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May 26, 2008

Vain

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(James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

I was complaining to God that there are so many conflicting views on the Rebuilding of the nation of Israel, the Rapture, etc, too, and how it was really hard to know the truth when God spoke to me and said..  
 
(2 Tim 2:15 KJV)  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17  And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18  Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20  But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21  If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work. 22  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23  But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 10  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 
 
We all do still have our personal responsibility now to study the Bible more fully even if more serious work is required.. to even be able to tell the truth to others. 
 
I can sympathize with many persons who are upset, frustrated with the much too many bad preachers theses days too.  I still do also too often see supposed great men of God wrongfully quoting the other persons, ( or stealing other people’s words and claiming them as God’s) but rather  firstly not quoting the Bible directly, for they also do seem still not to like to quote the word of God, for they seem to have their own false agendas, views they want wrongfully exalted, presented. Well we have to first and only look at the “sure word of prophecy”.
 

 

Here is the irony still too many preachers on the subject of future prophecies like many other Bible issues, the persons do too often, now also on all sides, do take isolated verses out of context and accuse the others of even doing so now as well.. they really are not doing a thorough study of the Bible  themselves even.. 
 
Someone how the actual, whole truth here likely lies in between the many personally conflicting views, presentations made by many preachers too, and it  is not generally as simple as many make it out to be, desire it to be, and it does requires a more detailed personal study, review of the whole Bible, Old and New Testament now as well.       

(Psa 119:116 KJV)  Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope
 
[Prov 25:2.8] It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. 

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/InfoNw4/bible.html 
  

Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the Pastors, even though this may be an honest expectation, for our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him. Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man,or women, and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

(1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

(2 Cor 10:1 KJV) Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ,

(Gal 5:23 KJV) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

(Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

(Eph 4:2 KJV) With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

(Col 3:12 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

(1 Tim 6:11 KJV) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

(Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

(James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

(James 3:13 KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

(1 Pet 3:15 KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

When I encounter crooked evangelical pastors and I have many times. I first talk to them personally or write to them alone and I do ask them to repent.. and I have next helped to fire many of them too.. the ones who refused to repent.

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  1. >>Todd Bentley caught on camera being fraudulent at Lakeland! He lies and lets other lie to millions – why? « End Times Prophetic, Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, Revelation, Christian Blog

    >By the way I don’t know why should you put up topics of end times cause it brings fear and intimidation to people..

    I agree .. the subject made Daniel even sick.. (Dan 8:27 KJV) And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

    plus look at this the Book of Daniel where Daniel himself was told to seal up the words of the prophecy.. (Dan 12:4 KJV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:

    for we are all to look forward to the return of Jesus Christ, not the return of the anti christ

    The negative Comment by Ron is for me another one sided bash, it neglects the good work being done..

    Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the Pastors, even though this may be an honest expectation, for our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him. Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man, or women, and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

    (1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

    (2 Cor 10:1 KJV) Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ,

    (Gal 5:23 KJV) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    (Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

    (Eph 4:2 KJV) With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

    (Col 3:12 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

    (1 Tim 6:11 KJV) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

    (2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

    (Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

    (James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

    (James 3:13 KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

    (1 Pet 3:15 KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

    When I encounter crooked evangelical pastors and I have many times. I first talk to them personally or write to them alone and I do ask them to repent.. and I have next helped to fire many of them too.. the ones who refused to repent.

    Vain

    to endtimespropheticwords keep up the good work but

    Brother in love two people had even agreed it was wrong.. now

    (Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    (Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

    (Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

    (Mat 7:6 KJV) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

    >>Wot is real revival to you? Is revival with people getting saved and healed of the devil? how can you say that this todd bentley is a fake? if you can prove it then show us the evedience!! dont flake up wots not true cause you will be accountable to everything you say!!!

    I agree the devil too often is behind the bashings, bullyings, for he is the accuser of the brethren and so are his followers..

    (Mat 3:11 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

    (Mat 13:30 KJV) Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    The sin on presumption is acting upon a matter before God specially tells you to do it as well and then you still do it in love..

    http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/todd-bentley-caught-on-camera-being-fraudulent-at-lakeland-he-lies-and-lets-other-lie-to-millions-why/#comment-7523

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    Comment by thenonconformer — May 26, 2008 @ 6:24 pm


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