did to King David And many People would know that already too had they actually read the Bible as they lying often claim they do too.

Where is the power of God that we see in the Old and New testament Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible? Why do we not see this power.. Is it’s God’s fault or ours rather still?

 Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.

The world is seeking scientists or money. The Church is seeking scholars. But God is seeking his true servant, true believers, true prophets. Most people even professing Christians have not experienced God goodness, power, manifestation, Holy Spirit, His Word too, cause they are too busy still doing their own thing even.
 
(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

 

(Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

 

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/fallacies/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 

November 9, 2008

The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible

 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High
 
Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible  include  Wind, Air, Breathe, fire, water, oil, truth, light, power  as well.
 
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send  in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things  to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. – John 14:26  And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened,  and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him.–Mark 1:10
 
Various symbols are used in the Bible to represent the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, God now  including a dove, wind, light, oil, and fire and others, where  each symbol emphasizes a different, permanent, aspect, attribute  of the same the person of the Holy Spirit. 

The Dove – The Hebrew word for dove is yohnah and is derived from the word anah, meaning, “to mourn,” showing that the name comes from its characteristic mournful coo. The dove was the preferred bird for sacrifice if only one bird was used, and usually mentioned first when both a dove and a pigeon were required. Doves has been called “the sheep of the bird world” because of their gentle disposition. They are noted for their devotion to their mates.  The dove is thus used as a representation of the holy spirit apparently because of its sympathetic nature, compassion for the human race. Jesus by his Holy Spirit   demonstrated   compassion by healings and miraculous feedings of the multitudes, and by his willingness to give the ultimate sacrifice of his own life for mankind’s salvation.

Oil- Note twenty-third psalm says, “Thou anointest my head with oil.”  Isaiah 11:2, “The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, 1) the spirit of wisdom and understanding, 2) the spirit of counsel and might, 3) the spirit of knowledge and 4) of the fear of the LORD.” (See also Exodus 31:3.)-

Individuals were anointed for a specific service, the leaders and  Kings were anointed,   Priests were anointed, Psalm 133:1,2. A Prophet was anointed such as  Elijah was told to anoint Elisha as his successor (1 Kings 19:16). Jesus was anointed. “And Moses took the anointing oil and anointed the tabernacle and all that was therein, and sanctified them. . . . And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron’s head, and anointed him to sanctify him.” − Leviticus 8:10,12  “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek . . . ” − Isaiah 61:1  These two texts show direct close connection between the holy anointing oil and the work of the holy spirit. 

Oil for healing  “Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord” (James 5:14). The word here translated sickness in the next verse is astheneo, and literally means “without strength” and may refer to spiritual depression as well as physical sickness. In verse 15 the word sick is the Greek kamnos and is translated “be wearied” in Hebrews 12:3. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

Oil for medical treatment: “From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness in it, but wounds, and bruises, and putrefying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment” (Isaiah 1:6). The Good Samaritan “bound his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.” When Jesus  sent out the twelve disciples two by two, among other acts they “cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them” (Mark 6:13).

Oil  used as a moisturizer, Soap and toiletries.  . It was with this balm that a woman ministered unto Jesus in the Pharisee’s house. Jesus said, “My head with oil thou didst not anoint; but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment” (Luke 7:46). Likewise the prophet writes, “Then washed I thee with water; yea, I thoroughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil” (Ezekiel 16:9).

Oil   as fuel, source of light (John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.15  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

 
Note the golden lampstand in the holy of the tabernacle (Exodus 35:14). The operation of these lampstands can be seen by comparing Zechariah 4:1-14 with Revelation 11:1,2. In Zechariah the oil for the lampstand’s seven lamps comes from two olive trees, which are identified in Revelation as God’s “two witnesses” (the Old and New Testaments). The seven pipes carrying the oil represent the means of conveying this oil to the lamps, i.e., the seven messengers of Revelation 2 and 3.

The concept of the oil of the Holy Spirit being used for a proper light is also shown in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). There the supply of oil distinguishes the one group from the other. This illustrates how  professing  Christians with a sufficiency of the holy spirit become a part of the  final wedding party with Christ, while those having little or none next do not.   

 
Fire and light are symbols of the Holy spirit again. Fire itself also   signifies  destruction or purging as in the refining of metals. On Pentecost we meet yet another representation of the holy spirit. Along with the sound of a mighty rushing wind “there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them” (Acts 2:3).   (Isa 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
 
Wind is another common symbol of the work, presence of the Holy Spirit.  The Greek and Hebrew words translated “spirit” (pneuma and ruach) are also translated either “wind” or “breath ” Both the words wind and breath are also used in close conjunction with the Holy Spirit himself, as can be seen from these texts:
 
“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a mighty rushing wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting . . . and they were all filled with the holy spirit.” – Acts 2:1,2,4 “And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the holy spirit.” – John 20:22
 
We find, in the original creative process, that the breath of God was the activating force in giving life to Adam: “The LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul” (Genesis 2:7). Likewise it is the spirit that gives life to the true Christian and it is the same spirit that will eventually raise all mankind from the grave and endow them with new life.
 
Thus the distinct aspects of the Holy Spirit are shown by these symbols which picture the functions the holy spirit is to desirably  play in each of our lives:
 
 AND YET WHILE MANY EVEN PREACHERS TALK ABOUT THE HOLY SPRIT THEY HAVE YET TO EVEN TRULY EXPERIENCE HIM PERSONALLY. They Have not been born  even FROM above or anointed  by the breathe of Christ’s spirit. So they talk about him as an “it” rather.. and thus show their void reality.

  “The spirit breathes where HE  will, and YOU  hear HIS voice, but YOU DO NOT KNOW  FROM WHERE HE CAME , or where he goes; thus it is so with every one who has been born of the spirit” (John 3:8 ).

 
Not everyone next has yet been born from above too. But Ye Must be born again said Jesus to enter Heaven next.

 and what about you have you recieved the anointing of the Holy Spirit in full yet? Never to late to do so as well.

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/

 

“Someone once said ” Lord, fill me daily with your Holy Spirit for I am a leaky vessel. Let us come each day afresh to the Lord for that fresh in filling of the Holy Spirit. That our cup my be over flowing. http://peebles.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/psalm-23-v-5-he-anoints-my-head-with-oil-my-cup-over-flows/

Acts 1 V 8 says “ But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” God wants our lives to be power full for him, with joy in the Holy Spirit, for as the Bible says in Romans 14 v 17 ” For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit “.

We should never take for granted, that we are filled with Gods Holy Spirit. Each and every day, would it not be a good idea to ask the Lord, ” Lord please fill me a fresh with your Holy Spirit, anoint my head again a fresh with the Holy Spirit, fill my cup and let it over flow with the peace, power and joy in the Holy Spirit “. Thank you Jesus.

May the Lord anoint you head with oil, may your cup over flow.”

do see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

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