Missing the point?

May 30, 2008

“Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry still?

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Hey I really do admit I do dislike any person who so readily can see the other persons sins, can list the other persons supposed wrongs, but cannot face, admit, list their own wrongs.. and I especially do rightfully think all pastors need to show a much better example here too.. The TACF pastors  included.

For a very very long time this remains as a popular post for  sadly the infighting amongst various Christian churches seems to continue as each one tries to prove it is the greatests in the kingdom of heaven? http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/the-need-of-one-distancing-their-good-works-from-their-evil-ones/

“USING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF AIRD & BERLIS AND HOWARD WINKLER OF TORONTO,   APOSTLE JOHN ARNOTT, SENIOR PASTOR STEVE LONG, AND THE BOARD OF THE EVANGELICAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP NOW RENAMED CATCH THE FIRE, (PLAINTIFS AND CREDITORS,)    SUED A TOTAL STRANGER FOR $ 50 MILLION DOLLARS AND BY COMMITTING  PERJURY, FABRICATION OF EVIDENCE AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE”
While it is absolutely true that the love of Jesus for us, in that while we were yet sinners, he loved us and forgives, is  the biggest personal drawing force to God.. one of the saddest realization of mine next in real life is that half of the once loudly professing Christians will depart from real  faith next due to a variety of false reasons, such as the false pursuit of riches, being seduced, incomplete repentance, false denial of one sins.. etc., finally thus they are unwilling to pay the actual  price, to take up their cross and to follow  fully after God .  Divorce also clearly is till  is not a valid teaching, doctrine of  of the Christian church  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/
1/7 of the tithe collected by the priests was to be disbursed to the local poor people, the new testament equivalent of the churches weekly distribution to the poor persons,  and how many of these church pastors who try to enforce tithing today keep even this obligations? Almost none and why was that? Greed.. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
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“Aird & Berlis did their Client Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship,  John Arnott and Steve Long a disservice by trying to bury  their “ financial and hate crimes” and by trying to destroy Mr. Walter Kambulow, the whistleblower, using the court system instead of telling their client to come clean!” http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/aberrational-theology/fraud-embezzlement-illegal-tax-free-benefits-by-the-executives-of-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-john-arnott-and-steve-long-2
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using the same courts, media  to abuse one another  IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TACF PASTORS FIRSTLY.
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Then a man of God came to Eli and said to him, “Thus says the LORD: ‘Did I not clearly reveal Myself to the house of your father when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh’s house?  ‘Did I not choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be My priest, to offer upon My altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod before Me? And did I not give to the house of your father all the offerings of the children of Israel made by fire? ‘Why do you kick at My sacrifice and My offering which I have commanded in My dwelling place, and honor your sons more than Me, to make yourselves fat with the best of all the offerings of Israel My people?’  “Therefore the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I said indeed that your house and the house of your father would walk before Me forever.’ But now the LORD says: ‘Far be it from Me; for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed. 1 Samuel 2:27-30

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“It seems to me part of the problem is that the Assembly of God denomination allows ministers to preside over board meetings instead of   church members, as in other more democratically operated Protestant churches.

We all like the pleasant things of God and life, and shy away from unpleasant and controversial things, such as the present day sins of the pastors and evangelists in this great land. We say things such as ‘touch not God’s anointed’ and some of us worship them as kings. The Prophet Isaiah reminded us:

“Be a shelter to them from the face of the spoiler. For the extortioner is at an end, devastation ceases, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.” (Isaiah 16:4)

Sometimes, others see and know more about the truth of the Kings of Israel and others in that they were largely spoilers, thieves, liars and oppressors. Not all Kings in Israel in bible times were good and kind; most of them were terribly wicked and despots.

As a denomination, the Assembly of God has not accepted responsibility for the actions of their prominent members in their organization. It has done nothing to bring justice and healing to the real victims in these cases. Instead, they it has chosen to console and comfort the aggressors, the noble ones, and the perpetrators of the crimes. The victims were mostly elderly people, who didn’t have the physical strength or financial resources to fight back and recover what they lost. ” http://walthope.tripod.com/

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It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  SUCH AS TACF AS WELL too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever.

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FOR WE TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
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As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?
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I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.
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(Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
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There are still much too many persons with a big bad mouth even  in my own related families, who got so used to wagging  their big bad  tongues, telling their lies about others, that next  they had falsely started to think they all can and will get away with it for ever.. and they are next shocked when they are rightfully not only rebuked, but  fully exposed to all as to who they are really .. as slanderers, liars and human rights abusers..
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Clearly now I too got really tired of being lied to and abused by much too many professional bullies, perverts that I encounter too often in life now still, even in society, churches too  so I next started to openly, personally expose them and to make them reap real personal negative consequences rightfully here too..
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  Here is another simple fact of undeniable truth of life.. All of us seem to spend a lot of time trying to find our personal happiness in life, and many seem to fail at it, so we then tend to try to blame our failure here next on being the fault of others..  The problem firstly now here often starts with one’s false definition of happiness.
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Happiness generally, firstly is doing a job well that you like to do and so  many people are unhappy cause they are also unrealistic, and lazy.  Most persons also next do not become deliberately despots or perverts in life from birth, it is a decision they generally do on their own make later in life.. Our self-worth, self esteem is a direct result of the good things you do , have done.. do the bad things and you will have a low self worth, poor self acceptance, and it is a waste of time thus to blame it mostly on the others.
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(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
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Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
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It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seemsMany Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
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(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
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The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicans, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.
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Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
Yes, the Bad pastors, bad elders, bad cops, bad politicians  continue to exist  cause likely their supporters are  also now bad too.
  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
My own twin brother Walter had written to me   some interesting comments about the need to deal with hireling type preachers and it should include their restitutions as well.. Would be nice if everyone practiced it now too.
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Wrongful inactions, Cover ups, False denial of bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, false pastors, false priests are much too common but nevertheless they do get exposed, revealed to all as to what they are often now like  too, and get what they deserve, and not the first or last time.

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“Unfortunately most religious leaders today seem to be hirelings and not true shepherds! All they care about is their own ministry and self interests and not the best interest of the sheep!

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The bottom line is that if you forgive some people without dealing with the issues at hand, the judgment that will fall on them from God will also fall on you! Numbers 16 tells us what happens when you join forces with the wrong people to do evil and wicked things!
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Christians can be exploited as well
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Most evangelicals teach mandatory  forgiveness! And in a sense we forgive the person that did the act but we don’t forgive the act and according to Matthew 5:21-26, Luke 18:1-8, Hebrews 10:26-26, and Revelation 2:18-23 we anticipate God to avenge us if there is no restitution or repentance.
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Evangelicals love to talk about THE NEED OF OTHERS FOR forgiveness but not much THEIR OWN ACTS SUCH AS tacf OR about bona fide repentance and restitution! ( Why?)
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John 19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 19:6 So he made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 19:7 But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner.” 19:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.” 19:9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham; Zacchaeus demonstrated his faith not only by his repentance but by restitution! “
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FOR WE ALL TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
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And once exposed most people do not accept, support  a crook, even if it is a Minister now too.
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Most people still rightfully do blame the governments, politicians, bad cops and bad judges, for the existence of much too many crooked civil and public servants, crooked business persons, crooked persons in Canada.  More Laws that are unenforced also tend to be still mostly useless too. Let’s simply just agree the whole system is often corrupt, eh?
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We need better Policing and “Tougher penalties for sure!” You will get a longer jail sentence for robbing a convenience store of $50 than fleecing consumers,  investors for millions (billions) or stealing any of the tax payer’s money.    Put all of the criminals in jail, and their bad supervisors now too,  where they belong, and always do  take way from them all that they have stolen now as well..  Restitution of all items stolen should be in the criminal sentencing now as well..  Until people start getting fired and criminal charges are laid, the bad acts of theirs will continue. And do amend the criminal code to include a mandatory 5 year minimum jail sentence and a fine not less than 10 times the money involved, for breach of public trust. This amendment would cover all forms of corruption from conflict of interest to false accounting. By the time the first dozen or so of these crooks have been banged up – the rest won’t find a bad public office so attractive once they know they can’t abuse,  fleece the citizens, consumers, taxpayer.
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LK 17:3 “Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty still serves as a rightful deterrent example to all and is still one of the best approaches on how to deal with the evil persons. Even the Bible records openly the unrepentant sins of many persons and their real  negative consequences. Too many of the preachers are unacceptably also guilty of preaching “Do what I say and not what I do still too”.
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Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind, and  yes church pastors included now, for  there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for the Church pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. reaping for their lies, misdirection.. and it is also still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back, and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly now  is an unacceptable  common occurrence yes  in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and sadly this is now how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse also starts to talk to any others now about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..

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There are yes too many  false sheep who worship those crooked leaders, shepherds, pastors dressed in nice suits. Not trying to impress anyone, or showing off I next went to a new church dressed in my clean, regular daily clothes. I next too was surprised when now one said hello to me nor did they great me, and a few services later this continued to happen. So I prayed about it and to my surprise God said they were harlots, prostitutes. Embarrassed at this revelation I decided I would fully proof for myself this was true. So next Sunday I put on a white shirt, tie, nice black pants, and a white sports jacket and most everyone said hello  to me. Incidentally the same thing happens to me on the bus as well.. Why?  Also the very same pastor of this professing Christian church dressed there in a nice suit who also did not talk to me as well was next charged with abuse, slander, lying, misappropriation of church funds, and was eventually fired. Now these days when I see these peacock members, deacons, ushers  strutting around church in their fancy suits trying to impress the others , it causes me to be sick to my stomach still. It would be better if they used the money rather to help the poor and needy in their own church..

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POWER, CONTROL BUT ALSO NOW MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS TACF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO.. they seem to collect money under false pretences too often  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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Why do some of the too often dirty Canadian pastors think they still can get away with it? TACF AS WELL but  not for long!

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Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely

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The spin game  “Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. “A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective postive comments so far.. real negative comments were, are excluded. I too do have to admit that “bless the Outpouring” of God sounds too pharisical”.  Rather they should really say “we pray that the leaders also themselves set a good example by their personal repentence, godly behaviors”.
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Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor now IN THE PAST HAD OFTEN  on his own had told me now what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, so  I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. now a bit later, just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the real close relatives told me first hand now a whole different story from what the local pastor had told me. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, he had been even separated from his wife as well, and he had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. That was all news to me, a past  hidden family secret. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well.. Now Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor  or family members now too.  But in Canada TODAY IT SEEMS  70 percent of the preachers now are bad, rally not called by God.  Never mind the rest of the flock. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/
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Many many pastors do wrongfully still  do think that the citizens complaints about them it is all a big joke, they do laugh at it, mock them too. Write a letter to a pastor and see if they even do  even acknowledge it. AND WHEN THEY DO IT IS FULL OF LIES.
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Pastors do too often falsely think they are above the laws of the country  and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. How hypocrtical OF THEM. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the Christian, evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and really work for God rather then self. They all seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and yes  too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last perverts, crook. The bad Christian pastors seem to be trying to get falsely their rewards on earth  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also seem to preach. Who are they fooling but themselves as to what they really are.
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Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away penteocstals  from the US Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly, the CMA is also the church of Stephen Harper Canada’s prime Minister  and they both do have a very similar church bad management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the CHURCH expenditures next to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..  with transpaerency and accountability.. sounds like PM Harper too.
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There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many past personal encounters experiences Canada wide too that I had , but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby, Jesus,  with the dirty wash water. Rather next I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead.. 1/12 only and did the rest…
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”Your honor, there are more things than money—truth, honesty and justice. He [Strader] hasn’t been honest, and he is seeking to avoid justice with money.” (Assistant state Attorney Wayne Durden, Polk County, Florida at the sentencing of Dan Strader, 1995)  The problem with lying and thieving preachers in America is that they all preach to others but never listen to others. They are after all better than their sheep?  Someone should tell preachers such as Karl Strader, Benny Hinn and Randy White, who said I was demon possessed and needed to get a life because I don’t do what they did, that robbing and raping the money and well being of the sheep under their care is not just a “white collar crime.” They should read their own bible that they talk so much about and see what God said to Eli and his raping and thieving sons:”
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Now as to ”Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?  Posted by Job on May 29, 2008  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell  and are taking at least one person to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his online books which are too hot for them to handle!
They are also upset because this person has asked  “So for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. See http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=1524 5 and http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm
They are also upset because this former member has asked the government authorities to investigate why it is okay for TACF Vice President Steve Long to publically solicit by mail for tax free funds to pay off TACF President John Arnott mortgage but  not publically solicit by mail to pay for this former member mortgage as well as all his legal costs as a result of TACF nonprofit charity suing this former member because he blew the whistle on their crimes, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, perjury, sins, etc.
It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada,  liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!
But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit  as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of  January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,”  a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.
And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of  Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian.  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!”
Read ( most of these sites have been deleted) Liars and Perjurers in Revival  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf Todd Bentley http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf The False Prophets” Oral and Richard Roberts “http://cnt10c.tripod.com/ or.htm “The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm “The Charlatan” Karl Strader  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm The Losers Randy and Paul White http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm Down in Flames  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rc.htm The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm “The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm “The Bishop” http://cnt10d.tripod.com/blong.htm Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm “The Thieving CEO” Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm The Pentecostal God Fraud http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/pentecostal/godfraud.shtml Why is Pentecostalism a danger for Christianity? http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Protestantism-3427/Pentecostal-danger-Christianity.htm TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm

But thenonconformer Says in reply  Hey this is a all a big Joke.. even about the  false Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters, Slander, and Walter Kambulow etc.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/ 

AT TIMES the Internet blogosphere lives up to its billing as the new frontier of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, religious and political discourse. But too often the blogs mainly still turn into an open sewer of rumors, lies, libels and adolescent  sins. WellI can tell the truth at least.. so we also  all can see the other side.   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
Walter Kambulow  knows firsthand how crooked religious corporations were, including the FGBMFI, which did not disclose to it’s donators how all of the money was next being used too. A portion sent to the us   headquarters AND FOR WHAT?. Most churches do not detail THEIR expenditures it seems these days, no full accountability and OR FULL transparency, EVEN like the professing Christian Stephen Harper and his government now as well.
WALTER HAD WANTED ENFORCED PASTORAL ACCOUNTIABLITY..  .
Walter wants the clearly bad pastors fired, punished for their lies, slander 
Those who sin rebuke before all and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke as well.
To get back at the local, Florida evangelical pastors    for their falsely counseling his wife Sandy behind his back and without his knowledge, permission, Walter Kambulow, of Burlinton Ontario, now in the last decade  had started a major holy religious war against the BAD  evangelical preachers in Canada, and the US, in writing on the net, and he finally  next got  sued for 50 million dollars in the Ontario Queen’s courts by some one claiming to be from the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church..  which was not really the truth.. no one NOW there had wanted to admit who really had authorized the suit or who was behind it , so the church lawsuit next got no where..
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Mind you these too often bad Pentecostal pastors even  Catholic priests,  or the Baptist pastors have really not been any better.
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and what about the bad Pentecostal pastors, they too do not repent.There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians or anyone for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net. So I do not.
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It is a clear fact  that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc.,  wrongfully seem to love to bash,  hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, and the Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that, to fill that empty, God shaped vacuum  that they do feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians  do so as well.. they are certainly all not being led by person of the Holy Spirit to do any of this.. but yes clearly by self and the devil too.,, and you can tell all that now by their own lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians.. simple too.
 
Yes, the  person being taken to court for his writings, expressing his feelings, rigth of free speech,  was, is firstly my own twin Brother Walter..
It appears that a pastor in Canada about 2 years ago had talked to Walter’s wife Sandy behind his back, without Walter’s rightful approval and knowledge, and ever since Walter was really rightfully  upset over this, and he next escalated the  wars against the bad pastors, in Canada and in the US.
And it is not all just about money, Church, pastoral thefts, misappropriation of funds is it? It is the perverse pastoral managerial styles of the churches, and their false disclosures, lack of accountability too, but much more, it is their intereference into one’s home, personal marriages to enlarge the relgious empires at any costs it seens.  
Walter was the person who had introduced me to Pentecostalism and even to the great Katherine Khulman, Benny Hynn too, and Walter went to many of Benny Hinn’s services too, and he had asked me to go too
 
Here also is what I know in Canada for sure ; most Catholic and evangelical Pastors tend to think they are very special, unaccountable to anyone but God and FALSELY ARE very arrogant too. Most pastors do not even bother to acknowledge  even as of this week letters, email sent to them as well AND I  find that very surprising when the News media personnel, editors and  reporters, Ministers, MPs do often write back to me.. but not the  supposedly Christian  Evangelcial, Pentecostal pastors, and I rarely get a letter from them  unless it is clearly a condemnation of something bad that I  had posted about them on the net, such as them being drunks, alcoholics. but I got a few of those too.
I admit I have also  been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked also now too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are well, the Salvation Army as well as the other professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too and why.
In reality too many people unsupervised, left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully ofteneven arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family or Church are still a reality too.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html
I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too.. But I know from many years of Canadian experiences that 70 percent of Christian pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..
and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..
Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches are not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
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Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….
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You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.

I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate not just all of the civil, public servants, politicians, in reality but also all of the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for alcoholism, drug usage,  possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it all firstly too.  Bad Ministers in the church or bad ministers in the goivernment are both uanccepteble and both should be fired too.

Hospitality tab at Passport Canada costs taxpayers $16,800: document   OTTAWA – Senior cabinet minister Peter MacKay approved a $16,800 hospitality bill for a group of civil servants in an apparent bending of government rules, a newly disclosed document shows
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected representatives too.
It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html  , https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
 
 
“Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ” http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf  and Sandy Kambulow herself is no  godly person as well as I also do know firsthand too.. and  none of these AIRPORT people here are really saints now as well..
“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf
Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.
  
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me..Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.
I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, and in Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?
Why?? most people are bad sheep who follow the leaders, or Ostriches when it comes to negative truths..
“It’s also to be noted that that Superior Court of Ontario heading of the Justice Campbell’s ruling concerning TACF et Al v. Kambulow stated it was a “commercial court” establishing the fact that Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a commerce suing Walter Kambulow as a commerce and it is not a church of Jesus Christ!”
 
When I go public I often get threats of a lawsuit, and not just the politicians sending the police to my door, but I do not back off, and I always seem to tell them to go ahead.. the lawsuit will give the matter more publicity too.. and they back off. Snakes seem to  hate the light and exposure.

Can anyone sue for defamation of character/libel/slander for PERSONAL statements made even on the Internet? But if it’s true there is no CASE for defamation or slander. And if it is NOT true they still will have to show specific, related proof of actual damages, not just some supposed potential damages. Furthermore the law still requires that they do reply to all allegations in the manner they had firstly have received them immediately too, within a reasonable period of time, and if they have not bothered to deny, reply to, to object any of the charges of wrong doings, allegations initially, after a reasonable period of time, a maximum of 6 months they not longer can do so, for now it is accepted they are true. Do ALL stop being sue crazy or nicky picky too.

“Thank you for your comment. I will agree with you that it is important to live our lives as God desires for us too. One important point is simply that without reading God’s Word on a regular basis we cannot know exactly how to live.I do have on question for you: Where did you get the stat “70 percent of evangelical pastors are unChristian”? Just curious about that.”
I would not be so quick to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too.
Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too.
I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.

A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter.

Just recently a pastor lied, on his site he had rewrittten what I had said to make the pastors look good and he made it fasely seem as I had written it.  Who did he lie to, Himself that he is even a godly pastor.

But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open.

I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too.

I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too.

None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?

Now since you do really know your Bible you know that the Bible already says says that adultery is God’s punishment to those at whom he is upset at.. and I can think of many bad things that pastors do that upset God… this adultery is all so common and where have you been?

I was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.

I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.

When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not.

I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too

I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.

and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

From: Bentley_Chris-MPP-CO Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:01 AM To: Paul Kambulow Cc: attorneygeneral@ontario.ca Subject: RE: about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. Good morning: Thank you for taking the time to contact Chris Bentley’s Constituency Office. I will bring your email to Mr. Bentley’s attention. Since your concerns are a matter for the Attorney General.  I have taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the Ministry of the Attorney General to be responded to.  If you would like to follow up with Mr. Bentley’s Toronto office directly please do not hesitate to contact (416) 326-2220 or 1-800-518-7901 attorneygeneral@ontario.ca. Thank you again,

Ashley Conyngham Constituency Assistant Chris Bentley, MPP London West 8-11 Base Line Road East London, Ontario N6C 5Z8 Tel: (519) 657-3120 Fax: (519) 657-0368 Mobile: (519) 281-2153

Paul Kambulow

Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can be truly honest, tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too?

At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders.”Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeat- edly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Charac- terizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord. (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! “

BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS

All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

I corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

(Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

(Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to..

I was visiting in Montreal when God spoke to me and said a NW  Calgary Evangelical ALLIANCE Church Pastor was bad mouthing me. I admit I got upset and said Lord why right did he have to do that? God replied that the did not share this truth to upset me but rather for me to give God permission to deal with it. Within a few days of my return to Calgary I read next in the local newspaper that one of the Sunday school teacher under the same pastor had been arrested for sexual molestation of the boys in his Sunday School class. The same Pastor now was too busy worried about his own reputation,  to be bad mouthing me now too.
 
LET ME TELL YOU FIRSTLY THAT STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP YOU CAN HAVE DAILY IS NOT AT ALL WITH YOUR LOCAL CHURCH, DENOMINATION BUT RATHER WITH GOD, JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, REPENTANCE….. AND HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW? 
Heavenly Father I pray that you will help all, all of the persons involved to look up to you, to trust in you alone firstly to supply all of their needs, to help them and not in any person wrongfully as well. Supply the poor people what they need through the persons  of your choice, not ours and through your means not ours..
(James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
PSALM 13: 5  But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.  6  I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
 
(Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
  
(1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV)    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6  Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. 14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
The also bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot.
In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..
“They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this TACF group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..
Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”
and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..” https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/  http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/#comment-29644
Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are wall mounted crucifix and their public prayers. Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe… 
 
and look I  am not aksing for any support, money, donations,  membership..  and Jesus himelf, the way, the truth and the life,  is the only person I do  want you to follow.

It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

ALSO see

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/ontario-judge-orders-website-to-reveal-identity/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/ http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/intro/ http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/i-can-say/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/am-i-therefore-become-your-enemy/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/ https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-collection-of-christian-literature/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

Do visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/slow-to-learn/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
So far nothing has caused me to change my views on the subject.
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May 29, 2008

Can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

How can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

I do not even know what you even believe in, never mind if you also do even practice it.. For it is not how much of the Bible you or I  know that counts, but how much you  and I practice it.

 But the first Question I have to you was Todd called specially by God to be a PASTOR, SHEPHERD  TO HIS PEOPLE? or not? I specially do know that God had talked to me and he had asked me to be his pastor for a start! It was not my choice too.

Did you ask God about this?  and what was his reply? After all God still does undeniably speaks to his true people today still.. and you can hear God talking to you.

Who am I to take God’s place in correcting his servant unless God had specially asked me to do so? Did he ask you to do so? Did you talk to Todd face to face next? I have asked many pastors to repent face to face when God told me to do so.

I had attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..

But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..

and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

It was very interesting fact that the clearly bad pastors of TACF Toronto Airport Church fellowship had resorted to a commercial lawsuit over rather resorting to pray in dealing with one of their critics,

Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now  are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.

It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
It is also absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.

Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”  and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize AND PRACTICE this still too

Tim said ” From what I’ve seen and heard from Todd Bentley (I spent 4 days at the revival), he preaches, and teaches Jesus Christ, and him crucified. He preaches repentance and turning to God with all your heart. People get healed and set free from the demonic in his meetings. You say Todd has a past. You say Todd has non biblical teachings. Well, I have news for you, so do you. None of you, none of us have the perfect speech, preaching, teaching, without any error. Do you honestly believe that all of your own teachings are without ANY error. The cardinal doctrines are what we need to focus on. Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. Salvation through Christ alone, and sanctification by the Spirit of God.”

and I said in reply I know undeniably that the Pentecostal pastors had slandered, abused my own twin brother too… and even the Baptist , Brethren, Pentecostal pastors had lied about me, slandered me too often too.
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  Reponses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/our-god-speaks-too/

The Tithe

Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are wall mounted crucifix and their public prayers.

Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe…  https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/the-not-so-secret/

The Catholic church collects tithes, but so do many evangelical churches, and some cults too.. even though tithes is applicable only in the Old Testament and to the Jewish persons only too.  The Tithe in the new Testament is voluntary, non compulsive..  but the problem also today still is that many of the people who collect the tithe, violate often the OT laws on tithing and do  steal from the tithe as well.. the OT had specified 1/7 of the tithe had to be given to the poor.. something the present  tithe collectors do not mention, do not preach nor practise wrongfully in reality..

I have been a church secretary now in my life as well and here I had thus also first  learned that not everyone in the church is honest, not just about financial matters now too. 

 
While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
 

 

(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

I admit I have been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are , as well as the professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.

I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too.. But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..  and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

Being a professional Engineer I was used to the Organization Chart. So when I had joined the local Fellowship Baptist Church I asked the pastor 3 simple, basic  questions..
 
1: Pastor can you defend your role, position from the Bible..
The response was yes, the Bible says the pastor is a captain of the ship… oops that was a Scofield note.. not the Bible itself.. many people seem to believe Scofield over the Bible
 
2: Next I asked him, the pastor if there was such as an an empowering to be able to live a Christian Life, and he responded no! Unbelievable, he has been in the dark ages so long too!
 
3: Pastor do you know for sure God called you into the Ministry? Answer no!!
 
Sadly I interviewed next many Canadian pastors in my life, and most were not any better too. 

Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches not not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.

Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.

Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….  

You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.

Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected representatives too. You do not need a useless, costly organization even to do this firstly.

It seems these days that even the Citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.

and to all of those evangelical  distorters too, cheap skates, unloving persons, incompassionate ones.. as even per the Book of Acts the Church of Jesus Christ while it did not enforce the tithe, it did set up deacons, collection of money  weekly to help the local poor people even in the local church.. something all pastors, evangelists  should be  enforcing now still  today too… not rather stealing the money for themselves, falsely living high on the hog..

 Just like  for soical aid benfefitst the  Old Testament Levites, and the poor persons who could enjoy  the benefits of the tithes they do  not own  or could not own any land, or a house. The Lord God  stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to a tithe too. 

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 2 5 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
 
 (1 Cor 10:24 KJV)  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth.
 
and that means caring about their physical well being now as well. 
 (Isa 58:6 KJV)  Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7  Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?(Dan 4:27 KJV)  Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.(Mat 10:42 KJV)  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Mat 25:37 KJV)  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
 
No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
 
 
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/false/

NOW AS TO THE SUPPOSED JUSTIFICATIONS FOR TITHING TODAY OR THE OPPOSITION TO IT TOO…  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html
 
>>your false assertion of “70 percent of pastors in ALL denominations
 
One calling me a liar indicates firstly that this  PASTOR himself  has a  serious personal problems.. he now should get his  needed professional help first.
 
I do not debate the truth.. or his  ignorance..  nor do I debate with fools.. simply ask most people and they will say the pastors, evangelist  these days are mostly bad!
 
NEXT THESE FALSE PERSONAL ATTACKS  OF ME ARE MADE BY REALLY BAD PEOPLE    IN DENIAL  WHO CANNOT FACE NEGATIVE REALTIES AND TRUTHS..
 
and they should get a real life with Jesus first too… instead of repenting the still  foolish persons try to deny their sins.
 
Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, they seem to do the same things too.
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/
  
(Neh 4:7 KJV)  But it came to pass, that when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth, 8 And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it. 9  Nevertheless we made our prayer unto our God, and set a watch against them day and night, because of them.
 
It is still interesting reality that when the truth is preached, proclaimed the devil will always try to challenge it next, by sending someone to dispute it, stop the work of God. We see plenty examples of the devil’s followers doing this also in the Bible in the book of Nehemiah as well. yes if the devil cannot stop you himself, discourage , detour  you with his evil spirits, he will use one of his demon possessed earthly  followers in human form, some backslider even,  next to do it, even the wolves in sheep clothing too. To whom we give no attention not even for one minute.
  
(Mat 6:1 KJV)  Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 16:6 KJV)  Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
 
(Mat 18:10 KJV)  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 24:4 KJV)  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
 
(Mark 4:24 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
 
(Mark 13:9 KJV)  But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
 
(Mark 13:23 KJV)  But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
 
(Mark 13:33 KJV)  Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
 
(Luke 11:35 KJV)  Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
 
(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Luke 21:8 KJV)   Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
 
(Luke 21:34 KJV)  And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
 
(Acts 20:28 KJV)  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
 
(Rom 11:21 KJV)  For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
 
(1 Cor 3:10 KJV)  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
 
(1 Cor 8:9 KJV)  But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
 
(1 Cor 10:12 KJV)  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
 
(Gal 5:15 KJV)  But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
(Col 4:17 KJV)   Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.
 
(1 Tim 1:4 KJV)  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
 
(1 Tim 4:1 KJV)  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
 
(1 Tim 4:16 KJV)  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
 
(Titus 1:14 KJV)  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
 
(Heb 2:1 KJV)  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
 
(Heb 3:12 KJV)  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
 
(2 Pet 1:19 KJV)  We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
  
 
(2 Cor 4:5 KJV)  For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
(2 Cor 4:8 KJV)  We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
 
(2 Cor 4:9 KJV)  Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
 
(2 Cor 4:10 KJV)  Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
 
(2 Cor 4:11 KJV)  For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
 
(2 Cor 5:1 KJV)  For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
 
(2 Cor 5:2 KJV)  For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
 
(2 Cor 5:3 KJV)  If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
 
(2 Cor 5:4 KJV)  For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
 
(2 Cor 5:5 KJV)  Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
 
(2 Cor 5:6 KJV)  Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
 
(2 Cor 5:7 KJV)  (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
 
(2 Cor 5:8 KJV)  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 5:9 KJV)  Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
 
(2 Cor 5:10 KJV)  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
 
(2 Cor 5:11 KJV)  Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
   
 
(Rom 4:8 KJV)  Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
 
(Rom 9:28 KJV)  For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
 
(Rom 12:11 KJV)  Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;
 
(Rom 12:19 KJV)  Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
 
(Rom 13:14 KJV)  But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
 
(Rom 14:8 KJV)  For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
 
(Rom 14:11 KJV)  For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
 
(Rom 15:30 KJV)  Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;
 
(1 Cor 1:3 KJV)  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
(1 Cor 1:31 KJV)  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
 
(1 Cor 2:8 KJV)  Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
 
(1 Cor 2:16 KJV)  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
 
(1 Cor 3:5 KJV)  Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
 
(1 Cor 3:20 KJV)  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
 
(1 Cor 4:4 KJV)  For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
(1 Cor 11:32 KJV)  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
 
(1 Cor 12:3 KJV)  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
 
(1 Cor 14:37 KJV)  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
 
(1 Cor 15:47 KJV)  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
 
(1 Cor 15:58 KJV)  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
 
(2 Cor 6:18 KJV)  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
 
(2 Cor 8:5 KJV)  And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.
 
(2 Cor 8:21 KJV)  Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.
 
(2 Cor 10:17 KJV)  But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
 
(2 Cor 10:18 KJV)  For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.
 
(Gal 5:10 KJV)  I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.
 
(Gal 6:17 KJV)  From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
 
(Eph 4:1 KJV)  I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
 
(Eph 4:17 KJV)  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
 
(Eph 5:8 KJV)  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
 
(Eph 5:10 KJV)  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 5:17 KJV)  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
 
(Eph 5:19 KJV)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
 
(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 6:1 KJV)  Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
 
(Eph 6:4 KJV)  And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
 
(Eph 6:7 KJV)  With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
 
(Eph 6:8 KJV)  Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
 
(Eph 6:10 KJV)  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
 
(Phil 3:1 KJV)  Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
 
(Phil 3:20 KJV)  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
 
(Phil 4:1 KJV)  Therefore, my brethren, dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.
 
(Phil 4:4 KJV)  Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.
 
(Phil 4:5 KJV)  Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
 
(Col 1:10 KJV)  That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
 
(Col 2:6 KJV)  As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
 
(Col 3:16 KJV)  Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
 
(Col 3:17 KJV)  And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
 
(Col 3:23 KJV)  And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
 
(Col 3:24 KJV)  Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
 
(1 Th 4:2 KJV)  For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
 
(1 Th 4:6 KJV)  That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
 
(1 Th 5:2 KJV)  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
 
(2 Th 1:7 KJV)  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
 
(2 Th 1:9 KJV)  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
 
(2 Th 2:8 KJV)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
 
(2 Th 2:13 KJV)  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
 
(2 Th 3:3 KJV)  But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
 
(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
 
(2 Tim 2:19 KJV)  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
 
(2 Tim 2:22 KJV)  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
 
(2 Tim 2:24 KJV)  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
 
(2 Tim 4:14 KJV)  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
 
(2 Tim 4:17 KJV)  Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
 
(2 Tim 4:18 KJV)  And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
(Rev 14:13 KJV)  And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
 
(Rev 19:1 KJV)  And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
 
(Rev 19:6 KJV)  And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
 
(Rev 21:22 KJV)  And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
 
(Rev 22:5 KJV)  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.  

May 28, 2008

BAD cops in BC

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over. 
 

No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

Since Roberts Dziekanski tasering at Vancouver International Airport, light has been recently spilled on how the police conduct internal investigations in BC. When an inquiry against a police officer is called the investigation is conducted by officers from the same department. Naturally this creates a bias in our current police internal investigation system which was set up to maintain the people’s confidence in our police services. B.C is also the only province to have this system; Quebec, Manitoba, Ontario, and Saskatchewan all have independent civilian review boards set up so as to remove any bias in internal police investigations.

For more information and to sign  thepetition requesting an independent review board in BC visit http://www.petitiononline.com/BCPolice/petition.html

Self regulation tends to be immoral masturbation..

I admit I have been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are , as well as the professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too.

   
Anyone still wonder why the Conservatives cannot get out of their minority government slump? Over and over again I have the citizens say the same thing even face to face today.. “the politicians do nothing about the immoral, lying, stealing, no good, abusive Corporations in Canada like Bell Sympatico  because they too often do the same thing. The Conservatives included.” http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/the-canadian-government-courts-and-bell/
   
In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
 
The really bad persons unless they are exposed, punished will likely never change for the good on their own in fact? Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty works best for everyone. Now I have been writing letters to news editors, governments. for that is part of their job now too, and I have helped in exposing the bad guys and the bad corporations for decades too and thus rightfully helping to get rightfully deal with some of the really unacceptable bad guys and so should we all..
  
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  

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It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.

 

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
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Seperation of the State and Church

 (2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

 
Anyone still wonder why the Conservatives cannot get out of their minority government slump? Over and over again I have the citizens say the same thing even face to face today.. “the politicians do nothing about the immoral, lying, stealing, no good, abusive Corporations in Canada like Bell Sympatico  because they too often do the same thing. The Conservatives included.” http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/the-canadian-government-courts-and-bell/
 
”Keep State & Church separate, or they will intertwine and once they are merged, vice enters and corruption begins” ?  “And I agree, 100% of all Churches too  should be investigated as should all politicians (those who govern/lead through laws) even in regards to what, if any, “crossovers” have occurred that are violations of State law.”
 
Some people think that  Separation of Church and State politics, is the main issue that  will help to stop the acts of much too many bad guys in politics and religion.. There are bad guys, bad Ministers now too  continually in or out of relgion in fact.
 
Separation of Church and State politics, and related corruption is just a very small small portion, issue.. Rather all major perversions, corruptions by anyone, politicians, priests, pastors are,  is unacceptable anywhere and at anytime too. For both politicians, Pastors and cops all civil and public servants too are here to help look after the good welfare of the citizens and if they are not doing that JOB NOW properly they all should be helped to become unemployed for sure BY THEIR CORRUPTIONS, ABUSES BEING EXPOSED TO ALL..
 
Religious or not is not the issue.. but the second law of engineering thermodynamics is, energy goes from a higher level to a lower level, it degenerates, meaning even water unrestrained flows downhill, or 30 percent of all people need to be put into a real jail it seems before they will stop their wrong doings and start to do good.. reality.. for self supervision or self regulation does not work, crudely it is just masturbation.. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
 
The really bad persons unless they are exposed, punished will likely never change for the good on their own in fact? Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty works best for everyone. Now I have been writing letters to news editors, governments. for that is part of their job now too, and I have helped in exposing the bad guys and the bad corporations for decades too and thus rightfully helping to get rightfully deal with some of the really unacceptable bad guys and so should we all..
 
Us Senator John McCain  had fallen under condemnation by the news media for accepting the endorsement of Rev John Hagee . Wikipedia describes “John C. Hagee [as] the founder and senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, a non-denominational charismatic church with more than 19,000 active members.”
 
Rev John Hagee clearly states that he is not anti catholic or antigay but he is Anti Semitism and he is working on behalf of Israel and this highlights his belief.. but his dispensational theology support of Israel are not substantiated by the New Testament still. God loves both Jew and Arab as well as all of the Gentiles.
 
The Bad Unacceptable theology – Christian Dispensationalism – Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church. It is not a coincident that too many Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO. Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/  https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/  https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/israel/
 
The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America.  I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too. 
 
For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
 
It seems these days Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised?

 

And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the   

News media
Local MP’s, PM’s of all provinces:
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May 27, 2008

Welcome to Quebec

Filed under: Christianity, NEWS & POLITICS, Uncategorized — Tags: , , — thenonconformer @ 9:22 am

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A full-page Newspaper ad featuring Premier Jean Charest last  week stated “Quebec forms a nation through its history, language, culture and institutions.” It also spoke of the equality of men and women, primacy of the French language and the separation of state and religion as bedrock principles. “The word “peoples” is conspicuously absent from Charest’s definition of the Quebec nation; because for him to include it would force the recognition of the true founding members of these lands, its aboriginal people.”. 
 
In a motion adopted unanimously by all parties in the National Assembly,, the motion affirms Quebecers’ “attachment to our religious and historic heritage represented by the crucifix” in the assembly. But the motion also reaffirms the promotion of the French language, “the history, culture and values of the Quebec nation in a spirit of openness and reciprocity,” borrowing language from the report. The commissioners suggest that judges, crown prosecutors, police officers, prison guards and the speaker and deputy speaker of the assembly refrain from wearing religious signs. But teachers, civil servants, health professionals and all other government employees could continue to wear religious signs. “The crucifix is about 350 years of history in Quebec that none of us are ever going to erase and of a very strong presence, in particular, of the Catholic church, and that’s our reality.” “As the premier of Quebec, my first role is the supreme responsibility to protect and perpetuate the French language,” and it’s culture, Premier Jean Charest. Charest called on the opposition parties to join the government in adopting Bill 63, which proposes an interpretive clause, affirming the equality of women and men in Quebec’s human rights charter.     The Catholics themselves now have not denied that Jesus Christ is Lord God for 2000 years too..
    

 

Quebec’s Jean Charest saw this all clearly, immediately when he received his copy of the Bouchard-Taylor report, and even as it was released last Thursday, the government tabled a motion in the legislature affirming “our attachment to our religious and historic heritage represented by the crucifix.” The Quebec legislature unanimously rejected the proposal to remove the crucifix from the National Assembly, a recommendation of the Bouchard/Taylor commission on reasonable immigrant accommodation. And this   appears rather strange for some people who point out that the Quebec province that has the lowest church attendance, one of our lowest birth rates and the largest number (per capita) of common-law marriages. Yet at heart the majority of Quebecers are still catholic and are not about to be forced to fully give up their Catholic religion, religious beliefs.

 Quebec’s Premier  Jean  Charest he has his Quebec history exactly right and  Catholics are still a big majority of the population. For Quebec society to give up religious and cultural symbols to please any immigrants who seem to take offence much too easily does not make sense nor is it a necessary legal, constitutional right. it is the immigrants who should make bigger accommodation to integrate with the Quebec, host  society, not the host society who should compromise its traditions to suit all of cultural demands  of the various immigrants.

In television interviews Quebec’s Premier  Jean  Charest explained that part of his plan will include requiring immigrants to learn French before arriving in Quebec and that they will have to sign a document adhering to Quebec values. Most Canadians support the primacy of the French language in Quebec. Many Canadians still do reluctantly accept Quebec as a distinct society and the House of Commons still even voted to designate Quebec “a nation”. Not much has changed in reality in Quebec for the last many decades too. The same old life and values seem to continue.

The Quebec National Assembly also adopted a unanimous resolution yesterday affirming that the mastery of French is an essential prerequisite for the naming of judges to the Supreme Court of Canada, and this should include the Prime Minister and the leader  of the official opposition party.  The leaders of all three political parties in Quebec argued that the time had come to insist on the French-language requirement as prerequisite to all future appointments. The knowledge of a language is a knowledge of a culture, of a reality. And those who are called on to interpret this reality and make decisions, which will have a very important impact on our lives, must, through our language, know this reality.” He noted that Quebec has a unique civil-law tradition and that the constitution provides that at least three judges be named from the province. “The message we are sending today to the federal government is that it is not optional when a Supreme Court judge is named,” Quebec premier Charest added, saying that this doesn’t just apply to Quebec, but to the Acadian and francophone societies across Canada.

 How Quebcers differ from the rest of Canada in their views..

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/04/28/what-canadians-think-of-sikhs-jews-christians-muslims/ 

The  April 2009 poll, by Angus Reid Strategies for Maclean’s, surveyed 1,002 randomly selected Canadians on religion. 
    RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE: POLL HIGHLIGHTS

    – 70% of Canadians hold a positive view of Christianity

    – 41% hold a positive view of Hinduism

    – 30% hold a positive view of Sikhism

    – 45% believe mainstream Islam encourages violence

    – 44% Nationally would not want their child to marry a person of Jewish faith. Even fewer would be comfortable with a Sikh or a Muslim. In Quebec, that number rises 

    – 62% Nationally  think laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities. In Quebec, that number rises to 74%.

Across Canada, 72 per cent said they have a “generally favourable opinion” of Christianity. At the other end of the spectrum, Islam scored the lowest favourability rating, just 28 per cent. Sikhism didn’t fare much better at 30 per cent, and Hinduism was rated favourably by 41 per cent. Both Buddhism, at 57 per cent, and Judaism, 53 per cent, were rated favourably by more than half the population

A mere 17 per cent of Quebecers said they have a favourable opinion of Islam, and just 15 per cent view Sikhism favourably. Only 36 per cent of Quebecers said they hold a favourable opinion of Judaism, far below the national average, and in sharp contrast to neighbouring Ontario, where 59 per cent expressed a favourable view of the Jewish religion. “ .., all religions were regarded less positively in Quebec than in Canada as a whole, including Christianity, which 67 per cent of Quebecers view favourably, five points below the Canadian average.  Buddhism’s favourability rating of 57 per cent is four points higher than Judaism, . Buddhism was the only religion, including Christianity, for which more than half of people who said they don’t have a friend of that faith held a favourable opinion of it anyway.

When asked if they thought “the mainstream beliefs” of the major religions “encourage violence or are mostly peaceful,” only 10 per cent said they thought Christianity teaches violence. But fully 45 per cent said they believe Islam does, and a sizable 26 per cent saw Sikhism as encouraging violence. By comparison, just 13 per cent perceived violence in Hindu teachings and 14 per cent in Jewish religion. A tiny four per cent said they think of Buddhism as encouraging violence. By far the highest percentage who viewed Islam as encouraging violence was found in Quebec, 57 per cent. Sikh doctrine is mostly likely to be viewed as violent in the province where about half of Canadian Sikhs live: 30 per cent of British Columbians said they think Sikhism encourages violence.

Angus Reid also took that debate national, asking how far governments should go to accommodate minorities. A strong majority of 62 per cent agree with the statement, “Laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities.” A minority, 29 per cent, agreed with the alternative statement, “On some occasions, it makes sense to modify specific laws and norms to accommodate minorities.” Another nine per cent weren’t sure. In Quebec, 74 per cent were against changing laws or norms, the highest negative response rate on the accommodation question in the country

The Angus Reid poll   found 51 per cent oppose funding of Christian schools, and the level of opposition soars from 68 per cent to 75 per cent for all other religions. On even hotter-button religious issues, opposition is overwhelming. Only 23 per cent would allow veiled voting, and just three per cent Islamic sharia law—an even lower level of support than the eight per cent who would allow polygamy. There’s substantial sympathy for recognizing religious holidays, 45 per cent, but a solid majority still opposes the idea.

 

Three-quarters of Canadian voters who attend evangelical churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite and Pentecostal) opted for the Conservative Party of Canada. In general Protestants, who nominally make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties.

Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are crucifix and their prayers. Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe, and permitted the Jesuits to return to Quebec.”  These enlightened and generous gestures by the British occupiers were extremely well received by the population. And they achieved their immediate political purpose. The territory formerly known as New France or Canada did not, after the Quebec Act, join in the American Revolution. In other words, the Quebec Act changed the course of North American history, and enabled the emergence of Canada nearly a century later, ending any thoughts of an American takeover following the U.S. Civil War. It was, in effect, the religious freedoms guaranteed to Catholics, along with the restoration of French civil law, that guaranteed the survival of the French language and culture on the northern half of this continent.” And those laws. rights were next also  reflected in the Canada’s BNA Act, which in Article 93 guaranteed the place of Catholic and Protestant schools in Quebec. The status of the English-language minority was also protected in Article 133, which guaranteed both French and English as recognized languages and legislature.” Asymmetrical federalism wasn’t invented with the Health Accord of 2004, it has been with us since 1867, and is central to the  Confederation agreement.   http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=481dcae6-9207-4d96-b3ad-834c40fe7e99   

May 26, 2008

Prosperity

Filed under: Christianity, Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 4:38 pm
The prosperity Gospel, the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers. It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, idolterers persons, who even too often do mainly  tithe to get richer are still not rather  helping  the poor persons,  for they do instead  generally as well despise the poor and needy persons, and yes whiile  they falsely covet to be rich and yes they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, and their behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the religious prosperity seekers, persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers,  are not much good.. while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons  still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth… they mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisitions and they will cast out, sell out their poor  relatives, relationships still too..  but they still will even profess to be good persons now too… and try to by their way into heaven.

(Mat 25:34 KJV)   Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
 
(James 2:1 KJV)  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8  If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9  But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
 
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV)  But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
(Jer 2:20 KJV)  For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.  

(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
 
(Prov 23:5 KJV)  Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven. 
 

 (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

 
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
 
So how is your soul prospering, are you helping, blessing the poor and needy persons or are you really rather poor spiritually yourself, broke?
 

 

 

 

 

Our God speaks too

Filed under: Christianity, Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 4:18 pm
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(John 10:27 KJV)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

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If you claim that you are a real born again Christian and you cannot hear God talking directly to you outside of the Bible now it is likley you do not know him still  at all, are still going to Hell even,, find out why ..
 
Hearing the Voice of God – The Thrilling Mystery of Hearing from God – Divine Guidance Made Easier
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We long to know what to do; God longs for us to know him. Guidance can come in a flash, but getting to know someone – especially when that Someone is infinite – is an adventure that never ends. Whereas we want a five-minute consultation, the Lover of our souls wants for us a lifetime of ever-increasing intimacy, culminating in an eternity of incomprehensibly greater intimacy.
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Let’s see some biblical examples of how easy it is to miss God.

-Jacob went to sleep unaware that he was literally lying over the very gateway of heaven (Genesis 28:11-17).
-Young Samuel could not distinguish the Lord’s voice from that of the man he served every day (1 Samuel 3:4-5).
-Multiplied thousands of people rubbed shoulders with the Son of God. They heard teaching like no one had ever given. They saw miracles that took their breath away. And almost none of them had a clue as to who he was.
-For miles, the resurrected Jesus walked and talked with two of his disciples, and they never realized who was speaking to them. ‘ . . . they were kept from recognizing him.’ The moment they discovered who it was, he vanished (Luke 24:13-31).
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Follow after God alone … God speaks too …
The Word of God  is living and active, it penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., it judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12

My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27 

Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4 (There is no life without hearing words from the mouth of God.)

But we have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear.
  
 http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html   
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I also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one..   Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes  mutual  communication.  The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let  others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance. We still cannot make our on  views, experience now still as God’s rule for everyone else. But many people do. Some people wrongfully do claim that God today can only speak to each one of us personally, to all of us through his written Word the Bible, cause that is all they have experienced maybe? but in fact I am very sure that these very same people God often cannot still even personally reach them firstly even by his Word… you know that is why so many people read the Bible and have different interpretations, doctrines, denominations even cause it is really not God who is talking to them through it… mere man is or self or the devil..  And yet many Bible scholars, pastors who know the Bible are blind to God’s truths and yet they know the Word on the outside.. their real inadequacy is that they really still do not, did not know God on a deep personal level, they have not communicated with Him and thus they are still in the wilderness themselves still. It is one thing to know the Word, but it is another thing to know the Author himself. How well do you know the author, not just his writings?
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The manner of God speaking to us through Scripture has much not to do with what we are we mainly desire to know, or what personally are dealing with at the time but  what he wants to reveals to us. We are always slaves, servants of God who listen to his will, his instructions above all.  But don’t personally read into the Bible as to what is being said rather first listen to Him, God, the Holy Spirit explaining next  the scriptures to you personally.  Allow the Scripture to  “leap off the page” at you,  as receive his divine revelation,  and His Bible passages take on a meaning that you hadn’t noticed maybe even a moment earlier.  There can be a passage of time between the initial reading of logos before it becomes rhema . One might as well read the same Scripture over and over again, and then next one day it “speaks”.  This act of divine speaking, revelation of God through his Word is called “rhema” in the original Greek language of the New Testament. It means the spoken word.  This is opposed to the Greek word “logos”, or the  written word. The Bible itself is also the logos. Jesus is called The Logos  He is also the personification of Scripture.
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Have you now personally limited God as to what he can do firstly in your own  life   by your own church teaching, your own experiences, your own limitations, your lack of faith? for now too many people have. Let me be clear for God to speak to us we first have  to get right with him through Jesus Christ and next also to exercise our own free will, to seek him, allow him to speak to us. We have our own duties and acts, responsibilities to carry our first here too.  We ourselves mainly still do determine if God can, will speak to us firstly. God is not capricious about speaking to us in this, or in any other manner. He does not play favorites, loving one person more than another by speaking to them . Indeed, it says it is God’s good pleasure to give us all that He has .What now also hinders communication with God is often our own attitudes and preconceptions. God’s ways are indeed higher than our ways  but this does not mean that God is inscrutable or unknowable in any real, practical sense .   We must also next act by faith on the Word we have received . Sometimes this acting is nothing more than a slight attitude adjustment, a confession, a willingness. Sometimes it is more dramatic, like asking someone to forgive you of something you did to them years prior. The point is rhema not acted on will next often do you no good. Hearing from God presupposes that you will also next do what He says for you personally  to do. If you are unwilling to do what He says now, next to you will not continue to enjoy His wonderful benefits of communication with you personally as well  Ask him God first to help you do his will, to always carry it out as well..
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You mainly will hear from God  only when you are willing to listen,  when you are focused on His Being, only when the things of the world and your own circumstances have taken rightly the  back seat in priority. Seek God and you will find Him, personal only seek for revelations, truths alone and you may not.
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The Scripture does describes human beings as tripartite in make up, that is, having spirit, soul, and body (1 Thessalonians 5:23). The body is the material part of us that turns to dust when we die. The soul is our mind, will, emotions, and conscience. The reborn spirit is that part of us that communicates and is cognizant of God. These later two are non-material (2 Corinthians 4:18). Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and they will fail at it still too.
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When one reads the Scripture one can be  literally reading partially into the heart of God Himself . Or one can be reading the word and still be blind to the truth cause one has still unrepentant sins in one’s life as King Saul in the Bible found out when he could no longer hear God speaking to him too so he falsely consulted the mediums, witches instead of repenting of his past sins. (1 Sam 16:14 KJV)  But the spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. (Psa 66:18 KJV)  If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
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Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.
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(1 Cor 14:26 KJV)  How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40  Let all things be done decently and in order.
The other Other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.  Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways. There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all  God’s general will. There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular  situation. We have to be open to both ways too. (John 10:27 KJV)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:The WHOLE Church is to also encourage the personal development of gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophecy
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.. 40   Let all things be done decently and in order.
(1 Cor 14:13 KJV)  Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (And no exceptions now too)I was surprised to read it is not just today that some people object to anyone prophesying.
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(Num 11:24 KJV)  And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26  But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27  And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28  And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29  And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

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God speaks often to me says often to me, I will guide and lead you next one step at a time as to what you should do, who to write and who to see as wellIsaiah 40:31, “But those who wait on the LORD Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.”

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 Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.
2 Chronicles 15:15  . . . They sought God eagerly, and he was found by them. . . .
Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
Psalms 119:145 I call with all my heart; answer me, O LORD, and I will obey your decrees.
(John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
 (John 16:14 KJV)  He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. .
(John 16:15 KJV)  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
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The Holy Spirit himself will lead and guide you into all truth firstly, always not mere men..
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HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE FULL BLESSINGS AND HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD GO TOGETHER? YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER
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When-ever they run to the Greek, Hebrew-they want you to believe that they supposedly now are different, and better than you , and they now do know something more, that in reality is not there, and what basically is not there is the Holy Spirit! He the Holy Spirit, has been replaced with the Greek, Hebrew, clearly by human minds, mere men’s teaching.. and you can also notice they also quote more what other men say over what the Holy Spirit says.. they do not even know anything about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit cause they do not have it. Ah this is so truth about the Plymouth Brethren, Dispensationalists, cults, Judaizers. Anyway these persons speak Greek, Hebrew are still clearly not even Holy Sprit filled, not Christians even as we all can know, see by their unspiritual, sinful behaviors and lack of the fruit of the Holy Sprit God is with us and he can personally speak to us all of the time.
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God speaks? This statement can cause a wide range of reactions: even from those who claim they now have a relationship with God, some honestly scoffing and ridicule all those who claim to hear God speak . all those persons who have a continual relationship with God, and they do rightfully say “why haven’t I yet found it?”. There are valid reasons, they need to look into themselves. Some honest people who want such a relationship but haven’t found it yet, are encouraged by stories of those who have developed a relationship with God but also can hear God speak . Many of them wonder how you start to develop and nurture such a relationship with God , not mere men. First, you must trust and believe the fact that God exists and he now is with us all. and all of the time. And God has not abandoned you yet but your unrepentant, unforgiving sins stands in the way, blocks your relationship with God. You need to slow down and obey God not just open your eyes, ears, and mind in to know see, hear, and understand them. You can start by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and personal Savior by asking him into your life, by confessing and renouncing all of your sins, as well as quietly meditating on God’s words, and Praising him, and also by tuning out the noise of self, others, and the devil, the world around you. Once the background noise level gets turned down you will get to know God better . While in this state will may notice that his voice come to you and you know it is not to be your own. These words will start to give you insight into your life, God’s will and plan for you and he can even begin to shed light on issues that have been concerning you. These words are the beginnings of God talking with you. Learn to wait upon God, to relax, be quiet, and reflect on Him. “The best way I can describe how quiet meditation can help you find God is that it is like living in a house for many years. One night you wake up and the house is very quiet. As you lay there, you begin to hear sounds that you never realized were there before. You never heard those sounds because you were always too busy or there was too much other noise.” Just as the sounds you hear in your house seem to come alive when all is still, the words of God will be heard when you learn to quiet your life and to wait, listen for them.
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This is the undeniable reality
God speaks to us through His Word
God speaks through Jesus Christ, his works on our behalf too
 God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit guidance, leading, comfort, helps …
God speaks to us through our conversations with others
God speaks to us through circumstances
God speaks directly to us and others
Walt Kam Blessed Or Cursed?

Thus says the LORD: “Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the LORD. For he shall be like a shrub in the desert, And shall not see when good comes, But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, In a salt land which is not inhabited. “Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, And whose hope is the LORD. For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters, Which spreads out its roots by the river, And will not fear when heat comes; But its leaf will be green, And will not be anxious in the year of drought, Nor will cease from yielding fruit. “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings. Jeremiah 17:5-10

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. Galatians 6:7

God is not fooled by any one. He knows those who trust in Him and those who trust in others. He still searches the heart, tests the mind and gives every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings even in the current time. Whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. God’s word is unchanging:

And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ. But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. Colossians 3:23-25

Men come up with all kinds of ideas that in their mind nullify the truth of the word of God including the “doctrine of dispensation.” Fundamentalists tell us:

“The Bible’s divisions do not neatly divide between books, chapters, or subjective “stages,” so the best method to get the overall picture of God’s program is to study the Bible using its own terms of “covenant” and “dispensation,” letting them mark the divisions.” They also tell us “A dispensation is usually defined as a “period of time” in which God works with and in His people in a particular way, The term “dispensation” is found four times in the Scriptures (1 Cor. 9:17; Eph. 1:10, 3:2; Col. 1:25), and each passage makes it clear that God is dispensing something.”

Fundamentalists also tell us:
Since properly understanding the Bible’s divisions is the key to being sound in doctrine and making sense of its differences, failure to do so can lead to dangerous heresies and spiritual chaos. When a preacher or any other believer fails to rightly divide the Bible and discern its differences, he will nearly always end up wresting it. This is one reason there are so many “Christian” cults today. Instead of rightly dividing the Bible, they ignore some or all of its divisions and produce a religious system that is littered with heresies, some of them deadly. When a person takes a precept or doctrine peculiar to one dispensation and forces it to apply doctrinally to another, he ends up with a heresy every time. He may quote several Bible verses to “prove” his doctrine, but it is still a lie once it is divorced from its corresponding dispensation.

Fundamentalists also tell us:
The Church Age: from Pentecost (33AD) to the Rapture.
1. The pre-canon period: temporary spiritual gifts were given to fill in until the canon was complete, 3296AD.
2. The post-canon period: from 96AD to the Rapture. Permanent gifts are still given: Pastor-Teacher, evangelism, administration, etc.
3. Characteristics.
1. Intercalation: an insertion into the Age of Israel, a parenthesis.
2. It was not revealed in the Old Testament. It is the mystery of Rom.16:25; Eph.3:16; Col.1:25,26.
3. It is the period of the completion of the canon, the mind of Christ.
4. It is the period of the universal priesthood after Melchizedek.
5. We are not under the Law.
6. Believers have the universal indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

However the word of God doesn’t tell us that temporary spiritual gifts were given to fill in until the canon was complete, 3296AD or that The post-canon period: from 96AD to the Rapture. Permanent gifts are still given: Pastor-Teacher, evangelism, administration, etc. Rather it tells us:

And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:28

In other words for the church of Jesus Christ as long as the church exist on earth, God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

In reality the term “dispensation” is a play on words that doesn’t mean necessarily what men say it does and it depends heavily on certain assumed meanings in the King James Version of the bible. While the Amplified Bible which “Dispensationalists” don’t accept tells us a total different story:

1 Cor 9:17 For if I do this work of my own free will, then I have my pay (my reward); but if it is not of my own will, but is done reluctantly {and} under compulsion, I am [still] entrusted with a [sacred] trusteeship {and} commission.

Eph 1:10 [He planned] for the maturity of the times {and} the climax of the ages to unify all things {and} head them up {and} consummate them in Christ, [both] things in heaven and things on the earth.

Eph 3:2 Assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace (His unmerited favor) that was entrusted to me [to dispense to you] for your benefit,

Col 1:25 In it I became a minister in accordance with the divine stewardship which was entrusted to me for you [as its object and for your benefit], to make the Word of God fully known [among you]–

In other words it’s foolish to study the bible by any method set by man instead of the inspiration and guide of the Holy Spirit who is given to be our helper, our guide, our teacher, the Spirit of truth and everything that we need! It’s ironic and sad that these so called Bible Believing church are completely off the wall even though they use the word of God as their basis and state:

“The word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of the soul and the spirit, of the joints and marrow and is a critic of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)

“All scripture is God Breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God might be mature, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Tim. 3:16-17)

“Study to show yourself approved unto God a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15)

Man’s interpretation of the bible is just that man’s interpretation. The truth of the matter is that it’s fundamentalists who espouse dangerous heresies and create spiritual chaos by their doctrine of demons. And since most evangelical Christians derive their roots from fundamentalists they are also off the wall for God’s word is unchanging:

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-20

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 2 Timothy 3:1-5

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1

Demonized ones and Demons

Demonized ones, who are not saved and cannot demonstrate the gifts of the Spirit including tongues, talk about the fruits of the Spirit which in reality they don’t have because they are only critics and carnal ones and not true believers!

Demonized ones and Demons despise the gifts of the Holy Spirit and cause men to despise them. Why? Because the operation of these supernatural gifts of power counter the work of demons. Their presence and wiles are exposed by the discerning of spirits and the word of knowledge. Their evil is undone by the word of wisdom, faith, gifts of healing and miracles.

Their plans bring harm are thwarted by a (timely word of prophecy or by tongues with interpretation. No wonder demons so strongly oppose these gifts!

These nine gifts were also given to the church for its edification. Satan is the enemy of the church and sets himself against that which is designed to build up the Body of Christ. He makes strong thrusts at the gifts, and especially at tongues which has a special purpose in the edification of the individual believer. (See I Cor. 14:4)

If the person experiencing deliverance has not been baptized in the Holy Spirit he should be encouraged to receive this baptism and to desire the spiritual gifts. We have seen many persons receive the baptism in the Holy Spirit as the climax of a ministry of deliverance. The empowering of the Holy Spirit is important in retaining one’s deliverance.

Those who already have the baptism in the Holy Spirit should be encouraged to “covet earnestly the best gifts” (I Cor. 12:31), and the best gift is the one that will minister to the needs of others in any given situation. It is quite common that hindrances to the gifts are removed through deliverance. There are specialist demons who seek to block the operation of spiritual gifts. After deliverance the house should be filled with the power of the Holy Spirit.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/92986393/Pigs-In-Parlor-Frank-Hammond

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Preparation for God and His Worship

Filed under: Christianity, Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 3:49 pm

“God is calling us to come to him

1. First, you should prepare to meet God in worship we prepare for worship by drawing near to God in our hearts even at home, at work, in our surroundings, hourly, daily and not just a few hours on Sunday!

When God said five times, “You did not return to me,” he did not mean that they should have come more often to a physical place of worship. The returning was not a physical movement. Returning to God was a movement of the heart, not just  a movement of the body. There is a heart preparation to be done in order to meet God.

Jesus said, “This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me” (Matt. 15:8). When this is the case the preparation needed is a movement of the heart from far to near, and yet it is a movement that is not measured in inches or miles.

— It is measured with the tape of attention — you may not even be thinking of God Saturday night or Sunday morning. So your heart is far from him measured by attention.

— Or it may be measured by the tape of focus — you may have some attention on God but it is broken up by other things and there is no focused attention that gets God clearly in view and makes him the primary object of attention.

— It is measured by the tape of desire — you may feel little desire for God but be very much caught up in a greater desire for sports or finances or a trip to the lake, while the desire and the longing for God is weak by comparison.

— Or it can be measured by the tape of trust and hope — your trust in God may be weak and your hope faint and wavering.

— Or it may be measured by the tape of delight or joy in God — you may feel much more pleasure Saturday night in a late movie than in meeting God in the morning.

Everyone of us is far from where we want to be on one of these measuring tapes every week.

Our primary goal is to meet God , and to commune with him and to hear him and to speak to him and to savor him and this is very hard to do and that it takes teaching an and preparation of heart, a conscious priority — a sustained, God centered focus on dealing with God without mere human distraction. 

2. The second preparation for God and his  worship is that we renounce all known sin in our lives before coming to worship God.

The wealthy people of Israel tried to make love with their true husband while keeping a mistress on the side. They tried to worship God while concealing sin in their lives. They also oppressed the poor, and crushed the needy, while trying to live in wealth and luxury.

Worship will inevitably become a weak, empty form and ritual if we try to keep on with it while our hearts are running after other gods. God will gladly take the dirtiest sinner into his arms on Sunday morning who comes with a broken and contrite heart intent on forsaking all known sin and trusting in Jesus for cleansing. But God will not be mocked by those who make like they love him and willfully break his law during the week. So the second act of preparation is to confess and renounce all known sin and come to the  worship of God cleansed by the blood of Jesus and resting in his forgiveness and hope.

3. The third preparation for the worship of God is that we take note of how God has been trying to get our attention.

Five times in Amos 4 God says that he had done specific things in the lives of his people to turn them back to himself. And five times it says, “Yet you did not return to me.” Each of these things God had done to get their attention could be explained as natural events with no divine cause. But God holds Israel accountable to listen and respond. That’s the meaning of “Yet you did not return to me.”

In not hearing the voice of God, or seeing the hand of God, Israel failed to prepare to meet him. That is what we must not do. We must wake up and stop looking at our lives like secular, scientific,  naturalists. God is doing things in your life which are gracious providential messages to return to him and trust him. Take note of what he God has been saying to us in our lives to draw us to himself.

4. Finally, worship starts by also going to a church where Christ’s truth is honored and fellowshipping also during the week with the Body of Christ, in prayer as well.

The Israelites were clearly a religious people. They came to Bethel and came gladly. But they had lost touch with the God of truth and they were not worshiping in truth. There were some left over forms like tithing and thank-offerings and sacrifices. But the very center and heart of worship was missing — the true God.

“So I close with these suggestions for how we might prepare ourselves and others to meet effectively our God even in the Church services:

1. Set aside some time during the week and pray for all of the Church services, and especially Saturday night begin the orientation onto worship. Turn off the television and set your mind on things that above with the word of God and a time of prayer. Pray that God will be manifest in the services, that men will be convicted of sins and judgement and will thus repent.

2. Saturday night also do Go to bed early enough so that you are fresh and emotionally alive Sunday morning. The price of late night movies or parties on Saturday will be powerless worship Sunday morning.

3. Get up in time Sunday so that you do not have to rush to get to church, but have a little time to be alone with God and ask his blessing on you and your family and on the church. I can almost promise you that you depth of your communion with God in the service will be directly proportionate to the way you have sought the Lord for his blessing Saturday night and Sunday morning. This will take some discipline and some planning. But you will probably never turn back once you taste the fruit.

4. When you come into the sanctuary begin to seek the Lord. That means that by and large there will be a holy hush across the sanctuary. But it will be a very different kind of stillness than the awkward silence before a Sunday School class where you want everyone to mill around and talk and nobody is. There is a world of difference. And the difference will be made and felt by whether hundreds of you really going hard after God, or just politely waiting for the show to begin. You will make the difference in those minutes as to whether a visitor senses cool distance or the reality of God. The very point of those moments of going hard after of God is that this room will be filled with the power of God. The goal of those moments is not that people will be impressed with us — either our piety or our friendliness — but that they will fall on their face and say, “God is in this place.” And that will only happen people are taken up with God.

If you want your friendship to go deep with someone, I invite you to make an experiment. As you enter the sanctuary talking, and the prelude begins, try saying this: “Let’s finish this discussion after the service. I think John needs our prayers. Let’s do battle for him.” My wager is; that camaraderie in the warfare of prayer will take your friendship deeper than another five minutes of conversation.

5. If you have to come late –and we all do from time to time — minister to those who have to sit in the commons and minister to those worshipping in the sanctuary with a spirit of worship and prayer.

6. Finally, before every act of worship, whether a hymn or a reading or a prayer or an anthem or a moment of silence or a sermon, say to Lord, “Lord, I come. I come to loved worship, praise and to sing to you. I come to pray to you. I come to listen to your word. I come to enjoy your presence.” Don’t drift through the service as though the action is on the platform. Become the main player Listens and  also do pray for the others during the services, pray that they will listen, repent as well.

The greatest action in worship is when a heart that is far from the Lord draws near to the Lord, and focuses on him and desires him and trusts him and enjoys him. “

>>By the way I dont know why should you put up topics of endtimes cause it brings fear and intimidation to people..

I agree .. the subject made Daniel even sick.. (Dan 8:27 KJV)  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

plus look at this the Book of Daniel where Danile himself was told to seal up the words of the prohecy.. (Dan 12:4 KJV)  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:

for we are all to look forward to the return of Jesus Christ. not the return of the anti christ

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/preparation-for-god-and-his-worship/

Portions taken from ref. http://www.indiagospel.net/word_alive/prayer.html ref. http://web1.duc.auburn.edu/student_info/ccc/music/45.html  ref. http://www.calvarychapel.com/manitowoc/Library/Guglielmo-Joe/Studies/SM/19PSA/SM1102.HTM   ref. http://www.latter-rain.org/his_manifest_presence.htm   

http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html 

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