Missing the point?

June 11, 2008

The true Church of Jesus Christ

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(Acts 17:11 KJV) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
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All that shines like Gold is not necessarily God, rather too often it is still fool’s gold. Jesus Christ personally now had died for my sins so I now next can go to heaven and be eternally with Him, and not rather so I could join the Mormon church and listen to their false teachings. http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/mormonism-vs-biblical-teachings-about-jesus/
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The biggest shock for me was to discover that Mormons basically do not first know, read, practice the New Testament so it is no wonder they are a lost cause, cult.
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 The true Church of Jesus Christ is not the Church of Jesus Christ of the latter day saints for sure for a start. Having an appearance of Godliness only! A Mormon, a latter day false saint, had often said to me that the LSD church is the only true Church cause it has Jesus Christ in it’s name, but I still do know that one of the best way to catch fish, suckers is with real live bait, worms or minnows too. What an absurd argument alone now too that the LDS is now a true Christian Church, or that they are the sole true saints, when they the LDS clearly do not daily read, follow the Bible itself for sure, rather they mostly do follow the false teachings of their false teachers, false elders, false prophets. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/like-all-cults-mormons-do-tend-to-get-really-upset-when-you-question-their-own-beliefs/..
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 You should see how insulting the Mormons write back to me  now too on this.. when a Mormon says he reads the Bible, he means the false books they themselves now have added to the Bible..
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The true Church of Jesus Christ would firstly not openly deny the Bible itself in it’s teaching, or lifestyle.
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The LDS Church of Jesus Christ would firstly not openly deny the Bible itself in it’s teaching, or lifestyle until what the the Bible actually says is quoted to them..
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Upon more detailed, closer examination most LSD members, adherents personal knowledge of the Bible itself is appalling, pathetic, unacceptable.
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THE MORMON CHURCH EVEN SAYS IT IS A PROGRESSIVE CHURCH AND THEY NOW HAVE CHANGED NOW THEIR PASTOR DOCTRINES IN REGARDS TO BLACK PEOPLE, AND POLYGAMY. THIS IS CONTRADICTORY, RIDICULOUS APPROACH FOR THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAD CLAIMED TO INSPIRED, LED BY ANGELS ORIGINALLY TOO. The Corrupted men’s teaching tend to not only useless but often leads others into more unacceptable sins too.
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 It is true Jesus is not a brother of Satan, he is God himself come down to earth in a human form. True Christians have a personal daily relationship with Jesus and Jesus today as well he talks to them as Jesus said they hear his voice. The Spirit of Christ, the Holy Sprit also leads, guides them only if they will let him.
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It seems that even in the so called Mormon Church some things have wrongfully not changed.. too many pastors, elders, deacons are fighting for positions, recognition, and seem to have forgotten the rest of the flock..
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“For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd” (Jesus, the Shepherd (“poimen”) which means pastor) and Bishop (Overseer) of your souls. (1 Peter 2:25).”And when the chief Shepherd (JESUS) shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.”
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The true Church of Jesus Christ also has in reality Jesus Christ, who is God come to earth in the flesh, and His Holy Spirit, as the sole head of the church, not some apostate men.
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No one can dispute that Christ supposedly is no longer the head of the Church, and yet many do try to do this and why? They want to wrongfully exalt themselves or some mere man or women.. and they serve the devil too.. The true Christian Church relies on faith in the finished work, the shed blood of Jesus Christ alone for their salvation from all of our personal sins and death, hell, and not genealogy or personal good works or even religious works. I was also shocked as to how false, hypocritical now the Mormons, or the LSD really are when they clearly lie and say they do not bash other religions, viewpoints, but they too readily distort the historical facts, teachings of the Bible, the true Christians, the true Christian Church still. While all sides claim to believe the Bible is the word of God, they seem to explain it all very differently… the problem to me it seems is that clearly one group is doing it mostly in their own wisdom, not in God’s, they are not allowing the Holy Spirit to guide, teach them, but rather the flesh, mere men and the devil.. but next each one says still the other group is doing this.. the same professing Christian group that has a low emphasis on Jesus Christ, who is God himself and His Holy Spirit is the one in error.
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Third John 1:9-11. I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth [them] out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
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The Mormon tried to also tell me that this so called church is true cause it tithes, it’s apostles, prophets, teachers, Presbyterians, pastors receive no salaries. But now they are Counterfeit still rather for their false version of Jesus is for sure not the Jesus most Christians believe in..

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“Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews only). Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws; but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in the believer s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament. It is known as the grace of giving ; The gauge or rule of this systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing. All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to God ( ? ) – THE PAOC The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking “
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THE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO ENFORCE TITHING today, 10 percent of all of your income to be given to the local storehouse pastors, AS AN APPLICABLE MINIMUM GIVING STANDARD IN THE CHURCH ARE LYING, intentionally or unintentionally even if they are the PAOC too. Jesus today wants all of you, everything you own, not just the 10 percent, to be fully under his control, a living sacrifice to God and that includes your body, soul and spirit and all of your money now as well. All of it. Deny yourself, Take up your cross and follow him
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Tithing, the giving of 10 percent of one’s income to local storehouse, temple, is an old testament teaching, non compulsory in the new testament, but people who tithe, had to give a portion, 1/7 of the tithe to the local poor people, and yet no Mormon would assure me that this was being done for sure.
Apostle Paul had made it clear that Christian workers can now still receive an adequate pay, salary for their work now too. Not receiving a salary does not mean one is more spiritual, it is their choice not to do so still too.
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The apostle Judas was good example of some of the bad pastors we have in the church today.. who cared about his own agenda, his own importance, about monetary gains too.
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Speaking of Judas, Acts 1:19 says, “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take”. But, look what that passage in Psalms says referring to Judas, “Let his days be few; [and] let another take his office”. Psalm 109:8. “Bishoprick” means office of a bishop. So, Judas had an office of a bishop or a bishoprick. (One of twelve offices or “bishopricks”). But, Judas had no church, nor authority, and was not over the other apostles. Jesus called him to a service, a ministry, a work, or an “office”, and sent him out with the other disciples to preach the gospel. ” Like Judas it should be obvious even today still that the too many rather hirelings not true shepherds in the Ministry that tend not to live by faith. to live by faith that God, not man will supply all of their personal needs now as well. Besides that too many religious workers, rather mere “Hirelings” do still lie when they say they do not have a fixed salary, income, sadly, they neglect to mention their designated, fixed expense accounts, budgets, supports, privileges that they have access too.. (2 Cor 6:14 KJV) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; (1 Peter 5:1-2)
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Let us also make it clear that the Holy Spirit assigns you a specific flock to look after.. but the flocks still all belongs to God, is His alone… Jesus Christ is Lord of all, and I have yet to hear a Mormon personally say that and personally apply that too and believe it.. Cory 1:10-13 says, “Now I beseech you, brethren, BY THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; (sects or denominations) but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

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How can you love and serve two masters? The Bible says you can’t. Whose name will you serve? In the name of Jesus, or in some man-made sectarian name? “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served….BUT AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD.” Josh 24:15.

(1 Cor 11:1 KJV) Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 1 John 2:27 “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

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2 Tim 4:3-4, it says, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth.”.

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“But Jesus called them [to him], and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all”. Mark 10:42-44.

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“Not for that we have dominion over your faith , but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand” 2 Cor 1:23.

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The true Christians who know their Bible immediately recognized that supposedly latter day saints, the Mormons still do teach about another Another Jesus?
The Jesus according to the Book of Mormon is a different Jesus? A distorted one. The name Jesus is actually the Greek form of the name of Joshua (Yeshua) meaning “Jehovah is salvation”.
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In the 2nd letter to the Corinthians Paul warns about the very real possibility of another Jesus, a false Jesus different from the Jesus Paul had presented to the Corinthians.
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For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4
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The fact is, the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints have a “Jesus” central to their teachings but the Jesus presented in the Bible, is not the same as the LDS Jesus. The Jesus presented in the New Testament, is God himself, fulfilling the prophecies of the Old Testament as the son og God son who will redeem all mankind surely

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But, behold, my Beloved Son which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever. Pearl of Great Price, Moses 4:1-2
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Does it really matter if the LDS Jesus and the Jesus of the Bible have different aspects? Our true Jesus himself now comments about false prophets, works done in his name and eternal destiny in the Gospel

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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:15,22-23
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Without the Biblical Jesus you cannot be saved. The Mormon Jesus did not die for your sins. How can they even be saved?
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Believing in a False Jesus and teaching others a lie is a sin.they must be willing to repent of such sins.
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For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
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The LDS falsely teaches Jesus was the spirit child of a heavenly Father and Mother, who had brothers including Satan. They also teach the Mormon heavenly father was once a man of flesh who “Became” God. And that it is within the potential of all obedient Mormons to also become a god like Jesus and the Heavenly father, having spirit children with their eternal wives. “God exists and we had better strive to be prepared to be one with them” (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 7:238)
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“As man is, God once was: as God is, man may become” (Prophet Lorenzo Snow, quoted in Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, 105-106) Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point where He now is” (Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 1:123)
Where was Jesus actually now Born? According to the both the Old and New Testaments the Messiah (Christ) was to be born in the city of Bethlehem, a distinct city from Jerusalem. (Micah 5:2, Luke 2:4-16, Matthew 2:1-6, John 7:42) According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus was born in the city of Jerusalem, not in Bethlehem.
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Was Jesus married? Not according to the Bible, Jesus was never married, in fact the Bride of Christ is called the church in Ephesians and elsewhere in scripture (See Matthew 25:1-10, Revelation 19:6-14, 2 Corinthians 11:2)

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Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; Ephesians 5:25
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However, the Mormon Jesus was not only married, but he was married to three women, two them being sisters. In addition to three wives, Jesus also had children he saw before he was crucified. Jesus also married Mary and Martha and the other Mary at Cana of Galilee, “Whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified” (Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 4:259; 2:82)
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Where Jesus and Satan brothers? not related at all.. The Bible informs us Satan, means “Adversary” in Hebrew was a Cherub angel created perfect by God, who became jealous of God and demanded worship from the other angels. According to scripture, Jesus created all things (John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2), this would include Lucifer before he choose to rebel. Jesus on the other hand was the Son of God, to be worshipped by all the angels when He came into the world.
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.” 8 But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:6,8
Unless Jesus was God, the angels would be sinning by worshipping another angel. God on the other hand commands the angels to worship the Son whom He calls God.
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The Mormon Jesus according to Joseph Smith’s revelation is the brother of Satan who had a competing plan of salvation. God the Father, choose Satan’s brother, the Mormon Jesus’ plan for salvation.
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Yes there are many other false teachings contradicting the Bible in the Mormon Church now too.
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We all must accept Jesus Christ, the Biblical Jesus, the Son of God as our Lord and Savior, who died for our sins. Jesus said, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life (John 3;16)

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Did Jesus have a Heavenly father and Mother? The Bible tells us Jesus, was eternal before his incarnation into the body of Man. He was God in the Old Testament who came took upon Himself human form.

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The Bible tells us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (John 1:9).

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Yet these people rejected by Jesus thought they were doing good works in His name; including prophesizing and casting out demons. The one thing they lacked was they did not know Jesus. He says to them, I never knew you. They in fact knew another Jesus, but not our real Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the LDS is another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Bible.

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Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”. (John 14:6)

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(Acts 20:28 KJV) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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(Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. (1 Cor 9:14 KJV) “Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. ”
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2 And there is and always will be only one God and one Bible now too, one true Church and it is not the church of the Latter day saints. This is the reality
3 Latter day saints, the Mormons are not real Christians especially since they do not read or practice the Bible but use the false book of Mormon as their main guide instead. The Mormons always show their unacceptable Bible ignorance to anyone who reads and knows the Bible too.
4: Now as we also know tithing is itself an invalid old testament applications used by many Church thieves today to collect money under false pretences.
Read the Bible for yourself and know the truth over men’s lies, distortions, spins.. http://pbulow.tripod.com/
DO ALSO SEE

http://pbulow.tripod.com/tradition.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/polygamy.htm

“You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life.” John 5:39-40:

Jesus said in Matthew 11:28: “Come to me all you who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.”

John 6:35 records Jesus as saying: “…I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.”

Similarly, Jesus also said in John 7:37: “…if any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.”

The Bible clearly records many instances where Christ is freely worshipped by the disciples: -John 9:38 states: “Then the man said: “Lord, I believe,” and he worshipped Him [Christ]. ” -Matthew 14:33 records that after the miracle of walking on water, the disciples worshipped Christ: “And those who were in the boat worshipped Him, saying, “You are certainly God’s Son!” -Matthew 28:9 records the following incident concerning the disciples reaction to the risen Christ: “And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshipped Him.” -Later in the same chapter of Matthew, in verse 17, the disciples are again recorded as worshipping the risen Christ: “And when they saw Him, they worshipped Him; but some were doubtful.” -As John 5:23 clearly states that equal honour should be given to the Son as is given to the Father, then this must include worship, praise, and prayer to the Son: “in order that all may honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent Him.” The implications of this verse are clear. You give Christ the same honour as the Father if you worship Him and pray to Him, but if you refuse to worship Him, you do not honour Him, nor the Father. On the contrary, failure to honour the Son, is a denial of the Son and the Father. 1 John 2:23 states that “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.”

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other biblical examples of Christ being worshipped is found in the New Testament letters: -Philippians 3:3 says that “…we who are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus…” -Those in Heaven show by their testimony that it is right to worship the Lord Jesus. Hebrew 1:6 declares: “…Let all the angels of God worship Him.” – Revelation 5:8-14 records a powerful scene in Heaven where the “twenty-four elders”, thousands and thousands of angels, and “the living creatures” declaring praise to the Jesus the Lamb of God:”saying with a loud voice, “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honour and glory and blessing.” And every created thing which is in heaven and on earth and under the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honour and glory and dominion forever and ever.” And the four living creatures kept saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshipped.”

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and the Bible clearly records instances whereby Christ is rightly prayed to. Acts 7:54-60 records the last words of the apostle Stephen before he was martyred: “And they went on stoning Stephen as he called upon the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And having said this, he fell asleep.”

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Mormons do not have a Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ. “Do you have a personal relationship with Christ?”, the question was asked of the Mormon missionary. “Yes we do, the Church believes in Jesus Christ, and honours Him as the Saviour”, came the reply. However, when the following questions were asked: “But do you really have a relationship with Him? Do you pray to Jesus and worship Him?” “Well, we pray through Him to Heavenly Father.” It was then asked of the missionary: “Can I ask you, would you pray to Jesus tonight, the Jesus of the Bible?”, to which the reply came: “No. I will not do that.” This true account is typical of the conversations that I have personally had with many Mormons over the years. Mormons claim to honour Christ but fail to give Him the prominence that He rightly deserves.” Bruce R. McConkie, http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/mormrel.htm

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 see also http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/those-who-fear-the-bible/

19 Comments »

  1. Demons alone now have written these Mormon books that contradict the Bible and you would have known that had you read the Bible. Jesus is not just the son of God, he is God himself as well.. The Mormon’s way of salavation is not God’s way of Salvation too. Very few real Born from above Christians believe that Mormons are any kind of Christians in fact.

    Comment by thenonconformer — October 20, 2010 @ 6:39 am

  2. Amen, I just wanted to testify that what you shared about the Holy Bible is all true, 4 years ago I, my wife and 2 of my childen and then our 3 just 2 years ago, after being invited to a local church and hearing these same words from God we each placed our faith in Jesus of the Bible and recevied His gift of salvation. Praise God, the Bible is true.

    As to your testimony about the latter day saints, I had some of them visit me at my home last week, I talked to them at my door about the difference between us , I read a hand out they had on salvation and it is so far from the Bible, also by far it is the worst conterfeit satan ever used and I too am dumb founded how can anyone believe this false Mormon story. God help them please.

    Comment by bro — October 26, 2010 @ 9:29 am

  3. So, if the mormons are not the true church of Christ, then, which one is the true church of Christ?

    Comment by Professor — March 17, 2011 @ 6:22 pm

  4. The true Chruch of Jesus Christ was, is never the Mormon Church, the false latter day saints for their false Jesus Christ is the twin brother of the devil.. and they have written a false Bible to get you lost in it.. The true church of Jesus Christ is the one that follows soley the New Testament Bible.. and not a false add on too.

    Comment by thenonconformer — March 23, 2011 @ 8:54 am

  5. the book of mormon does not actually contradicts the bible, in fact, it supports what is written in the bible. ( this is a big lie)
    we believe in Jesus Christ, the same Jesus in the bible. we use the bible in our sunday classes. we use and practice the BIBLE as well together with the book of mormon. ( Mormons have never read the New testament portion of the Bible or the old one too for they would not make such a riduclous statement, FOR JESUS IS NOT THE TWIN BROTHER OF THE DEVIL BUT GOD HIMSELF AND GOD WAS NEVER A POLYGAMIST.)
    i know these things are true, and i leave this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

    Comment by may — May 28, 2011 @ 12:26 am

  6. HA HA HA

    OBVIOULSTY YOU STILL CANNOT EVEN READ, BOTH WHAT I WROTE OR THE NEW TESTAMENT OR YOU WOULD NOT TRY TO WRITE SUCH ABSURDITY FOR THE FALSE PERSONS WHO ARE NOT REAL CHRISTIANS ARE THE MORMONS

    Comment by thenonconformer — May 31, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

  7. I’am A Mormon And I Believe All The Church Teach Us So If You Cannot Respect Our Church You Can Respect Us As Member…….

    Comment by Kean Oliver — October 10, 2011 @ 2:37 am

  8. Sorry I cannot respect liars..

    Comment by thenonconformer — October 11, 2011 @ 6:15 am

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  14. Jesus is coming back to a powerful endtime church he will call his bride.
    The church on earth will be united as one and will worship Jesus Christ in spirit and in truth.
    Satan has many false prophets out there in the churches to proclaim false doctrines to millions.
    You need to be baptised in the Holy Spirit to discern false doctrines and false prophets. You will know them by the fruit they bear. A rotten person cannot bear good fruit.

    Comment by Pauline — January 10, 2013 @ 2:50 am

  15. This is true saying. Thanks for these true word of God

    Comment by Abidemi — September 13, 2013 @ 10:17 am


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