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August 25, 2015

Things Children of God Can and cannot Do:

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PRAY, ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REVEAL THE BIBLE TRUTHS;

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/pray-ask-the-holy-spirit-to-reveal-the-bible-truths/

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ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL SECURITY  IS FALSE and  also STILL false is the Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by 1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/why-is-dispensationalist-theology-false/

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The rapture, often called “the blessed hope,” is sadly more hoax than hope, even though the man who started it had no intention of deceiving anyone. You need to know what the Bible actually says! The word “rapture” is not found anywhere in the Bible. So where do they get the word from? It was coined from the words “caught up” found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. And we will deal with those verses later on. So what does Christ Jesus our Teacher say about this? Matthew 13:24-30 …’Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; [NO] lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.’

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Matthew 13:38-40 …’The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.’ Notice also what Jesus says in Matthew 28:20 …”lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” … Now why would Jesus reassure us that He would be with us until the END OF THE WORLD, if we were to be raptured away BEFORE the end of the world? Doesn’t make sense does it? Friend, the rapture teaching is a false one invented by Satan to cause God’s people to be unprepared for the time of trouble ahead, that we WILL go through.

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Prior to 1830, no church taught it in their creed, catechism or statement of faith. Credit for the rapture origin generally goes to John Nelson Darby, a 19th-century theologian. “Darby’s pre-tribulational view of the rapture was then picked up by a man named C.I. Scofield, who taught the view in the footnotes of his Scofield Reference Bible, which was widely distributed in England and America. Many Protestants who read the Scofield Reference Bible uncritically accepted what its footnotes said and adopted the [rapture doctrine], even though no Christian had heard of it in the previous 1800 years of Church history” Some rapturists today cite Acts 8:39 saying it uses the same Greek word that is translated “caught up” in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 They say that the fact the Spirit of God “caught [Philip] away” shows that 1 Thessalonians 4:17 means that the saints are caught away to heaven. Yet the Spirit did not transport Philip to heaven, but rather from one place on the earth to another.

http://www.bible.ca/pre-contrast-truth.htm

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Yes according to the absurd fundamentalist Christians, a rapture is coming. “Believers”—those who have “accepted Jesus”—are scheduled to be whisked away without notice—no matter where they are or what they are doing. All of the “unbelievers” will be left behind to suffer under the antichrist, and through the supposed seven-year Tribulation—when war, disease, famine and religious deception explode worldwide. “This doctrine   “ rapture “  is not really found in the book of Revelation. If you read the book of Revelation, you won’t find any mention of the rapture there,”    The   rapture has not  always been  Church teaching, the idea was unknown before the 16th century.  Plymouth Brethren Rev John Darby false  way of interpreting the Bible taught that Christ would first secretly collect His followers and later return to defeat the antichrist. This  false teaching continued through one of Darby’s disciple, Cyrus Scofield, who assembled the Scofield Reference Bible.  But there are many disagreeing theologians here too, remember most rapture theorists do not agree— many found different ways of interpreting the Bible to present the rapture. Which should one listen to? The answer? None—because the belief is not found in the Bible. Inventing theologies such as eternal security, futurism or dispensationalism will not unlock God’s Word! By letting the Holy Spirit interpret the  Bible  itself—the greatest rule of Bible study—one can understand all the real events surrounding the Great Tribulation and next Christ’s Second Coming.

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Regardless of when we’re resurrected, the hope of the eschaton is that we will be resurrected, just like Christ. The problem is, many evangelicals spend more time talking about rapture than resurrection.  Resurrection is the focal point of the New Testament. Rapture  is not.

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Matthew 24:36 and 24:40-42: “But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only…Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for you know not what hour your Lord does come.”  Beginning in verse 40, Jesus explains the condition of society in the last days. People will be “in the field” and “at the mill,” carrying on daily activities. They will also be “eating and drinking” and “marrying and giving in marriage.” In other words, life will seem normal just before destructionjust before the snare. Verse 42 confirms that this will come unexpectedly. Famine, pestilence and military invasion will together claim two-thirds of the population of the modern nations of Israel. Read Ezekiel 5:12. Captivity—enslavement!—will take the remaining third. Before this, God’s people will certainly be “taken” to safety

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The Great Tribulation will take the whole world by surprise. Jesus warned, “For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth” (Luke 21:35). Solomon added, “For man also knows not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time [in this case, the end-time], when it falls suddenly upon them” (Ecc. 9:12). The coming Great Tribulation is real—as is God’s promise to protect His people. But, unlike the rapture theory, the Bible reveals there is a designated place on Earth—not heaven—where His Church will be safe during the three-and-a-half—not seven—years of Tribulation. Matthew 24 also reveals that the surrounding of Jerusalem by foreign forces is the event that signals when God’s people should flee to safety! Christ wants His Church prayerfully involved in their escape from the Great Tribulation. —not self-assured, lazing back, expecting a heavenly vacuum cleaner to do it all for them!

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I Corinthians 15:50-52: “…Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

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There is no proof—or even hint—of a rapture here! Notice the phrase “last trump.” This refers to the seventh trumpet, which announces Christ’s Return to the whole world. This last trumpet is also referred to in Revelation 11:15 and I Thessalonians 4:15-16. It sends a piercing—immense—and reverberating—sound that all inhabitants of Earth will hear.

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Notice this in Matthew: “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man [nothing secret here] coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet [this has to be the last], and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other” (24:30-31). This references the saints wherever they are, either buried or alive on Earth. This becomes more clear.

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Nothing “secret” is being described! This trumpet blast announces Christ’s Return, and it is then when He gathers His people. At this point, His true followers will be changed into perfect, immortal beings. This is the time of the Resurrection, when the “dead in Christ” are raised to spirit-born immortal life.

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The final passage is I Thessalonians 4:15-17: “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God [nothing secret here]: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air [not heaven]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Where? The prophet Zechariah answers: “And [Christ’s] feet shall stand in that day [not seven years later] upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east…and the Lord my God shall come [recall John 14], and all the saints with [Him]” (Zech. 14:4-5).

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Revelation 1:7 declares, “Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him [again, nothing secret here]…and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him.” Also, how could anyone miss such a verse? It practically screams off the page! Jesus further confirmed in Acts 1 that He will return in the clouds

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Jesus Christ built His Church—the true Church—the only one He built—2,000 years ago. This Church believes and teaches the truths of the Bible—all of them—not human ideas—any of them  Sadly, most people stull just do not read their Bibles, choosing to trust deceived,lying  ministers instead.

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In 1974 Corrie Ten Boom wrote to warn Christians about the false teaching of the pre-tribulation rapture. This teaching is very popular in America, even though there is no scriptural basis for it. Many believers have bought into it because they have heard it taught by their pastor or by other Christian leaders, but we must study the scriptures for ourselves. There are some among us teaching there will be no tribulation, that the Christians will be able to escape all this. These are the false teachers that Jesus was warning us to expect in the latter days. Most of them have little knowledge of what is already going on across the world. I have been in countries where the saints are already suffering terrible persecution.In China, the Christians were told, “Don’t worry, before the tribulation comes you will be translated – raptured.” Then came a terrible persecution. Millions of Christians were tortured to death. In America, the bad churches preach the Rapture “Let the congregation escape tribulation”, but in China and Africa , Muslim Countries the tribulation has already arrived. God has promised to deliver his people from the wrath to come (Revelation 3:10, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:9), but has not promised to deliver us from persecution, which comes from the wrath of men operating under the influence of Satan. In fact, just the opposite is true. He promised we would be persecuted. That might not be what we want to hear, but it is what we need to hear because it is the truth.

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Jesus was persecuted for doing the will of God. It cost him his life. He warned his followers they would also be hated and persecuted.

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“If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world—therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘Servants are not greater than their master. ’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also. But they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. (John 15:18-20)

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Not only have Christians been persecuted throughout history, but the Bible reveals even greater persecution is coming during the end-times. The antichrist will be given power over the saints for three and a half years (Daniel 7:25). He will shatter the power of the saints (Daniel 12:6-7). He will make war against the saints and will overcome them (Revelation 13:7 and Daniel 7:21-25). The saints will be beheaded (Revelation 20:4-6) and destroyed (Daniel 8:24).

http://z3news.com/w/proof-the-rapture-happens-on-the-day-of-the-lord/

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Scriptures that refute “Eternal Security”

1 Parable of sower

  • Mark 4:16 (Luke 8:13) “And in a similar way these are the ones on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy; (they believe for a while) and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only temporary; then, when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.

2 Fallen from grace passage:

  • Galatians 5:4 “You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”

3 Pruning passages:

  • John 15:5-6 “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch, and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”
  • Romans 11:19-23 “You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you. Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again.”

4 Hebrews Passages:

  • Hebrews 6:4-6 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame.
  • Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.”
  • Hebrews 10:38-39 “But My righteous one shall live by faith; And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.”

5 Doctrinal Apostasy passages:

  • Acts 20:17,28-30 “And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called to him the elders of the church.” … “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.”
  • 1 Timothy 1:18-21 “fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these are HYMENAEUS and Alexander”
  • 2 Timothy 2:16-18 But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are HYMENAEUS and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some.
  • 1 Timothy 4:1 “But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons”
  • 1 Timothy 6:20-21 “O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called “knowledge”-which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.”
  • 2 Peter 2:1 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.”
  • 2 Peter 3:17 “You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest, being carried away by the error of unprincipled men, you fall from your own steadfastness”
  • 2 John 8-9 “Watch yourselves, that you might not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.”

6 Moral Apostasy passages:

  • 1 Timothy 6:9-10 “But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.”
  • 2 Peter 2:20-22 “For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.””
  • James 5:19-20 “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins.”

7 Revelation passages:

  • Revelation 2:4-5 “‘But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. ‘Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place-unless you repent.”
  • Revelation 3:5 “‘He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels.
  • Revelation 3:16-17 ‘So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. ‘Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked”

8 Old Testament passages

  • Ezekiel 18:24-26 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? “When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die.”

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The fact the Bible exhorts to faithfulness proves one can be lost

1.be steadfast immovable: 1 Cor 15:58

2.If these qualities are yours…2 Pe 1:5-11

3.we will reap if we do not grow weary: Gal 6:9

4.be faithful unto death and I will give crown of life: Rev 2:10

5.practice these things and God will be with you: Phil 4:9

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Eternal salvation is only given to the obedient –

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Once made perfect, he [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation for all who OBEY him (Heb. 5:9). All , people need to get saved and stay saved, which often doesn’t happen! The Christian life is a fight against sin (Heb. 12:4). Sin not only defiles, it can bring a righteous person to his spiritual death. To be worthy of Jesus, you must place him first in your life (even before your family), take up your cross and follow Jesus (Mt. 10:37,38). Only the continual followers of Jesus possess eternal life. Multitudes in our day, who profess to be Christians, only have the faith of demons. They profess Jesus as the Son of God, but live in sin. They do NOT have eternal salvation.

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It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.

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But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

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There is a very dangerous person that we should be aware of, and even not associate with, Like the Apostle Judas, and they tend to do they dirty work in the background, not transparently to all, do have a hidden bad agenda .The Last Supper specifically portrays the reaction given by each apostle when … Judas is wearing green and blue and is in shadow, looking rather withdrawn . An Apostate. Apostasy in Christianity refers to the rejection of Christianity by someone who formerly was a Christian.;The term apostasy comes from the Greek word apostasia (“ἀποστασία”) meaning defection, departure, revolt or rebellion. It has been described as “a willful falling away from, or rebellion against Jesus Christ, Christianity. Apostasy is the rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ by one who has been a Christian… describing those who have voluntarily and consciously abandoned next their original faith in the God of the covenant, who manifests himself most completely in Jesus Christ. “Apostasy is the antonym of conversion; it is deconversion.”

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

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And it seems 50 percent of once loudly professing Christians will next become Apostates, sell Jesus cause they falsely did not get what they wanted, even wealth, power, fame, recognition, more sex…

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html

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Things Children of God Can Do:

  1. Fall from grace – Gal. 5:1-4,13
  1. Be led away with error – 2 Pet. 3:17
  1. Err from the truth – James 5:19-20
  1. Weak brother may perish – 1 Cor. 8:11
  1. Fall into condemnation – James 5:12
  1. Be moved away from the hope – Col. 1:21-23
  1. Deny the Lord who bought them – 2 Pet. 2:1
  1. Depart from the living God – Heb. 3:12
  1. Can be a castaway – 1 Cor. 9:27
  1. Can become accursed children – 2 Pet. 2:14

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THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT IS FOR THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH

Revelation 1:

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

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Mere men and not the Holy Spirit now are leading you away from the real Bible truths  into lies, distortions, falsehoods even the Dispensationalists.  Dispensationalist eschatology is a new theology  not even  a part of Christianity even for 1800 years, was originally taught by a Plymouth Brethren evangelist named John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800’s and was popularized by the Scofield Study Bible, published initially in 1909.
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Dispensationalism is a man made system of arbitrarily dividing up God’s dealings with man into certain time periods and it gained more popularity toward the end of the 20th century through popular money making books such as “The Late Great Planet Earth” and many others..
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The first Dispensation supposedly of the church age was a Dispensation of miracles. This first dispensation is when God gave supernatural attestation to the writing of the Scriptures. My Jesus  still heals, delivers, perform Miracles today as Hebrews 13:8 says ” Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”  It is no wonder these lost supposedly  Christians persons do  oppose the gifts, working, and the person of the Holy Spirit even now as he does not go along with their lies..
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This dispensation ended with the closing of the canon of Scripture (with the book of Revelation) and the dying off of the initial apostles a fact that is a great untruth.. Jesus the Word still lives even till we see him face to face..  1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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The remainder of the church age consists of a downward spiral toward apostasy, also known as the great falling away. This down-hill spiral is reflected in seven phases of the church age, reflected by the letters to the seven types of churches written in Revelation 2-3, hypothesizing falsely that the final condition of the church will solely be characterized by the church in Laodicea which was described as “wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—“ Rev 3:17
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At the end of the church age, when the church is supposedly at it’s weakest point, the false church in fact only, an anti-christ ruler is going to surface who will try and turn being a Christian into a living hell. But supposedly  just before that, there will be a secret partial return of Christ where Christians disappear in an event dubbed “the Rapture”, although there realy isn’t anything in the Bible about a partial second coming. Many false doctrines are built on minor Bible references still here too.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/the-fall-of-the-anti-Christ/

November 16, 2014

THE MAJOR ERRORS OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

The false interpretation of biblical literalism of Christian Zionism leads them to falsely to demonise Arabs and Palestinians as permanent Satanic enemies of the Jewish people… Christian Zionism a false teaching that focuses on the Jews in the land rather than an inclusive theology that centres on Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world consequently provides a theological endorsement for racial segregation, apartheid and war. This is diametrically opposed to the inclusive theology of justice, peace and reconciliation which lie at the heart of the new covenant, the New Testament, the teachings of Jesus Christ and his Apostles too.

THE MAJOR ERRORS OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

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