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November 16, 2014

THE MAJOR ERRORS OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

The false interpretation of biblical literalism of Christian Zionism leads them to falsely to demonise Arabs and Palestinians as permanent Satanic enemies of the Jewish people… Christian Zionism a false teaching that focuses on the Jews in the land rather than an inclusive theology that centres on Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world consequently provides a theological endorsement for racial segregation, apartheid and war. This is diametrically opposed to the inclusive theology of justice, peace and reconciliation which lie at the heart of the new covenant, the New Testament, the teachings of Jesus Christ and his Apostles too.

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/the-major-errors-of-christian-zionism/

June 4, 2013

Live peaceably with all men

 

 

possibleRomans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Romans 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

The Christian Zionists  are those who  are  the professing Christian Jewish Lovers, persons who clearly even deny the Gospel and the name of Jesus Christ by their false and “absolute and unconditional support” of all Jewish actions, behaviors, in their still false belief that the tribe of Judah is still Gods chosen people among all humanity, even over the Christians, the church of Jesus Christ.

“It’s a strange thing that Southern Baptists have such a ‘great love for the Jewish people.’ And stranger still that Baptist preacher John Hagee can whip up more love for Jews than he can for Jesus “  Brother Nathanael

 Christian Zionism is a bad cult movement in that its absolute and unconditional idolatry of all of “the Jews” and it falsely does not offer an excuse for its racism and discrimination among people of the world as it’s sole focus of life is to aid the Jews only, and is not supported by the New Testament. You falsely do see  no protest from any of them when Israeli’s openly kill innocent Palestinians, Arabs,   or  Christians. “Christian Zionism is a theology that supports a political regime based on apartheid and discrimination – yet millions of people in the US express their support for it” Stephen Sizer

“Only one nation, Israel, stands between … terrorist aggression and the complete decline of the United States as a democratic world power… If Israel falls, the United States can no longer remain a democracy. …Arab money is being used to control and influence major U.S. Corporations, making it economically more and more difficult for the United States to stand against world terrorism.” Mike Evans ,  ‘Israel – America’s Key to Survival’

”It must be emphasized at the outset that Christian Zionism is viewed by Middle Eastern churches as a new heresy and dangerous intrusion into the life of the people of the region. In fact, it supports political agendas which often thwart efforts of unity, justice and peace and undermines their witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the region.”  Also for thousands of years the established, traditional Christian Churches rightfully has not preacher, or supported Christian Zionism.. Nor has the New testament or the Apostles as well.

The majority of American Christian Zionists reside in the Southern United States. The majority of these Christian Zionists are at or below poverty level and uneducated in public schools and the higher educational interests of religion and are generally totally Bible ignorant, do not keno Jesus Christ personally, or the New Testament, God or the Holy Spirit still. Always at the top of the list as enemies of these “Judeo/Christians” in their hatred, death cult movement are the Arabs and Islamic peoples still.

You will often hear their hatefully remark of “the Palestinians should go live with the Arabs because God gave the land of Israel to the Jews forever”. Nothing could be farther from the truth but to investigate the truth of tribal possession is flatly snubbed by the Christian Zionists in their zeal to empower the Jews, Ungodly  false wars against the Palestinians and Arabs.

The Christian Zionists are and have been taught  to hate all those  whom the Jews hate and to help to kill who the Jews want killed.  In this false Zionistic  zeal  its can be seen how too willingly the Christian Zionists are in their readiness to help now physically kill all Arabs and Muslim people and anyone else who stands in Israel’s false attempt to reconquering now all of the promise land, to falsely rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as well. Even the Messianic Jews tend to falsely go along with this and their false aim also is  aim  to conform itself to the body of Judaism so much so that the Christian Zionist movement will become a totally acceptable form of Judaism. Their false   completeness of God is seen as the combination of “Judeo/Christian”.

The Christian Zionist Movement  today is also clearly more concerned with himself being accepted and approved by the hexarchy of Jewish traditionalists over that of Jesus Christ. Will the Christian Zionists be accepted by the hexarchy of Judaism? Never.  Can a Christian be an accepted Jew? Never.

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see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/god-desires-still-peace-on-earth/

May 23, 2008

Good and Bad Unacceptable theology

Good  acceptable  theology
 
Holy Spirit  Here are some great articles on the Holy Spirit
The Faith Posted by: thenonconformer | May 20, 2008

 (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

        
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
 
Dispensationalism, IS FALSE BUT IT IS A GREAT MONEY MAKER, for IT SELLS A LOT OF BOOKS, TAPES, MOVIES TO THE IGNORANT, to all those persons who do not read the bible honestly for themslves.. it is a great cash cow.
 
Isn’t it ironically and hypocritical while there is only one Bible many Christians ALSO cannot agree on the role of Israel today and in the future, and many cannot agree on the role of the Holy Sprit now as well.
 
 A house divided against itself cannot stand (Mark 3:25)  applies to  Churches, and our homes, and our marriages too.
(Prov 16:19 KJV)  Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
 
All these Dispensationalist have to quote solely it seems the Old testament to support their views? what their views are not confirmed by Jesus and the apostles?
 
I had talked face to face with now an ex president of the Canadian Christian Missionary alliance on this too.. the only thing he could confirm for sure in prophecy from the Bible was the return of Jesus Christ… the rest was filled with contradictions, controversies still
 
The subject of Israel’s prophecy made Daniel sick too..(Dan 8:27 KJV)  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
(Dan 12:4 KJV)  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
 
IF Daniel WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DEAL WITH IT HOW CAN ANYONE ELSE?
 
People would be better of living the  life of Christ today (Mat 6:34 KJV)  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 
The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America.  I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too.
 
For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
  
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected officals.
           

The Bad Unacceptable  theology

Dispensationalism

Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the  THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.

Incidentally because of Rev. Hagee’s  false views on Israel  I have from the start rightfully not supported Rev. Hagee’s endorsement of US senator McCain  “I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.”  22 May 2008  This is the same John Hagee whose support John McCain was originally  “glad” to have despite “condemning” some of his views.      

 Hagee’s views on Israel supposedly have nothing to do with Israel’s best interests and everything to do with Hagee’s own interest in promoting his own radical viewpoints. Hagee is opposed to territorial concessions for peace and a two-state solution.   He is outspoken in his support for military action against Iran. [  He raises money to build illegal Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories and opposes a shared Jerusalem. 

Senator McCain’s  past embrace of John Hagee spoke poorly of his judgment of personal character, it calls into question whether he has any understanding of what it really will take to bring about peace and security in the Middle East.

Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/

The  bad fruits of Christian Zionism Of great significance that John Hagee and his scantly veiled two-covenant theology has overlooked in pursuit of a personal political agenda (in the name of Christianity) called “Christian” Zionism and what appears to be a strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judiasm are the powerful words and teachings of Paul written in Romans Chapter 9 and Galatians Chapter 4 and 5

 

Doo see..

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

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A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (1) This is an interesting study.
By Nathan Pitchford posted at Monergism;
Note: This list represents a wide segment of popular Dispensational teachings; however, Dispensationalism is by no means a monolithic entity, and many self-professed Dispensationalists, particularly in the Progressive school, would not adhere to many of its points.
Introduction:Dispensationalism is basically the method of interpreting the scriptures that […] Filed under: Being Equipped, Bible, Theology | Tagged:  

A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (2) continued from part (1)
2. The Fulfillment of Prophecy
A) The true heir of the Old Testament promises is not ethnic Israel, but only Christ, the one Seed of Abraham.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as […] Filed under: Bible, Theology | Tagged:

Judeo – Christianity Does Not Include Jesus Christ Or Messianic Jews Excellent post by Job at Primitive Christology
He makes some excellent points on the letter posted (here) yesterday. Filed under: Bad Theology, The Apostasy | Tagged:

THE ISRAEL OF GOD: a consideration of so-called “Replacement Theology” Excellent teaching on a much misunderstood topic by Peter Cohen at Messianic Good News:
“You Cannot Have The Promised Land If You Do Not Accept The Promised Prince Of Peace” unknown
In his book “The destiny of Israel and the church” Derek Prince stated: “Essential truth is usually simple, and the truth is, Israel is Israel, […]  Filed under: The Church, Theology | Tagged: ,  

Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth How important is it that we rightly divide the Word of God? In today’s world of multiple erroneous and/or false teachings, its imperative that we learn to do so for false teachings and beliefs have a way of multiplying and building upon each-other, until finally the ‘whole house’ of theology we have erected is […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Bible, Theology | Tagged: , , ,

Baaaaad Theology You know, I found some of the comments made by this pastor really sad (its an old article from January 06).
The WashingtonPost: Among Evangelicals, A Kinship With Jews
I won’t post the entire article, its 3 pages long, but just a few quotes:
DANVILLE, Va. — Everyone who worships at the Tabernacle quickly learns three facts about […] Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged: ,  

The Fruit of ‘Bad’ Theology Last evening when reading through and posting the article from the Christian Post: Evangelical Leaders: Jews Need Jesus Christ, brings rebuke from ADL, I was overjoyed to read that many Christian pastors/leaders etc stepped up publicly, declaring Jews need and can only receive salvation through Jesus Christ. On the other hand though, I thought […]  Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged:

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (1)  A couple weeks back I posted the link to this in “The-Ologys”, but after re-reading it tonight decided to post it in (2) parts on the front page: I believe its an important article and message.
From Monergism: The Threat of Christian Zionism by Nathan Pitchford
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If the phenomenal success of the bestselling Left Behind series indicates […] Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (2) continued from part (1)
What Are the Potential Results of Christian Zionism?
In light of what has previously been said, it should be apparent that Christian Zionism has the potential to shape the beliefs and practices of its adherents in a great many arenas. Some of these will now be designated more clearly: Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

Mis-applying Scripture Just writing from my heart right now–so forgive me if this post appears to be somewhat scattered.
Some days my frustration level almost reaches the point in which I’d just just as soon never read another commentary, column, or private teaching on anything or by anyone ever again, and just stick to the Bible. I get […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, Musings | Tagged:

Wine Drinking

Funny how many Christians try to justify their wine drniking, and what next their pornography, bad drugs too? If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men.

Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers 1 Cor 6:10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers {and} slanderers, nor extortioners {and} robbers will inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God.

We know that alcoholism is a terrible sin that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well.

Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone.

 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friends.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc..

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/and-if-the-righteous-scarcely-be-saved/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/

Rome, the Devil, and Mary  “…. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8 The father of lies. If you want proof of that truth, read what […] Filed under: Discernment, False Teachings | Tagged:  , |  http://b.1asphost.com/freelygiven/true.htm   http://b.1asphost.com/freelygiven/mary2.htm 

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