Missing the point?

December 29, 2008

Happy New Year

 A Happy New Year

2009

Wishing you all love, joy, peace, love,

 

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freedom, prosperity, and much more.

and that you at least do not repeat last year’s mistakes..

(Prov 10:22 KJV)  The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

October 17, 2008

How did the now Alberta redneck now get it so wrong,

 

 
 “I knew would happen, after the corrupt and scandal-plagued Conservatives failed to get a majority because Quebecers were too smart to fall for Harper’s vote-buying bribes and negative advertising, the embittered cynics trot out the letters bashing Quebecers as selfish separatists. In a letter about the interprovincial bridge proposal, David Hooper whined that “the majority of voters in the riding of Gatineau” supported the Bloc Québécois. That’s odd, considering Bloc MP Richard Nadeau received just 29 per cent of the vote. By no measure is this a majority – in fact, more than 70 per cent (a majority) of Gatineau voters supported federalist parties.Besides, voter turnout in Quebec was 61 per cent, and only 29 per cent of Gatineau voters chose the Bloc. That equals less than 18 per cent of the voting population. Let’s use some common sense here. Just because the election might not have gone the way Mr. Hooper and Mr. Clark wanted is no excuse for Quebec-bashing.”Mark Johnson,Nepean

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/letters/story.html?id=f4127e33-5e4f-4225-a2e3-d68bdfd3e36b

It is historical fact, reinforced again this week, that Quebeckers have always voted for a party led by a Quebecker when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/canada-harper-failed-again-in-an-attempt-to-win-majority-government/
 
“The Bloc got another break when Stephen Harper made a statement pushing for teens who commit serious crimes to serve jail sentences in adult prisons. Mr. Duceppe slammed the Prime Minister for delivering “fresh meat” to prison pedophiles and sending young criminals to “the university of crime.”” http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/election-2008/story.html?id=882332
 
Now really How can a now Alberta, redneck that was personally now even raised in Montreal, Quebec,  now get it so wrong, did he accidently offend the people of Quebec or did he do so knowingly because he not care if it did cause he was trying to please so hard his hypocritical, Conservative rednecks of Alberta, who do emphasize now wrongfully now the letter of   the law over the  spirit of the law.. for now when there is an increase of  problem children, juvenile delinquents,  it is the parents firstly who have to take the majority of the blame and not the children. Surely the self professing Christian evangelical, Alliance church,  Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows this from his own personal Bible readings? (Prov  22:6 KJV)  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 
 
or is still just a pretender Christian now too not just a pretender poltician?
  
and the answer is?
 
In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  But still not Barrack Obama or Stephen Harper and why?
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.
 
Following my post about Obama the alcoholic drunk?  last Friday , even Obama the cigar smoker, a  past  drug user too, next  since Friday Obama went down 5 percent in the polls and low leads by 3% only  and McCain next strengthened his support with the Christians.. but CNN also next responded by proving that Sarah Palin’s daughter was also an unacceptable alcoholic next , and CNN made no comment about Obama’s drunkenness orgies…

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick   persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/canadas-stephen-harper-the-pretender-imposter/

Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper who clearly really does not care about the good welfare of all the citizens of Canada next got his redneck conservative supporters distortions of why he had lost the 2008 federal election and , did not get a majority, need to see that Hamper is the one step forward, two steps backward loser rather and not falsely blame Quebec for  any of this

October 15, 2008

Canada – Harper failed again in an attempt to win majority government

 

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/the-harper-demon-who-clearly-made-it-all-worse/
 
A Conservative loser is still a big loser 

 

Reality today is that  besides cheap words, more likely broken promises, useless   Canada’s  pretentious Ostrich Conservative Finance Minister  Flaherty still presently offers no viable, real, effective solutions to help the thousands already laid off, and Canada’s present economic meltdown, the people also who will lose their homes due to foreclosures too.

 
More minority government.  Conservatives win about 37 percent of the votes, a one percent gain only  since 2006. Liberals win 26 percent, down 4 percent. Liberals have worst showing in 20 years., BQ win 10 percent-  no change-, and  NDP win 18 percent of the votes , another 1 percent gain . But the NDP made significant gains mostly in Ontario. Lowest voter turnout in history, for $290-million federal election
  
PROJECTED NATIONAL STANDINGS Polls In: 308/308
Party Elected Leading Total
143 0 143
76 0 76
50 0 50
37 0 37
2 0 2
0 0 0
 
 http://enr.elections.ca/National_e.aspx 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/ridings/  
http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2008/electionResults.html
 

Majority Is Seen as Unlikely for Canada’s Conservatives   October 14, 2008  OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s gamble that forcing Canada into its third election in four years would give him firm control over Parliament seemed to be falling short on Tuesday.  Polls leading into the vote had indicated that his Conservatives would return to power, but that they would again find themselves relying on support from the opposition to get legislation passed.  And early returns from Atlantic Canada, where polls closed first, showed the Conservatives leading or elected in 21 parliamentary districts, to the Liberals’ 28 seats. The Conservatives were shut out in Newfoundland and Labrador.  But the Atlantic provinces were not expected to back Mr. Harper’s party, and Danny Williams, the Conservative who is prime minister of Newfoundland, had vigorously campaigned against the federal wing of his party because of a dispute over oil and gas rights. After taking power in 2006, Mr. Harper set a fixed election date, an idea introduced with fanfare but abandoned last month when he called this election.  It appeared that he was relying on the strong economy, as well as disarray in the opposition Liberal Party, to secure the parliamentary majority he was denied in the last election, in January 2006.  Mr. Harper was blindsided, however, by the turmoil that has swept international financial markets. Canada’s banks have avoided the troubles experienced of late in the United States and Britain, but the Toronto Stock Exchange has gyrated with its counterparts elsewhere. Mr. Harper made an undesirable situation worse for his party by projecting a nonchalant attitude.  During a debate, he found himself on the defensive after saying, “What Canadians are worried about right now is not the job situation, not losing their home like in the U.S.” Their concerns, he added, were limited to their investments. Later, in a television interview, he suggested that the world’s economic problems might not be all bad. “I think there are probably some gains to be made in the stock market,” he said. Canadians do not vote directly for a political party or the prime minister, but elect a local member of the House of Commons, the lower house of Parliament. For Mr. Harper to achieve a majority in Parliament, it was essential for him to improve his party’s standing in Ontario and Quebec, which control 181 of the 308 seats.  The current economic uncertainty has been a particular concern in parts of Ontario where industries rely heavily on exports to the United States. A rise in the value of the Canadian dollar over the past two years made many of those factories much less competitive. The economic slowdown in the United States has aggravated the problem. Peter Donolo, a former official in a Liberal government who now is an executive of the Strategic Counsel, a polling firm, said the perception of Mr. Harper in Quebec reversed during the campaign, from a 60 percent approval rating to a 60 percent disapproval rating. “The support just evaporated,” Mr. Donolo said. “He chased away Quebec votes kind of offhandedly.” French-speaking Quebecers reacted poorly to suggestions by Mr. Harper that artists were members of the elite who spent too much time at government-financed galas.  A proposal to stiffen penalties for young people who commit crimes also found little following in the province.   The New Democratic Party, supported by organized labor and led by Jack Layton, steadily rose in most polls during the campaign.  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/world/americas/15canada.html?ref=world

 MONTREAL — Liberal Leader Stephane Dion found himself an unlikely ally Friday as he dealt with the aftermath of a botched English-language interview in Halifax — Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe. Duceppe came to Dion’s defence after the Conservatives manhandled the Liberal leader over the garbled interview and declared him unfit to lead the country. Dion tripped up during the interview with CTV Atlantic on Thursday and excerpts of his linguistic fumbles were later broadcast despite assurances made to the Liberals the flubs would not be aired. The Conservatives wasted no time lambasting Dion, with Leader Stephen Harper linking Dion’s language woes to his ability to lead. But Duceppe called Harper’s comments a “low blow” during a radio interview in Montreal. The Bloc leader says Harper’s comment only illustrates the “double standard” that exists in Canadian politics that requires French-speaking politicians to be fluently bilingual while English-speaking politicians can get away with mangling French. “I think it’s just unacceptable to criticize Mr. Dion’s English,” Duceppe said.  “I think when we compare Mr. Dion’s English with the French of other English leaders or ministers . . . I think he’s getting better.” http://www.edmontonsun.com/canadavotes/news/2008/10/10/7047636.html

How Harper fell apart
London Free Press, Canada –  By GREG WESTON, Sun Media It was the eve of the pivotal leaders’ debates when a group of Liberal strategists gathered to quickly draft a plan for Stephane
New Harper image didn’t cut it with Atlantic vote
TheChronicleHerald.ca, Canada –  By MARILLA STEPHENSON Staff Columnist Atlantic Canadians slammed the door against Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s second serious crack at a majority

Untill all parties start to care about all the voters this predicted fiasco repeats itself

 and it was really dumb to make a person  a Liberal chief too who cannot speak english.

And all persons are merely dreaming that the new Parliament will next usher in an era of co-operation between both the governing party and its opponents as long as Stephen Harper is around. That is not his style for he clearly and wrongfully loves to be a bully, to body check others.  And Harper now will clearly have to endure the successes and failures of minority government again by his own poor contributions to it .
  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/how-did-the-now-alberta-redneck-now-get-it-so-wrong/

 

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/canadas-stephen-harper-the-pretender-imposter/

 

 

Conservatives humbled, they still would still need opposition party support to govern. Canada’s third minority government in four years. Harper’s Conservatives defeated a Liberal minority government in the January 2006 election.  The Bloc Quebecois won about two-thirds of the Quebec province’s 75 seats on Tuesday as it repeated its 2006 success and kept its stranglehold on the province.  Canadian International Trade Minister Michael Fortier lost his bid to win a seat in Parliament in Tuesday’s election, initial projections showed. As expected, the Liberal’s star candidate, 36-year-old Justin Trudeau, son of the late prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, was elected in his riding of Papineau, giving the party a boost to its sagging fortunes in Quebec. Disgraced former foreign minister, Maxime Bernier was easily re-elected in the Beauce with 63 per cent of the vote, despite being embroiled in the Julie Couillard affair.   Fortier, a member of the unelected Senate upper chamber, was trailing badly behind a candidate from the separatist Bloc Quebecois in the French-speaking province of Quebec. Whether he makes it back into government is now in considerable doubt.  Voters shut out the Conservatives from two of Canada’s major cities for a second consecutive election last night, when the Tories failed to secure a single seat in either Toronto or Montreal.. The Liberals have elected or are leading in 21 Toronto ridings, and the NDP in two, while the Conservative party has been shut out of Canada’s largest city yet again. NDP got one seat in Montreal and the Liberals got 15. Almost all of the past Conservative Cabinet Ministers were re-elected. New Democrats across Canada had heightened expectations for the elections on Monday night that were dashed when the ballots were finally counted. Liberal Bob Rae   elected twice in the same year. Rae took the riding in a byelection on March 17 and was declared the winner tonight after about a fifth of the polls were counted. Michael Ignatieff also took his riding of Etobicoke-Lakeshore with about 47 per cent of the vote, with 50 of 261 polls reporting.  Rae and Ignatieff are considered front-runners if Stephane Dion’s leadership is challenged. Political observers have said Dion could face some pressure to resign if the Liberals fail to win about 90 seats, The Liberals are expected  to take about 76 seats.  Former Liberal leadership candidate Martha Hall Findlay took her seat in Willowdale and Gerard Kennedy took Parkdale-High Park from the NDP. Nova Scotia has elected its first Independent MP since 1874. Federal Liberals all but faded from Manitoba’s political landscapeTuesday, clinging to one seat following a fierce fight with the Conservatives and the NDP. Saskatchewan was awash in Tory blue Tuesday night with voters in the province strongly backing their incumbent Conservative MPs. Tories   make almost a clean sweep of all 14 ridings in southern Alberta – Big deal! They make enough noise about it still too.The NDP challenger Linda Duncan  in Edmonton-Strathcona bumped off four-time incumbent Tory Rahim Jaffer, preventing a Conservative sweep of Alberta. The Tories now hold 22 of 36 B.C. seats, up five from the last election.   They took ridings from both the New Democrats and Liberals but boosted their share mostly at Liberal expense. The Liberals went from seven to five seats but managed to hang on to three out of four core ridings. The New Democrats won in nine ridings, down one from their result in the 2006 election.   In the 2006 election, the Liberals sent 20 MPs to Ottawa from Atlantic Canada, while the Conservatives won nine seats and the NDP three. At press time the Liberals were elected or leading in 16 seats, the Conservatives had a small boost to 11 seats, the NDP had four and Bill Casey chalked one up in the Independent column.Voters in Cumberland-Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley are sending ex Conservative Bill Casey back to Ottawa for a fifth consecutive term.  The longtime MP made headlines last June when he voted against his party on a budget bill, saying it denied Nova Scotia benefits promised in an offshore deal. He was promptly kicked out of the Conservative caucus. Gerry Ritz, the federal agriculture minister who came under fire for cracking jokes about listeriosis, has reclaimed his seat in Saskatchewan. Canadians have elected a record number of women  68 to the House of Commons.

 

 

 

“It is historical fact, reinforced again this week, that Quebeckers have always voted for a party led by a Quebecker when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province… It is always possible that this pattern of not preferring one of their own could be broken, but it hasn’t been for 141 years….  It is also an  historical fact, reinforced again this week, that the rest of Canada  have always voted for a party led by a English speaking person when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province who cannot speak English properly, something the dumb Liberal party falsely had overlooked…  And after the Tories’ poor showing in the province in Tuesday’s election, many Quebec Conservatives believe Mr. Harper needs the Premier more than Mr. Charest – who is running high in the polls before a possible spring election – needs him.  The criticism has allowed Mr. Charest to position himself as a defender of Quebec’s interests who doesn’t owe anything to the regime in Ottawa.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
 
Still  the Quebec province could not remain silent on key planks of the Conservative election platform, such as life sentences for young offenders and cuts to arts programs.

 

 

 

The Quebec vote strongly suggests Harper still doesn’t have an innate feel for the aspirations of that province or he really does not care to have one.  “The Bloc got another break when Stephen Harper made a statement pushing for teens who commit serious crimes to serve jail sentences in adult prisons. Mr. Duceppe slammed the Prime Minister for delivering “fresh meat” to prison pedophiles and sending young criminals to “the university of crime.”” http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/election-2008/story.html?id=882332
 
Now really How can a now Alberta, redneck that was personally now even raised in Montreal, Quebec,  now get it so wrong, did he accidently offend the people of Quebec or did he do so knowingly because he not care if it did cause he was trying to please so hard his hypocritical, Conservative rednecks of Alberta, who do emphasize now wrongfully now the letter of   the law over the  spirit of the law.. for now when there is an increase of  problem children, juvenile diligent  it is the parents firstly who have to take the majority of the blame and not the children. Surely the self professing Christian evangelical, Alliance church,  Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows this from his own personal Bible readings? (Prov  22:6 KJV)  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 

May 27, 2008

Welcome to Quebec

Filed under: Christianity, NEWS & POLITICS, Uncategorized — Tags: , , — thenonconformer @ 9:22 am

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A full-page Newspaper ad featuring Premier Jean Charest last  week stated “Quebec forms a nation through its history, language, culture and institutions.” It also spoke of the equality of men and women, primacy of the French language and the separation of state and religion as bedrock principles. “The word “peoples” is conspicuously absent from Charest’s definition of the Quebec nation; because for him to include it would force the recognition of the true founding members of these lands, its aboriginal people.”. 
 
In a motion adopted unanimously by all parties in the National Assembly,, the motion affirms Quebecers’ “attachment to our religious and historic heritage represented by the crucifix” in the assembly. But the motion also reaffirms the promotion of the French language, “the history, culture and values of the Quebec nation in a spirit of openness and reciprocity,” borrowing language from the report. The commissioners suggest that judges, crown prosecutors, police officers, prison guards and the speaker and deputy speaker of the assembly refrain from wearing religious signs. But teachers, civil servants, health professionals and all other government employees could continue to wear religious signs. “The crucifix is about 350 years of history in Quebec that none of us are ever going to erase and of a very strong presence, in particular, of the Catholic church, and that’s our reality.” “As the premier of Quebec, my first role is the supreme responsibility to protect and perpetuate the French language,” and it’s culture, Premier Jean Charest. Charest called on the opposition parties to join the government in adopting Bill 63, which proposes an interpretive clause, affirming the equality of women and men in Quebec’s human rights charter.     The Catholics themselves now have not denied that Jesus Christ is Lord God for 2000 years too..
    

 

Quebec’s Jean Charest saw this all clearly, immediately when he received his copy of the Bouchard-Taylor report, and even as it was released last Thursday, the government tabled a motion in the legislature affirming “our attachment to our religious and historic heritage represented by the crucifix.” The Quebec legislature unanimously rejected the proposal to remove the crucifix from the National Assembly, a recommendation of the Bouchard/Taylor commission on reasonable immigrant accommodation. And this   appears rather strange for some people who point out that the Quebec province that has the lowest church attendance, one of our lowest birth rates and the largest number (per capita) of common-law marriages. Yet at heart the majority of Quebecers are still catholic and are not about to be forced to fully give up their Catholic religion, religious beliefs.

 Quebec’s Premier  Jean  Charest he has his Quebec history exactly right and  Catholics are still a big majority of the population. For Quebec society to give up religious and cultural symbols to please any immigrants who seem to take offence much too easily does not make sense nor is it a necessary legal, constitutional right. it is the immigrants who should make bigger accommodation to integrate with the Quebec, host  society, not the host society who should compromise its traditions to suit all of cultural demands  of the various immigrants.

In television interviews Quebec’s Premier  Jean  Charest explained that part of his plan will include requiring immigrants to learn French before arriving in Quebec and that they will have to sign a document adhering to Quebec values. Most Canadians support the primacy of the French language in Quebec. Many Canadians still do reluctantly accept Quebec as a distinct society and the House of Commons still even voted to designate Quebec “a nation”. Not much has changed in reality in Quebec for the last many decades too. The same old life and values seem to continue.

The Quebec National Assembly also adopted a unanimous resolution yesterday affirming that the mastery of French is an essential prerequisite for the naming of judges to the Supreme Court of Canada, and this should include the Prime Minister and the leader  of the official opposition party.  The leaders of all three political parties in Quebec argued that the time had come to insist on the French-language requirement as prerequisite to all future appointments. The knowledge of a language is a knowledge of a culture, of a reality. And those who are called on to interpret this reality and make decisions, which will have a very important impact on our lives, must, through our language, know this reality.” He noted that Quebec has a unique civil-law tradition and that the constitution provides that at least three judges be named from the province. “The message we are sending today to the federal government is that it is not optional when a Supreme Court judge is named,” Quebec premier Charest added, saying that this doesn’t just apply to Quebec, but to the Acadian and francophone societies across Canada.

 How Quebcers differ from the rest of Canada in their views..

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/04/28/what-canadians-think-of-sikhs-jews-christians-muslims/ 

The  April 2009 poll, by Angus Reid Strategies for Maclean’s, surveyed 1,002 randomly selected Canadians on religion. 
    RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE: POLL HIGHLIGHTS

    – 70% of Canadians hold a positive view of Christianity

    – 41% hold a positive view of Hinduism

    – 30% hold a positive view of Sikhism

    – 45% believe mainstream Islam encourages violence

    – 44% Nationally would not want their child to marry a person of Jewish faith. Even fewer would be comfortable with a Sikh or a Muslim. In Quebec, that number rises 

    – 62% Nationally  think laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities. In Quebec, that number rises to 74%.

Across Canada, 72 per cent said they have a “generally favourable opinion” of Christianity. At the other end of the spectrum, Islam scored the lowest favourability rating, just 28 per cent. Sikhism didn’t fare much better at 30 per cent, and Hinduism was rated favourably by 41 per cent. Both Buddhism, at 57 per cent, and Judaism, 53 per cent, were rated favourably by more than half the population

A mere 17 per cent of Quebecers said they have a favourable opinion of Islam, and just 15 per cent view Sikhism favourably. Only 36 per cent of Quebecers said they hold a favourable opinion of Judaism, far below the national average, and in sharp contrast to neighbouring Ontario, where 59 per cent expressed a favourable view of the Jewish religion. “ .., all religions were regarded less positively in Quebec than in Canada as a whole, including Christianity, which 67 per cent of Quebecers view favourably, five points below the Canadian average.  Buddhism’s favourability rating of 57 per cent is four points higher than Judaism, . Buddhism was the only religion, including Christianity, for which more than half of people who said they don’t have a friend of that faith held a favourable opinion of it anyway.

When asked if they thought “the mainstream beliefs” of the major religions “encourage violence or are mostly peaceful,” only 10 per cent said they thought Christianity teaches violence. But fully 45 per cent said they believe Islam does, and a sizable 26 per cent saw Sikhism as encouraging violence. By comparison, just 13 per cent perceived violence in Hindu teachings and 14 per cent in Jewish religion. A tiny four per cent said they think of Buddhism as encouraging violence. By far the highest percentage who viewed Islam as encouraging violence was found in Quebec, 57 per cent. Sikh doctrine is mostly likely to be viewed as violent in the province where about half of Canadian Sikhs live: 30 per cent of British Columbians said they think Sikhism encourages violence.

Angus Reid also took that debate national, asking how far governments should go to accommodate minorities. A strong majority of 62 per cent agree with the statement, “Laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities.” A minority, 29 per cent, agreed with the alternative statement, “On some occasions, it makes sense to modify specific laws and norms to accommodate minorities.” Another nine per cent weren’t sure. In Quebec, 74 per cent were against changing laws or norms, the highest negative response rate on the accommodation question in the country

The Angus Reid poll   found 51 per cent oppose funding of Christian schools, and the level of opposition soars from 68 per cent to 75 per cent for all other religions. On even hotter-button religious issues, opposition is overwhelming. Only 23 per cent would allow veiled voting, and just three per cent Islamic sharia law—an even lower level of support than the eight per cent who would allow polygamy. There’s substantial sympathy for recognizing religious holidays, 45 per cent, but a solid majority still opposes the idea.

 

Three-quarters of Canadian voters who attend evangelical churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite and Pentecostal) opted for the Conservative Party of Canada. In general Protestants, who nominally make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties.

Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are crucifix and their prayers. Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe, and permitted the Jesuits to return to Quebec.”  These enlightened and generous gestures by the British occupiers were extremely well received by the population. And they achieved their immediate political purpose. The territory formerly known as New France or Canada did not, after the Quebec Act, join in the American Revolution. In other words, the Quebec Act changed the course of North American history, and enabled the emergence of Canada nearly a century later, ending any thoughts of an American takeover following the U.S. Civil War. It was, in effect, the religious freedoms guaranteed to Catholics, along with the restoration of French civil law, that guaranteed the survival of the French language and culture on the northern half of this continent.” And those laws. rights were next also  reflected in the Canada’s BNA Act, which in Article 93 guaranteed the place of Catholic and Protestant schools in Quebec. The status of the English-language minority was also protected in Article 133, which guaranteed both French and English as recognized languages and legislature.” Asymmetrical federalism wasn’t invented with the Health Accord of 2004, it has been with us since 1867, and is central to the  Confederation agreement.   http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=481dcae6-9207-4d96-b3ad-834c40fe7e99   

May 25, 2008

Quebec, Canada

Filed under: Christianity, NEWS & POLITICS — Tags: , , , — thenonconformer @ 3:49 pm

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In a motion adopted unanimously by all parties in the National Assembly yesterday, the motion affirms Quebecers’ “attachment to our religious and historic heritage represented by the crucifix” in the assembly. But the motion also reaffirms the promotion of the French language, “the history, culture and values of the Quebec nation in a spirit of openness and reciprocity,” borrowing language from the report. The commissioners suggest that judges, crown prosecutors, police officers, prison guards and the speaker and deputy speaker of the assembly refrain from wearing religious signs. But teachers, civil servants, health professionals and all other government employees could continue to wear religious signs. “The crucifix is about 350 years of history in Quebec that none of us are ever going to erase and of a very strong presence, in particular, of the Catholic church, and that’s our reality.” “As the premier of Quebec, my first role is the supreme responsibility to protect and perpetuate the French language,” and it’s culture, Premier Jean Charest. Charest called on the opposition parties to join the government in adopting Bill 63, which proposes an interpretive clause, affirming the equality of women and men in Quebec’s human rights charter

The Catholics themselves now have not denied that Jesus Christ is Lord God for 2000 years too..

 

How Quebcers differ from the rest of Canada in their views..

The  April 2009 poll, by Angus Reid Strategies for Maclean’s, surveyed 1,002 randomly selected Canadians on religion. 
    RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE: POLL HIGHLIGHTS

    – 70% of Canadians hold a positive view of Christianity

    – 41% hold a positive view of Hinduism

    – 30% hold a positive view of Sikhism

    – 45% believe mainstream Islam encourages violence

    – 44% Nationally would not want their child to marry a person of Jewish faith. Even fewer would be comfortable with a Sikh or a Muslim. In Quebec, that number rises 

    – 62% Nationally  think laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities. In Quebec, that number rises to 74%.

Across Canada, 72 per cent said they have a “generally favourable opinion” of Christianity. At the other end of the spectrum, Islam scored the lowest favourability rating, just 28 per cent. Sikhism didn’t fare much better at 30 per cent, and Hinduism was rated favourably by 41 per cent. Both Buddhism, at 57 per cent, and Judaism, 53 per cent, were rated favourably by more than half the population

A mere 17 per cent of Quebecers said they have a favourable opinion of Islam, and just 15 per cent view Sikhism favourably. Only 36 per cent of Quebecers said they hold a favourable opinion of Judaism, far below the national average, and in sharp contrast to neighbouring Ontario, where 59 per cent expressed a favourable view of the Jewish religion. “ .., all religions were regarded less positively in Quebec than in Canada as a whole, including Christianity, which 67 per cent of Quebecers view favourably, five points below the Canadian average.  Buddhism’s favourability rating of 57 per cent is four points higher than Judaism, . Buddhism was the only religion, including Christianity, for which more than half of people who said they don’t have a friend of that faith held a favourable opinion of it anyway.

When asked if they thought “the mainstream beliefs” of the major religions “encourage violence or are mostly peaceful,” only 10 per cent said they thought Christianity teaches violence. But fully 45 per cent said they believe Islam does, and a sizable 26 per cent saw Sikhism as encouraging violence. By comparison, just 13 per cent perceived violence in Hindu teachings and 14 per cent in Jewish religion. A tiny four per cent said they think of Buddhism as encouraging violence. By far the highest percentage who viewed Islam as encouraging violence was found in Quebec, 57 per cent. Sikh doctrine is mostly likely to be viewed as violent in the province where about half of Canadian Sikhs live: 30 per cent of British Columbians said they think Sikhism encourages violence.

Angus Reid also took that debate national, asking how far governments should go to accommodate minorities. A strong majority of 62 per cent agree with the statement, “Laws and norms should not be modified to accommodate minorities.” A minority, 29 per cent, agreed with the alternative statement, “On some occasions, it makes sense to modify specific laws and norms to accommodate minorities.” Another nine per cent weren’t sure. In Quebec, 74 per cent were against changing laws or norms, the highest negative response rate on the accommodation question in the country

The Angus Reid poll   found 51 per cent oppose funding of Christian schools, and the level of opposition soars from 68 per cent to 75 per cent for all other religions. On even hotter-button religious issues, opposition is overwhelming. Only 23 per cent would allow veiled voting, and just three per cent Islamic sharia law—an even lower level of support than the eight per cent who would allow polygamy. There’s substantial sympathy for recognizing religious holidays, 45 per cent, but a solid majority still opposes the idea.

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Three-quarters of Canadian voters who attend evangelical churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite and Pentecostal) opted for the Conservative Party of Canada. In general Protestants, who nominally make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties.

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