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July 10, 2013

A shepherd, or a Hireling, thief?

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 prophecy
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MOST PEOPLE ARE GULLIBLE,IN FACT SOME SAY THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE ,
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Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the end of the world and the Battle of Armageddon as  You know, are  for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  societal oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it.
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The Basic problem also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still..
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ISN’T THE LOVE OF MONEY, THE FILTHY GREED FOR IT EVIDENT OF THESE SO CALLED PREACHERS, OR HIRELINGS WHO PROMOTE GOD’S SUPPOSED TRUTHS FOR MONEY?
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 Now don’t you think that something spiritually important as this, so essential as this, would be available freely to all rather.
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 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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Not just the Book of Daniel, but the Book of Revelation itself is now also Considered by many one  the strangest book in the Bible.  Not many people can say they they really understand it too, but for 2000 years, this book also  has been wildly popular. Why would anyone still bother with the books  book that many love to hate,  Many people also hate the Torah and Jesus’ revision of the Torah, Well the reality is that if you are a Non Christian believer, and without the Holy Spirit, you really cannot understand this book, especially in the light of the fact that one often is are reading other people’s mail, as this book was, is specially written for the born form above Christians.  First thing I too had discovered is that controversy is nothing new if the devil can help it.. He the devil really does likes tearing the truths into shreds, distorts it, so that alone should not discourage you from reading these books 
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Now  many of the most well-known undeniable New Testament prophecies about Jesus Christ himself were foreshadowed by the Old Testament prophets centuries before the birth of Christ and these require no serious reinterpretations.. including his death on a cross and his stated  beforehand resurrection  next from the dead..
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But it is those other supposed Future prophecies about the end time anti  Christ, about the Fallen Babylon, the New world Order, the supposed Restoring the nation of Israel, the supposed Rebuilding of the Jewish  temple, the Battle of Armageddon that are very doubtfully  being presented, misrepresented even   and why?
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IN REALITY ALL DOCTRINES HAVE TO BE STUDIED BY THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT . YOU HAVE TO TAKE EVERY WORD YOU HEAR AND SUBJECT IT TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE BIBLE.. MOST TEACHINGS AND PREACHING’S TODAY DO CONTAIN MAJOR FALSEHOODS THAT DO NOT LINE UP WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT;
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2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;  Titus 2:13:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,  James 5:7-9:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain.  1 Peter 5:4:4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. 1 John 2:28-3:2: 28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. Jude 1:21:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Revelation 2:25:25 But hold fast what you have till I come.
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The prophecies, about  the rise of the Antichrist and the Battle of Armageddon, were first recorded by the prophet Daniel in the sixth century B.C. where  Daniel wrote his God given prophecies during the 70 years that the people of Israel were held captive in the land of Babylon.
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Daniel himself had served as part of the royal court of King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned in Babylon from 605 – 562 B.C. The prophecies came in the form of dreams, both the king’s dreams and Daniel’s dreams. For most of the details, Daniel was personally now given the interpretation, but not all. Note that. Now the full  details about the future Antichrist, and the nations involved too, even the exact times, is not given to us by God, or in the Bible rather these days too there exist today rather  a lot of misinformation, misinterpretations, lies even.. and if God wanted us to know all the details he would have already now mentioned them specifically in the Bible. The Bible does not go into much detail about the end times because we are rather to concentrate on pour present relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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 Even Daniel himself was not given now  all the details..  Dan 30:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased…. 9  Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
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And yet many  future prophecy liars still do dare to speak to us all about  supposed future truths that God has not even revealed  to anyone yet  here too..
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Malachi 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ sope:
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Why is it so many people claim that Jesus is coming soon when no one can know the exact time even. yet. Jesus is coming back soon, even maybe today.. and already he has been coming back for 2000 years, and yes he will come back.. but why are so many wanting him to come back now, immediately? wanting to go to Heaven even? and why is it that so many of the people who claim they want to go to Heaven now , and they say they want Jesus to come back for them when clearly still, many of them  are still unwilling to Serve God here on earth firstly,  even when they are unwilling to live with Jesus  now here on earth.
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Escapism?  Deliverance or Running away? Jonah ran away from God…  Being saved is not about immediately going to Heaven, but serving Jesus firstly here on earth.. Are you even doing everything you can to serve Jesus Christ here now firstly before you go to heaven next? or are you so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly Good?
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Revelation 3: 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Revelation 21: 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and not by the Holy Spirit so they clearly here will fail at it still too. I also know some people have their minds falsely made up  about a lot of things based even on the false teaching of their denomination and it would be a great shock to their system to admit it may be wrong.. 
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Please be like the Bereans of old who “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11) with prayer and true help of the Holy Spirit.
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and while you are waiting for Jesus to come are you  serving Him now?
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2 Thessalonians 2:1.  1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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Notice that above passage states that the man of sin is to be revealed BEFORE Jesus comes and that Paul is warning Christians not to be deceived by others who teach otherwise.
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I Cor. 13:9 Paul said, “… we prophesy in part.” There are two reasons for this. One is expressed in Prov. 4:18, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” In other words, the revelation of truth is progressive and needs to be checked out, confirmed  by the Holy Spirit, the Bile, even others..
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Just because we have the Bible doesn’t mean we have all the truth at our disposal. The truth contained in the written word must be “opened” or revealed by Christ if we are to understand it and benefit. All the study in the world will not take the place of Christ opening the book and ministering living anointed truth suited to the time and need.
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Daniel, as great a man of God and yet  he was, was still even  told to shut up the words and seal the book till the time of the end. Daniel 12:4. The end times was the begging of Christ Ministry on earth and the the related New Testament development  and it’s Pentecost.. As only Christ has the authority to “open the book” (Rev. 5:1-5)
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February 1, 2009

Typical Site Searches

These are examples of some of the typical Search Words on this site
 
Symbols of the Holy Spirit
Christian and Missionary Alliance Church
What does it mean to follow Jesus 
Rev Andrew Murray 
Selling the gospel 
What does god mean by being “chosen “?
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wallpapers original
Pentecostals’ heresy
Bible wallpapers
Does God allow us to marry non Christian
The apostles of Jesus Christ 
Speeding  over the speed limit
Calgary police crooked cops
RCMP, Preston Manning,  Alberta 
Bell internet complaints
Sympatico over charging for poor service

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/
 
I am not amazed how many topics being searched are often repeated such as: speeding, crooked cops, Bell, Sympatico, marrying a non Christian,  Christian Missionary Alliance church, Chosen, Pentecostals
 
but sadly when I do see any attempts to classify all Pentecostals as non Christians, heretics, I know the user themselves clearly do  not know or read the Bible for a start.

July 22, 2008

False

 
I was shocked when I became a real Christian, not a pretend one, how my version of Christianity now differed from so many loudly professing Christians on many issues now as well such as spiritual gifts, helping poor people.
 
(Mark 3:33 KJV)  And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34   And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35   For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
 
(Mat 25:31 KJV)  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.  
 
And I had to really rightfully conclude that the others were not real Christians, were persons who did not read the whole Bible, they were not practicing the truth, the faith according to the New Testament, the whole Bible too  but they wrongfully these others they now were preaching, practicing the overly false, simplified Gospel  according to them.  They did this  because  they were hirelings, false , false teachers false prophets, false pastors, false elders, false evangelists, false deacons, a false Christian.
 
God still opposes all Churches, leader’s sins, and their human rights abuses, and the best way to deal with it is to shout it from the housetops, call the police.. expose it to all.. I do. 
 
>>And there are lots of other charities that help saints overseas. Groups like the Salvation Army have a presence in many nations.
 
Dream on..
 
 I had personally witnessed Salvation army personnel stealing for themselves what the citizens had donated to the poor, and a secretary of the organization next even confirmed it to me.. as I had detailed to major news editors in Canada. We can also know that over 70 percent of the donations tends not to reach the intended persons in most organizations, cause the overheads, corruptions, even for the empire building as well are much too high..
 
 >>Judas robbed from the treasury, but was it wrong for people to give Jesus and His disciples a donation? Should we all stop giving to groups that are making some effort to help because the targets of the donations only receive 30%?  Keep working to expose the corruption, we certainly want the crooks in those groups tossed out. But once you have a better group in place, be sure to let us know.
 
As far as a good system to give to the poor.. it is already there in the book of acts.. it is giving to the poor through your local church.. even the old testament tithe insisted that 1/7 of the tithe be given to the local poor people.  We all do have a responsibility to give firstly to the poor in our own church, neighborhood through the local church, and that is why the Deacons were set to do this. If the deacons are not doing this.. that is another issue..  and yes still we have a responsibly always still to insure the moneys is not being stolen, even in churches now too.    
           
(Acts 6:1 KJV) And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables .3   Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

(Acts 2:45 KJV) And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (Acts 4:35 KJV) And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Galatians 6:10 (New American Standard Bible) 10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.
 
Apostle Paul beyond a shadow of doubt a real Christian, who took all precautions not to give any offence, was honest, trustworthy too.. was definitely also working in helping the poor people in Rome, elsewhere, as part as his Christian Duties too now, so should all Pastors thus now too!
 
Rev George Mueller is a classical example of a faith ministry helping poor persons., and this pastor did not live high on the hog in the process too, he was not empire building, or helping himself. Mother Theresa and many others now as well.
 
In fact the whole New testament Christian church was helping the Poor Christian persons firstly not just apostle Paul, for they will know we are Christians by how we love one another, not our mere words still too– he Paul was just a delivery boy on behalf of the Christian Church, And all pastors need to help the poor people in their church, all churches too.. Jesus Christ cared for the poor people! yes he fed them, healed them, delivered them too. and all very much unlike these days where the evangelical leaders live high on the hog, and their churches especially seems to be too self centered, have falsely abdicated their duties, roles falsely in helping the poor people.. but seem too readily even these days to steal the tithe..
 
Undeniably 1/7 of the tithe was to be given directly to the local poor people, can any local evangelical, catholic church , even the cult Mormon prove in fact that they do this? The tithe itself also could not be used for paying of mortgages, nor can any person owning any tangible property- real estate , even supposedly poor person or a Christian worker received any portion of the tithe now as well… just as these same principles are applied to persons receiving social welfare from the governments too.
 
The priests themselves in the book of Malachi themselves now by God were rightfully accused of abusing, or stealing God’s tithes , and that happens too often theses days now still in the churches. I had many an evangelical pastor tell me they would kick me out of their church if I preached any of this above in their church too. I have even seen evangelical pastors often steal directly myself and reported it too.
 
Yes my main point was the Godly, Biblical pattern for giving to the poor people set forth for giving to the poor people was definitely through the church still, if the LOCAL church is not doing it, it is time to get the LOCAL church in order.
 
and I for certainly and now on many, many occasions I do not trust rightfully the Salvation Army to do this, especially since they too often clearly have departed from the faith, and employed ungodly believers to do their work too often too. Nor even the Christian Missionary Alliance church and rightfully as well and I have detailed on my sites why too.
  
I had also noted in the past from a study of events band history that the most lasting efforts, contributions were those that involved the Church directly… which now includes shelters, hospital and university too and worldwide. Famous university, hospitals were originally started by Christian organizations, churches, in Canada and the US now too, both Catholic and protestant ones too.                        
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-christian-evangelical-corporation-and-social-action/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
  
And where local churches who don’t have the infrastructure to help poor people in their church should establish one.. and yes they can send money to another church they can really trust to do this too in another country to help the poor people there.. it is an still unacceptable sin how much too often now the donations are too often abused. We as Christians have to be diligent to see next also how the money is obeying spent, not just in donating it.
 
>> In scripture, aid went to the saints according to their need, not location.    
 
this is a distortion of the truth to me.. all poor people need to be helped, locally firstly.
  
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV) But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
  
(1 Tim 5:9 KJV) Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man, 10  Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints’ feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.
 
(Acts 6:3 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
  
I think that we are to take care of the local poor Christian Brethren in our own church first and even also help the unsaved elsewhere next also does not mean we do stop giving firstly to our own family members..but just giving to our own family is not enough..Job also helped everyone he could starting locallyA person’s attiude to the poor and to money shows in reality a lot of what their Christianity is really like too and where are these honest men in the local churches today? they are not all to be like the Apostle Judas. They are to be unlike most of the TV evangelists, big Ministries too, who live high on the hog, drive nice cars, live in expensive mansions and this is never acceptable still to God for sure, I know! for he told me so too!!
 
And hey it was in Alberta, Canada  that I saw, met, witnessed the most crooked pastors, evangelicals, even the Baptist, Alliance, Salvation Army, and i never saw so many crooked bad pastors in one place too.. but next saw them in other cities in Canada now too.. I saw pastors steal directly in Calgary too, and often.
 
I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counseling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counseling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.  But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well. 

It has always been shocking to me when someone had personally said to me the pastor has abused me.. he was unkind, unloving, he even lied.. for that is the last place I have expected to find an abusive persons, a pastor of a Church.

 IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops
 
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

 

 
I was really surprised that most evangelical, Pentecostal  pastors in Alberta too are control freaks too.. who even meddle into homes now too.. other person’s  lives..
 
THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”
 
and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize, preach  AND PRACTICE this still too.
 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
 
It has been also my experience that when you stand up for God, his truths, Satan immediate will oppose it..  (Mat 16:23 KJV)  But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.   
 
(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. 
 
 
Do see also

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

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