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September 10, 2008

the witchhunt against the Pentecostals backfired

 
 
 
Sarah Palin mostly dominates the national conversation by her self-identification as primarily as a REPUBLICAN,politician, a  woman, a working mom, and as a Christian. So  One wonders: WHILE SHE IS A HUMAN LIKE ALL OF US and far from perfect like the rest of us now what did Sarah Palin ever do to inspire the media, public rage and bile that exploded upon  on her selection by John McCain? What is there either in this woman’s record or resume to elicit such ferocity? Her now being a real Christian!  In History the crowd deliberately  also chose  Barabbas a known felon over Jesus Christ. “The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.” (Mat 27:21 KJV)   
 
The Devil now had missed. It all backfired. he thought that by killing Jesus Christ he had won. Instead the devil was all still  part of God’s plan for Jesus to die for the sins of mankind.. the Devil never had counted on the resurrection of Jesus Christ..
  
The Liberal media bashing of the Pentecostals has increased the Citizen’s support for Sarah Palin  and the Republicans…
  
Besides Jesus Christ many persons  have in real life  falsely, wrongfully been rejected by others, even for their personal religious beliefs. Joseph in the Bible was one of them, so was King David, the Apostles, God’s  many Prophets too.. but God alone  next was the one that placed them on a place of honor too
 
“Doug Wead The Blog    Has Sarah Palin Spoken in Tongues?  http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/has-sarah-palin-spoken-in-tongues/
 
Last night a CNN reporter asked that question of Palin’s former pastor.  The media is on the hunt and they smell a kill.  Didn’t Obama’s pastor seriously damage his cause?  Won’t Palin’s Pentecostalism hurt her?  So why does Barack Obama still seem to be in a stupor over John McCain’s pick for Vice President?  And what is the source of John McCain’s cocky smile?  Because Obama and McCain are politicians and not just your average politicians, they are among the best. The American people are getting their money’s worth in this contest.  And as politicians, they know the numbers, the numbers that the media in their supreme arrogance over anything religious, always seems to disbelieve.  John McCain .. why he is still in a race that the Democrats should have already won.  And it is why Obama is looking stunned.  According to Barna, 36% of the American public are charismatic or Pentecostal Christians.  We are talking about huge numbers, probably 80 million adults.   Consider that 24% of the American public are Catholic. 13% are African American… to be counted in this 36% you had to say that you had been “filled with the Holy Spirit” and that you believe that “the charismatic gifts, gifts such as tongues and healing, are still valid and active today.”  So the 36% Penteocstal-Charismatics are hot.  They are adult and active.   Now, here’s where it gets even more ironic.  It turns out that 33% of all Catholics are charismatic..  Most of the 33% are adults, and active.
 
 Some in the media are falling all over themselves to show that Palin is out of step with the nation, that she is a fanatic or, at least, her church is fanatical…What percentage of Americans would agree with “God Damn America” as opposed to “the charismatic gifts, gifts such as tongues and healing, are still valid and active today”? Obama was specifically attempting to peel off the Pentecostal-Charismatics from the rest of the evangelical herd.  Democrats had several meetings set up with Pentecostal leaders.  McCain had misstepped with endorsements from John Hagee and Rod Parsley, both Pentecostals.  Republican, Chuck Grassley, a Baptist, had awakened the Baptist – Pentecostal doctrinal rift by specifically targeting Pentecostal ministries in an “investigation” but exempting any Baptists.  If the Baptist-Pentecostal fracture had endured, it would have rent the last remaining base of the beleaguered presidency of George W. Bush and the melting iceberg from which the McCain team had to launch their campaign.   Now, with one decision, a VP pick, John McCain has turned it all on a dime.
 
The media rushes greedily on, thinking they have something of interest that will break McCain.  But Obama and McCain know the truth.  The more the media confidently ridicules and attacks the Pentecostal-Charismatics, the more they unite what had been a fractured Republican base and drive this massive constituency into the Republican fold.  In their ignorance, or innocence, the media will use a shotgun approach, (now here’s where their failure to do any homework on religion really hurts them) and they will end up hitting all evangelicals, not just Pentecostals.  When they attack the idea of healing for example, they make Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists and even many New Agers nervous.  Oh, yeah, there is that 33% of Catholics who will wince when media pundits laugh at Palin’s doctrines.  And when they ridicule the born again experience they blow out Baptists and fundamentalist Lutherans.
 
Thus the media will do the work that a clumsy, liberal Democrat nominee usually did in the past.  In forty years, only two Democratic nominees have won, Carter and Clinton, and both hailed from the South and understood and appealed to evangelicals.   (42% of all Americans claim to be born again Christians, which includes the Pentecostals and Charismatics.)  Barack Obama had this all figured out.  He needed the Pentecostals to balance his liberal voting record in the Senate, to make him something more than a Dukakis or Kerry.  Indeed, the head of his religious outreach is a young Assemblies of God political operator.  (Maybe the media will ask him if he has ever spoken in tongues?)
 
Sarah Palin is not qualified to be vice president because she was raised in such a church and exposed to such doctrines?  Maybe Pentecostals and Charismatics should not able allowed to operate heavy machinery or be doctors or lawyers.  Maybe 36% of the American public should be exempted from public life.
 
Obama can only pine as he watches all of his brilliant, nuanced work slip away.  It will take the most informed in the media a few days to figure this out and add a measure of balance to their reporting, to at least offer Pentecostals as much respect as they do Muslims fundamentalists but some won’t ever know what they have done. Mahatma Gandhi, once said, “He who says that religion and politics don’t mix, understands neither one.”
Do see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/betrayers-of-jesus-christ/

National Journal Contributer Does No Longer Trust ‘Elite Media’

* In Sarah Palin’s first big media interview, on September 11, Charlie Gibson of ABC News asked: “You said recently, in your old church, ‘Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.’ Are we fighting a holy war?” Palin responded: “You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.” Gibson pressed: “Exact words.”

Viewers had no way of knowing that, in fact, Gibson was distorting Palin’s meaning by leaving out critical context and thus making an unremarkable exhortation to prayer sound like a declaration of holy war. Palin had not said that the war was a task from God. She had urged her listeners to “pray” that it was a task from God. A September 3 Associated Press report by Gene Johnson distorted Palin’s meaning in exactly the same way.

* A front-page story in the September 12 Washington Post, by Anne Kornblut, was headlined: “Palin Links Iraq to Sept. 11 in Talk to Troops in Alaska.” This was misleading, as were the first two paragraphs. They implied that Palin had advanced the long-discredited “idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped Al Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.” In fact, Palin’s reasonably clear meaning was not that Saddam had a role in the 9/11 attacks but that (as the article backhandedly acknowledged) the troops would be fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq, which is related to the group that launched the 9/11 attacks.

* The New York Times did a huge (3,120-word) front-page story on February 21 implying that McCain had had a sexual affair with a female lobbyist while doing her political favors. But the article lacked strong evidence either that there had been a sexual affair or that McCain had crossed legal or ethical lines to do favors. Would The Times have printed the same story had the senator been Barack Obama or John Kerry? I doubt it.

I am also deeply skeptical when I see front-page headlines like “As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood” (Washington Post, September 14), or “Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes” (New York Times, same day). Such loaded language is a badge not of a newsroom committed to impartial investigation but of an ideological echo chamber.

http://poligazette.com/2008/09/19/national-journal-contributer-does-no-longer-trust-elite-media/

 
Political Map Shows Huge Turn Toward McCain
NewsMax.com, FL – 19 Sep 2008
There was a gigantic turn toward John McCain in the two weeks immediately after the GOP convention. In large part this was due to the Sarah Palin nomination
 
Palin attacked because she represents real change
Cumberland Times-News, MD – 19 Sep 2008
The true agents of change in this election are John McCain and Sarah Palin. There is a reason that the Democrats are attacking her viciously with lies.
 
Letter: Palin the right choice
The Grand Rapids Press – MLive.com, MI –  by Wes Dekker | Wyoming My wife and I are excited about John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin for the vice presidency. The reason? Gov.
 
A lot has been said in recent days about what foreigners think about the campaign for president in the U.S. The general message is that all foreigners hate John McCain and especially Sarah Palin, and want Barack Obama to win. Elsevier, one of the best political magazines in the Netherlands, decided to ask female politicians – members of Parliament and cabinet ministers – what they think of Palin. The answers may surprise you.  http://poligazette.com/2008/09/19/dutch-female-politicians-on-sarah-palin/
 
Readers’ Forum: Sept. 20, 2008
Terre Haute Tribune Star, IN – 19 Sep 2008
I have to give the Republican Party credit. They’ve come up with a bullet-proof pair of candidates. John McCain is a war hero (he never misses an
 

But it seems too often that the immoral, liberal media  persons wrongfully like to bash the persons who clearly have better values than them still too.  

(Psa 37:23 KJV)  The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.

(Psa 37:24 KJV)  Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.

(Rev 12:10 KJV)  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

(Rev 12:11 KJV)  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12    Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

(Rev 12:13 KJV)  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Jesus, the Apostles themselves now were falsey often bashed too but it did not stop the Christian movement, it also  rather grew under persecutions.
 
(Psa 118:22 KJV)  The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. 23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
  
 Because a person is not accepted by some it does not mean that God has abandoned them too..
 (2 Cor 4:9 KJV)  Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; 10   Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11    For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

(2 Cor 7:6 KJV)  Nevertheless God, that comforteth those that are cast down, comforted us by the coming of Titus;

(Psa 35:7 KJV)  For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.

(Psa 37:14 KJV)  The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.

(Psa 42:5 KJV)  Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance

 
see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 

 It is a complete farcical concept that the majority of the news media are fair, balanced, honest for it seems they all do have their religious, political bias, open or hidden agendas… Liberal or conservative ones as well.. Some are  openly, “blatantly abandoning their neutrality.” and they claim to be neutral reporters of the news, facts.. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
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  1. Exactly! I’m absolutely sick of the media blatantly abandoning their neutrality. Thanks for posting on my blog – http://bceagle21.wordpress.com

    Peace be with you!

    Comment by bceagle21 — September 10, 2008 @ 2:40 pm

  2. Interesting article!

    I will say this, I’m a ‘dyed in the wool’ old time Pentecostal, not a Charismatic–and yes there is a big difference. Its going on 29 years since God led me into my first Pentecostal Church and i’ve never left the teachings behind nor compromised them with the Latter-Rain, Joels Army-Dominionist teachings of the Charismatic movement.

    Governor Palin is not a Pentecostal. The Churches she has attended are more along the lines of the Charismatic/Dominionism/Joel’s Army type. At least from my research, it certainly appears to be the case.

    I am not a Democrat–and neither am i a Republican: I am a Christian. Saying that, i will tell you that many MANY in the Pentecostal Churches right now, are not happy that the media (or other Christian groups) are under the impression that all Pentecostals have jumped on the Palin/McCain bandwagon. For the truth is, especially in my area of the nation, they haven’t.

    Many of us ‘hicks’ here in KY who consider ourselves Pentecostals, saw through the reasons as to why McCain choose Governor Palin. It was an appeasement to the Christian Right, in seeking their votes…

    Others like myself, will not be voting this year. And like me, for many of my Pentecostal brethren, it will be the first time they see no candidate in which they are comfortable casting a vote for, in all their adult lifetime: I’m 60–it hurts to not vote, but the lesser of two evils is not the answer for many of us in the year 2008. Its not the answer for me.

    In fact in this election, its hard to distinguish just what party IS the lesser of two evils:

    -The democrats, who’s platform includes countless issues which any bible believing Christian, could not possibly support..

    -or The Republican candidates, one who tried to appease a portion of the Church by (obvious) manipulation, and who’s VP nominee has a dangerous dominionist background.

    As i said, many of us who consider ourselves Pentecostals will not be voting for either of the two evils.

    God bless…

    Comment by pjmiller — September 10, 2008 @ 4:51 pm

  3. The term Charismatic seems to be applied more to Catholics.. specically non pentecostal.. I am also about your age.. but i have been both Fundamental evangelical FOR ABOUT 2 DECADES, AND LATTER RAIN PENTECOSTAL FOR ABOUT 3 DECADES and I can can say there is a 180 degree difference.. one is fresh bread and the other is stale..

    >>As i said, many of us who consider ourselves Pentecostals will not be voting for either of the two evils.

    I think this now is an extreme.. and Sarah Palin is definately a good choice.,, of what is available

    There is no Bible verse that says a Ruler has to be a Christian though.. the elections are not about chosing heaven over Hell but about dealing with earthly problems.

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 10, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

  4. I am reminded by current events that “God will not be mocked”. There is new found beauty in that truth!

    Comment by Judy — September 10, 2008 @ 7:56 pm

  5. Wow! Great post. Thanks for leaving the link on our reality chicks website. You wrote an amazing article. Having faith is an amazing gift that we’re given through Christ, and politicians and the media are steppin on some major toes.

    Comment by blessed1 — September 10, 2008 @ 8:27 pm

  6. What saddens me is the fact that by not voting, people are actually both voting to make a statement and endorsing through silence both candidates. There is no middle ground in an election: one votes for one side or another, and by not voting one votes by silence and effectively throws away their vote where it matters most – the future of this country.

    God will do what He will do. But we are each responsible for our actions and lack of actions. God put us where we are so that man might find God. By silently endorsing people who murder the unborn, through not voting against them, we stand on the enemies side. By not voting, we allow others to decide our future. By not voting, we we take away a tool God could use to direct the future of this nation.

    Comment by wbmoore — September 10, 2008 @ 8:45 pm

  7. >> By silently endorsing people who murder the unborn, through not voting against them, we stand on the enemies side. By not voting, we allow others to decide our future. By not voting, we we take away a tool God could use to direct the future of this nation.

    sorry but that is mere ostrich lies and a cop out..

    Good people work within the system to try to make it better.. I do.. Joseph did and so did Daniel and others.. I pray you will see reality..

    do also see http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/too-often-women-have-been-put-down-my-men/

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 11, 2008 @ 12:26 am

  8. great, so we vote based on religion in our secular democracy that is supposed to separate church and state. i am a religious person, but i wouldn’t vote for someone just because they shared my religious beliefs. that is just irresponsible and bigoted. the end times must be near.

    Comment by Cassie — September 11, 2008 @ 1:19 am

  9. democracy that is supposed to separate church and state ??

    since when.. the lie the devil tells you.. only perverse, immoral liberals can pass and enforce laws.. dream on

    Right wing evangelicals, pentecostals now have the same rigths, free speech too as any of the others

    there was even a Roman emperor who was a professing Christian

    the Church and secular state persons will be seperate only in Hell..

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 11, 2008 @ 1:47 am

  10. Well certainly, Palin cannot be “God sent”, because she rides in on the back of so many outright LIES. She did not sell the plane on ebay for a profit but to a private campaign contributor for a LOSS and a sweetheart deal. She did not oppose the “bridge to nowhere” but actually campaigned for it. And she is no reformer, having hired a PR firm to secure $27 million for Wasilla (pop. 5500!). Nor is she a competant manager, placing Wasilla $22 million in debt with her poor judgement. How she can face hereslf in the mirror is beyond me. We should all question exactly WHO really sent her!

    Comment by bobby — September 11, 2008 @ 7:11 pm

  11. Sarah Palin and the Deborah Anointing
    After 49 million abortions since 1973, America needs a bold, Holy Ghost-filled woman to model pro-life values in the White House.

    http://fireinmybones.com/

    >> Killing babies (abortion) is a horrific sin that must stop.

    whenever I read such pretentious hypocritical statements being made by any professing Christian now I am clearly reminded that often the same persons tend not to object or preach against marital divorce that God equally hates… 30 percent of professing evangelicals practice divorce, adultery.. such real unacceptable hypocrisy too.

    http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/

    http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

    http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/killing-babies-abortion-is-a-horrific-sin-that-must-stop/

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 13, 2008 @ 5:05 am

  12. Acts 12:24 But the Word of the Lord continued to grow and spread.

    (2 Cor 1:2 KJV) Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.

    About 1000 people read this post, I got one negative response, comment from an apparently jealous Pentecostal Dallas Pastor who clearly did not like Sarah Palin getting all of the media attention.. me I am really grateful and happy for her.. but I do not talk about politics alone and separate her from her religion, her church, her practise of Christianity, her light of the world, her salt of the earth, the refreshing..

    ALL those who read my many posts know that I ADMIT I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE WORD OF GOD, THE BIBLE, TO ME IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO FUNNY HOW SO MANY PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN AND FALSELY OPPOSE THE USAGE OF THE WORD Of GOD, IT BEING SAID, OR IT BEING PUBLISHED, on the net too. Now they should see just a few of my many sites, http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome, http://pbulow.tripod.com/ , http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST they would really have a filed day of complaints., still only the word of God will change a man’s heart, not mere men’s words or mine..It will take God’s and His words to also try to change the world, not ours.. I have said openly many times before that the often visble lack of usage of the BIBLE BY CHRISTIANS ON CHRISTIAN INTERNET SITES SEEM TO INDICATE MORE THEIR REAL LACK OF SPIRITUALITY, BELIEF IN GOD AND IN HIS WORDS . I EVEN HAD ONE PERSON WRONGFULLY GO CRAZY ON ME WHEN I HAD PRINTED A BIBLE VERSE ON MY BUSINESS CARDS.

    (Deu 18:18 KJV) I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

    (Deu 18:19 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

    (Job 33:3 KJV) My words shall be of the uprightness of my heart: and my lips shall utter knowledge clearly.

    (Job 36:4 KJV) For truly my words shall not be false: he that is perfect in knowledge is with thee.

    (Psa 56:5 KJV) Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.

    (Prov 1:23 KJV) Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

    (Prov 4:20 KJV) My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

    (Prov 7:1 KJV) My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

    (Isa 51:16 KJV) And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

    (Isa 59:21 KJV) As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed’s seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

    (Jer 1:9 KJV) Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

    (Jer 5:14 KJV) Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

    (Jer 6:19 KJV) Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.

    (Jer 11:10 KJV) They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.

    (Jer 13:10 KJV) This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.

    (Jer 18:2 KJV) Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

    (Jer 19:15 KJV) Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon this city and upon all her towns all the evil that I have pronounced against it, because they have hardened their necks, that they might not hear my words.

    (Jer 23:22 KJV) But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

    (Jer 29:19 KJV) Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the LORD, which I sent unto them by my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them; but ye would not hear, saith the LORD.

    (Jer 35:13 KJV) Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Go and tell the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will ye not receive instruction to hearken to my words? saith the LORD.

    (Ezek 2:7 KJV) And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious.

    (Ezek 3:10 KJV) Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, all my words that I shall speak unto thee receive in thine heart, and hear with thine ears.

    (Micah 2:7 KJV) O thou that art named the house of Jacob, is the spirit of the LORD straitened? are these his doings? do not my words do good to him that walketh uprightly?

    (Mat 24:35 KJV) Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    (Mark 8:38 KJV) Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

    (John 5:47 KJV) But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

    (John 12:48 KJV) He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    (John 15:7 KJV) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    (Acts 2:14 KJV) But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

    There was, is absolutely nothing wrong with the posts, many people had read it and agreed with it.

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 21, 2008 @ 12:19 pm

  13. Nonconformer – honestly I’m not jealous, and didn’t mean to offend. Sorry if I did. I really thought (and think) the bible usage was wrong.

    As far as her getting attention, I honestly don’t mind either way (hey she is/was A of G like me:) Politics are politics and I think we should be responsible citizens and participate in the process but honestly, it’s gonna be the love of Christ that we believers (ministers and lay people) are gonna to take to the world – that’s what will change the world.

    Anyways, happy blogging!

    Comment by Aaron — September 21, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

  14. One wonders: What did Sarah Palin ever do to inspire the rage and bile that exploded on her selection by John McCain? What is there either in this woman’s record or resume to elicit such ferocity?

    she was a mother of five who had brought into this world a baby boy with Down syndrome, thus living her Christian beliefs. That she was a small-town conservative who had risen from mayor of Wasilla (Pop. 9,700) to be governor of a state twice the size of Texas.

    That she was a reformer who had dethroned an Old Boys’ Network by dumping a sitting Republican governor. That she had taken on Big Oil, taxed the companies and returned the money in $1,200 cheques to every citizen of Alaska. And that she had cut a deal with Canada to build a pipeline to bring natural gas to her fellow Americans.

    And, oh, yes. She was “Sarah Barracuda” — a fierce high school athlete, a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, a Feminist for Life and lifetime member of the NRA. Introduced by McCain, she praised Hillary Clinton and pledged to finish her work by smashing through the glass ceiling in which Hillary had made 18 million cracks.

    What, in any or all of this, is there to justify the feral attacks within minutes of her introduction? What had she done to cause this outburst? Answer: absolutely nothing.
    No. Sarah Palin is not resented for what she has done, but for who she is: a Christian conservative who believes unborn children are gifts of God, even those with birth defects, and have a Godgiven right to life.

    Normally, the press is reluctant to rummage into the private lives of public servants, unless their conduct affects their duties or they preach virtues they hypocritically do not practice.

    http://www.standard-freeholder.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1207522

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 21, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

  15. thenonconformer, I think you were confused by my statement.

    I said, “By silently endorsing people who murder the unborn, through not voting against them, we stand on the enemies side. By not voting, we allow others to decide our future. By not voting, we we take away a tool God could use to direct the future of this nation.”

    and you responded, “sorry but that is mere ostrich lies and a cop out.” And went on to say, “Good people work within the system….”

    How is me saying that not voting makes us stand on the enemies side a cop out? My comment was in reference to the person who had said, “Others like myself, will not be voting this year.” I was TRYING to say that we MUST vote.

    God set up a system of raising people into office that involves us voting. Who knows, it may be that by voting for McCain/Palin this time, we may actually be voting Palin, since McCain could die while in his first term in office.

    For those who complain that Palin is a liar, I say that the liberal media WANT you to believe lies so you will vote for Obama or at least not vote for McCain. It is easy to say or write things or edit video in a slanted way to make people believe certain things were said that weren’t or that the facts are different than they are. Don’t trust the liberal media.

    Pray and ask God if HE would have you not vote, or vote for McCain/Palin.

    Comment by wbmoore — September 23, 2008 @ 8:58 am

  16. I am sorry I mistook what you said..

    Yes we are to be active in social and political issues otherwise the devil wins by default

    and yes we must vote..

    Thanks for the correction

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/it-is-going-to-be-a-cold-cold-war/

    Interesting that the people in Canada are also having federal elections and the Prime Minister Stephen Harper was put in by many Chrsitian too who wrongfuly beieved he was a Christian and not another alcoholic

    http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/prime-minister-sets-our-watchdogs-on-the-press/
    http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/prime-minister-stephen-harper-and-the-federal-conservative-party-of-canada/

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 23, 2008 @ 9:10 am


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