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November 26, 2010

Some people are realy lucky.. they experience Jesus

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 1:33 am

Some people are realy lucky.. they experience Jesus, His love, his forgiveness as well. Sadly too many do not.
 

When you are young, mostly ignorant of what life is realy like.. you think you are going to live forever, and life is a bright, shining road ahead of you.. but as real life hits you, you hopefully do eventually  get to know the truth, that this road is the road to hell, death, pain, sufferings..
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and some people are realy lucky they do next still  experience God’s love, forgiveness for all of their wrong doings..
 
Sadly life is not what is is often made out to be.. it is not fun, games, romance, adventures in reality.. it in reality  is often pitiful, depressing. obnoxious, pathetic!
 
Why is life so hard.. sin and it’s side effects are  a constant reality
 
 
and that is when some people do see Jesus, He is everything, he is the sole life that counts too. They are the fortunate ones!  

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This is the undeniable reality

  • God speaks to us through His Word
  • God speaks through Jesus Christ, his works on our behalf too
  • God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit guidance, leading, comfort, helps
  • God speaks to us through our conversations with others
  • God speaks to us through circumstances
  • God speaks directly to us and others

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God is with us and he can personally speak to us all of the time. This statement can cause a wide range of reactions: even from those who claim they now have a relationship with God, some honestly scoffing and ridicule all those who claim to hear God speak . all those persons who have a continual relationship with God, and they do rightfully say “why haven’t I yet found it?”. There are valid reasons, they need to look into themselves. Some honest people who want such a relationship but haven’t found it yet, are encouraged by stories of those who have developed a relationship with God but also can hear God speak . Many of them wonder how you start to develop and nurture such a relationship with God , not mere men. First, you must trust and believe the fact that God exists and he now is with us all. and all of the time. And God has not abandoned you yet but your unrepentant, unforgiving sins stands in the way, blocks your relationship with God. You need to slow down and obey God not just open your eyes, ears, and mind in to know see, hear, and understand them. You can start by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and personal Savior by asking him into your life, by confessing and renouncing all of your sins, as well as quietly meditating on God’s words, and Praising him, and also by tuning out the noise of self, others, and the devil, the world around you. Once the background noise level gets turned down you will get to know God better . While in this state will may notice that his voice come to you and you know it is not to be your own. These words will start to give you insight into your life, God’s will and plan for you and he can even begin to shed light on issues that have been concerning you. These words are the beginnings of God talking with you. Learn to wait upon God, to relax, be quiet, and reflect on Him.

“The best way I can describe how quiet meditation can help you find God is that it is like living in a house for many years.  One night you wake up and the house is very quiet.  As you lay there, you begin to hear sounds that you never realized were there before.  You never heard those sounds because you were always too busy or there was too much other noise.” Just as the sounds you hear in your house seem to come alive when all is still, the words  of God will be heard when you learn to quiet your life and to wait,  listen for them.
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Face it also that the dysfunctional, sinfull Christian even  families are the too often the norm since the days of Adam and Eve and unrepentant sin tends to be too often the cause of it still.
 Although  the ongoing  data show divorce strikes born-again Christians at about the same rate as those who don’t profess a born-again experience while they may use supposedly different reasons for the divorce, the end desire is the same.. greed, lusts. monetary aspects.

It always amazed me the so-called perfect divorcing evangelical wife even, actually an economic and physical prostitute and her perverse lawyers, can so easily see all of the spouses’ sins still cannot even see their own, and why was that? The devil still controls what they do and can see.
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

(Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
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I too now have often been rightfully upset with family members who are nice to me only during the holidays such as Easter, Christmas, new years day, thanks giving, birthday and do treat you like refuse the rest of the time.  Infighting in families is common too. There are many factors that contribute to sibling rivalry:
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I have often been rightfully upset with, likley the same persons, the people  who go to church on holidays or Sunday morning only and do clearly forget about God the rest of the time, they are only still fooling themselves as to who they realy are.. unrepentant sinners.
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/young-offenders/
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As I also daily do read the Bible, it often surprises me how many so called Christians do even hold theological views that are in direct conflict of the Bible, that are unproved  in the Bible even in regard to so many topics now too.. All cause they too occasionally even  rather do prefer to listen to the too often out of context, distorted verses out of the Bible quoted by the bad preachers instead of reading the Bible themselves.  
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/surprise-surprise/
 
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In reality even these days many  Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what  the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal  by God, so they too are ignorant,  they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play today in Christ’s Church. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they  thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too. 
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there is still no pit that Jesus cannot lift you out of if you let him.. none at all..
 
(Mark 4:40 KJV)  And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
 
see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/dealing-effectively-with-lifes-problems/
 
 
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-power-in-the-name-of-jesus/
 
 
http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/they-ceased-not-to-teach-and-preach-jesus-christ/
 
 
 

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October 1, 2010

WALKING IN SIN, OR WHAT BRINGS OUT THE DARK SIDE IN US..

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WE ALL DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR DOING BOTH GOOD AND EVIL DWELLING IN US. SO WHICH ONE MOTIVATES, CONTROLS US DAILY?

WALK IN THE SPRIT OF GOD AND YOU WILL NOT WALK IN THE LUST OF THE FLESH.. (Gal 5:16 KJV) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh (Prov 14:12 KJV)  There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.  (John 6:63 KJV)  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

(Mat 21:42 KJV)  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes.

(1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

(Gal 5:19 KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

(Mat 18:3 KJV)  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

(Mark 10:15 KJV)  Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.  4:12    No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13  Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.  14   And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 15   Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 16    And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

(Heb 3:7 KJV)  Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,   8  Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: 9  When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. 10  Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. 11  So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) 12  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

EACH PERSON CAN BE A DR JEKYLL OR A MR HYDE CONCURRENTLY, A GOOD PERSON AT ONE TIME AND A BAD PERSON NEXT TOO IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT PART YOU ALLOW TO DOMINATE, INFLUENCE, CONTROL YOU. We can walk humbly or walk in a false pride… AND THE RESULTS WILL DIFFER, VARY SIGNIFICANTLY TOO.

(Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

(Isa 66:1 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. 3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. 4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. 5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. 6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompense to his enemies.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SERIOUSLY BRINGS OUT THE DARK SIDE IN YOU IN YOU FALSE PRIDE, SELF CENTEREDNESS AND ARROGANCE.. A CONTROLLING SPIRIT

The sin of pride is the sin of sins. The sin of pride is  distinguished as the foremost among the seven “deadly sins,” each of the seven equally as deadly ((Prov 6:16 KJV)  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18   An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
 
Pride is excessive belief in one’s own abilities, that interferes with the individual’s recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise.
Sinful pride is an inordinate love of the self: super-confidence and distorted self-esteem that ignores one’s shortcomings.

 It was this sin, we’re told IN THE BIBLE, which transformed Lucifer, an anointed cherub of God, the very “seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty,”  NEXT into Satan, the devil, the father of lies, the one for whom Hell itself was created. St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 A.D.) wrote, “‘Pride is the commencement of all sin. The sin of pride is a preoccupation with self. The great Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar, suffered from the sin of pride and lost his kingdom for it.   “Is this not Babylon the great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty?”  Daniel 4:30

One way to determine whether or not you are preoccupied with yourself is to evaluate your motives, acts  TO SEE IF THEY ARE MOSTLY SELF CENTERED OR NOT. AN EVENT IN THE LIFE OF MIRIAM MOSES’ ELDER SISTER TENDS TO ILLUSTRATE THIS NOW.. incidentally all of God’s prophets still remain  sinners.. Except for Jesus Christ there never was a perfect man, a perfect prophet  who DID not sin, does not sin.. God uses sinners for prophets.. Moses himself sinned and missed the promised land due to his sin..

(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

(1 John 2:1 KJV)  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

(1 John 2:2 KJV)  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

(1 John 2:3 KJV)  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

(1 John 2:4 KJV)  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

(1 John 2:5 KJV)  But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

(1 John 2:6 KJV)  He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

(Num 20:7 KJV) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink. 9 And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him. 10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock? 11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also. 12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

Miriam BECOMES the first woman in the Bible to be called a prophet. She lived around 1520-1420 B.C. and was the older sister of Moses and Aaron. Her name means either “MER-eh-um” (loved by God ) or “meer yawm’” (rebellion). Ironic how she could manifest both tributes now too. Miriam is first mentioned directly by name in the Bible in Exodus 15, but tradition holds that she is also the sister of Moses mentioned in Exodus 2, who had watched over baby Moses as he floated in the Nile.

(Exo 15:20 KJV) And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances. 21 And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

In Exodus 15.20-21, we see Miriam and the women leading the Israelites in praise to God with dancing, tambourine music and singing. This celebration followed Moses’ Song to God . Miriam did not just lead a group of women in worship; Miriam led the women in leading the whole nation in worship. She is the first “worship leader” we find in scripture.

We know that Miriam was also like many others an important figure in Israel, but we still next do have very few details about her from scripture. While she is described as a prophet, we never hear or Read about any of any of her prophecies. Most people today would describe Moses, and possibly Aaron, as the SOLE main leaders God had chosen to lead His Jewish people out of slavery in Egypt. BUT God now includes Miriam in this list as well. Micah prophecies in Micah 6.4: For I brought you up from the land of Egypt, and redeemed you from the house of slavery; and I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.

 And here too we see that God has no issue lifting up women leaders, spiritual leaders, even in the presence of the God selected male leadership. We also see the chronicler list Miriam in his genealogy in (1 Chr 6:3 KJV) And the children of Amram; Aaron, and Moses, and Miriam. The sons also of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

It is quite unusual to include women in a genealogy, which further confirms, proclaims Miriam’s prominence.

BUT THE BIBLE STILL ALSO SAYS Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.  

(Song 8:6 KJV)  Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame.

(1 Cor 13:4 KJV)  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,  5   Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

(1 Cor 13:2 KJV)  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

(Num 12:1 KJV) And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb.13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee.14 And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again. 15 And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.

Deuteronomy 24:8, 9: “Take care, in a case of leprous disease, to be very careful to do according to all that the Levitical priests shall direct you. As I commanded them, so you shall be careful to do. 9 Remember what the LORD your God did to Miriam on the way as you came out of Egypt.

Now why did God punish Miriam more severely for her rebellion over Aaron. was it cause she was a women? Numbers 12:1 Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman.

Notice that Miriam’s name is given first, before Aaron’s name. Also, the verb “spoke against ” is in the feminine form and it’s singular. Miriam was the primary issue here. She was the chief instigator and leader of this rebellion against Moses’ authority.

(Exo 18:17 KJV) And Moses’ father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good.18 Thou wilt surely wear away, both thou, and this people that is with thee: for this thing is too heavy for thee; thou art not able to perform it thyself alone. 19 Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee: Be thou for the people to God-ward, that thou mayest bring the causes unto God: 20 And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt show them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do. 21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens: 22 And let them judge the people at all seasons: and it shall be, that every great matter they shall bring unto thee, but every small matter they shall judge: so shall it be easier for thyself, and they shall bear the burden with thee. 23 If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace. 24 So Moses hearkened to the voice of his father in law, and did all that he had said.

God next confirms the suggestion to Moses.

Numbers 11:16 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Gather for me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them, and bring them to the tent of meeting, and let them take their stand there with you.

In Numbers 12 we next do see Miriam confronting Moses about his wife. The Midianites sold Joseph into slavery in Egypt (Genesis 37.36). Later, we see God commanding His people to kill the Midianites. Yet, Moses’ wife, Zipporah, is a Midianite. Cush was part of Midia. They were idol worshipers and Zipporah’s father was a priest of this pagan religion (Exodus 2.16). So it may seem that Miriam may besomewhat justified in confronting Moses about his marriage, but there a couple of other issues to deal with here.

First, Moses’ wife Zipporah was black. So, we have, perhaps, the first interracial marriage protest. Cush is a region south of Ethiopia and people that come from there are known for being black-skinned. Jeremiah 13.23 says: Can the Ethiopian [same Hebrew word translated Cushite in Numbers 21.1] change his skin or the leopard his spots?

We also see that Miriam is not happy with her subservient leadership role while Moses and others are  the top dogs. While Moses is humble, Miriam and Aaron are acting in a prideful and arrogant manner. Consider the text of Numbers 12:1-3: While they were at Hazeroth, Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married (for he had indeed married a Cushite woman); and they said, ‘Has the Lord spoken only through Moses? Has he not spoken through us also?’ And the Lord heard it. Now the man Moses was very humble, more so than anyone else on the face of the earth. It was jealousy on Miriam’s part pure and simple, likley jealousy of the influence of Moses in-laws, while, and at the same time, she and Aaron were not consulted about the appointment of 70 elders. Likley she even began to feel that their position and authority had been ignored. Neglected! “Do we not get ourselves in trouble whenever we feel that some position or place of ministry is ours by right? isn’t that what got the whole problem with sin started in the first place? The sin of pride?”

In response to Miriam’s criticism, God does not get angry at Moses; or Aaron,  he gets angry at Miriam. The criticism has to do with Moses’ marriage and Moses’ authority.  The most explicit statement relates to the marriage AND MIRIAM’S SELF CENTEREDNESS .The story ends when Aaron pleads for Moses’ forgiveness and Moses prays to God for his sister. After a week, Miriam is restored (Numbers 12.12-15). Miriam, like her two brothers, also dies in the desert before the Israelites reach the Promised Land (Numbers 20.1).

Miriam. In one event , she is leading all of Israel in worship. In another, she is acting with pride (and possibly racism) and God temporarily next rebukes her for it. But God still loves her, keeps her in a place of leadership too.

 
(Exo 20:3 KJV)  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
 
(Exo 20:4 KJV)  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
 
(Exo 20:5 KJV)  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6    And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
 
(Psa 34:18 KJV)  The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
 
(Psa 51:17 KJV)  The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
 
(Mark 7:22 KJV) 21   For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22  Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:  23  All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
 
(Prov 25:19 KJV)  Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.
 
(Lev 26:19 KJV)  And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:
 
(Psa 10:2 KJV)  The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.
 
(Psa 10:4 KJV)  The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.
 
(Psa 31:20 KJV)  Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy presence from the pride of man: thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues.
 
(Psa 36:11 KJV)  Let not the foot of pride come against me, and let not the hand of the wicked remove me.
 
(Psa 59:12 KJV)  For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.
 
(Psa 73:6 KJV)  Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
 
(Prov 8:13 KJV)  The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
 
(Prov 11:2 KJV)  When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.
 
(Prov 13:10 KJV)  Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
 
(Prov 14:3 KJV)  In the mouth of the foolish is a rod of pride: but the lips of the wise shall preserve them.
 
(Prov 16:18 KJV)  Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
 
(Prov 29:23 KJV)  A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
 
(Isa 23:9 KJV)  The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth.
 
(Isa 25:11 KJV)  And he shall spread forth his hands in the midst of them, as he that swimmeth spreadeth forth his hands to swim: and he shall bring down their pride together with the spoils of their hands.
 
(Jer 13:17 KJV)  But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the Lord’s flock is carried away captive.
 
(Jer 48:29 KJV)  We have heard the pride of Moab, (he is exceeding proud) his loftiness, and his arrogancy, and his pride, and the haughtiness of his heart.
 
(Jer 49:16 KJV)  Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD.
 
(Ezek 7:10 KJV)  Behold the day, behold, it is come: the morning is gone forth; the rod hath blossomed, pride hath budded.
 
(Ezek 16:49 KJV)  Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
 
(Ezek 16:56 KJV)  For thy sister Sodom was not mentioned by thy mouth in the day of thy pride,
 
(Dan 4:37 KJV)  Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
 
(Dan 5:20 KJV)  But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:
 
(Hosea 5:5 KJV)  And the pride of Israel doth testify to his face: therefore shall Israel and Ephraim fall in their iniquity; Judah also shall fall with them.
 
(Hosea 7:10 KJV)  And the pride of Israel testifieth to his face: and they do not return to the LORD their God, nor seek him for all this.
 
(Oba 1:3 KJV)  The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
 
(Zep 2:10 KJV)  This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.
 
(Zep 3:11 KJV)  In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.
 
(Zec 10:11 KJV)  And he shall pass through the sea with affliction, and shall smite the waves in the sea, and all the deeps of the river shall dry up: and the pride of Assyria shall be brought down, and the sceptre of Egypt shall depart away.
 
(Zec 11:3 KJV)  There is a voice of the howling of the shepherds; for their glory is spoiled: a voice of the roaring of young lions; for the pride of Jordan is spoiled.
 
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV)  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
 
(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

 

Pride is not only sinful but it is a deadly disease, sin for it kills your personal relationship with God.. Being now overly proud of any object is a sin and that includes yourself, your status, your achievements, your wealth, your job, your home, your community, your church, your denomination, your family, wife, children included, your car, bike or anything else for that matter too

 

Proverbs 3:12 tells us that “the LORD reproves him whom he loves, as a father the son in whom he delights. ”

Hebrews 12:6 “For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son [or daughter] whom he receives.


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September 18, 2010

Dealing effectively with life’s problems

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July 28, 2009

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Now as I was reflecting about my many past posts on the net  in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting  it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..
 
(1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11    But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12   Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
 
 
(Psa 37:16 KJV)  A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked. 17  For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
 
(Psa 119:104 KJV)  Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
 
(Prov 4:5 KJV)  Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
 
(Prov 4:7 KJV)  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
 
(Prov 16:16 KJV)  How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!
   
 Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the truth to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely.
 
(Eccl 8:1 KJV)  Who is as the wise man? and who knoweth the interpretation of a thing? a man’s wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed.  2  I counsel thee to keep the king’s commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God.
3  Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
4  Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?
5  Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man’s heart discerneth both time and judgment.
6  Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him.
7  For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be?
8  There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.
9  All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.
10  And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.
11  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
12  Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him:
13  But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.
14  There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happeneth according to the work of the righteous: I said that this also is vanity.
15  Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.
 
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(Prov 22:16 KJV)  He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.
 
(Prov 23:5 KJV)  Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.

 (Prov 11:4 KJV)  Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.

 
(Prov 11:28 KJV)  He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch.
 
 
Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..
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May 9, 2009

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June 11, 2013

For by fire and by His sword

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(Jer 9:23 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: 24  But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD. 25  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;

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Let’s be clear,  false Pride in Self still does cause many people to do wrong, sinful things, even professing Christian persons .. and it even makes them wrongfully think they are doing God’s will, serving God but in reality they are serving the devil.

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(Jer 12:6 KJV)  For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.

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Sadly there is a lot of  religious confusion these days even by those who now are deluded into thinking they have a direct line to the King Jesus and don’t even need The Holy Spirit to help them know, understand the truth still. . They gather such information as is available from books and personal contacts and experiences and throw it into a pot with their own ideas and desires and cook up their own private brand of religion and even falsely still do want to call it Christianity too..  They falsely draw up their own spiritual laws  in accordance with what they falsely still do believe are the King’s own instructions and desires. It is rather their deluded souls, carnal flesh, and the devil speaking through them. as in reality our world is filled with wicked spirits whose job it is to impersonate the King, present a false Jesus  and delude souls who do not from their hearts desire to submit to the authority of the King and do things His way.

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 I Cor. 13:9 Paul said, “… we prophesy in part.” There are two reasons for this. One is expressed in Prov. 4:18, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” In other words, the revelation of truth is progressive and needs to be checked out, confirmed  by the Holy Spirit, the Bile, even others..

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Just because we have the Bible doesn’t mean we have all the truth at our disposal. The truth contained in the written word must be “opened” or revealed by Christ if we are to understand it and benefit. All the study in the world will not take the place of Christ opening the book and ministering living anointed truth suited to the time and need.

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Daniel, as great a man of God and yet  he was, was still even  told to shut up the words and seal the book till the time of the end. Daniel 12:4. The end times was the begging of Christ Ministry on earth and the the related New Testament development  and it’s Pentecost.. As only Christ has the authority to “open the book” (Rev. 5:1-5)

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(Phil 3:7 KJV)  But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8   Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9   And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10   That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

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Why is it that so many persons who preach it to others do not practice it firstly themselves?  Personal repentance included? So why is it they cannot change themselves? They are evidently are unwilling to do so. I  too have also often wondered why so many Christians, even pastors  that I have met do not continue with the Lord, and they clearly also do not love other persons.. for  sadly too many even professing Christians have still even now made their the acquisition, pursuit of money, the false love for all of the things that money can buy,  as their false idol, and one of their false goal in life, and as a result they now personally  do not really have love for God, love for his people or love for others… and this is still really unacceptable to God.
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(1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Do you really think there is such a thing as a little bit pregnant, a little bit sin being allowed now especially for pastors? when you see even  their sins of abuses of others you clearly are still just seeing  the tip of the iceberg. It is an indication of idols in their own life that they are unwilling to give up.
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(Rom 12:1 KJV)  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3   For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
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(Isa 1:13 KJV)  Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 14  Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 15  And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16  Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17  Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18  Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
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(Psa 119:69 KJV)  The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.
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(James 4:1 KJV)  From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?2  Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3  Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. 4   Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5   Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
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(Micah 7:6 KJV)  For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house. 7   Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me. 8  Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me.9  I will bear the indignation of the LORD, because I have sinned against him, until he plead my cause, and execute judgment for me: he will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold his righteousness.10  Then she that is mine enemy shall see it, and shame shall cover her which said unto me, Where is the LORD thy God? mine eyes shall behold her: now shall she be trodden down as the mire of the streets. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. 42  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
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(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
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(Prov 29:23 KJV)  A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
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(Isa 66:1 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
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(Isa 66:4 KJV)  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
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(John 16:2 KJV)  They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3   And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
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(Mat 10:22 KJV)  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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(Mat 24:9 KJV)  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
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(Mat 26:31 KJV)  Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
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(Mat 10:17 KJV)  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
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(Mark 13:9 KJV)  But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
(Mark 13:13 KJV)  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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(John 3:20 KJV)  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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(John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
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(John 15:20 KJV)  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.21  But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. 23  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
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(1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10   He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
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(1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21  And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
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(Isa 66:5 KJV)  Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
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(Isa 66:6 KJV)  A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompense to his enemies.
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(Isa 66:14 KJV)  And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.
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(Isa 66:15 KJV)  For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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(Isa 66:16 KJV)  For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
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(Rom 3:12 KJV)  They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.13   Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14  Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15  Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16  Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17  And the way of peace have they not known: 18  There is no fear of God before their eyes.
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(Isa 10:1 KJV)  Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed; 2  To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless! 3   And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory? 4  Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
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(Jer 5:10 KJV)  Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD’S. 11 For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD. 12  They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: 13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
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(Isa 66:17 KJV)  They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
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(Ezek 23:29 KJV)  And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms. 30  I will do these things unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idols.
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(Zep 3:11 KJV)  In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD. 13  The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
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(Isa 66:24 KJV)  And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
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(Prov 25:4 KJV)  Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer.
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(Prov 25:5 KJV)  Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.
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(Amos 5:10 KJV)  They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
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Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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I remember once telling God how some professing Christians, people tried to physically kill me, and God replied.. but I did not let that happen, I spared your life, I protected you.. anyway you did not shed any blood.. (Heb 12:4 KJV)  Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 
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June 7, 2013

Baptized with the Holy Spirit and even filled with the Holy Spirit yet?

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 5:49 pm
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I have been a Christian for about 50 years and I too have learned that you can not choose just the parts of the Bible, the New Testament included that you like and neglect the rest as next you will walk in darkness, led  to do so even by the Holy Spirit.
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Being filled  and also being Baptized with the Holy Spirit in the  New Testament both are not   a gradual process of the professing Christian believer solely yielding to the Holy Spirit, merely having more of the fruit of the Holy Spirit,  so that the Holy Spirit has more of the believer rather it is undeniably and clearly in the New testament an instantaneous, immediate filling and Baptism of the Holy Spirit experience. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually   after the person is saved. While “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.” We Christians have certainly not all have been empowered by the Holy Spirit yet. There are those who are “nominal ” Christians and there those who are “experienced  ” Christians ,those who have been baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit  firstly, not even many preachers.
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The  baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing now too, the promised land, the prosperity gospel have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, especially in the extreme fundamental religious circles and now all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.   They do not have God’s understanding of the subject cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His 
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The testimony of John the Baptist shows us that when the Lord Jesus baptizes anyone after their Salvation  with the Holy Spirit, it also next takes place at a moment in time. This was what happened even on the day of Pentecost.

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Acts 2:2-4 2 And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.

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It was not a gradual process; it was not a question of yielding to the Holy Spirit already dwelling within them. It was the Holy Spirit coming upon them and filling them. This becomes clearer as we look at other passages in the Book of Acts that describe how believers were filled with the Holy Spirit. For example, when Peter preached to Cornelius and those who were with him, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message and they received the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:44-45).

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Peter recounted this event in Acts 11:15-16:

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Acts 11:15-16 15 “And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.” 16 “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’

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Peter explained that what took place was the baptism with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit fell upon them and they spoke in tongues instantaneously now as well.

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We can see this also in Acts 8:15-17. In verse 15, the apostles prayed for the Samaritan believers that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Then we read in verses 16 and 17:

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Acts 8:16-17 16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the Holy Spirit.

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These persons they  were already believers, they already have had the Holy Spirit within them, but the Holy Spirit was now coming upon them to empower them.  

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Or are you one who still falsely tries to explain away these New Testament Bible truths? and really why is that now?

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While in the old Testament  isolated occurrences involved people whom the Lord specially called and empowered  by the Holy Spurt for specific roles and responsibilities But in in the  New Testament God is willing to empower all Christians who have received the lord Jesus Christ as their savior to all have the Holy Sprit’s empowerment.  I can see why some of the preacher differentiates the baptism with the Holy Spirit from being filled with the Holy Spirit  as being  supported from the Scriptures as they are very different experiences even, It is important to recognize that it is still now  God’s will for all believers to be baptized with the Spirit and also to to be continually  filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
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8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
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Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
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33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
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I still find it really now absurd that so many people are experts to speak on the Baptism, filling of the Holy Sprit when they clearly have never had such an experience it.. as Jesus had said you can tell them what they are  by their fruits, rather even  their clear  ignorance of the Holy Spirit still. 
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There sadly and not unexpectedly is much controversy and debate about the baptism with the Holy Spirit and being filled with the Holy Spirit especially since the devil opposes it and falsely stirs people to oppose it. .
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 Imagine this also some clearly ignorant people falsely would  try to say that because any subject is controversial, it is wrong, should be ignored, avoided, etc. especially the Baptism of the Holy Spirit where it  it seems  to be mostly opposed falsely by  the dispensationalist and the  the Baptist denominations which  still also  falsely believe  that all Christians they do receive the Holy Spirit upon conversion and they now do not need the evidence of speaking in other tongues, but yet they clearly do mostly  not manifest any empowerment of the Holy Spirit still.. . 
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Yes the Baptism of  The Holy Spirit  as per John 3:1-18  is a very controversial subject or some in the modern day church nevertheless one that keeps popping up because it is ordained by God to do so. A Christian has initially the Holy Spirit of GOD within them by faith upon conversion  if they have specially asked for it firstly, nut most have not and do not even know anything about the subject of the Holy Spirit even.. But still all Christian believer must experience an outward manifestation of the Holy Spirit ‘s empowerment   at some other point in their walk with GOD in Christ hopefully but most falsely still do not.. For we don’t know what we should pray for as we ought but the Spirit market intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And He that searcheth the hearts knoweth the mind of the Spirit because He maketh intercession for the saints according to the will Of GOD, Jude: 20 & Romans 8:26-27. , Isaiah 28:11-12 & 33:19. It  Whatever it may be we must  pray to the the Holy Spirit teach us the whole truth here too, as we are commanded to do so,  
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Yes under the New Covenant, the Holy Spirit filling scenario is different.from the Old Testament. Of course, submission to God, yielding to the working and guidance of the Holy Spirit are important issues in our lives, but being baptized with the Spirit or having the fullness of the Spirit is not merely yielding to the Holy Spirit already dwelling in the heart of the believer. It is the Holy Spirit coming upon the believer and filling him, empowering him, changing him
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 It is God’s intention for all His children to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit, continually filled with the Holy Spirit, and be led, taught and empowered by the Spirit in every aspect of their lives. Sadly, many of God’s children are not filled with the Holy Spirit. This has significant implications on their spiritual growth and their contribution to the advancement of God’s kingdom. If you have it you would know for sure, it would have changed your own personal Christian life dramatically.
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There are much too many professing Christian believers who do not pay due attention to the role and ministry of the Holy Spirit in their lives. As a result, they experience almost none   the life and power of the Spirit. This significantly hinders their spiritual growth and service. This is so even   they are incapable to  participate in any Christian programs and activities.
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There are various reasons for their neglect of the ministry of the Holy Spirit, such as being ignorant of this area of truth and being over-reliant on personal capabilities, unrepentant sins,  and effort to work out their faith  and the excesses of those who over-emphasize of their inflated egos still.
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As with any position in doctrines, those who oppose  that baptism with the Holy Spirit is accompanied by tongues really do need to substantiate such a position clearly from the Scriptures but they rightfully have not been able to do so. They would rather confuse the issue deliberately it seems still proving the devil is controlling them rather still.
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To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom  we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?
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(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One,    Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
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Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

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Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…
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 and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those many still  in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths.
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It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those carnal people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”
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The New Testament scriptural presentation is that there two events, the baptism with the Holy Spirit and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Those who are baptised with the Holy Spirit experience being empowered, equipped by the Holy Spirit. .  Thus the “Baptism with the Holy Spirit”  is a reference to the experience when Christ baptizes us with the Holy Spirit whereas “being filled with the Spirit” describes  the holy Spirit’s prescience in our lives.. And so, when we are baptized with the Spirit, we are also filled with the Spirit but we also do have to be refilled but this is not so  with the baptism with the Holy Spirit .
This understanding of the two expressions is consistent with the scriptural presentation of the experience of the fullness of the Spirit when one is baptised with the Spirit and Paul’s injunction in Ephesians 5:18 to be filled and continue to be filled with the Holy Spirit. The injunction implies that a believer may or may not have experienced the gifts, empowerment, equipping  of the Spirit and there are those who have must take care that they continue to be filled. The original text of Ephesians 5:18 has the sense “be filled and continue to be filled”. It is meant to be a continuing reality, not just an experience at a moment in time.The fullness of the Spirit is a reality that we need to maintain if we have already been Baptized personality by the Holy Spirit. 

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The Scriptures still clearly exhorts all believers to be Baptized now and to be personally  filled with the Holy Spirit.  Ephesians 5:18: “Be filled with the Spirit”. Why would there even be a need to be filled if you had it already now?  Jesus promises us that he will Baptize us with the Holy Spirit and Paul’s exhortation in Ephesians 5:18 makes it clear that even though it is also still God’s intention for all to be filled with the Spirit, not all are filled nor Baptized, and Paul’s exhortation implies that we can do  now something about it.
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So have you personally now you been Baptized with the Holy Spirit and even filled with the Holy Spirit again?
 
see also
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

June 4, 2013

A true Christian, True Christianity

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 7:25 am

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For a lot of people these days their too often false version of mere Christianity seems to consists of Having a blog with the word Christian and their name on it, or  going to church 3 times a years and  for some others it is going Sunday morning.. but not to any of the prayer meetings, or the Sunday night services..  and that is all it is it  seems to be for many.. then others seem to wonder why these people have gone astray and are so much in error  now too.
But my own version of true Christianity is significantly deeper, and broader as well.
 
Firstly I accepted the personally need to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and personal savior from all of our sins as well nut I also believe in the need of Sanctification, the Baptism of the Holy spirit where one next is equipped  for God’s service, God will and plan for their life, including all of the charismatic’s gifts now too.
 
I also do believe in the need of all Christians to have daily devotionals, Bible and prayer time with God preferably  both morning and evenings, starting and ending the day with God, and where God can personally speak to us,   teach, direct us some more. Just as I believe in daily repentances, confessions to God the admission of our sins now too
I belief when the bible says the just shall live by  faith now that includes each and every person, they are to trust God to supply their needs, wants, desires, to live their life based on God words, his instructions to them, not based on falsely following after other men or women, or one’ supposed personal inclination, supposed talents.
 
I rightfully do believe the same equal rights now of all persons, of all ages too, and in voluntarily, unenforceable, mutal submissions to any Christian persons, pastors, elders.. and I do not believe in any enslavements. hierarchy pecking order etc.,,
 
I also do believe in the personal need of appropriate evangelism in love firstly, our being able to share, to explain , to teach to others the biblical the reasons for one’s Christian based faith, beliefs.
 
I also do believe in the  need of all Christians participating in both social actions and political action now too. We all do need to be really concerned, involved  personally and as a church in  helping the poor and needy people starting in our own church, neighborhood  too. I clearly believe in guiding, directing, instructing the political leaders to make the right choices, decisions, laws now too and insuring that we elect the best persons available for the job, not necessity Christian ones even.
 
Having a good time, being self centered, selfish, acquiring all the material goods, pleasure one can have is certainly not what being a true Christian now is all about too.
 
Yes I also believe that Christians can only marry another really Christians and that all Christians cannot divorce, while they temporarily can get a separation, for proper Biblical counseling mostly.
 
I rightfully and clearly now still do not believe in having the wife as the boss, head of the home, thus her having all of the say, the sole run of all things now too…
(Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(Eph 5:24 KJV) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(Eph 5:27 KJV) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
I also do not believe in taking any ostrich approach when we personally eye unacceptable wrong doings towards ourselves and others, and I do believe in asking all of the bad persons to repent, to even next openly expose, rebuke them now even too for their wrong doings and repentances, even if they think they are somebody, a pastor , cop or politician , professional included.. God himself does not accept personal or human rights abuses, sins, unrepentances  quietly.
Nor do I  I automatically assume that all persons even any professing Christians now too  now are are decent, honest, the real purveyors of justices too.
Jesus said by their own fruits not their mere words you can tell what a tree is like for a good tree brings forth good fruit, and a bad tree bad fruit..
 
Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Matthew 12 L33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
So I too do have a right or the duty  to be a fruit inspector 
Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
 
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
Mark 8:32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
(Mat 18:17 KJV) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
(Rev 2:4 KJV) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 3:1 KJV) And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable. All of these mostly immoral,  lying now persons, pastors who practice, counsel divorce, even the preachers, spouses, lawyers, judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
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Live peaceably with all men

 

 

possibleRomans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Romans 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

The Christian Zionists  are those who  are  the professing Christian Jewish Lovers, persons who clearly even deny the Gospel and the name of Jesus Christ by their false and “absolute and unconditional support” of all Jewish actions, behaviors, in their still false belief that the tribe of Judah is still Gods chosen people among all humanity, even over the Christians, the church of Jesus Christ.

“It’s a strange thing that Southern Baptists have such a ‘great love for the Jewish people.’ And stranger still that Baptist preacher John Hagee can whip up more love for Jews than he can for Jesus “  Brother Nathanael

 Christian Zionism is a bad cult movement in that its absolute and unconditional idolatry of all of “the Jews” and it falsely does not offer an excuse for its racism and discrimination among people of the world as it’s sole focus of life is to aid the Jews only, and is not supported by the New Testament. You falsely do see  no protest from any of them when Israeli’s openly kill innocent Palestinians, Arabs,   or  Christians. “Christian Zionism is a theology that supports a political regime based on apartheid and discrimination – yet millions of people in the US express their support for it” Stephen Sizer

“Only one nation, Israel, stands between … terrorist aggression and the complete decline of the United States as a democratic world power… If Israel falls, the United States can no longer remain a democracy. …Arab money is being used to control and influence major U.S. Corporations, making it economically more and more difficult for the United States to stand against world terrorism.” Mike Evans ,  ‘Israel – America’s Key to Survival’

”It must be emphasized at the outset that Christian Zionism is viewed by Middle Eastern churches as a new heresy and dangerous intrusion into the life of the people of the region. In fact, it supports political agendas which often thwart efforts of unity, justice and peace and undermines their witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the region.”  Also for thousands of years the established, traditional Christian Churches rightfully has not preacher, or supported Christian Zionism.. Nor has the New testament or the Apostles as well.

The majority of American Christian Zionists reside in the Southern United States. The majority of these Christian Zionists are at or below poverty level and uneducated in public schools and the higher educational interests of religion and are generally totally Bible ignorant, do not keno Jesus Christ personally, or the New Testament, God or the Holy Spirit still. Always at the top of the list as enemies of these “Judeo/Christians” in their hatred, death cult movement are the Arabs and Islamic peoples still.

You will often hear their hatefully remark of “the Palestinians should go live with the Arabs because God gave the land of Israel to the Jews forever”. Nothing could be farther from the truth but to investigate the truth of tribal possession is flatly snubbed by the Christian Zionists in their zeal to empower the Jews, Ungodly  false wars against the Palestinians and Arabs.

The Christian Zionists are and have been taught  to hate all those  whom the Jews hate and to help to kill who the Jews want killed.  In this false Zionistic  zeal  its can be seen how too willingly the Christian Zionists are in their readiness to help now physically kill all Arabs and Muslim people and anyone else who stands in Israel’s false attempt to reconquering now all of the promise land, to falsely rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as well. Even the Messianic Jews tend to falsely go along with this and their false aim also is  aim  to conform itself to the body of Judaism so much so that the Christian Zionist movement will become a totally acceptable form of Judaism. Their false   completeness of God is seen as the combination of “Judeo/Christian”.

The Christian Zionist Movement  today is also clearly more concerned with himself being accepted and approved by the hexarchy of Jewish traditionalists over that of Jesus Christ. Will the Christian Zionists be accepted by the hexarchy of Judaism? Never.  Can a Christian be an accepted Jew? Never.

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see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/god-desires-still-peace-on-earth/

May 28, 2013

Are you Romantically inclined

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 4:54 am
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If anyone was to browse even the prayer requests  posted on the Internet one can quickly see that prayers for a mate take a large part of the center stage as well as THEIR personal concern of having more prosperity, a good, well paid  job, and one’s good health. 
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Now there is a great diabolic evil spirit that also exists very common and it is called Romanticism or Lust.. Romantic Fiction and Christians- The Hidden Enemy = Most of what we tend to encounter in film, radio, books, magazines under the term “Romance – Love” are merely seductive evil spirits, and the lust of the decaying flesh. “  Romantic fiction: the female equivalent of porn?
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Just as it is morally wrong for a man to develop an appetite for women other than his wife by exposing himself to porn, so it is wrong for a wife to expose herself to romantic fiction, because it could stimulate dissatisfaction with her husband.
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There are amazing similarities between women viewing or reading romantic fiction (soap operas, movies and romance novels, etc) and men viewing soft porn.
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Few of those engaged in either activity see any harm in it. They think they can have a little fantasy and a little pleasure without it weakening their real life relationships. It’s so easy to excuse enjoying romantic fiction, just as it’s easy for men to excuse appreciating female flesh.
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Women long for romance like men long for erotica (the visual side of sex). They would like it as a prelude to sexual relations just like men would like an erotic display as a prelude to the physical side of sex. And men typically feel uncomfortable about romance, like many women feel uncomfortable about such things giving their partner a private strip show.
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Both erotica and romantic fiction create images of, and create a longing for, things that no normal partner could ever match, with the result that both sexes end up wishing their partners were more like those portrayed on the screen. With porn, lighting, making up, poses, photo touch-ups (even plastic surgery) and so on mean that even beautiful women cannot compete. In addition, men become addicted to variety. Romantic novels, films etc. are equally artificial and impossible for any normal man to get anywhere near equaling. Novelists and script writers devote enormous effort to getting the man saying the perfect thing in just the right romantic setting. They are experts in knowing what appeals to women, like those involved in the porn industry are experts in knowing what appeals to men. In real life situations not even the writers themselves could equal the charm of their fictional characters. Normal conversation, for instance, would not allow them enough time to get their lines right.
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In real life, the initial euphoria of romance wears off. The really heady stuff is more likely with a new partner. Similarly, men get less and less excited about seeing their wives nude.
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If you sense something wrong with men going to strip joints but nothing wrong with romantic fiction, it might do well to remember how Jesus warned against our tendency to have 20/20 vision when it comes to seeing the faults of others, but being decidedly short-sighted about our own weaknesses. Each of us must decide before God where to draw the line, and we will come to different conclusions, but it is before God that we will one day stand.
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Comments by women
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From the co-author of a Christian book for woman:
I agree with your questioning of romance books. I quit reading all Christian romances when I noticed my discontent with my husband was increasing. He was nothing like the men in romance novels, and the harder I tried to make him ‘perfect’ the more miserable we both became.
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Another woman writes:
Women get caught up in story fantasy where men get caught in visual fantasy. Women become dissatisfied with their lives because their husbands don’t measure up to the hero, and the romance isn’t there as it is in the story.
If women would put in more effort into their real life relationships instead of living through fantasy, there would be less family difficulties. Women are so easily led by their emotions, and feelings. They are very ‘I’ centered also. Through these fantasies they focus on how everyone should be treating them but never see how they are treating others.
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Yet another woman writes:
I agree with you about romantic fiction. I’d long felt uneasy about it (and especially about so-called Christian romantic fiction), but so many women I know live off it that I wondered if it was just a matter of taste (or like one friend said to me, “Not everyone can read that high-brow stuff you read”). I think you hit the nail on the head. What you say about women becoming dissatsified with their husbands as a result of reading (or watching, in the case of TV or films) romantic fiction is something I’ve witnessed several times among my friends and acquaintances. Mind you, this has also happened to some of them as a result of reading books about Christian marriage (they must have skipped the chapters about Christian wives).
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It is primarily women who like romance, giving gifts, remembering birthdays, verbalizing emotions, and so on. The more these longings are fanned by romantic fiction, the more women end up virtually craving women in men’s bodies. This has disturbing implications for lesbianism. Perhaps it is also another reason why single women who don’t limit themselves to Christian men find that the men they are most attracted to are often gay. Homosexuals tend to display more typically feminine traits.
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 There are things women would like their partner to do for them because it makes women feel feminine. What women need to realize, however, is that often these very things makes their partner’s feel effeminate. Except in romantic fiction, what lights your fire, probably puts his fire out. Like the performance women put on in sex shows, the men in romantic fiction seem to enjoy these things, but it’s all part of the act.”   Anyone involved in counseling knows that marriage complaints take the center stage there as well. Why? Many people are still personally really unhappy in life, single and married ones too. So what are the answers…
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(Psa 145:9 KJV)  The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. 10  All thy works shall praise thee, O LORD; and thy saints shall bless thee. 11  They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power; 12  To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom. 13  Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations. 14  The LORD upholdeth all that fall, and raiseth up all those that be bowed down. 15  The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season. 16  Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing. 17  The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. 18  The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. 19  He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. 20  The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. 21  My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever. 146:1  Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2  While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3  Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
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Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.  (Psalm1:1 KJV)
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 Eph 4:15   Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ
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Too many people too readily accept professing Christians persons now as being real Christians. Many people still do fail to realize beforehand that the person that now they are even selecting on their own possibly for their mate may have unresolved personal issues, sins that will next have serious an adverse effect not only on their marriage, relationship but even on others as well. We need God’s wisdom to know what some people are now really like still too.
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What would you think seriously of a medical doctor who generally does not tell their client that they have a serious medical sickness, they may have major heart problems, they may have cancer. etc.. The reason this doctor does not tell his clients the truth is that he thinks that God himself still may change the reality and miraculous cure them, or the underlying fear that of the people hear negative news they will seek another doctor that will tell them the positive news, diagnosis they want to hear, so not to lose customers the doctor does not tell them the truth? You would say to me that is a real bad Doctor then?
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 I too did not understand many wives need to read romantic books until years later I looked into them and they were sex porno’s.. I was shocked when God then himself told me that a lot of the women’s home magazines given out door to door freely were pornographic too. In Long-standing concerns over pornography’s corrupting influence are being confirmed by recent studies. Romance too often is still porno.. .. In past years restrictions on sexual content in the media were rejected by many secular observers. But the flood of Internet pornography is leading to second thoughts. On Tuesday the New York Times reported about growing concern over the effects on children. The article reported on the findings published in last July’s issue of the journal Pediatrics, in a study titled “Impact of the Media on Adolescent Sexual Attitudes and Behaviors.” There is no doubt, however, that young people are immersed, often without parental supervision, in a media culture abundant in increasingly graphic sexual content… Survey data collected at the November 2002 meeting of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers in Chicago looked at the impact of Internet usage on marriages. At this meeting, 62% of the 350 attendees said the Internet had been a significant factor in divorces they had handled during the previous year. They also observed that 68% of the divorce cases involved one party meeting a new love interest over the Internet. And 56% of the divorce cases involved one party having an obsessive interest in pornographic Web sites. Although Internet pornography is commonly consumed by one household member in a solitary fashion, the impact of sexually explicit material is felt by the entire family, and the community in general. The Catechism of the Catholic Church warns against pornography. No. 2354 noted that it not only offends chastity, but also does grave injury by making people the object of base pleasure. Moreover, “It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world.” Fantasy or not, its impact is increasingly causing grave damage…
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May 25, 2013

SELF CENTERED, SELFISH, CARNAL, NOT A NEW TESTAMENT THEOLOGY

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Matthew 10 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
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Matthew 16 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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HIS PROMISED LAND IS IN HEAVEN AND HE HAS MUCH GOOD THINGS FOR US HERE ON EARTH ALSO,  ”IF YOU ARE   WILLING AND OBEDIENT YOU   SHALL EAT THE GOOD OF THE LAND!”  IS REALLY   STILL A SELF CENTERED, SELFISH, CARNAL, NOT A NEW TESTAMENT  THEOLOGY AND IS BASED ON MERE HALF TRUTHS  NOW TOO.. THAT OVERLOOKS THE REALITY OF ONGOING TRIBULATION ON EARTH FOR ALL CHRISTIANS STILL AS JESUS AND THE APOSTLES HAD TOLD US.
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Matthew 10
36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
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Philippians 3
18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
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John 16
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Acts 14
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
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Romans 5
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
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Romans 8
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
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Romans 12
12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
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2 Corinthians 1
4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
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2 Thessalonians 1
4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye end
Revelation 1
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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Matthew 13
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
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Matthew 5
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
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Matthew 12
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
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Matthew 13
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
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Mark 4
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
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Mark 8
38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
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Revelation 2
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
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10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
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MERE MEN DO DISTORT THE BIBLE AND   ARE NOT WELL VERSED ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY SAYS.   WE AIL CHRISTIANS WILL LIVE IN HEAVEN FOR  7 YR. TRIBULATION PERIOD, IS A BIG LIE, DISPENSATIONAL WISHFUL  THINKING. AN   EVANGELICAL DISPENSATIONALIST , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS  SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING  THEY PREACH THE RAPTURE FALSELY.   BUT   WE WILL COME BACK WITH HIM AND RULE AND REIGN ON THE NEW HEAVENLY JERUSALEM ABOVE NEW EARTH  FOR 10O0 YEARS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED DURING THE 7 YEARS TRIBULATION, Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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 THE CHRISTIANS ALIVE AT THE SUPPOSED BIG COMING GREAT  TRIBULATION WILL GO THROUGH IT ON EARTH AND NOT IN HEAVEN..
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 Look there are still the good seeds God has sowed and there are bad seeds the devil sowed.. On the net as well.. in Churches now too.   There is holy Spirit anointed person and there are the demon, carnally led persons too. They of course teach very different things.. How can you tell the difference? Well here is a great clue.. anyone who is ignorant of the person of the Holy Spirit is not a real Christian yet… so he or she do not have the real truth.
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 Read ALL OF the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the Holy Spirit’s of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible”s as well . Now some would lie to me and say were are living in the last days.. you all are living firstly in your last days on earth.. there is no second change on earth.. Evangelical dispensationalists see the half empty glass, half truths, the last days as the abundance of sinful men, cause they have their eyes on men and not God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit rather, and what you think the people in the days of the Romans, Jesus Christ were now all saints too?
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That’s why He has provided so many signs to warn us to the fact that we are living on the threshold of the tribulation.” and what signs are these? that are now so different from the ones we had the last 2000 years? and how would you even know they are different too? Jesus himself still said no one knows the date of his return and not even him.. so why argue with him them now? a rebellious spirit? The signs Jesus was talking about were the end times of Judaism, the destruction of the Jewish temple, Jewish records, and their world wide dispersions too. Nothing else. Now those bad people pick and choose now some verse and try to force it mean something such as the restoration of Israel was promised 1948.. when there is no New Testament substantiation for it and it contradicts Jesus own words that the house of Israel will be made desolate even till His return.. .. or that a new temple will be built even one that even now Contradicts the will of God still..
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 Look for over 50 years those lying evangelical -dispensationalists, a crappy only 200 years old religion only too, could not even agree to themselves and they still have never been proved right in their New testament prophecy projections. Evangelical is not even a Biblical word.. Anointed is.. Most of them are not even real Christians for sure as they admit to never have been baptized with the holy Spirit even. Anyone now can take a Bible verse, the devil often does, and try to make it suitable to some particular event.. and these fools often do still.. China and Russia will invade Israel or Syria, for example.. ha ha ha or the revived Roman Empire is the nations of Europe.. ha ha ha
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 Ironically not one of the so called Bible sign expositors had even predicted 911 and why was that? I rightfully do like these people who put their own false interpretations to their own chosen Bible verse. Tier flaw interpretations are all cause they are not Hoy Spirit led, Hal Lindsey included now. They found he subjects makes loads of money though.. that is why it is falsely mostly sold too.
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These future stupid prophecy nuts tend to take you away from Jesus Christ, onto  the devil, 666, antichrist etc.. as they still do tend not know the holy Spirit personally, and even tend to deny his operations.. so that shows me how really stupid they mostly now are demons..

March 19, 2013

The fall of the Anti Christ

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Mere men and not the Holy Spirit now are leading you away from the real Bible truths  into lies, distortions, falsehoods even the Dispensationalists.  Dispensationalist eschatology is a new theology  not even  a part of Christianity even for 1800 years, was originally taught by a Plymouth Brethren evangelist named John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800’s and was popularized by the Scofield Study Bible, published initially in 1909.
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Dispensationalism is a man made system of arbitrarily dividing up God’s dealings with man into certain time periods and it gained more popularity toward the end of the 20th century through popular money making books such as “The Late Great Planet Earth” and many others..
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The first Dispensation supposedly of the church age was a Dispensation of miracles. This first dispensation is when God gave supernatural attestation to the writing of the Scriptures. My Jesus  still heals, delivers, perform Miracles today as Hebrews 13:8 says ” Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”  It is no wonder these lost supposedly  Christians persons do  oppose the gifts, working, and the person of the Holy Spirit even now as he does not go along with their lies..
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This dispensation ended with the closing of the canon of Scripture (with the book of Revelation) and the dying off of the initial apostles a fact that is a great untruth.. Jesus the Word still lives even till we see him face to face..  1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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The remainder of the church age consists of a downward spiral toward apostasy, also known as the great falling away. This down-hill spiral is reflected in seven phases of the church age, reflected by the letters to the seven types of churches written in Revelation 2-3, hypothesizing falsely that the final condition of the church will solely be characterized by the church in Laodicea which was described as “wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—“ Rev 3:17
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At the end of the church age, when the church is supposedly at it’s weakest point, the false church in fact only, an anti-christ ruler is going to surface who will try and turn being a Christian into a living hell. But supposedly  just before that, there will be a secret partial return of Christ where Christians disappear in an event dubbed “the Rapture”, although there realy isn’t anything in the Bible about a partial second coming. Many false doctrines are built on minor Bible references still here too.
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“The secret rapture doctrine takes several different forms. Some believe all Christians will disappear, while others believe only certain groups within the Body of Christ will go. One version is that the over-comers (those walking in victory at the moment of His return) will get rescued. Others believe it will only be those who are ready and expectant of His appearing, who will get to go.” But who really knows now?
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This event, triggers a 7 year dispensation called the “Great Tribulation” where evil totally triumphs in the earth.
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At the end of that time, Jesus returns again, along with the group He raptured, but this time sets up his throne in Jerusalem and inaugurates the dispensation of the rule of God on earth called the Kingdom age or the “millennium”. There is even a great controversy as to who actual even resides on earth during this period..
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Dispensational literalists say that the physical Jesus will be ruling the Jews, the whole world, out of His headquarters in Jerusalem, along with the rest of  all us immortalized Christians; but at the same time there will be also regular mortal humans on the earth. But everybody will be tame because the devil will be locked up during that whole time. Some also falsely do contend that the ancient mode of ceremonial temple worship will be re-implemented with red heifers and blood sacrifices being offered in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. This is Jewish fables..
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At the end of that era, the devil will be let out for one last final attempt at a coup before he is thrown into hell with all the people he sways in his last big hurrah along with the people who support him now too.
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At that point the final phase of Christ’s return will now  happen where all the dead are resurrected and all the nations and peoples (apart from the Christians) will be judged before the great white throne judgment of God. Judged for their rewards? Since all bad people automatically go to hell upon their death.. Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
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Dispensationalist eschatology falsely   has produced a view that the reign of God and His glorious Kingdom is for some distant future 1000 years era instead of any present reality, how clearly demonic. This doctrine sabotages any real hope or expectation for renewal and revival. This errant theology   is  fatalistically glorifying mainly that devil and the “anti-christ” who is about to emerge in the earth and try and make them accept a tattoo or computer chip in order to buy and sell. It grants power to a devil who Scripture tells us has been stripped of all power and authority. (Luke 10:19; Col. 2:15) It has contributed to a fear that there is a vast and comprehensive world-wide conspiracy of evil all around us, poised and ready to take over the government, the economy, and even the apostate churches. It reduces the need to contemplate and to dwell on Christ.. 1 Corinthians 2::2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.  Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Philippians 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
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The possibility of  personal salvation world wide is emphasized and thus the goal is to get everybody ‘saved”; while ignoring Christ’s actual commission in Mathew 28:18-20 to disciple nations and neglecting  the truth that the  Christian now has an ability live a full Holy Spirit filled, empowered Christian life..  as Jesus himself had said  in John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
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“Jesus Christ came as the Son of Man (the Second Adam) to set up God’s Kingdom on the earth. The Biblical prophecies that Christ would reign as King were fulfilled in Christ’s enthronement at His ascension. Daniel’s prophecy of the Son of Man coming in the clouds was fulfilled at the ascension of Christ. The Kingdom was established during the first advent of Christ, (including the judgment of A.D. 70 and destruction of the temple) It is now in progress and will continue to increase until the end of the world.
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The Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21) is not about the second coming of Christ. It is a prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70; Christ’s impending resurrection, ascension and enthronement; and the final days of temple worship and the end of the Mosaic covenant. Christ’s own words stated it would happen in their lifetime. (the preciseness and accurate, detailed fulfillment of Jesus’ words are documented by the then contemporary historian Josephus) Jesus clearly described what he called the “great tribulation”, as part of what would happen in their generation, but would never happen again. Jesus clearly and explicitly said it will not. Matt 24:21 “For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be”. The “Great Tribulation” took place in the fall of Israel. It will not be repeated and thus is not a future event. (although Christians in every age have had to endure suffering for the faith)
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All of Christ’s enemies are gradually being subdued under His reign from heaven. He will remain in heaven until all enemies are defeated. The last enemy, death will be destroyed when he returns. (Acts 2:34-35)

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Jesus Christ will return on the Last Day, when the resurrection and the last judgment will take place. The “Rapture” (the translation/immortalization of all believers) and the Second Coming will occur together. There will be one resurrection of all men; the righteous will be raised unto everlasting life, and the wicked will be raised to eternal judgment.

More specifically, through faith in Christ we have ALREADY passed from death into life; have ALREADY been healed by His stripes; have ALREADY been raised up with Him; and are ALREADY seated with Him in heavenly places. We ALREADY have dominion over sin, sickness and disease, and even nature itself, but must activate those things by faith. (Note Ephesians 2:4-7; Colossians 2:11-16)Isaiah 9:6-7: “For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder… Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, to order it and establish it with judgment and justice from that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”

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It is not time to live in fear or some kind of fatalistic expectation of any of the darkness overtaking the light. Rather, it is time to recognize   2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

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see also


http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/tag/anointed/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sole-gospel/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/
                    

What Happened to the promised land?

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 Let me be very clear that the devil and his demon followers will try to seduce you in your mind, in your sleep and if  he here does not succeed he will send a person to you, one of his clear followers, another false angel of light now too,  and to try to do this as well now they will do this by    phone, email, personal visit and they  also will ask you to do something wrong on their behalf and/or falsely ask you to take sides in a fight or a dispute, like the one going on between the Muslim and the Jews.   King James Bible And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me;  Luke 12:14  But Jesus asked him, “Mister, who appointed me to be a judge or arbitrator over … to him, “Who appointed me to be your judge or to divide [your inheritance]?”;

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 I love Israel , has nothing to do with the reality they are no longer entitled to claim the Promised land as I have detailed.. or that Most of them will not go to heaven Romans 2 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

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Now God had promised  that He would give all the land of Canaan (modern Israel) to Abraham and his descendants. The kingdoms of David and Solomon did indeed stretch from the river of Egypt on the Sinai peninsula (not the Nile), across the Syrian Desert to Tiphsah on the Euphrates. When the children of Israel entered the promised land under Joshua, and took possession of it, the land was distributed among the 12 tribes. The selection of the  particular areas where each tribe would dwell was by lot.  In the NT, the land promise of the OT is fulfilled in Christ. Paul said “For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.”  2  Corinthians 1:20   

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It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

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But there is still a serious debate whether  this God give land was given conditionally and  that it was not forever still..  “Israel does not currently enjoy a divine right to the Land. But I would argue that it has never been by divine right but rather by divine mercy that Israel  has dwelt in the Land.” John Piper. 

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Moses and the Hebrew Prophets repeatedly state that the land belongs to God and residence there is always conditional. For example, in Leviticus 25: ‘The land must not be sold permanently, because the land  is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants’ (Leviticus 25:23). The Scriptures  are very clear: residence in the land was always conditional. Notice the “if” and “because” in  Deuteronomy 19:8 If   the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as he promised on oath to your ancestors, and gives you the whole land he promised them, because you  carefully follow all these laws I command you today—to love the LORD your God  and to walk always in obedience to him. (Deuteronomy 19:8-9) Through your own fault you will lose the inheritance I  gave you. I will enslave you to your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have kindled my anger, and it will burn forever. (Jeremiah 7:4)

God declared that his judgment upon Israel for her unbelief would include removal from the Land. The  Jews had also been expelled from their promised  land 3 times already, and will be expelled again in the future according to Biblical prophecy by some persons.. Most of Israel they still do not acknowledge Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Today even the majority of Jews do not believe in Jesus and they have broken covenant with God and thus have no divine claim at this time to the land God had once promised them. And  the future of the land promised to Israel becomes subsumed under the promise of God that all believers will “inherit the land … because the entire new heavens and new earth will be Christian owned. Some people claim that God will establish a Jewish state   during the Millenium although there is no New Testament support of this?
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/left-out-of-the-kingdom-of-god-jews-included/

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Clearly even do note the contrast between the old and New Testament next in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus takes a promise made to the Jewish people concerning the Land from Psalm 37, and applies it to his own followers living anywhere in the world. Psalm 37:11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace. vs Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. (Acts 3:24-25) says” Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days. And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed. “ Paul similarly asserts, ‘If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.’ (Galatians 3:29). Even Apostle Peter claims that the promise made to Abraham (Genesis 12:3; 22:18) were being fulfilled among Christ’s followers. No wonder the Jews hate the Bible and the Christian even these days.

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It was not through the laws, promises alone that Abraham and his offspring now even received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. (Romans 4:13) Faith in God, Jesus Christ even.

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John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

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The inheritance of the Jews or the Christian saints, the promised land now was ultimately never an ‘everlasting’ share of territory in Palestine but it was rather an eternal place in heaven. Hebrews shows that even Abraham, the Patriarchs and later Hebrew saints looked beyond Canaan to ‘another’ country where the covenant promises of God would be fulfilled.

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“For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God… And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore. All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one… These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.” (Hebrews 11:10-16, 39-40).

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The Promised land had served it’s main purposes – it provided a temporary residence for the ancestors of the Messiah, David’s greater Son, to host the incarnation, to provide a home for the Lord Jesus Christ, and so be made for ever holy through the shedding of his innocent blood upon it. Like an airport runway, the Land provided a base, a strategic launch pad for God’s rescue mission, from which the apostles would take the good news of Jesus Christ to the world. In the New Testament, the Land, like an old wineskin, has served it’s original purpose.

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The Romans kicked out almost all of the Jews from Israel in the first century.. the Jewish language, Hebrew was no longer spoken there next. Most governments today outside Israel claim Israel’s land expansion after 1948  has been illegal. During the seventh century prior to 1948 Arab armies conquered most of the Middle East, including the land now variously called Israel, Palestine and the Holy Land (some 10,000 square miles). This area, including Jerusalem, became part of the Ottoman Empire and was largely under Muslim control until the early 1900’s. Over this period most of the population gradually accepted Islam and so by the mid 19th century  Israel was occupied by some 400,000 Muslims, 75,000 Christians and 25,000 Jews and  the early 20th century the land was a mix of many peoples representing some 50 languages? In the 2nd century AD, the Romans renamed Judea as ‘Palaestina’ in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Roman Emperor Hadrian began using the term ‘Palestine’ for the whole Land of Israel, and this term has prevailed over the centuries. The final term ‘Palestine’ came to prominence after the Balfour Declaration in 1917, when shortly after this the British were given a ‘Palestine Mandate’. The 1922 Mandate  recognised the existence of a ‘Palestinian people’ , a local Arab population of non-Jewish communities. Naturally the Jews differ on all of this. Soley only old Testament Bible verses are used to try to justify the Jewish claim to their once promised Land since the New Testament clearly  does not formally recognize their right to the land anymore.

The Old Testament Bible instructs the people of Israel how they should treat foreigners (non-Jews). Old Testament Israel was commanded to love foreigners and to let them live normal lives amongst them (Deut 10.19):”When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall do him no wrong … (he) … shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself …” (Lev 19.33,34) “And they (strangers) shall be to you as the native-born among the sons of Israel; they shall be allotted an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.” (Ezek 47.22)  Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!( Psalms 133:1) The Jews of today do put up any false excuse as to why  they cannot live with others, Palestinians, Arabs in Israel.  God loves Israelis and Palestinians equally  “Israel “should seek a peaceful settlement not based on present divine right, but on principles of justice, mercy, and practical feasibility.” Israel’s government is secular and should be evaluated by the same standards as any other secular government. “

It is a fact that if you base even your Christian theology on the Old Testament alone you will be in serious error. Major error.
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/

Classical Biblical Dispensationalist  do teach falsely a clear  distinctions between  especially the Church Age and the  Jews, Millennium,  and do teach  God’s promise to Israel of ultimate possession and enjoyment of the Promised Land in the time of an other Messianic fulfillment, the Millennium

http://pbulow.tripod.com/good.html

Of great significance that John Hagee and his scantly veiled two-covenant theology has falsely overlooked in pursuit of a personal political agenda (in the name of Christianity) called “Christian” Zionism and what appears to be a strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judiasm are the powerful words and teachings of Paul written in Romans Chapter 9 and Galatians Chapter 4,5 
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/

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God and I love Arabs, Palestinians, Russians, Jews , Chinese, Koreans, American, Germans, etc., yes everyone and do you or do you like to show false partialities? or favoritism?
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Both the Old and New Testaments indicate that God does not show partiality among people, since He is the Creator of all.16 Because of this principle, the Jews were commanded to be impartial. .”So I also have made you despised and abased before all the people, just as you are not keeping My ways but are showing partiality in the instruction. “Do we not all have one father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously each against his brother so as to profane the covenant of our fathers? (Malachi 2:9-10) “Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe.” (2 Chronicles 19:7) Being chosen did not always bring great blessings, since the Jews were held to a higher level of accountability, and were judged for their failures. The Bible makes it clear that God does not show partiality, since He created all people. He commands His people to behave likewise.
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Acts 10 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.
32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.
33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
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In reality, “the Bible says that the Jews were selected to be a blessing to all the nations of the world. In fact, the same Bible now that says that God chose the Jews also says that God does not show partiality and commands the Jews to love other peoples. The Old Testament indicates that the Jews were not prospered because of their righteousness, since they were “a stubborn people.”"

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So where then is the Promised Land finally? It is being prepared for you in heaven if you accept Jesus Christ as your own  Lord and Savior now firstly. For a Christian, to dwell in the land of promise is also a figure, or shadow, of the blessings of living by faith in Christ, in peace, and leaving the wilderness behind. The “wilderness” pictures the progressive journey of a believer to a mature faith. Thus, the land is compared to Eden, where the saints have access to the tree of life, and the promise of immortality. [Ezekiel 36:35; Joel 2:3]

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Do see also 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

March 18, 2013

A common error in the Sabbath keeping is…

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Whoever therefore breaks one of the LEAST of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:17-19).  Ironically most of the people who mention this verse are big liars still and  the biggest Commandment breakers themselves  as no one besides Jesus Christ keeps, … kept all the commandments of the Old testament, The Sabbatth law included, and never mind those in the New Testament..
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Also the Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ “wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us”

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Colossians 2:

1 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;

2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;

22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

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Mark: 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them,  Full well ye reject  the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
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Galatians 4:9-10 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 
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Colossians 2:16 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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“Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed” (Exodus 31:16–17). Note: It says; “the children of Israel) There is no record of any Sabbath keeping in Genesis, or between Adam and Moses. There is no record of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob keeping any Sabbath. The Sabbath came later, as a Covenant between God and the Jews!
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  “And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day” (Deuteronomy 5:15). (Note: Moses tells us, the Sabbath was given to the nation of Israel).
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The word “Sabbath” is derived from the Hebrew word Shabath, which literally means “rest” or “cessation.”  Traditionally,  by choosing to keep the Sunday Sabbath Holy, doing no major work on Sunday, some Christians show openly their true loyalty and love for God but even this is no longer required.
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Matthew 12 1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. 2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. 5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. 10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? 12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
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Passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16–17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s Day (Sunday) instead.
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  Colossians 2:   10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
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A common error in the Sabbath-keeping  is the false concept that the Sabbath was still  the day of worship. Groups such as the Seventh Day Adventists hold that God requires the church service to be held on Saturday, the Sabbath day. That is not what the Sabbath command firstly even was. The Sabbath command was to do no work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 20:8-11). Nowhere in Scripture is the Sabbath day commanded to be the day of worship. Yes, Jews in Old Testament, New Testament, and modern times use Saturday as the day of worship, but that is not the essence of the Sabbath command or the Biblical teaching.
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In the book of Acts, whenever a meeting is said to be on the Sabbath, it is a meeting of Jews, not Christians.  When did the early Christians meet?
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Acts 2:46-47 gives us the answer, “Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.”
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If there was a day that Christians met regularly, it was the first day of the week (our Sunday), not the Sabbath day (our Saturday)
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  Acts 20: 1 And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia. 2 And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation, he came into Greece, 3 And there abode three months. And when the Jews laid wait for him, as he was about to sail into Syria, he purposed to return through Macedonia. 4 And there accompanied him into Asia Sopater of Berea; and of the Thessalonians, Aristarchus and Secundus; and Gaius of Derbe, and Timotheus; and of Asia, Tychicus and Trophimus. 5 These going before tarried for us at Troas. 6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. 7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. 1 Corinthians 16:2). In honor of Christ’s resurrection on Sunday, the early Christians observed Sunday not as the “Christian Sabbath” but as a day to especially worship Jesus Christ.
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1 Corinthians 16: 1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
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All Sabbath Keepers are false prophets these days. Colossians 2:14,16-17 state quite the contrary… “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross… Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of thing…s to come; but the body is of Christ.”  The Old Testament SABBATH was a CEREMONIAL LAW, which pictured Jesus Christ, in whom we rest for the salvation of our souls.  This is evidenced by Hebrews 4:2-4, which state…
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“For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.”
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This passage of Scripture clearly evidences the fact that the Sabbath Day was only symbolic of a person’s faith (i.e., solely resting) in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins.  Mankind attempted to work his way to Heaven through self-righteousness, but he utterly failed (Romans 3:19; James 2:10).  This is represented by man working 6-days prior to the Sabbath Day.  Today, Jesus is our Sabbath, i.e., He is the fulfillment of what the Sabbath Day symbolized.  In Christ we rest for salvation.  Colossians 2:16,17 state, “…or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come…”
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Now the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians.  None of the Old Testament law is binding on us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law
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Romans 10: 1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For …they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. As well as to be filled with  the Holy Spirit. If we obey those   commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
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Note this Sabbath keeping is the only one of the Ten Commandments not specifically repeated in the New Testament. As it is no longer valid.. And the  Seventh Day Adventist or Messianic Jews confused attempt to return/enslave Christians to the Old Testament law is exactly against what the apostles of Christ taught the Church in the New Testament.
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2 Corinthians 6 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

LEFT OUT OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, JEWS INCLUDED

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It is a fact that if you base even your Christian theology on the Old Testament alone you will be in serious error. Major, major error. 

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God had promised   that He would give all the land of Canaan (modern Israel) to Abraham and his descendents. The kingdoms of David and Solomon did indeed stretch from the river of Egypt on the Sinai peninsula (not the Nile), across the Syri…an Desert to Tiphsah on the Euphrates. But there is still a serious debate whether this God give land was given conditionally and  that it was not forever still.. The  Jews had also been expelled from their promised  land 3 times already, and will be expelled again in the future according to Biblical prophecy by some persons.. Most of Israel they still do not acknowledge Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Some people claim that God will establish a Jewish state   during the Millenium although there is no New Testament support of this?
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2 John 1:
1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
2 For the truth’s sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

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1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; instead of the doctrine of Christ

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“A demonic spirit’s favorite activity is making a person feel religious without an understanding of the Word of God.”
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The True Christian Church, not a denomination, but the Holy Spirit filled body of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ  has now received the past covenant blessing God had originally intended for Israel beforehand , and thus  while Christians… are experiencing new life in Christ today in this mystery age of the Church and have relationship with Him, Israel itself will not be victorious globally or as a nation even.
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We are not looking to Judaism, Messianic Jews or the false  Hebrew Roots movement when we speak about the true Church. The new Covenant, New Testament also does not teach that a Jewish person is always saved and will escape Hell. Nor has God never intended His covenant with Israel for Israel to rule the world. These are demonic lies, deceptions, false seductions.
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The Romans, under Titus, grew tired of managing Israel and especially the Jews, and decided to end the Jewish problem in a dramatic and final attempt. Roman legions surrounded the city, set it on fire, and destroyed the holy Temple which was the center of Jewish life in Israel. Thousands of Jews were killed, and then thousands more taken into Roman slave and work camps. Roman historian Josephus, the one first  hand account eyewitness whose testimony has survived, said this:
 ”…the rebels shortly after attacked the Romans again, and a clash followed between the guards   of the sanctuary and the troops who were putting out the fire inside the inner court; the latter routed the Jews and followed in hot pursuit right up to the Temple itself. Then one of the soldiers, without awaiting any orders and with no dread of so momentous a deed, but urged on by some supernatural force, snatched a blazing piece of wood and, climbing on another soldier’s back, hurled the flaming brand through a low golden window that gave access, on the north side, to the rooms that surrounded the sanctuary. As the flames shot up, the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy; they flocked to the rescue, with no thought of sparing their lives or   husbanding their strength; for the sacred structure that they had constantly guarded with such devotion was vanishing before their very eyes.” source – EyeWitnessTo History.com
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  Sporadic fighting continued for a few more years, and then it was all over, Israel lay beseiged and  beaten to a pulp. Years went by, then decades which gave way to centuries.  There was no 3rd God’s Promise to return the Jews to Israel in the New Testament
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Jews and many others now have to  falsely have to resort to lies and the past fulfilled  promises of a return even-   “After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of  Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall  dwell safely all of them.” Ezekiel 38:8 .
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“Presently, Israel is not Messianic, that is, they would not accept their Messiah, nor would Messianic Jews. Otherwise, they would not try to keep the Sabbath and keep pulling away from the Church and showing their hostility towards us. The thing we have to fear the most are those who Judaize Christianity, trying to keep the law, so shall they die by the law with their alleged Christian Sabbath. It is very difficult to get a Messianic Jew to discern the difference between living by the Spirit of the Law and living by their laws they create for their particular cult because their spirits have not been quickened with God’s life, the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. The ‘true Jew’ is the Christian, so if a Jewish person is truly born-again, he will call himself a Christian according to his locality and not throw on a bunch of adjectives. If he lives in Antioch where they were first called Christians, he is a Christian who belongs to the church of Antioch. Simple and sweet! There is no need to say he is a Jewish Christian of the church of Antioch. Claiming one is a Messianic Judaism Jew or Messianic Judaism Gentile Christian of the church of Antioch is likewise false, not the least of which, they are not even Christians. They are Judaizers trying to keep laws God never asked them to keep now and they the Jews should Leave their self-exalted racism out of Christianity! This pride exists and you can sense by the Holy Spirit the Jewish Messianic Jew is just trying to exalt himself in a cult apparently that has been going on since the 60′s and 70′s by its modern version, though started back in the 19th century (but who really cares what laws they select for their particular Hebrew Roots cult, it’s all the same nonsense). I am sure there are more stones to uncover, but next time you come across a Messianic Judaizer, simply say you reject their Christ because we are called Christians, not Messianic Judaism Jews or Messianic Judaism Gentiles, for Jesus filled up the law (Matt. 5.17). Now they call themselves the Jewish Roots movement since it is mostly Gentiles.   If you try to live by the law, you will die by the law. Ye shall know them by their fruits. The Judaizer will ask, where does this expression find itself in the Bible? You are dumbfounded when they ask that question yet they call themselves Christians. Christians are “dead to the law by the body of Christ” (Rom. 7.4). Before being saved a man is “in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death” (v.5) and Hell. Hence, if you live by the law even a law unto yourself, you will die by that law and be eternally separated from God. Such a law might be trying to keep the Sabbath or not eat a certain type of food or performing certain rituals. “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter” (v.6).      “
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Although a free nation is one in which its citizens have a right to disagree with each other; God will not bless a nat…ion that disagrees and rebels against His Word. Freedom is being able to make our own choices; Liberty is the reward for making the right choices. Tragically, too many persons now have overwhelmingly chose to worship false gods; rather the sole, true God of the Bible, Jesus Christ, because they instead are following doctrines of devils
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Almost the whole libraries of the Jewish antiquity, writings  were undeniably torched by the Romans.. So very few authentic  Jewish literature exists at the time of Jesus Christ even except for those of Flavius Josephus   a highly respected… and much-quoted Romano-Jewish historian.. A native of Judea, living in the 1st century AD, Josephus was actually governor of Galilee for a time (prior to the war of 70 AD) – the very province in which Jesus allegedly did his wonders. Though not born until 37 AD and therefore not a contemporary witness to any Jesus-character, Josephus at one point even lived in Cana, the very city in which Christ is said to have wrought his first miracle.
Josephus’s two major tomes are History of The Jewish War and The Antiquities of the Jews. In these complementary works, the former written in the 70s, the latter in the 90s AD, Josephus mentions every noted personage of Palestine and describes every important event which occurred there during the first seventy years of the Christian era also.
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“Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”
– Josephus (aka Joseph ben Matthias) The Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3:  Testimonium Flavianum.
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In a single paragraph ( Testimonium Flavianum) Josephus confirms every salient aspect of the Christ:
1. Jesus’s existence 2. his ‘more than human’ status 3. his miracle working 4. his teaching 5. his ministry among the Jews and the Gentiles 6. his Messiahship 7. his condemnation by the Jewish priests 8. his sentence by Pilate 9. his death on the cross 10. the devotion of his followers 11. his resurrection on the 3rd day 12. his post-death appearance 13. his fulfillment of divine prophecy 14. the successful continuance of the Christians.
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In just 127 words Josephus confirms everything – now that is a Jewish miracles that many Jews even falsely try to deny even these days, like they tend to do with everything associated with Christianity.
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“And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel” (Ex. 19.6).
  This simply means God will usher in the Messiah through Israel, and he has already done …that as well.. Jesus Christ.
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But sadly here Messianic Judaism Jews are also now exalting themselves divisively and have given their lives to a false Christ, one that accuses falsely the Church and Christ our Creator. Jesus did not say to create a denomination called Messianic Judaism, saying “I of Cephas” (denom 1) or “I of Apollos” (denom 2, etc.) or “I of Christ”  (congregationalist). We are not even to say “I of Christ” the Bible says since a church is not a congregation but a locality of believers. And the Bible makes a distinction between the false Church or false tares that try to look like the saved wheat.
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The Bible distinguishes the Church as not the great harlot of religious Rome (Rev. 14.8; ch. 17) which has over 1 billion adherents today-the Roman Church. There is the outward appearance of the kingdom of heaven and the actual Church of born-again believers within that kingdom.
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If the Messianic Jews are born-again, saved in Christ by His precious blood, then why are they so hostile to Christians the Church-body of Christ. It seems to me too that it all comes back to a racism. a false  pride by Jews, falsely exalting themselves as Jews even in matters of Christian fellowship and Church gatherings.
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Messianic Judaism is a cult of Jews (and non-Jews) who even still falsely now accuse the Church of persecuting the Jews.   And these rather false Messianic Jews are not our real brothers and sisters in Christ otherwise they  would not attack the Church  (Messianic Judaism itself is not nor ever will be the Church)  for we real Christians are the Church and we love even the Jews though sadly only a remnant will remain be saved still.
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And Messianic Judaism is a contradiction in terms because Judaism clearly  rejects THE Messiah Jesus Christ. There is only one right Messiah who already came in His first coming. Judaism still falsely claims it has its own Messiah but it is not the Christ. Christians always do  reject Judaism and Pharisees, so it is wrong for a Christian to call himself a Messianic  Jew or any derivative thereof. If you are a Messianic Judaism Jew you still really do worship a false Christ. The Messiah already came. We do not wait for His first coming but His second coming. Therefore, now you should be a Christian. Period!
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And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (Rev. 20.4)
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The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.
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  Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.. In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1). And the full promised by God restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. It is unbelievable, undeniable that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been so easily misled by others. The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament.
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  It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too. after their second dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even for the Jewish return in 1948.. Do try prove me wrong..
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Jesus, who is God  clearly said to all persons now..  JN 15:4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much …fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 15:6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.    (Rev 3:12 KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. (Heb 1:2 KJV)  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
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  Christian Zionists falsely now contrary to the New Testament do  support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, and the rebuilding of the Temple and are in error  because of    their  false  refusal to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord and  how Jesus and the Apostles reinterpreted the Old Testament, with a false assumption that Old and New Testament run at times parallel into the future, the former speaking of Israel and the latter of the Church.
  (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
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   Jesus and the apostles repudiated the notion that the Jews continued to enjoy a special status or relationship apart from faith in Jesus as their Messiah. If God does not show favoritism, the Jews cannot an longer presume to enjoy a favored or exclusive status. By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. (Hebrews 8:13).   The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming– not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship (Hebrews 10:1)
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It is fundamental that all persons, Zionist and Christians,  do read the Scriptures solely with Christian eyes, and that they interpret the Old Covenant in the light of the New Covenant, not the other way round.  Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.  These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.  (Colossians. 2:16-17) This is the most basic hermeneutical error which Christian Zionists consistently repeat is illustrated in the way Christian Zionists continue to regard the Jews as God’s ‘chosen people’ and clearly which is no longer true.
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  (Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.   (Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride… her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.   (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.  (Rom 9:7 KJV) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.   (Rom 9:32 KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone;   (Rom 16:18 KJV) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.   (Rom 8:5 KJV) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.As per the next full supposed re-gathering of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus. (Acts 2:2 KJV) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.  (Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.  (Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 
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   Reality also now is that Apostle Paul was once a Jew but he rightfully gave up his Jewish religion, and followed solely after Jesus Christ so did all of the Apostles, and that was why the Jews hated them, and still do.. There is no Jews or gentiles now in Heaven only born again Christians, all  those persons anointed with the holy spirit. 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/the-sole-and-the-only-true-israel-today-is-the-church/
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Most Jews STILL DO  see so-called Jews for Jesus or Messianic Jews as nothing but more of the underhanded, sneaky Jewish Christian evangelists masquerading as Jews. Basically they seem both to seem to be inviting young Jews to leave eventually the traditional Jewish faith.

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But, unlike traditional Christian missionaries aiming at Jews, Jews for Jesus or Messianic Jews they do  try to make the transition appear easier by denying it is a matter of converting at all–which, however, it is. “You’ll still be Jewish!” which is a lie.. you are a Christian or a Jew and not both.. and you cannot be an adulterer here too as being a Jew is holding to the Jewish religion.

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Note that the creeping Messianic Judaism error that insists that Judaism is “the root of our [Christian] Faith” it thus  falsely tries undermines our confidence in Scripture and our ability to read the Bible properly by the guidance of the Holt Spirit solely. The growing number of adherents to the Messianic Movement who question the deity of Christ, or who are inclined toward a form of legalism that replaces grace with works are disconcerting indications of the Bible ignorance of too many persons here too.

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While clearly there is no doubt about Israel’s past God-given borders because they are described for us in detail in the Holy Scriptures: The Lord said to Abram after Lot had separated from him, “Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever… Arise, walk about the land through its length and breadth; for I will give it to yo…u (Genesis 13:14-17). The Lord made a covenant with Abraham, saying, “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (Gen. 15:18-21). I will fix your boundary from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the River Euphrates
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  For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands, and bring you into your own land… And you will live in the land that I gave to your forefathers (Ezekiel 36:24, 28).
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Again Ezekiel predicts: Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land Jeremiah adds: Behold days are coming declares the Lord, when it will no longer be said, “As the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel out of the land of Egypt,” but, “As the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them.” For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers (Jeremiah 16:14-15).
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  While only the Old Testament the Holy Scriptures record the fact that God swore an oath to give the Jewish people this Land there is no such confirmation in the new testament after the Jews 3rd expulsion from the Land of Israel, this time by the Romans, and so why was that? The Jews en masse openly had rejected their God given Messiah Jesus Christ. They were not removed from any rights to their land forever. The Messianic Jews, Jews, others will lie and tell you falsely otherwise.
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  Today many peoples claim the same piece of real estate in the Middle East. Whose land is it? Who owns the title deed? Israel or the Palestinians? or Jesus Christ? Who has the right to decide to whom the Land belongs? Israel? The Arab nations? The United States? The United Nations? How do we decide? By occupation? By war? By the claims of history? by the Bible? including the New Testament.. The Land of Israel belongs to God. The Land is Mine; for you are but aliens and sojourners with Me (Leviticus 25:23). Since the Land of Israel belongs to God, He can give it to whomever He wishes and take it back now too.
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Jewish Ethnicity will not even facilitate one’s salvation. There are plenty of ethnic Jews that are saved but only by faith in Christ. Only a remnant will be saved for both Jew and Gentile. God is not a respecter of persons. We must do his will which is to believe in his son.
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  Romans 2:29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
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  Mark 3:35   For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
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  John 5:45-46   Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.  For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
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Acts 4: 1 And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them, 2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide. 4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand. 5 And it came to pass on the morrow, that their rulers, and elders, and scribes, 6 And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem. 7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this? 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, 9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. 14 And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it

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Jesus is all I need forever and not Judaism  
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