
My third false deception was assuming that God basically was not involved in the things of this world, that there was no’s such things as God personally speaking to us where we can hear his voice, have a direct conversation what him, and there were mo. miracles of healing, no baptism of the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit . no holy spirit gifts . Boy was I really was I really wrong here too. Sadly many Christians too are so busy working and also so worrying about how to change the others, but are they themselves firstly now even walking in the right path? 95 percent of Christians do not read the Bible or pray more than 5 minutes a day shows the basic Christian problem.here too.
Let’s see some biblical examples of how easy it is to miss God.
-Jacob went to sleep unaware that he was literally lying over the very gateway of heaven (Genesis 28:11-17).
-Young Samuel could not distinguish the Lord’s voice from that of the man he served every day (1 Samuel 3:4-5).
-Multiplied thousands of people rubbed shoulders with the Son of God. They heard teaching like no one had ever given. They saw miracles that took their breath away. And almost none of them had a clue as to who he was.
-For miles, the resurrected Jesus walked and talked with two of his disciples, and they never realized who was speaking to them. ‘ . . . they were kept from recognizing him.’ The moment they discovered who it was, he vanished (Luke 24:13-31).
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But we all still do have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear.; Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others, or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and often rather making it a lot worse.
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There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: thinking the Bible is solely the Word of God, There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: by thinking the Bible is the Word of God alone, and thinking that all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer solely to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God personally speaking to you. If you don’t also listen to the Voice of God, you will never really grow; you will never know from what to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God or his will and plan for you; and you will not have any final reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ. You will never make it to Heaven but still only to Hell.
You can memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, and it will gain you nothing with God. It is easy to read the Bible. It often feels good to read the Bible, as long as you discount all the requirements such as holiness, perfection, and purity while ignoring the disqualifications of anger, lust, immorality, impurity, greed, etc. The Bible wasn’t even printed until 1516, but the early church thrived for 300 plus years without it. Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. For he calls us all to repentance, Christhood, and the Kingdom of Heaven.
Hear this! Understand, the Bible is not the Word of God, for the many scriptures that refer to the Word of God are not referring to the Bible, but rather to the voice of God or the Lord – his words from him, the living spirit Word – otherwise you are looking to the wrong source of growth – a book, instead of God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26. He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.
Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat 4:4
There is no valid, real spiritual life without hearing words from the mouth of God.
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Many persons have a godly desire to serve the lord to become Apostles, Prophets pastors-teachers, evangelism, elders. The best way they can prepare themselves for this is firstly giving themselves all unto God and learning to hear God speaking to them.. Surprising ring how many professing Christian people do not still hear God personally speaking to them. Tragic that most so called Christians don’t hear the voice of God and are not really led by him at all. As they definately don’t wait upon the Lord including Pentecostals.
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(1 Sam 3:10 KJV) And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant hearth.
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In our fast food, take control society Nobody wants to wait. It would be easier to quit on a need than wait.
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But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 40:31 The Lord is saying to us that if we wait upon Him, we will not be tired, we will not be frustrated, and all of His tasks will be accomplished in the perfect amount of time;
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How can I be more spiritual? How can I tap into the hidden wisdom of God that will bring forth my breakthrough? The key is hearing God’s voice behind His written Word. To identify God’s voice, we must actively communicate with Him. If we want to hear from Him, we must fellowship with Him through regular praise and worship, even by meditation on His Word and our consistent prayers.
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Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now.. The other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.
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As Believers who have been Baptized with the Holy Spirit, we can also speak to God by praying or speaking in tongues. Through praying in the Spirit, we speak the very mysteries that could unlock the answers to the situations we face in life! By speaking in tongues and praying for the interpretation it we get divine revelation Knowledge imparted by God directly to each one of us. There is something miraculous powerful that happens when we spend time communicating with God, praying in tongues. It is often during these quiet times that we do even hear the voice of God speaking truth and wisdom directly from Heaven.;
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I also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one.. Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes mutual communication. The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance. We still cannot make our on views, experience now still as God’s rule for everyone else. But many people do. Some people wrongfully do claim that God today can only speak to each one of us personally, to all of us through his written Word the Bible, cause that is all they have experienced maybe? but in fact I am very sure that these very same people God often cannot still even personally reach them firstly even by his Word… you know that is why so many people read the Bible and have different interpretations, doctrines, denominations even cause it is really not God who is talking to them through it… mere man is or self or the devil.. And yet many Bible scholars, pastors who know the Bible are blind to God’s truths and yet they know the Word on the outside.. their real inadequacy is that they really still do not, did not know God on a deep personal level, they have not communicated with Him and thus they are still in the wilderness themselves still. It is one thing to know the Word, but it is another thing to know the Author himself. How well do you know the author, not just his writings?
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Some people sadly are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and they will fail at it still too. (Psa 66:18 KJV) If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: That iniquity can still be operating in the the kingdom of self.. If any will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23
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“There was a day when I died;
died to self, my opinions, preferences, tastes and will;
died to the world, its approval or censure;
died to the approval or blame even of my brethren or friends;
and since then I have studied only
to show myself approved unto God.”
(George Mueller)
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He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6
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Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.
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Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways.
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There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all God’s general will.
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There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular situation. We have to be open to both ways too.
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(John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
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The manner of God speaking to us through Scripture has much not to do with what we are we mainly desire to know, or what personally are dealing with at the time but what he wants to reveals to us.
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We are always slaves, servants of God who listen to his will, his instructions above all. But don’t personally read into the Bible as to what is being said rather first listen to Him, God, the Holy Spirit explaining next the scriptures to you personally. Allow the Scripture to “leap off the page” at you, as receive his divine revelation, and His Bible passages take on a meaning that you hadn’t noticed maybe even a moment earlier. There can be a passage of time between the initial reading of logos before it becomes rhema . One might as well read the same Scripture over and over again, and then next one day it “speaks”. This act of divine speaking, revelation of God through his Word is called “rhema” in the original Greek language of the New Testament.
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The WHOLE Church is to also encourage the personal development of gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophecy. I was surprised to read it is not just only today that some people object to anyone prophesying… it is still the devil who is behind this objection.. he does not want anyone to know, experience the power of God
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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(1 Cor 14:13 KJV) Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (And no exceptions now too)
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(Num 11:24 KJV) And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!
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(1 Cor 14:26 KJV) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible they often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.
(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
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I can remember one time I was really depressed standing in the hall by a door and I openly had said to God that if Heaven is like hell on earth then I do not want to go to heaven.. God immediately, immediately spoke to me and said Heaven is nothing at all like hell or earth for nothing evil, bad will ever enter into Heaven.. Men have often disappointed me here on earth, but God does not let us down, we are blessed in full when we have a relationship with him. (John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
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I have seen a lot in the last 50 years, MANY REAL miracles too, but I have noticed often now too that absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing brings me as much joy AS when Jesus talks to ME, in fact HIS TALKING TO ME it often next becomes an overflowing stream of joy and peace.
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The false demotion of the Holy Spirit is sadly a reality amongst too many Christians is still demonically inspired as well ..
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True Christians believe that God reveals himself through more than the inspired words and thoughts and books. Words and thoughts and books, even when they are divinely inspired, are inadequate to reveal God’s person. What distinguishes us as Christians is that we believe that God revealed Himself uniquely in Jesus Christ.
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The Bible still is not superior to Jesus and the Bible is not equal to Jesus as divine revelation.
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Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation. To the experience, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well.
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The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life now next turn even to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Spirit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They instead now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, Jesus alone, himself.
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For example: “The Mainstream Baptists have repeatedly warned that Southern Baptists were being led into Bible idolatry… the Living Word of God is being subordinated to the written word. The Bible has become an idol and the uniqueness of Christian revelation has been undermined.Sadly even other denominations, groups are really falsely also now doing the same wrong things.. for there is great danger that most of these persons will subordinate the Living Word of God to the fallible interpretations of men, the false worship of mere men, objects too…
(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.
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(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
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(Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
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(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
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(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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We all are told to come to Jesus directly..
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God’s voice and spiritual gifts are not the only thing the devil blinds many people too;;
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see also
http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html
http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/
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Follow after God alone and not mere man… God still speaks too …
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There are many different voices available to us today to listen to still, even the voice of the enemy, the devil and his followers.. or own voices and finally God’s voice. Learning how to listen to and listen daily, continually to God’s voice is not optional too. Now God still speak to us through his word, the Bible, but God also still speak to us by His Holy Spirit as well. When you talk about what the scripture DO say you honestly should mean how you interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..
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(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
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(Jer 6:16 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
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But they said, We will not walk therein
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/learing-to-listen-to-the-voice-of-the-lord/
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There are 2 reasons
1: First there is no reason to believe the gifts have ceased, the people who falsely cannot speak in toungues of course use this a bad excuse they cannot do it.The Bible, New Testsmant use the tense continual present, meaning God, Jesus , holy spirit keep on giving the gits
2: Also the gifts of toungues are given to those who have surrendered completely to God, Jesus is ther full Lord and they are his slaves..
Now about 30 percent of Christians speak in toungues, about 500 million Christians
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