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WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. now there is no biblical substantiation for Dispensationalists, Eternal security, Zionism, Messianic Jew too https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/
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“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV
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“Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4
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In the 1830’s a false supposedly Christian movement erupted that was led by John Nelson Darby, called generally the “Plymouth Brethren”. One of the main leaders of the Plymouth Brethren in Plymouth, England was a lawyer named John Nelson Darby. Darby became the “Father of Dispensationalism”, and used the teachings on Daniel 9 by the Jesuits Ribera and Bellarmine as the foundation of his rapture teaching. Among other beliefs, the group emphasizes sola scriptura, the belief that the Bible is the supreme authority for church doctrine and practice over tradition. They do not speak about the holy spirit rather too often.. I wonder why? “Brethren assemblies” are commonly perceived as being divided into at least two branches, the “Open Brethren” and the “Exclusive Brethren”. Both tend to be false. The Brethren have suffered many subsequent splits. Some groups have abandoned earlier principles, such as rejection of a salaried ministry and insistence on women’s silence.. those assemblies that have abandoned these principles, by allowing paid ministry and allowing women to teach openly from the pulpit, are often referred to as “Bible” churches a false title as they clearly do not follow the whole new Testament even, and with its emphasis on the centrality of the Lord’s Supper they still rarely do engage in joint efforts with other Christians in their communities or allow them to participate in the Lord’s supper..
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In America, the designation of the building in which Open Brethren assemblies meet most often include the word “Chapel” in their formal name, combined with a biblical place name or principle or otherwise a local geographic feature—for instance, Ebenezer Gospel Chapel, Park Road Bible Chapel, Riverview Believers Chapel. But unlike many other Christian groups, the names of Christian saints, (e.g. Paul, Luke) are rarely or never used. The Closed groups, however, avoid “taking a name” to their group. A Closed group building is referred to as a “Meeting Room” or “Gospel Hall”, and the word “Chapel” is avoided. When you encounter them they tend to falsely hides, not disclose who they are but pretend to be solely Christians.. They do give false adherence to their own “Creeds” and “Confessions of Faith” and admittance to their memberships is not accepted freely. A distinctive practice of the Brethren is a separate weekly Communion meeting, referred to as the “Breaking of Bread” or “The Lord’s Supper”. Non Brethren are Nonbelievers who also are not to partake of the “Breaking of Bread”. Most assemblies do not encourage visitors, strangers to take Communion, so often it is the custom of those who are travelling to take with them a “letter of introduction” so they might be permitted to take Communion away from their home assemblies. These letters are typically read aloud to those present at the “Remembrance Meeting”.
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Plymouth Brethren embrace the most extensive form of that idea in that there is no ordained or unordained person or group employed to function as minister(s) or pastor(s) But they do have local ruling elders and teachers.. Plymouth Brethren groups generally ppractise that not all of the believers are suited to give public ministry such as teaching and preaching especially non Brethrenites. Traditionally, the assemblies deny speaking and teaching roles to women, except when working with children or with other women. Some women may also be full-time workers, but their efforts are often limited to these mentioned areas or to supporting roles. Women are generally not allowed to participate in individual speech during the “Breaking of Bread” meeting (i.e., gathering). – some more liberal chapels allow women to take part on an equal footing to men, others do not. In recent years some American assemblies have loosened the rules on women participating, such as women singing special music during the “family Bible hours” at their assemblies, though others have reacted by placing more emphasis on this traditional teaching. Ironic that these denied women tend to rile over their husbands at home instead to compensate.
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Most assemblies do not have instrumental accompaniment to hymns and songs sung during the “Remembrance Meeting” but instead have men who “start the hymns” (choosing a tune, tempo, pitch and key and singing the first few words, with the rest joining in shortly thereafter In some rare groups, musical accompaniment may be used at the other meetings (i.e., gatherings). This is not a normal Christian church for sure. Prayers for personal healing are rarely practiced now as well even though this is a biblical requirement.. Healing is considered a demonic ebvent as God doe snto heal according to them anymore, nor do the gift of speaking in toungues extsts anymore.
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James 5:15 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins..
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1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
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Of course they can always falsely justify their non Christian doctrines and behaviors.. Many leaders of the contemporary evangelical movement came from Brethren backgrounds is a false statement. for the fact is that these Brethren are not real Christians..
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Now Darby taught many false things such as Dispensationalist, Zionism, Rapture, eternal security, the cessation of the miracles and the Holy Spirit gifts too. . By 1909, Darbyism had infiltrated America. That year, Cyrus Scofield published his famous Scofield Bible. In the margin notes, Scofield readily accepted the dispensationalist teachings of J.N. Darby, and some of the other lies . As can be expected, by the middle of the 1900’s, too many students graduating from America’s seminaries were well indoctrinated in both the Jesuit lies of Arminius, and the Dispensationalist hogwash of J.N. Darby. By the end of that century, too many churches in America taught some level of Arminianism and the predominant eschatological view was of a future rapture followed by a seven-year tribulation. Both concepts were openly and clearly also Jesuit concepts pushed by the Society of Jesus in order to counter the Doctrines of Grace.
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“But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.
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“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
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Dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, lie against the Pentecostals Christians too even in envy it seems cause they the Pentecostals undeniably are it seems one of the fastest growing group today in Christianity. These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too.
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DISPENSATIONALSIM , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING FROM THE JEWS AS WELL BY NOT ASKING THEM TO REPENT, OR TO SEE THEIR NEED OF ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR MESSIAH, SAVIOR. TRULY A DIABOLICAL THEOLOGY.
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So it is not surprising it also was created by a too typical bad lawyer too now.
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(Deu 11:14 KJV) That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil.
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(Job 29:23 KJV) And they waited for me as for the rain; and they opened their mouth wide as for the latter rain.
(Prov 16:15 KJV) In the light of the king’s countenance is life; and his favour is as a cloud of the latter rain.
(Jer 3:3 KJV) Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore’s forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.
(Joel 2:23 KJV) Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
(Zec 10:1 KJV) Ask ye of the LORD rain in the time of the latter rain; so the LORD shall make bright clouds, and give them showers of rain, to every one grass in the field.
(James 5:7 KJV) Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
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Imagine trying to build a whole theological central base on a few isolated Bile texts too now and now today, even Jacob and the Brethren too, so he Jacob – Israel who tried to get God’s blessing by deceit with the help of others is still at it today, refusing to admit that the blessings of God now, today, forever are only in, and through Jesus Christ the Messiah, he is trying to steal his own salvation and the promsied land now.
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(Gen 27:19 KJV) And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me.
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The dispensationalist’s claims implicitly does involve them, God in duplicity and Christ in deception and thus no way can they be acceptable works of any REAL, professing Christians
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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even. https://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal experience they still have never even had..
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.” where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.” Which most often is the case. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/
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It seems strange to me that the Lord would not reveal, by the Holy Spirit, a teaching which the end-time prophets of today preach as a foundational dogma and a forgone conclusion. Not until 1831 was this “new truth” revealed and not until the 20th century was it popularized. How is it that the Apostles and the Early Fathers overlooked such an important eschatological event? Why is it not clearly spelled out in the Scriptures? The obvious answer is this: THE DOCTRINE KNOWN AS THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH DOES NOT EXIST! Like all other heresies it was and is the invention of men, not the teaching of the Church. Rather than listen to the doctrines of men, let us pay extremely close attention to our Lord’s own words in the Gospels. When Jesus taught His Apostles about His glorious 2nd coming, these are the words He used: “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:27)”. In the book of Acts, St. Luke tells us that when Jesus ascended into heaven, and the Apostles were gazing upward as the Lord rose among the clouds, two men in white apparel (presumed to be angels) said these words: “Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven (Acts 1:11)”. We are told here in Holy Scripture that exactly in the same way Jesus ascended into heaven He will return to earth. In other words, He will return in the clouds in the sky. That description doesn’t sound like a “secret catching away” but rather a dynamic 2nd coming! To be sure, there will be a catching away of the saints on earth but this happens at the last trumpet sound (Revelation 11:15). Writing to the Christians in Thessalonica, St. Paul tells us what the 2nd coming (Greek- parousia) is like. “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore, comfort one another with these words (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)”. The same words are used here to describe the catching up of Christians as is used to describe the 2nd coming of the Lord. Both occur in the clouds, in the air, and everyone on earth sees it happen. In other words, the so-called Rapture and the 2nd coming of Christ will happen at the same time. . Perhaps the most vivid picture of our Lord’s 2nd coming to earth is found in the words of St. John the Apostle. In the book of Revelation he writes: “Behold, He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, amen (Revelation 1:7)”. Far from believing that the Lord will return “secretly” to rapture the Church 7 years before His 2nd coming, St. John says that every human being on earth will see the Lord descend from the clouds. Once again, here are the words of the Nicene Creed, the symbol and statement of faith for all Christians: “He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kindgom shall have no end.” The 2nd coming of our Lord Jesus Christ shall be in glory, not in secret. Then the Prince of Peace shall establish true peace, joy, and righteousness on the earth; “For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea (Habakkuk 2:14)”.
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Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies of Israel and the Church. It also unacceptably tries falsely to explain away the relevance of the gifts of the holy spirit today. It is not a coincident that too many Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO. Evangelical Dispensationalists do also still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, following the teaching of men, an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/
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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:
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Some persons recognize and treasure all born again believers who operate within a dispensational framework as brothers and sisters in Christ. whereas IN FACT IN ANY CHURCH IT SEEMS ONLY 30 PERCENT OF THE PERSONS AT THE MOST ARE REAL, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY IN THE BRETHREN CHURCHES TOO
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However, we must remember that Paul loved his fellow apostle Peter and esteemed him the senior and more honored of the two of them. Nevertheless, when it came to a point of theology that had profound implications for the purity and health of the Church, Paul was constrained by his love for Christ and the Truth publicly to withstand Peter to his face. (Galatians 2:11)
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Therefore, out of love Like the Bereans nearly two thousand years ago, let us “search the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things are so.”
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Speaking of men,,
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James Barr states: But whatever may be said about its creativity, when it is considered as a statement of Christian truth…it can scarcely be doubted that dispensational doctrine is heretical and should be counted as such, if the term ‘heresy’ is to have any meaning. If dispensationalism is not heresy, then nothing is heresy (Ibid., p.588).
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Of the Scofield Reference Bible, John Wick Bowman says, “This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles” (Ibid., p.588).
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John H. Gerstner, in his 1991 book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, states emphatically and without mincing words:
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What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation….If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say that it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation (p.150).
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Ernest Reisinger states in his article, “A History of Dispensationalism in America”: All honest Dispensationalists would agree that the Dispensational system of theology has a different view of the grace of God, the law of God, the church of God, the interpretation of the Word of God and the salvation of God. That is, its teachings are different from tested, respected historic creeds and confessions …. Dispensationalism has a different view of living the Christian life of sanctification and, more specifically, how justification and sanctification are inseparably joined together in the application of God’s salvation (p.3)
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See also “The John Darby Versionn: Dispensationally Manipulated.” http://libertytothecaptives.net/darby_version_corrupt_methodically.html
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Of special interest to some might be Cyrus Scofield’s blatant occult marking on his 1917 Reference Bible. Scofield associated the cross of Jesus Christ with at-one-ment. http://libertytothecaptives.net/scofield_at-one-ment.html
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Like John Darby, Scofield the adulterer, convicted fellon, had removed damned, damnation and hell from the Bible: http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_removed_damned.html
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But what had really surprised me most of all besides how they the Plymouth Brethren do falsely abuse others is as to how many Brethren preachers actually lie, practice deceit, and it is so easy to find it too, when you look for it, and do start to verify everything they say, write too to determine now whether what was said it is so, true or false , even as per the Bible.
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When a Brethren preacher is even trying to justify the Brethren belief and puts something ridiculous like this in writing.. “Most Conservative scholars agree with him”.. the term “Most conservative scholars” means nothing, that is so vague of a useless, false generalization now still too, and in reality most of them do not agree even with each other to start off, dispensationalist ones included.. for not only do they they rather rarely agree or have the same views, beliefs on dispensationalist, the whole Bible too but in fact since the early days the Brethren undeniably have often had church fights, splits not just over dispensational points, but over now many other issues too. The only thing we can agree in unity, harmony is that they often do serioulsy disgree with each other, others too.
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Or when the Brethren preacher continues the Brethren deceits, distortions by saying.. the Brethren believe only in 5 in simple doctrines, and firstly what did he fall out of a tree and damage his brains? By their own admissions often it seems you need many many commentaries, dictionaries, books, knowledge of the Greek, theological degrees, and loads and loads of explanations.. to try to basically, simply grasp what Dispensationalist means and next also what their version of Prophecy means .. and loads of work even now to try to grasp if Brethrenism itself is even at all Biblical now too. Thier beliefs now are Plain and Simple? never, not by a long shot.
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There are several basic, ground rules in proper Bible interpretation that must be followed by all persons now before anyone even attempts to fully study the Holy Scripture. The first rule is pray and ask the Holy spirit to guide you, to teach you.. not rather self, mere men or women.. we should seek first and not last the Holy Spirit for illumination. The Holy Spirit wants to share the treasures of God’s Word with those who rightfully do esteem Him. The most important principle to remember in studying God’s Word is that it can only be understood with the help of the Holy Spirit. Those who approach the Bible without the Holy Spirit to teach them, may gain some insight into truths, their lives, but also will receive no definite, permanent, important life-changing revelation. Bible Commentaries should be used only very sparingly if at all. Even the most anointed man or woman, preacher of God clearly still can be wrong, biased, have a hidden agenda, limited, (or just shallow) in their understanding or interpretation of certain Bible topics, subjects. Do not believe any man or women, rather solely Take God’s word for it.
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While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking.
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Dispensationalism had it’s origination among the Plymouth Brethren in the early 1830’s. The father of dispensationalism, John Nelson Darby, educated as a lawyer and ordained Anglican priest, was one of the chief founders of the Plymouth Brethren movement, which arose in reaction against the perceived empty formalism of the Church of England. Next Dispensationalists have long been rightfully accused of teaching multiple methods of salvation. Dispensationalists FALSELY view Israel and the church as having distinct eternal destinies. Israel will receive an eternal earthly Kingdom, and the church an eternal heavenly Kingdom. In contrast, Christian theology has always maintained the essential continuity of Israel and the church. The elect of all the ages are seen as one people, one sole Church now, with one Savior, one destiny, Heaven..
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So they are dead now even on two accounts.. Denying the present role, works of the Holy Spirit, and their lack of good works by faith, their unloving acts towards the others.
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The Brethren boasted, from their very beginning in the nineteenth century, that their teachings represented a wide departure from the doctrines of their predecessors and contemporaries. So it was not surprisingly the Brethren movement was both refuted and rejected rightfully now by the majority of professing real Christians even todate where the realted dispensationalism rightfully is something to be avoided like the plague.
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Their false doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, can be clearly seen for what it is, false, by anyone who has a knowledgeable grasp of the New Testament. It is those persons ignorant of the scriptures, those persons not in their Bibles who are the ones so easily deceived by them still too.
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Rev George Muller, famous founder of the Bristol orphanage, was one of the best-known early Plymouth Brethren figures . Mr. Muller also had a public falling-out with Darby. Those who sympathized with Darby became the “Closed Brethren” and those who sided with Muller were known as “Open Brethren.” The two strains of Brethrenism endure even today. A It was Rev George Mueller who had introduced D L Moody to the Plymouth Brethren, and it seems when George Muller of Bristol came up against the Dispensationalist doctrines of the Brethren movement, he severed all connection with it.
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The dispensationalists falsely divided the whole Scriptures in terms of categories of people: Jew, Gentile, and Christian. Where Chafer taught that the only Scriptures addressed specifically to Christians were the gospel of John, Acts, and the Epistles! Pettengill taught that the Great Commission was for the Jews only. Scofield taught that the Lord’s prayer was a Jewish prayer and ought not be recited by Christians. Along with much of the New Testament, the Old Testament was described as “not for today.” Christian.” Christians were even falsely now mocked by them as legalists for believing in the Ten Commandments! This false segmentation of the Bible makes dispensationalism a cult.
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The Open Brethren, Plymouth brethren simply and with limitations affirms the Bible as the inerrant Word of God; the Trinity; the depravity of man, and the necessity of salvation by grace through faith; the church is composed of all true believers ( Brethren only) in Jesus Christ; two ordinances, baptism by immersion and the Lord’s Supper; the security of the believer (once a person is truly a child of God, that status is secure for all time); and pretribulation premillennialism (that is, Christ will return before the tribulation and before the millennium.) Brethren assemblies (independent congregations) are usually led by locally appointed elders recognized by the local congregation. Assemblies tend also celebrate a weekly communion service, at which only approved Members, appointed men only are encouraged to speak or pray. Women are clearly not allowed to participate. Fellowship with like-minded Christians such as InterVarsity Fellowship are rare acceptance as a part of evangelicalism , and very characteristic of Brethren they forbid, and do not fellowship with other Christians such as Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals, Charismatic’s, etc., for whom they seem to have no use for. Tend to declare war on them too.
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Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections seem to like to bash the Catholics. Charismatic, Pentecostal Christians too now. The seem to be a english speaking white man’s club too.
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Dispensational theology is an intricate web of deceit with various teachings.
“A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth” (Proverbs 14:6)
The Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsey to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! In the Western world today, too many Brethren Christians dare not walk openly or share their faith “for fear of the Jews” and others , but not all of them. (Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/the-revisionists/
Plymouth Brethren it seems they like to hide from what they really are and teach.. They say the want to be known as the “No Name Christian Church”, but they are often called “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like. The history books often refer to them as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement. This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth.
While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking. It is impossible to give a concise, succinct definition of Dispensationalism today because of the many changes among dispensational teachers. There is more than one view of Dispensationalism today. Therefore, the old definition found in the Scofield Bible is no longer accurate or adequate: “A dispensation is a period of time during which a man is tested in respect of obedience to some specific revelation of the will of God” (Scofield Reference Bible, p. 5, note 4 )so it is impossible to give a concise and succinct definition of Dispensationalism, and if Darby, Scofield, or even Chafer were to return today, they would be bewildered by the widely divergent stances of those still called dispensationalists. So clearly Dispensationalism cannot be defined as a return to the new testament biblical, beliefs, doctrines any longer too. “Darby and many others Brrthren had held that the church of God would escape the days of the end [i.e., the days of the great tribulation]; Newton, Tregelles, George Müller, and others believed the church will go through that period; R. C. Chapman, Groves, and Lady Powerscourt thought that not all believers will share in the first resurrection and the millennial kingdom…. “
Because of the dogmatic insistence of Darby and his followers that others heed their instructions, which they felt to be the Spirit’s leading, they reaped divisions in abundance
Too many relgious groups who still do teach unacceptable falsehoods try to proclaim also that they are real Christians other wise who would even listen to them ,even their false Gospel of the dispensational method of interpretation of the Bible. Yes many other relgious groups falsey also try to say that they are Christians now including the clearly false cults of Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses, and the other even once called real Christians Churches who have basically departed from the true faith in Jesus Christ such as the Anglican, the Catholics, Mennonites and some of the others too.
The false churches and Cults are classic experts in brainwashing techniques. Jehovah’s Witnesses is another cult that uses brainwashing techniques with great success. Any member who dares to leave the organization is shunned by close family members, and this intimidation is as intense as one can possibly imagine. Divorce, isolation, Shunning is a masterful false bondage technique.
Another false group are the Messianic Jews. The modern day Judaizers in the Christian church are those in the “Torah Keeper” movement. Many Christian churches falsely teach that the old testament Commandments also do apply today. This false doctrine of theirs is not baffling since they want to falsely keep and exalt their old culture, cultural beliefs, and are not willing to pay the price to follow after Jesus Christ alone, and all of the Scripture written by the Apostle Paul for the church today is clearly against it too. They come up with twisted explanations and they clearly also now do fall into false teaching. They falsely believe that legalism is the only method possible for a person to resist a sinful lifestyle. These church Pastors, Ministers and Reverends ignore the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit in the born again believer. The Apostle Paul taught that legalism is doomed to failure. Submitting to the guidance of the Holy Spirit actually fulfills the requirements of the ritual, sacrificial Law too. Legalistic preachers typically don’t accept repentance from members in the church. The repentant member is simply kicked out no matter what he does. This unbiblical practice of expecting all members to be perfectly sinless leads to denial of sin throughout the congregation. The denial of sin results in a sinful pride, a pattern of lying and a refusal to admit or repent of anything. All legalists lead people away from the gospel and away from Christ by focusing on their legalistic false doctrines and works instead of the gospel.”
Dispensationalists like also to teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the Church, because they not only want to corrupt, influence other Christians it would be unthinkable for them to admit they have false doctrines, and can be rightfully excluded from the true believers in Jesus Christ.
Dispensational theology breaks Scripture into separate parts (really into separate revelations), each applicable for a limited time and a limited audience. The growth of DISPENSATIONALISM coincided with a break away church that supported a supposedly changing, accommodating, developing God. Dispensationalists denies the contractual covenant duties of the people of God. Dispensationalists holds that the complete Old Testament was no longer binding. DISPENSATIONALISM also falsely teach that the teachings of the the New testament Gospels are not binding to any Christians because they rather pertain to the future. Dispensationalists falsely also say Christ’s death was His alternative plan “B” after the Jewish people rejected His attempt to establish His earthly Kingdom, and that He will come back and try it again later. Dispensationalists also falsely try to tells the true church that we are in a parenthesis, a holding period, until Christ returns to set up His Jewish Kingdom and Israel is the center fold of the Bible.. While Jesus himself had said my kingdom is not of this world.. DISPENSATIONALISM was, and is a false foundation on which the believers in the church can only be led astray from the truth of God, and his word to us.
The three general views of Dispensationalism:
-There is what is called hyper-Dispensationalism. One of their distinctives is the teaching that the Church did not begin until the middle of the Book of Acts.
-There are those who are called classical dispensationalists. C.I. Scofield, Lewis Sperry Chafer and others of the old school would come under this designation. They held that Israel is on earth and the Church is in heaven and the twain shall never meet.
-The neo-dispensationalist view is promoted by such leaders as Charles C. Ryrie, Dwight Pentecost and Zane Hodges. They hold that the Church and Israel shall come together after the millennium. They differ from the old dispensationalists, in that they teach that saints in the Old Testament were saved by faith.
Each of these views has many distinctives and differences from the others, and it is not at all a basic, simple, straightforward, unified belief, Gospel as the Brethren try too often to mislead others to believe in too.
While the Plymouth Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word … they have clearly seem to like to eradicate, explain away the Bible references to personal judgement, reaping, sins, Hell, damnation, and I often still do wonder why? what are they hiding? are fearful of? the real truth? It is true that there have been many dispensationalists who have not embraced selective-resurrection or chastisement at the judgment seat.
Most Christians still don’t seem to realize that because of Israel’s disobedience, God is finished with national Israel. Let’s look at what Jesus had to say to the nation of Israel:
Matthew 21:18-19 Now in the morning, when He returned to the city, He became hungry. 19 And seeing a lone fig tree by the road, He came to it, and found nothing on it except leaves only; and He said^ to it, “No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you.” And at once the fig tree withered.
In reality The Church Is the full replacement for Israel Now. That sums up the heart of real, valid theology, that the Christian church is heir of the promises to and the responsibility of the Hebrew nation of old. When God blessed Abraham in Genesis 22:17—18, He promised: “[T]hy seed shall posses the gate of his enemies.” In Matthew 16:18, after Peter confessed faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Christ said, “[U]pon this rock [this profession of faith] I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Abraham’s seed was promised the gate of his enemies, and then Christ promised His church they would occupy the gates erected by hell itself. Another aspect of that promise to Abraham was that in Him all nations would be blessed. That blessing is Jesus Christ and His salvation. But who is now commanded to teach and baptize “all nations” in the Great Commission? The church, the people of Jesus Christ, who are heirs of Abraham’s faith.
There is a great disagreement within Christiandom as to who the “Israel of God” is. Does this refer to the nation Israel or to the Church of Jesus Christ? How you answer this question is very important. If you are going to understand the Bible and its promises, you must understand who “Israel” is. What we believe influences how we behave. What Christian leaders teach about the Jews and Arabs influences how Christians view the events unfolding in the Middle East. I also believe that there is a direct connection between the church’s view of Israel and terrorism. A wrong view of Israel affects the foreign policy negatively also. Because of the even false Dispensationalism and the false Christian Zionism, most American Christians believe that we have a biblical mandate to stand with and protect Israel in spite of any of the unacceptable bad things Israel itself now does too The Dispensationalist, as well as the Zionist, falsely believes that the nation of Israel is still God’s chosen people, the sole inheritors of God’s promises, and that to be a part of Israel, one must be of the proper lineage and nationality. Zionism is not a Christian Movement but a political movement built on the belief that the Jewish people still do deserve by right to possess all of the land of Palestine . Israel too as their own. Christian Zionism is essentially a Christian prophetic support for Zionism; seeing the modern state of Israel, and the equivalent of the old testament biblical Israel. Christian Identity teaches a similar idea that Israel is actually composed of the descendants of the ten “lost tribes” that became the Anglo-Saxon and Germannic peoples. According to this view, to be a part of “Israel,” one must be of this fleshly lineage. There is absolutely no new testament reverences, verses of support for any of this This is all unbiblical per the New testament now as well, for, just as with Dispensationalism, the emphasis is placed upon the flesh and temporal, instead of upon the Spirit and the eternal. Put another way, according to these systems of doctrine, the focus is taken from the cross of Jesus Christ, and is instead placed upon the merits of man. And that makes it all false too. http://www.preteristplanet.com/id79.html
There are too many false evangelical religious groups who try to seduce others by their false MISLEADING STATEMENTS.
When someone one says to me, others, on the net that they believe the Bible is the word of God, they believe Jesus is God and He is an equal part of the Trinity, they believe in the Holy spirit now as being a person as well, but they next do deny falsely the existence of the the Holy Spirit’s spiritual, charismatic gifts, they now are still lying, falsely playing on words, because you cannot accept Jesus Christ and reject the Holy Spirit and his gifts. The Holy Spirt is the Spirit of Christ. Thus they really are not Christians, for how could the Holy Spirit now be even guiding them and leading them into all truth when they cannot be led by him into these basics even.. rather they are being led by the devil, others, mere men, and not God undeniably still too.
The hypocritical Plymouth brethren falsely want to maintain that they are Christians, a part of the Body of Christ Universal , when it is also clearly undeniable they are nor only the the dispensationalists. Plymouth brethren and the dispensationalists, Plymouth brethren also falsely do bash, try to discredit, do abuse the Pentecostal Christians who they falsely claim now are not even Christian. Not one persons in decade has even rightfully showed me why I am not a Christian even though I am also a Pentecostal one too now.
Dispensationalists who now say that salvation is wholly of God by grace on the basis of the redemption of Jesus Christ, the merit of His shed blood, and not on the basis of human merit or works falsely exclude any future personal; accountably too.
The brethren falsely would like us to belief that even the en commandments are not applicable to us today, and yet James judges the belief, the applicable faith of other supposedly Christians by them still too.
James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath showed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
(Mat 19:16 KJV) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
Instead of rightfully here too taking Jesus words at face value, like they do with too many things, the Brethren have their own false re explanations, interpretations..
(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
(Gal 6:8 KJV) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
(Gal 6:9 KJV) And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
(Gal 6:10 KJV) As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
The rather first Christian dispensationalist we seem to tend to know is the heretic Apostle Judas even one of the 12 original Apostles
(Mat 13:22 KJV) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
(Mark 4:19 KJV) And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
(John 8:23 KJV) And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
(John 18:36 KJV) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
(1 Cor 1:20 KJV) Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
(1 Cor 2:6 KJV) Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
(1 Cor 3:19 KJV) For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
(1 Cor 7:31 KJV) And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
(2 Cor 4:4 KJV) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
(Eph 2:2 KJV) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
(Eph 6:12 KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
(Rev 11:15 KJV) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
(Rev 1:5 KJV) And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.
(Rev 19:10 KJV) And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
(Rev 22:16 KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
(Rev 22:20 KJV) He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
(Rev 22:21 KJV) The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
I also came to the conclusion that the King James Bible is the best version available in the English language today for Bible study, easy reference too. The Bible publishing world is presently involved in a high stakes monetary race to come out with, so called, “newer and better” versions of the English Bible. And, what is their motive? There are countless versions of the English Bible on store shelves today. Is the English language changing so fast that we need a newer translation than the one that came out last month or last year? I think not. They seem to like to push a different doctrine, and have just as many errors next it seems as they one they had originally claimed to try to correct.
I also do believe that God inspired the original writings of the Bible, which are called the autographa. There are many verses that teach this. Here are two key verses that I want you to see…
The more important Question is, do you and I really believe it is the word of God or are you looking for another Bible translation to justify some of your immoral acts, and/or wrong beliefs still too?!
2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation (that is, they did not originate with man). 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
But, there is also the matter of verbal preservation of the apographa (copies of the originals). I believe that God has preserved His Words in the copies of those original writings in the Hebrew Masoretic Text of the Old Testament and the Traditional Text (Textus Receptus) of the New Testament.
I have FAITH that the God who inspired the original autographs can and did preserve the apographs so that we can say, “Thus saith the Lord; This IS the Word of God” when we hold up our King James Bibles.
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In the Pentecostal churches. the biggest distinction setting them apart from the other Protestant churches is their practice of speaking in tongues as a sign of anointing and “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” – a special experience following salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service.. Yes the Assemblies of God churches teach that the initial physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues, as experienced on the Day of Pentecost in the book of Acts and in the Epistles.
Another distinct practice of Pentecostals is the laying of hands, for Holy Spirit empowering and the “miraculous healing” by the power of the Holy Spirit. As the same faith in Jesus Christ that saves also can heal the person but there are no documented cases of visibly evident healing like restored limbs, or restored teeth, since one reaps also what one sows. The divine healing of the sick is a privilege for all real Christians today and is provided for in Christ’s atonement.
Other rightful Fundamental Beliefs, Truths
– They believe that any believers can fall from grace as a result of persistent, unrepentant sin or choose to go to hell by their own free will.
– All of the Scriptures are inspired by God.
-They believe there is One True God revealed in three persons.
– They believe in the the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.
– They believe in man willingly fell into sin – ushering in evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.
– They believe every person can be restored to fellowship with God through accepting Christ’s offer of forgiveness and salvation.
– They believe in Water Baptism by immersion after salvation,
– They believe in the Holy Communion as a symbolic remembrance of Christ’s suffering and death for our salvation.
– They believe in t the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a special experience following salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service.
– They believe in the the initial evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues as experienced on the Day of Pentecost.
– They believe in the sanctification initially occurs at Salvation, but is also a progressive lifelong process.
– They believe in the church has a mission to seek and save all who are lost in sin.
– They believe in the a divinely called and God ordained leadership ministry serves the church.
– They believe in a New Jerusalem, a new heavens and a new earth that Christ is preparing for all people who have accepted Him.
– They believe in the Blessed Hope when Jesus openly not in secret raptures his church upon his return to Earth.
– They believe i in the millennial reign of Christ when Jesus returns with his saints at his second coming and begins his rule over earth for 1,000 years.
– They believe in the in a final judgment for those who have rejected Christ which is hell.
– They believe in the physical ressurrection of the dead, resurrection of our original earthly bodies in heaven
Do see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/?s=dispensationalists
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sole-gospel/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
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