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September 17, 2008

I have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are deceitful..

 

Bad Preachers, ” Spiritual deceivers are spiritual gigolos coming between Me and My Bride the Church.  They are trying to force My redeemed ones back under a dead Law, to whom they are no longer married.  They are spiritual butchers with surgical instruments who want only to “circumcise”  the gullible with just a “little bit” of My Law to cut off “just a little bit of their liberty”….  Preachers forever strive to “bring you under submission”. That seems to be oh, so spiritual, but what they really want is to bring you under bondage to be their slaves.  But beware of bowing your necks to preachers to allow them to put that yoke of bondage upon you ever again.  ” http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id74.html

 
 
I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren Baptists  are liars also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not  give them what they want..
do now see also  the postings on the topic of Control freaks  in http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/
 
 

One of the best way to catch fish, suckers  is to use a snared hook, loaded with live bait. Many Many bad  preachers do use do use genuine live bait, a genuine sounding doctrine, truth  but adding a lie, a hook  also,  to the unsuspecting  naieve person, the bad preacher now telling them, guaranteeing them a  Divine Appointment,  that he will next share with them, and will tell them only the whole truth.. even all now based solely on the solid rock of the preserved Word of God, even as God himself now opens doors for me to touch the lives of others, and WOW, Unbelievable, and sadly YES too often that is true.. suckers are caught with a hook.. in churches, on TV too,   Unbelievable..  all occurring  sadly of course by the PRESENTER, AUTHOR, bad preacher  unacceptably neglecting to tell them all beforehand about the hidden lies, the false snares, hooks of course!!!  

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The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see  God’s whole truths.  Mind you and do note how how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses  the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses,  and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..

I too now have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are most often  deceitful in their evangelical outreach, presentations.. meaning that they speak with a forked tongue, and meaning they generally are not straightforward and honest, immediately forthcoming what they really believe in, who they really are now firstly too, and so we all have to beware of them.. and now I have known much too many of them  too..  and I had next found just a few of them that were really honest, Christians, only a very, very  small portion.

When I look at a new professing Christian site  such as vision20twenty   and it makes the typical general  proclamations that they will next guide and lead us into all truth, and only will offer the whole truth, and that they are also non denominational, real Christians, who now do promote now only the Bible and nothing more than that  and   based on my past encounters, experiences now  I can most often be rest assured they are mere wolves in sheep clothing, the  false Brethren with their false  dispensational doctrines… including now http://vision20twenty.org/ where” God gave man a new dispensation (stewardship) of truth”

There are few Dispensationalist who do even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, many falsely as well do not accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.

 

(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.       
(Luke 6:40 KJV)  The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.    
 

 

(John 17:23 KJV)  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

 

(Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
(Gal 3:3 KJV)  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
(Eph 4:13 KJV)  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
(Rev 3:2 KJV)  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Do see http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/subtle-but-still-false-counterfeit/

(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
(Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
(Acts 20:31 KJV)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
(Acts 20:32 KJV)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
(Acts 20:33 KJV)  I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
(Acts 20:34 KJV)  Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
(2 Tim 3:2 KJV)  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2 Tim 3:3 KJV)  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2 Tim 3:4 KJV)  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2 Tim 3:5 KJV)  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2 Tim 3:6 KJV)  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(2 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

That last line is now  really true..

 IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  
  
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

see also

The too common abusive silent treatment
Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too.
Deliberate unforgiveness
Control freaks
More about Control freaks. Fears  
 
Can a person change?   very very unlikley 
 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/ 

 
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May 29, 2008

Can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

How can anything good be spiritually imparted from Todd Bentley & Lakeland?

I do not even know what you even believe in, never mind if you also do even practice it.. For it is not how much of the Bible you or I  know that counts, but how much you  and I practice it.

 But the first Question I have to you was Todd called specially by God to be a PASTOR, SHEPHERD  TO HIS PEOPLE? or not? I specially do know that God had talked to me and he had asked me to be his pastor for a start! It was not my choice too.

Did you ask God about this?  and what was his reply? After all God still does undeniably speaks to his true people today still.. and you can hear God talking to you.

Who am I to take God’s place in correcting his servant unless God had specially asked me to do so? Did he ask you to do so? Did you talk to Todd face to face next? I have asked many pastors to repent face to face when God told me to do so.

I had attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..

But I know from many years of experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..

and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

It was very interesting fact that the clearly bad pastors of TACF Toronto Airport Church fellowship had resorted to a commercial lawsuit over rather resorting to pray in dealing with one of their critics,

Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now  are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.

It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
It is also absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.

Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”  and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize AND PRACTICE this still too

Tim said ” From what I’ve seen and heard from Todd Bentley (I spent 4 days at the revival), he preaches, and teaches Jesus Christ, and him crucified. He preaches repentance and turning to God with all your heart. People get healed and set free from the demonic in his meetings. You say Todd has a past. You say Todd has non biblical teachings. Well, I have news for you, so do you. None of you, none of us have the perfect speech, preaching, teaching, without any error. Do you honestly believe that all of your own teachings are without ANY error. The cardinal doctrines are what we need to focus on. Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. Salvation through Christ alone, and sanctification by the Spirit of God.”

and I said in reply I know undeniably that the Pentecostal pastors had slandered, abused my own twin brother too… and even the Baptist , Brethren, Pentecostal pastors had lied about me, slandered me too often too.
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  Reponses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook.

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/our-god-speaks-too/

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