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December 28, 2013

You are a Messianic Jew?

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 You are a Messianic Jew? But there really is no such thing in the whole New testament.. all the Jews became Christians.. https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/the-dangers-of-the-hebrew-roots-messianic-movement/

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It is a fact that if you base even your Christian theology on the Old Testament alone you will be in serious error. Major, major error. 

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/left-out-of-the-kingdom-of-god-jews-included/

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Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The   answer is no.
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Though Christianity began as a Jewish sect, it quickly became an all-gentile affair. Indeed, Christians came to understand themselves as people who by definition were not Jewish and who believed that Christianity had “superseded” Judaism — that is, “taken its seat” of favor before God
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The word “Jew” next rather came to mean those who had denied Christ, even murdered him, having been unable to see their own scripture’s clear prediction of his coming
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The false need of the Jewish Christian to keep their Jewish identity is a direct result, proof that they have not given up  all to Jesus, as Jesus Christ is not the sole lord of their life still.
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And just as many people convert to Judaism, and become Jews, those who convert out of Judaism are no longer Jews
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Many people, Messianc Jews  included erroneously believe that, just as one can be black and Christian, just as one can be oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. This misconception has no  truth to it.This is total nonsense because God’s  covenant with Abraham was a religious covenant, not racial. 
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“Daniel Rufeisen was born Jewish, of two Jewish parents. Because of the nazi persecutions, his parents hid him with a couple who were Catholic. But, they raised him as a Catholic, and he became a Catholic priest. Father Daniel, aware of his parents’ heritage, went to Israel and applied to become a citizen of Israel under the Law of Return. The Israeli Supreme Court denied his application, stating that, since he converted, he was no longer a Jew. He had to wait the customary time for any other non-Jew to become a naturalized Israeli citizen, just as in the United States, one has to wait 6 years in order to become a naturalized United States citizen. “
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“ Another instance of a born-Jew being denied his/her rights is shown in the case of Malvern Jacobs, a prominent Messianic minister and a certified minister of the United Church, who died in late June, 1998. His family and followers attempted to bury him in Toronto’s Pardes Shalom Cemetery. However, just before the body was brought to the cemetery, the Toronto Council of Orthodox Rabbis ruled that Jacobs was not a Jew because of his conversion to Christianity and ordered the gate to the cemetery chained and locked to prevent the body from being buried there. That led to a four hour stand-off between the mourners and cemetery officials, and the eventual return of the body to the funeral home.  The body was buried the next day in a non-sectarian cemetery. According to the Toronto Sun, Jacobs was an ordained Christian minister and was dean of the Canada Christian College in Toronto. The Sun quoted family members saying that Jacobs believed in Jesus since age 9. Yet, his family claimed he never converted. “My father was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, was involved in the Jewish community, and wanted to die with dignity and pride as a Jew,” said Leslie Jacobs, 48. “He never converted.”  The Sun also noted that Jacobs started what was the largest Messianic congregation, Melech Yisrael, in North York, more than 25 years ago. According to Scott Hillman, Education Director of Jews for Judaism, Jacobs was personally responsible for the establishment of 12 messianic congregations in Canada. These stories are show the solid instances of why Jews who accept Christianity are no longer considered Jewish.”
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There are so called Christian Jews  that call themselves ‘Messianic Jews’ whose faith is totally alien to the Jewish faith, or Christian faith and members of these groups who were born to Jewish parents have a status of apostates who removed themselves from the Jewish Nation.
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That ‘Messianics’  are considered and accepted as Jews is unheard of. A Jew who believes in Jesus as his/her “Lord and Savior” has become a Christian and is no longer a Jew.
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So long as one remains a Christian, one is no longer a Jew. But if one wishes to return to Judaism, then one is no longer a Christian. So long as one believes that Jesus was anything more than a human being who lived and died around 2,000 years ago, that person cannot convert to Judaism, and become a Jew.
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The two faiths of Judaism and Christianity are simply mutually exclusive, and they are not compatible.
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You were born Jewish, but believe in another religion, and want to be recognized as a Jew? That is simple! Simply reject your other belief system, and go back to the dead Judaism.
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Christianity and rabbinic Judaism emerged as rival claimants to continuity with Israel after the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD.
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Especially troubling to Jews is that Christian missionary efforts like Avodat Yisrael seem duplicitous. Messianic Jews use altered English or Hebrew words for traditionally Christian terms in an effort to display a Jewish form of Christianity. The baptismal process is called a mikveh. for example, and the New Testament is the New Covenant or the B’rit Chadashah. Christian symbols like the cross are removed or put to the side. Some Messianic Jews lie and say they are not Christians, but Jewish followers of “Rabbi Yeshua.”
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Yet the question still too often arises: Can a practicing Jew also believe in Jesus?  Never.
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The question arises in a forceful way especially with the presence of “Messianic Jews,” who claim that their profession of Jesus as messiah and Lord does not invalidate their Jewish identity and practice.
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The worship practices of Messianic Jews resemble those of the synagogue, but their false theology is partial to that of evangelical Christians — who often fund missions to the Jews.
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No Jews or non Jews never the less should still continue to observe the Torah after embracing Jesus as their Messiah. 
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Many Messianic Jews call themselves “completed” or “fulfilled” Jews, indicating not only that one can be Jewish and believe in Jesus, but that every Jew ought to.
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The existence of Messianic Jews makes both Jews and mainline Protestants uneasy, if not angry, betrayed as they tend to be really an antichrist, unkind, offensive, full of hatred, bitterness.
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As per the Words of Jesus.. no man can serve two masters so you cannot serve Jesus and the devil, the Jewish Antichrist Yeshua.. if you do so  you are clearly double minded,  confused, demonic..
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The English  Bible still only uses Jesus and not Yeshua.. or what ever. The false need of the Jewish Christian to keep their Jewish identity is a direct result, proof that they have not given up  all to Jesus, as Jesus Christ is not the sole lord of their life still.
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It seems on many Christians supposedly sites you will find a Jewish Messianic Devil trying to sneak in claiming falsely to be a Christian still today.. and why are they false?
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They are repeating Messianic Jewish lies only, as there is no such thing as a true Messianic Jew even only Real Christians .
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Their Yahshua is the Jewish demonic antichrist. Any “Jew” or “Noahide”  (Luciferian, in reality) who claims to be Saved without Jesus commits Blasphemy against Jesus the Christ and against God who sent Him. The claim of being Saved without Christ is Blasphemy because it slanders Christ as a liar by claiming His words in John 14:6 to have been a lie “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”  
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“Why do most Jews, Messianic  Jews  reject Jesus?”  The Answer: What   do they do with Jesus Christ?   These Jews rejected Jesus Christ  because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of  the world. Dream on.. https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/why-do-most-jews-messianic-jews-reject-jesus-choose-yeshua-instead/
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“An Antichrist according to John is anyone who denies that Jesus Messiah has come in the flesh (1John 4:3). An antichrist is also anyone who denies the Father and the Son (1John 2:22). The term “Father” means God and the term “Son” means Jesus Messiah. John says that who ever denies the Son (Jesus Messiah) has denied the Father also, but who ever acknowledges (confesses) the Son has the Father also (1John 2:23).
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The test of antichrist must be given to the Jews first since the Gospel is to them first. Then the test is given to the Gentiles. The offer of salvation through the New Covenant is a test to see if the soul receiving the testimony will be an antichrist or a Messianic believer. There are many who are antichrist who do not know it. There are many who are antichrist who know it and do not care. These are those out in the world still denying that Jesus is the Messiah and are the ones everywhere trying to blot out his name from the earth. The blot out plot is to either deny his name altogether or to claim it is false and his real name is Yahshua or some other claimed Jewish spelling. One test of antichrist is that if they try to blot out the name of Jesus by any means, they are identified with the beast system even before it is revealed.
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. As per the Yahwist who do believe the Father’s name is Yahweh and the Son’s name is Yahshua. They falsely believe anyone preaching the name of Jesus is lost and should be regarded as a devil. They side with Talmudic Jews against the Jesus Name people. They agree with the different Messianic Jews groups regarding the alleged restoration of future of bloodline antichrist Jews who keep the Torah. They teach Jewish eschatology and believe their prophecy views teaching that there must be a revival to the Jews but do not see these Jews correctly as antichrist Jews, etc. They teach that if indeed in foreign countries people speak in tongues and say the name of Jesus, that it is not the Holy Ghost but a demon spirit. They use several arguments to try to prove the name of Jesus is pagan or false, which is hypocritical because they accept the name of Yahweh which has a pagan origin itself. The name of God which was revealed to Moses was “ehyeh asher ehyeh” which is said to mean I AM that I AM. When studying the name of Jesus, you can find that it came from that same name as EHYEH.
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One of the most notorious of the Yahwist’ organizations is the Truth Restoration Ministry headed by Darren Holliday. Mr. Holliday is affiliated with the Assemblies of Yahweh in Bethel, Pennsylvania, where Jacob O’Meyer is the leading prophet. He is no longer with his wife Amanda because his antics and hatred against the name of Jesus appears to have filtered over into his marriage relationship. Mr. Holliday projects the Yahweh attitude exactly, displaying a haughty spirit, is heady and high-minded, is a blasphemer, and who will stop at nothing to join with Talmudic Jews to blot out the name of Jesus from the earth”
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”The trouble with the Messianic Jews is that most of them falsely still reject the name of Jesus and therefore refer to Him by several names, mostly Yahshua. Many claim that Jews whether they believe Jesus is the Messiah or not, are still God’s people and therefore saved under the Old Covenant that God made with Abraham. They claim the New Covenant is the Old Covenant exactly except one new addition, Messiah Jesus. They believe the Laws of the Old Covenant should be observed today exactly as they were back in the days of Moses and David. They believe in kosher eating habits, keeping the feast days in the book of Leviticus including the Sabbath which they aggressively state is Saturday. They hold to the Old Testament levitical priesthood being still in force and many advocate animal sacrifices (some believe animal sacrifices should wait until the third temple is built). They consistently argue and fight on the side of Talmudic Jew’s for reclaiming all of Jerusalem back so the third temple can be built and God’s Spirit will dwell there again. They are adamantly opposed to replacement theology which teaches that Christ’s Church (Matt. 16:18) replaced the Temple and converts to the Kingdom of God replaced unbelieving Jews as God’s only people. They reject that all Jews must enter Christ’s Church to be accepted by God. The 1948 reinstatement of the nation of Israel to be ordained by God and thus believe this proves Jews are still God’s people whether they believe in Jesus is the Messiah or not. I don’t follow this persuasion because God promise in the Old Covenant to NEVER allow curses to come upon them if they stayed true to Him (which the Holocaust was no blessing). Curses have come upon the Jews because they apostated and refused to return to God the way God prescribed.
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The Jews as a whole have never repented and turned to God according to the Scriptures, therefore they can only be under the curse until they do. The 1948 establishment of Israel as a nation was based upon rejecting Jesus as the Messiah and accepting the Gospel. They have tried to pass laws for make it illegal to speak and witness the name of Jesus in Jerusalem. So there was no heavenly reason for their restitution in 1948. Basically, the revival of the state of Israel and the soon third temple will be making a path for the antichrist and the book of Revelation says all the world will wonder after the beast. The New Testament clearly makes it evident that we do not need a third temple in Jerusalem for God does not dwell in places made of brick any longer and especially since Revelation states that the New Jerusalem will have no temple. Jesus replaced the temple and He is the only vessel (which includes the Church) in which God’s Spirit dwells . Most Messianic Jews teach that the third temple will be built and the Old Testament Levitical priesthood will be reinstated and this will be ordained by God. They use Old Testament prophetic scriptures, which actually apply to Jerusalem’s second restoration from Babylon shortly before the coming of Jesus Messiah. The claim that when their messiah comes He will rule from a third temple and everyone will eternally keep the Old Testament Laws (all 613 which must include death penalty laws), including animal sacrifices, feast days, kosher eating habits, a Levitical and Aaronic high priesthood. Some Gentile dispensationalist believe animal sacrifices will be offered up to Jesus! These claim that bloodline Jews will have all the high positions of authority over the nations while those in Christ’s Church will just be included in as people with good behavior (Noahides). Messianic Jews are still headed to hell..
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Jerusalem is the city which rests on seven mountains in the book of Revelation and is therefore the Whore of Babylon. Jerusalem follows the paganism of Talmudism and the Kabbalah, a form of Jewish mysticism. a revival . The Jewish temple and Torah keeping will be reinstated and the Jews will crown an earthly Jewish messiah who will be the antichrist and be supported by a supposedly Jewish False Prophet. .
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The Battle of Armageddon will not be a war against Jews but against the Messiah’s Kingdom and against His Saints. Notice Revelation states nothing of the battle being against Jews, it is they who make war with the Lamb, Jesus, but He destroys them all with the brightness of His coming.
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Actually the New Testament, like a newspaper, merely reflects the true condition of Judaism at that time. If someone could prove that damaging descriptions of Jews never appeared before the New Testament, that would be one thing. But during many centuries prior to Jesus or any Christians, Jews were saying and doing the same things that we find them still saying and doing during New Testament days!   They falsely still do claim that the  Jews were not responsible for the death of Messiah the world. They lie when they say Messianic Jews is actually the first church as the Church was neither Jew nor Greek, but Christian. 
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  Messianic Jews lie a lot too, they are bullies, brain dead ostriches in denial, racists, slanderers and can’t seem to have a decent discussion with them without their resorting to name calling.. they say ‘ This article is offensive and antisemitic’
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 If the New Testament record of their words and works is “anti-Semitic,” is the Old Testament record of the same rebelliousness just as “anti-Semitic”?  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
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In the future when “hate” laws are passed, will the undeniably  hate-filled Talmud and some Jewish hate-promoting film studios still    be swept under the rug?
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  They also still  lie when they  say  ‘ the Catholic church changed the Sabbath and introduced paganism into Christianity ‘ even the observance of Christmas and Easter cause they still do hate Jesus Christ.

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The false loathing of Christianity is one reason why many especialy jews, Messianc Jews continue to repeat the claim that Christmas is a repurposing of a pagan Roman holiday. The celebration of Saturnalia, which honored the Roman god Saturn, or the Dies Natalis of Sol Invictus, that is the “Birthday of the Unconquerable Sun.” Both of these celebrations were held in the second half of December, making them somewhat close to Christmas. If Christmas was create to supplant Saturnalia, the Christians would have chosen December 17th. Add to that the references I noted yesterday about the December 25th date stretching all the way back to A.D. 200 and you have a very real dating problem with Saturnalia being the origin date for Christmas. Christmas is not a response to a pagan celebration such as Saturnalia but it has Christian roots. 202 to 211 AD mark where Hippolytus ties December 25 to Jesus’s birth

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A feast to Sol Invictus (the Unconquered Sun) did occur on December 25, but the earliest evidence for it dates from the mid to late 4th century. which is mychafter the Christian practice of Christmas

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In reality December 25 first became associated with the Nativity, which is how the early church would have referred to the day of Christ’s birth.

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Much of the thrust of the “pagan Christmas” theory rests on the idea of a Christianized Rome trying to convert a populace that wouldn’t want to give up its secular feast traditions

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But in reality the marking of December 25 goes much earlier, before this period in Christian history.

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The ‘ Commentary on Daniel, written just after AD 200, notes that five of the seven manuscripts contain December 25 as the date

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Hippolytus in 202-211 AD set the date for the birth of Jesus on December 25, because he thought Jesus was conceived 9 months earlier on the Passover, the day in which he also thought the world was created (5500 years earlier), the Vernal Equinox March 25.

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Clement of Alexandria (193-215 AD) quoted various anonymous sources about the birth of Jesus and roughly agrees with Hippolytus, claiming that Jesus was born in late fall to early winter. Clement’s sources clearly seem to believe that Jesus was conceived on the Passover and was born roughly 9 months later;

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Augustine wrote ” He was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th.”

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The idea of the church randomly choosing a pagan date is a big stretch. If Christians were recognizing the birth of Christ by the beginning of the third century, does it make sense to think that this was rather a fourth century invention to sway the Roman populous over to Christianity?

http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/…/no-christmas-is-n…

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THE DESTRUCTIVE LIES OF THE HEBREW ROOTS MOVEMENT

Titus 1:10-11
10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially THOSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION, 11 whose MOUTHS MUST BE STOPPED, who SUBVERT WHOLE HOUSEHOLDS, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.

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The phrase “those of the circumcision” refers to Judaizers – and that is what the Hebrew Roots Movement (HRM) is – a bunch of Judaizers. They don’t like to admit that, but that’s really what they are. And much of the New Testament is devoted to warning Christians about Judaizers. In the past there were groups like the Seventh Day Adventists and the Worldwide Church of God which embraced Judaizing doctrine. But the modern-day manifestation of this heresy, the Hebrew Roots Movement, is particularly destructive. They are particularly aggressive and they spread on the Internet like a cancer

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h “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her, -how often I wanted to gather your children, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But you people did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you.” – Matthew 23:37,38

https://www.facebook.com/HebrewRootsHeresy/

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“Why do most Jews, Messianic Jews reject Jesus?” The Answer: What do they do with Jesus Christ? These Jews rejected Jesus Christ because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of the world. Dream on..

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Christmas marks Christ’s birthday and it honors Him

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While many falsely legalists, unloving and non Holy Spirit filled persons, still are  also falsely preaching the exact observation of the laws over honouring the spirit of the law.. this is why they do falsely want to insert the old testament falsely into the New Testament to.

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And if obeying Religion  a Judaic one included can save one from then why was Jesus death required for us to be saved from Hell?

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The New Testament also does not prohibit pictures of Jesus nor our observing Christmas, Easter..

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I found out that some of the past leaders of my people lied when it came to science, women, children, non-Jews, and Christianity and its leader. I found out that Jesus is the only Messiah and Saviour for everyone on earth. I found out a lot when I prayed to Jesus and said “If you really are who you say you are in the New Testament, please reveal yourself to me and I will follow and trust you forever.”
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Guess what. He did and I have been. Sure there are cheap imitations of the real thing (anything of value is counterfeited), but once you really connect with Jesus, you’ll know everything you need to know about salvation—your own salvation! . Not only is genuine salvation free, it makes a person free!”
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The blessing given to Abraham comes to the non-Jews (Gentiles or Greeks) through faith in Christ Jesus. Natural ancestry doesn’t help or hinder. It is by faith in Messiah Jesus that we receive the promise of the Spirit and become God’s children. Do not be deceived by those that magnify Jewish feast days, ancestry, customs, the Saturday Sabbath and try to get you to observe the law of Moses. They might claim they are just like the early Christians but they are not as has already been proven.

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We are called to be Christians and not reformed Jews.. Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers. They are mostly parrots repeating what they heard others say. We all do need to study the Bible more seriously.. to be Holy Spirit filled now too

The greatest problem facing the Jew today, whether Rich or Poor, Is that they will not recognize that when the Scepter was removed from Judah, Gen. 49:10, that Shiloh {or Christ} would replace the physical Covenant made with Israel with the Spiritual Covenant; that God mentions in Jer. 31:27-37, it is clear that they are a nation no more, yet the acceptance of Christ and His Gospel will produce Spiritual Israel; And then they can read Isaiah chapters 2, 9, 11, 51, 52, 53, and understand; that it was Christ they Murdered in Cold Blood, and that Judaism is dead. The Jews has never accepted the Gentiles, even though Abraham was a Gentile. Plainly it is a show of ignorance on the part of the Jew; for the Holy Spirit commanded in Eph. 2:8-16 that the Blood of Jesus Christ made them into one nation with the Gentiles. Yet that hatred remains.

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Messianic Judaism is not just Christianity for Jews or even Christianity in a Jewish context. It is the modern equivalent of the “Judaizers” who plagued the New Testament in the time of the apostles. Today, as then, they attempt to bring both Gentile “proselytes” and Jews into bondage to law. Paul told Peter he “stood condemned” for allowing such Judaizers to again impose the bondage of circumcision. (Galatians 2) But many of today’s Messianic Judaizers want to do much more: impose not just mandatory circumcision on their followers but the entirety of the Old Testament law! 

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Furthermore God whose Name is Yahweh in Hebrew who became flesh and made Himself known TODAY  by His Greek Name which is Jesus AND is solely  used and applicable,  the Greek Name even meaning Christos, the anointed one who anoints one with the Holy Spirit and not any of the Hebrew names..  No Jews personal  praise   of God is now even accepted by God especially in their   even their unredeemed and  sinful state,  sins now. Their praise do not reach God  as their uncovered  sins  suffocate them. Nor does God approve of the Jews as even  having have any further rights to the promised land anymore as well.. 

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“Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”  Even the Messianic Jews are falsely as antagonistic to Christianity as traditional Jews are. For Messianic Jews to respond with such a level of disdain brings to mind the words of Paul, “You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?” And, “If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.”
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The Messianic Judaism  is now falsely  obsessed with taking over from both religions, especially Christianity. Messianic Judaism is no longer  a proper conduit especially suitable for spreading spiritual  Christian truth precisely because it has not obtained the status of either Non-Messianic Judaism or real Christianity. Judaism and Messianic Judaism are both embroiled in religious politics and the insatiable desire for wealth and power. Messianic Jews seem to want to wrest power and resources away from Christianity and be corrupted by the same influences that have so greatly hindered Christianity’s effectiveness.
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If Messianic Jews truly believe in what they practice, what does it matter if Christians, Jews, atheists, or anyone else criticizes them?  Instead of worrying about Jewish acceptance, Messianic Jews should occupy themselves with knowing God and being accepted by Him. Instead of falsely  battling Christians, Messianic Jews should seek to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind”[3] and “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Messianic Jews should work on growing spiritually and building each other up, that they may glorify the Lord. “And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.” Instead of their falsely focusing on proving to Christians that the Torah is still in effect.. “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.” Become real Christians not merely still  pretenders, imposters, wolves in sheep clothing.
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AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU.  And does  God still show false partiality? to the Christians? or to the Jews? Arabs? NO.. they all will reap what they sow, had sowed on this earth as well as here after. Reality

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Why did so many Jews, Messianic Jews hate Jesus Christ , the Church and persecute the Christians? They will not go to a Christian church falsely too.  Some people have the impression that Jewish hostility for Christianity began only after Jews experienced persecution by Christians. Actually, Jewish hostility toward Jesus Christ and His church has been ongoing for the last 2000 years still. The main problem still is that the Jews hate the  New Testament and the New People of God , the Christians, Apostle Paul too..  even Jesus in reality..  Jews today still have the mindset of Jesus’ enemies in the first century, The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most  JEWS  is  that they are color blind.. they can only see things through a Jewish  perspective.. not the reality.. I’ve never felt so HATED for being a real  Christian in all my life like I have been by the false Jewish only lovers and Messianic Jews !.

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Jesus taught that Jewish nationalism and commitment to the “oral law” (“traditions of men”) distorted the purpose of the written law (Torah) (Mark 7:1-20). He declared that Israel’s dominant religious leaders were not in the tradition of Moses, David, and the prophets, but were servants of Satan (John 8:37-44). Their “Judaism” depended on legal righteousness based in “oral law” (the “traditions of men”; see Mark 7:1-23) and “works” that artificially distinguished them from the Gentiles whom they regarded as ritualistically unclean. Adherents of this perspective believed that their legal righteousness would assure them of the future Messiah’s approval when he appeared on the scene to cast off the Roman yoke and institute worldwide Jewish rule.
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John the Baptist proclaimed the worthlessness of legalistic righteousness (Matthew 3:1-12), and Jesus declared that the legalistic righteousness of the Pharisees was pitted against the genuine law of God He had come to uphold.
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Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-20 NIV).
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Instead of leading them toward fulfillment of the promises God had given Israel, their legalistically based self-righteousness motivated them to reject and kill the Messiah and His followers (Matthew 21:23-46; John 8:42-59; Acts 4-5; 7-9; 12:1f; 13:42-51; 14:2-5; 14:19; 17-18; 24:5; 26:9-11; Galatians 1:11-16; 4:29; Philippians 3:5-7; 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).
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Jesus himself and the Apostles also called into question the meaning of the primary Jewish symbols—Sabbath, food taboos, ethnic identity, ancestral lands, and ultimately the Temple itself..  Jesus was claiming to be speaking for Israel’s God, her scriptures, and her true vocation. Israel was trusting in her ancestral religious symbols; Jesus was claiming to speak for the reality to which those symbols pointed, and to show that, by her concentration on them, Israel had turned inwards upon herself and was being not only disobedient, but dangerously disobedient, to her God’s vision for her, his vocation that she should be the exemplary light of the world. Jesus’ Jewish contemporaries, however, could not but regard someone doing and saying these things as a deceiver. His agenda clashed at every point with theirs. In symbol, as in praxis and story, his way of what being Israel meant, his way of loyalty to Israel’s God, was rightfully radically different from what  theirs.had falsely become. The clash between Jesus and his Jewish contemporaries, especially the Pharisees, must be seen in terms of their false alternative political agendas generated by their false alternative eschatological beliefs and expectations. Earthly Zionism now included. Jesus had definitely announced His kingdom in a way which did not reinforce but rather called into question, the agenda of revolutionary zeal which dominated the horizon of the Jews, especially, the dominant group within Pharisaism. It is not to be wondered at, therefore, that he Jesus had rightfully called into question the great emphases on those symbols which had become the focal points of that zeal: Sabbath, food taboos, ethnic identity, ancestral lands, and ultimately the Temple itself.  The symbols had become enacted codes for the aspirations of his contemporaries. Their Judaic  religion had become a false one. Jesus, thus  in challenging the Jews to His Way , was ‘speaking against the Torah’ per se. He was even  ‘speaking against’ the idea of Israel as the still only chosen people of the one true God.  .

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Messianic Jews and Christians tend to still even differ as to how they see the forming of  the Christian church. For the Messianic Jews the Church was composed  originally of mainly Jewish speaking Apostles , Jews and is a reformed version Judaism..the New testament was supposedly originally written in Hebrew  even if there is absolutely no sub satiating go it anywhere,  and the  Apostle Paul is disliked cause he betrays Judaism,  But for the Christians the church is composed of Greek speaking apostles and Gentiles ,,and the Apostle Paul is liked cause he helps to bring Salvation to the gentiles..the New Testament was written originally in Greek and there is loads of evidence of this.  Many people fail to realize the significant effect the Greeks and Romans by their conquests had on the language usages in the middle east, the areas of the Greek and Roman Empire, even at the time of Jesus Christ . Now the historical Jesus primarily spoke Greek and Aramaic  perhaps along with some Hebrew  although there is some debate as to the degree? The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum, where Jesus lived, were primarily both Greek and Aramaic-speaking communities? although Greek solely was widely spoken especially in the major cities of the Eastern Mediterranean such as Antioch and Alexandria. Aramaic remained an alternative  common language of Palestine in the 1st century AD, despite the subsequent Macedonian-Greek (331 BC) and Roman (63 BC) invasions?  Indeed, in spite of the increasing importance of Greek, the use of Aramaic was supposedly also expanding, and it would  remain so until the Arab conquest in the 7th century.   Most of the apostles from the Galilee region also spoke Greek, Aramaic. The message of Christianity spread (primarily among Greek  Aramaic-speaking enclaves) throughout Judaea, Syria and Mesopotamia, and even to Kerala, India even in Greek.. as the New testament was written in Greek Forget the Messianic Jews spin doctors,  Messianic Jews  still tend to be liars who tend to hate Christians, the Church..  Look it should be very clear to anyone who reads the Bible honestly the Greek language and a majority of Greek speaking gentiles  was a norm in the early church..

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The problem with Messianic Jews is..
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(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
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Matthew 23: 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

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Luke 13: 35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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Acts 1″ 20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

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Now as per the lies of the false Zionism, Christian Zionism Movement;  who is really “blessing Israel;” those persons  who are working for peace in the Middle East, or those false persons with a hidden agenda who are agitating for a war designed next to get two-thirds of all Jews wiped out
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ZIONISM IS STILL THE REAL ENEMY OF ALL JEWS AND ALL CHRISTIANS

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Zionism is a movement that claims to be based on the Bible, but  it is actually contrary to what the Bible teaches. All Christians should repudiate Zionism and should work for a peace settlement in the Middle East that will be of mutual benefit to Abraham’s Jewish and Arab children in Palestine.   
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
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It is amazing how new testament Bible ignorant persons falsely dispute the facts about Jews, Israel and Messianic Jews.. The New Covenant, the New testament, has replaced the Old Covenant, the old Testament.. the New Covenant is not a continuation of the old but it’s substitute.  Judaism, plus JEWS   are now dead to God and is Satanic! “…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” —Revelation 2:9  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/11/12/the-inheritance-of-abraham-a-report-on-the-promised-land/
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It is ALSO a documented fact that when the Ten Tribes of Joseph, known as “Israel or Ephraim,” were taken into “captivity” in c.800 BCE by Assyria, they ceased to exist as a separate people because they lost their use of their Aramaic/Hebrew language and their sense of Israelite tribal identity. Their Conquests by the Greeks, Romans had helped to further this..   http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/

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Now after King  Solomon’s death they split into two completely separate and independent kingdoms – the southern kingdom of ‘Judah,’ consisting of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, with part of Levi since the Levites were distributed among the other tribes (1 Kings 12:23) with their capital at Jerusalem, and the northern kingdom of ‘Israel,’ consisting of the other ten tribes (Reuben, Simeon, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Ephraim and Manasseh (Joseph was divided into Ephraim and Manasseh), with part of Levi since the Levites were distributed among the other tribes), with their capital up in Samaria.
     “Israel and Judah were never united again… Surprisingly, they even fought wars against each other from time to time… A very important fact that many do not realize is that Judah, that is, the Jewish people of today, are only one of the tribes of Israel – while all Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews.
     “Because of their forsaking of Him, God permitted the two kingdoms to be destroyed. First, the northern kingdom of Israel was gradually conquered by the Assyrians,… and by 721 B.C. they had practically all been taken into exile to Assyria (2 Kings 17:1-23). The vast majority of them never returned, and have become known as the ‘Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.’
    “Then, about 135 years later, by 586 B.C., the southern kingdom of Judah was completely conquered by the Babylonians,… and the people of Judah were taken into captivity to Babylon. The original Temple of God in Jerusalem was destroyed at that time… The people of the southern kingdom of Judah however did return after the Babylonians fell to the Persians…, and their descendants have become the Jewish people of today – but that return in the time of Nehemiah, or the founding of the modern state of Israel in 1948, were not the fulfillment of the many prophecies dealing with the future (as the context of the prophecies clearly show) gathering of all of Israel, Israel and Judah.”
The designation “Jew” belonged exclusively to the southern kingdom of Judah, the very word “Jew” having been derived from “Judah.”  And so technically, only the kingdom of Judah was “Jewish” and the other tribes of Israel have no right to call themselves Jews. That this distinction was understood in the Old Testament is seen in II Kings 16:5-6 (KJV) where the people of Israel and the King of Syria fought against the “Jews” of the southern kingdom.
In the New Testament, in His message to the Church at Smyrna, the Lord Jesus Christ referred to a “synagogue of Satan” as “them which say they are Jews, and are not.” In other words, there was a synagogue of Israel that was not Jewish:
“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” (Rev. 2:9-10)
The present “Synagogue of Satan” which is Israel must not be confused with the “Remnant” of Jews, who will receive the Lord Jesus Christ at His Second Coming and be saved by Him. The Synagogue of Satan are an occult power elite which, the Zionists driven Jews having rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel, conspire to substitute another messiah made in the image of their master, Satan, and to establish a world kingdom under Satan. The Synagogue of Satan claims Jewish descent, but does not fit God’s definition of a Jew, either in the Old Testament or the New: “But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” (Romans 2:29)  the Synagogue of Satan have conspired to eliminate all people, whether Jew or Gentile, who stand in the way of their world kingdom. Through the centuries, the Synagogue of Satan have, by means of false identities, infiltrated Gentile institutions where they act as agents provocateurs—undercover agents who provoke violence and beget scandals, which are used to bring reproach upon Jesus Christ and His Church.   About the Jewish Babylom  “Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcastically say ‘Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope… Order has been reestablished.’ The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican’s wealth. The Jewish Ency., vol. 2, p. 497 states, ‘It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are guardians of the papal treasure.’ Researcher Eustace Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823.  Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system.” (Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines, p.154)” During the Middle Ages, the infiltration and conquest of Christendom was achieved by two methods. The Inquisition, which started in Spain in 1478, forced multitudes of Jews to renounce Judaism and to embrace Catholicism; these “converts” were called Conversos. Conversos typically went through the motions of the Roman Catholic religion, but remained Jews inwardly and practiced their Jewish rites in the privacy of their homes. Other Jews, called Marranos (swine), feigned conversion to Christianity and practiced Roman Catholicism outwardly, while practicing Judaism, or Cabalism, privately. A number of Marranos took positions in the clergy. The motive of Conversos was self-preservation; the Marranos, destruction of the Church and all things Christian. The result of these parallel operations was the Jewish occupation of the Roman Catholic Church and the false Jewish Zionist transformation into “MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

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SEE ALSO

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/there-is-no-new-testament-substation-by-god-jesus-the-apostles-for-israel-right-to-return-to-the-promised-land-in-1948/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/in-false-desperation-jews/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/many-jews-even-messianic-jews-lie-about-christianity/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/the-problem-even-with-the-messianic-jews-is/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/the-reality-about-messianic-jews/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/jesus-christ-the-cornerstone/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/the-gospel-of-christ/

http://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/the-big-difference-between-christianity-and-judaism/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/my-hearts-desire-and-prayer-to-god-also-is-for-israel-to-be-saved/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-problem-even-with-the-messianic-jews-is/   

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/what-happened-to-the-promised-land/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/do-we-all-realy-now-need-to-support-the-jews-now-why/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/canadian-jews-falsey-object-to-the-truth-being-displayed/

http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVstudies/GospelAccounts/a47FallOfJerusalem.html

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/criticism-of-israel-is-not-anti-semitic/

http://sacredtruths.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/those-unacceptable-persons-bullies-abuserscontrol-freaks-liars-slanderers/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/the-war-between-the-world-the-flesh-the-devil-and-jesus-christ-gods-holy-spirit/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/what-part-about-free-speech-do-you-not-understand/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/racist/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/slander-who-says-so/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

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July 29, 2008

The 2 Promised Returns of Jews to Israel?

(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  24:1  And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple.  2  And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.  

I do also believe that God divinely still looks after Israel and protects it, but this is never a justification of any of Israel’s past or present acts..  

 
  The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament. It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no  God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too.  after their second  dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even  for  the Jewish  return in 1948..  Do try prove me wrong.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/
 

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 … This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

“Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).

“And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).

And  the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ

“For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith”   Romans 4:13

 “Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.

 , “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”  Galatians 3:29

“And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).

Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now  certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel  earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for israel as many Jews, some professing Christians  falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.

 

It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been  so easily misled by others. 

I really get sick every time I hear preachers such as John Hagee and Jerry Falwell demonize the Arab people, while glorifying the Jews. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ” http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

Often we hear Zionists claim to the promised land if Israel today and supposedly justified from the Bible, based on isolated verses  or those in the Old Testament, not many frOm the New Testament for sure.. Any honest persons reading the Bible should admit that it was not the gentiles, But God himself had on two occasions in history now removed the Jews from the land of Israel,  and like most of the other nations of world  Israel now too Israel itself is not perfect and does not fully follow after God as it firstly has been commanded to do so too. They also should read their own Bible as to the reasons they were dispelled the first time.. 
 
Jer 34:8 [This is] the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem to proclaim liberty to them:
Jer 34:9
Every man should let his Hebrew slaves, male and female, go free, so that no one should make a slave of a Jew, his brother.
Jer 34:10
And all the princes and all the people obeyed, who had entered into the covenant that everyone would let his manservant and his maidservant go free, so that none should make bondmen of them any more; they obeyed, and let them go.
Jer 34:11
But afterward they turned around and caused the servants and the handmaids whom they had let go free to return [to their former masters] and brought them into subjection for servants and for handmaids.
Jer 34:12
Therefore the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
Jer 34:13
Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, saying,
Jer 34:14
At the end of seven years you shall let every man his brother who is a Hebrew go free who has sold himself {or} has been sold to you and has served you six years; but your fathers did not listen to {and} obey Me or incline their ear [submitting and consenting to Me].
Jer 34:15
And you recently turned around {and} repented, doing what was right in My sight by proclaiming liberty each one to his neighbor [who was his bond servant]; and you made a covenant {or} pledge before Me in the house which is called by My Name.
Jer 34:16
But then you turned around and defiled My name; each of you caused to return to you your servants, male and female, whom you had set free as they might desire; and you brought them into subjection again to be your slaves.
Jer 34:17
Therefore thus says the Lord: You have not listened to Me {and} obeyed Me in proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and neighbor. Behold, I proclaim to you liberty–to the sword, to pestilence, and to famine, says the Lord; and I will make you to be tossed to and fro {and} to be a horror among all the kingdoms of the earth!
Jer 34:18
And the men who have transgressed My covenant, who have not kept the terms of the covenant {or} solemn pledge which they had made before Me, I will make them [like] the [sacrificial] calf which they cut in two and then passed between its separated parts [solemnizing their pledge to Me]–I will make those men the calf!
Jer 34:19
The princes of Judah, the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, the priests, and all the people of the land who passed between the parts of the calf,
Jer 34:20
I will give them into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life. And their dead bodies will be food for the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the earth.
Jer 34:21
And Zedekiah king of Judah and his princes will I give into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life, and into the hand of the king of Babylon’s army which has withdrawn from you.
Jer 34:22 Behold, I will command, says the Lord, and cause them [the Chaldeans] to return to this city; and they shall fight against it and take it and burn it with fire. I will make the cities of Judah a desolation without inhabitant. 
  
Jer 35:13 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to My words {and} obey them? says the Lord.
Jer 35:14
The command which Jonadab son of Rechab gave to his sons not to drink wine, has been carried out {and} established [as a custom for more than two hundred years]. To this day they drink no wine, but they have obeyed their father’s command. But I, even I, have persistently spoken to you, but you have not listened to {and} obeyed Me.

Jer 35:15
I have sent also to you all My servants the prophets earnestly {and} persistently, saying, Return now every man from his evil way and amend your doings and go not after other gods to serve them; and then you shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers. But you did not submit {and} consent to Me or listen to {and} obey Me.

Jer 35:16 Since the sons of Jonadab son of Rechab have fulfilled {and} established the command of their father which he commanded them, but these people have not listened to and obeyed Me,
Jer 35:17
Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing upon Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them, because I have spoken to them, but they have not listened, and I have called to them, but they have not answered.
 
In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the  reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1).  And the full promised by God  restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today  and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. The fact the full promsied return it had all had happened on Pentecost, a feast holiday to commemorate also the freeing of the slaves is very significant too. Pentecost is derived  one of the three Pilgrimage Festivals required in the Law of Moses. A Jewish holy day celebrated on the sixth of Sivan to celebrate Moses receiving the Ten Commandments and it also now commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles and other followers of Jesus as described in the Book of Acts,   ”According to the Pentateuchal legislation contained in Leviticus, a Jubilee year is the year that follows immediately seven successive Sabbatic years (the Sabbatic year being the seventh year of a seven-year cycle). Accordingly, the Jubilee year takes place at the end of seven times seven years, i.e. at the end of every forty-nine years, or the fiftieth.  Hence, the institution of the Jubilee-year system is but an extension or the working out of the Sabbatic-year legislation, viz. that as at the end of every six years there succeeds a Sabbatic year, so at the end of each seven Sabbatic years there succeeds a Jubilee year. Arguing from the analogous Pentecostal system, it is evident that the actual year in which the Jubilee occurs is not the last of the seventh Sabbatic cycle (i.e. the forty-ninth year), but the year following, namely, the fiftieth. Hence, at the end of each forty-eight years there occur two consecutive fallow years, viz. the forty-ninth, or the Sabbatic year of the seventh Sabbatic cycle and the fiftieth, or the Jubilee year.” http://www.piney.com/Jubilee.html  

In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church 

 Even in Revelation 2:17, John (quoting Jesus) promises to overcomers (i.e., the Church) a “new name” that “no one knows except the one who receives it.” This is a clear reference to the prophecy in Isa. 62:2 (“And the nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord will designate”) and 65:15 (“but My servants will be called by another name”) about Israel’s future kingly status and restoration to Yahweh, both of which are now applied to individuals within the church.

..the New Testament fiurthermore provides us all with an expanded definition of what constitutes an “Israelite” or a “Jew”. Or perhaps we might say that the NT provides us with a “Christified” perspective on the people of God. Ethnicity is no longer the primary concern. Having Abraham’s blood in one’s veins is not the primary consideration, but rather having Abraham’s faith in one’s heart. Jesus is the true “seed” of Abraham to whom the promise was given. But if anyone is “in Christ” by faith, he or she is the “seed” of Abraham and thus an heir according to the promise.

Revelation 3:9 is especially instructive. Here Jesus promises the Church in Philadelphia that he “will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie – behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.” There are two important points to make.First, he refers to people who “say they are Jews and are not, but lie” (for an almost identical statement, see Rev. 2:9). Clearly, in one sense, these people are Jews, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who met regularly in the synagogue to worship. Yet, in another sense, i.e., inwardly and spiritually, they are not Jews, having rejected Jesus and now persecuted and slandered his people. Indeed, their gatherings at synagogue are energized by Satan himself. 

But if they are false Jews, who, then, are the true Jews? If they are a synagogue of Satan, who, then, constitutes a synagogue of God? John does not provide an explicit answer, but the implication seems clear. Ladd explains: “true Jews are the people of the Messiah.

Apostle Paul says the same thing very clearly: ‘For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal’ (Rom. 2:28-29). That this ‘Judaism of the heart’ is not to be limited to believing Jews but includes believing gentiles is clear from Paul’s words to the Philippians: ‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus’ (Phil. 3:3). We must conclude, then, that John makes a real distinction between literal Israel – the Jews – and spiritual Israel – the church” (43-44).  

Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“  God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).

Once again some Jewish  persons are waiting for  a promised return here but they are greatly mistaken, for this return is the promised return to Jesus Christ the messiah, and it includes the Church, composed of Jews and gentiles now. This promised restoration of the remnant of Israel, and of the gentile has been fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ ..   

(Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

(Rev 21:2 KJV)  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

As per the next full supposed re-gathering  of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus.  (Acts 2:2 KJV)  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

(Acts 2:36 KJV)  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

(Acts 16:31 KJV)  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Acts 16:32 KJV)  And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

(Acts 20:20 KJV)  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,

But most Jews who tend to reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah, and evangelicals too, tend not to agree with this and they are waiting for rather a supposedly soley Jewish messiah, not a Jewish -gentile messiah of Jesus Christ, so next they will be deceived and disappointed by the false counterfeit messiah, the anti Christ,  (Rev 13:18 KJV)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and the same anti Christ who falsely will restore the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem, restore the sacrifices in the temple,

(Rev 14:9 KJV)  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

(Rev 14:10 KJV)  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

(Rev 14:11 KJV)  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

There are numerous passages in the NT where OT prophecies concerning Israel’s regathering and restoration are applied to the Church, indicating that the latter is the “true Israel” comprised of both believing Jews and believing Gentiles in whom the promises will be fulfilled. Or, to put it in other terms, the Church does not replace Israel but takes up and perpetuates in itself the believing remnant within the nation as a whole.
 

The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches 

Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

Simon Peter spoke of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in conjunction with the final judgment and the punishment of sinners. Instructively, this same Simon Peter, the Apostle to the Circumcision, says nothing about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel in the land of Palestine. Instead, as his readers contemplate the promise of Jesus’ Second Coming, he fixes their hope upon the new heavens and the new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

The entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East called the “Holy Land” cannot be supported by the new testament or Old tesatment Scriptures. In fact, the land promises specific to Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled under Joshua. The New Testament speaks clearly and prophetically about the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. No New Testament writer foresees a regathering of ethnic Israel in the land, as did the prophets of the Old Testament after the destruction of the first temple in 586 B.C. Moreover, the land promises of the Old Covenant are consistently and deliberately expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus, who reigns from heaven upon the throne of David, inviting all the nations through the Gospel of Grace to partake of his universal and everlasting dominion. 

and why were the Jews dispelled from Israel the second Time? Because also due  their false hope of having a Jewish state separate of Jesus Christ.
 
 God has promised to restore His Jewish people to Israel – Jer 29:14 and this promised has been fulfilled after the Babylonian exile and return now too.
Yet some evangelicals, Zionists falsely believe there are here, were simultaneous prophecies of a latter day restoration of Israel solely, alone… fullfilled in 1948
a. To be fulfilled in the last days, supposedly our modern  times, just before the Lord Jesus Christ finally returns
b. That includes the return of Jews to Palestine and the establishment of  Israel as an independent state in May, 1948, was a fulfillment of  such prophecies.
Yes next the Jewish people again as warned by God, and prophesied by Jesus, predicted too were dispersed worldwide by the Romans and God himself.

At the heart of many of the political commitments in question are two fatally flawed propositions. First, some are teaching that God’s alleged favor toward Israel today is based upon ethnic descent rather than upon the grace of Christ alone, as proclaimed in the Gospel. Second, others are teaching that the Bible’s promises concerning the land are fulfilled in a special political region or “Holy Land,” perpetually set apart by God for one ethnic group alone. As a result of these false claims, large segments of the evangelical community, our fellow citizens, and our government are being misled with regard to the Bible’s teachings regarding the people of God, the land of Israel, and the impartiality of the Gospel.

God, the Creator of all mankind, is merciful and takes no pleasure in punishing sinners. Yet God is also holy and just and must punish sin. Therefore, to satisfy both his justice and his mercy, God has appointed one way of salvation for all, whether Jew or Gentile, in Jesus Christ alone.  Jesus Christ, who is fully God and fully man, came into the world to save sinners. In his death upon the cross, Jesus was the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, of Jew and of Gentile alike. The death of Jesus forever fulfilled and eternally ended the sacrifices of the Jewish temple. All who would worship God, whether Jew or Gentile, must now come to him in spirit and truth through Jesus Christ alone. The worship of God is no longer identified with any specific earthly sanctuary. He receives worship only through Jesus Christ, the eternal and heavenly Temple.

To as many as receive and rest upon Christ alone through faith alone, to Jews and Gentiles alike, God gives eternal life in his heavenly inheritance. 

Bad Christian theology regarding the “Holy Land” contributed to the tragic cruelty of the Crusades in the Middle Ages. Lamentably, bad Christian theology is today attributing to secular Israel a divine mandate to conquer and hold Palestine, with the consequence that the Palestinian people are marginalized and regarded as virtual “Canaanites.” This doctrine is both contrary to the teaching of the New Testament and a violation of the Gospel mandate. In addition, this theology puts those Christians who are urging the violent seizure and occupation of Palestinian land in moral jeopardy of their own bloodguiltiness. Are we as Christians not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword? Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.

The present secular state of Israel, however, is not an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ’s kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in “the land,” by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices. Instead, this present age will come to a climactic conclusion with the arrival of the final, eternal phase of the kingdom of the Messiah. At that time, all eyes, even of those who pierced him, will see the King in his glory. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign forever and ever. http://www.bible-researcher.com/openletter.html 

I must point our that the same false dispensationalists, Zionists who reject these truths in the Bible are the same persons who today tend to deny the Holy Spirit, they reject that God’s gifted men and Holy spirit gifts exist today because they are not spirit filled, led by the Holy Spirit in reality.  

http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/end/end_07.htm

“You are not to go to the left or to the right unless you hear a voice ( of the Holy Sprit) saying this is the way walk there in”.. Many of us have not learned as to how to hear this voice .

 

Background

“Zionism is a Modern  international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.[1] Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century.   Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5]  Zionism can be distinguished from Territorialism, a Jewish nationalist movement calling for a Jewish homeland not necessarily in Palestine. During the early history of Zionism, a number of proposals were made for settling Jews outside of Europe, but ultimately all of these were rejected or failed. The debate over these proposals helped to define the nature and focus of the Zionist movement. Since the first century CE most Jews have lived in exile, although there has been a constant presence of Jews in the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel). According to Judaism, Eretz Israel, or Zion, is a land promised to the Jews by God according to the Bible. Following the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt, Jews were expelled from Palestine to form the Jewish diaspora. In the nineteenth century a current in Judaism supporting a return grew in popularity. Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.[10] Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution.  In the 1890s Theodor Herzl infused Zionism with a new and practical urgency. He brought the World Zionist Organization into being and, together with Nathan Birnbaum, planned its First Congress at Basel in 1897.[13] This current in Zionism is known as political Zionism because it aimed at reaching a political agreement with the Power ruling Palestine. Up to 1917 this was the Ottoman Empire, and then until 1948 it was Britain on behalf of the League of Nations. The WZO also supported small scale settlement in Palestine.  Lobbying by Chaim Weizmann (cultural Zionists) and others culminated in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 by the British government. This declaration endorsed the creation of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. In 1922, the League of nations endorsed the declaration in the Mandate it gave to Britain:  Palestinian Arabs resisted Zionist migration. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, sometimes accompanied by massacres of Jews. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration. The subsequent growth in Jewish migration led to the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine which in turn led the British to establish the Peel Commission to investigate the situation. The commission (which did not examine the situation of Jews in Europe) called for a two-state solution and compulsory transfer of populations. This solution was rejected by the British and instead the White Paper of 1939 proposed an end to Jewish immigration by 1944, with a further 75,000 to be admitted by then. In principle, the British stuck to this policy until the end of the Mandate. After WWII and the Holocaust, support for Zionism increased, especially among Jewish Holocaust survivors. The British were attacked in Palestine by Zionist groups because of their restrictions on Jewish immigration, the best known attack being the 1946 King David Hotel bombing. Unable to resolve the conflict, the British referred the issue to the newly created United Nations.  In 1947, the UNSCOP recommended the partition of western Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory (Corpus separatum) around Jerusalem.[15] This partition plan was adopted on November 29th, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote itself, which required a two-third majority, was a very dramatic affair and led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[16]  The Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state with an Arab majority. violence immediately exploded in Palestine between Jews and Arabs. On 14 May 1948, at the end of the British mandate, the Jewish Agency, led by Ben-Gurion declared the creation of the State of Israel and the same day, the armies of four[17] Arab countries invaded Israel. During the following eight months, Israel forces defended the Jewish partition and conquered portions of the Arab partition, enlarging its portion to 78 percent of mandatory Palestine. The conflict led to an exodus of about 711,000 Arab Palestinians [18], of whom about 46.000 were internally displaced persons in Israel. The war ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which included new cease-fire lines, the so-called Green line.  After the war the Arabs continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and demanded that it retreat to the 1947 partition lines. They sustained this demand until 1967 when the rest of western Palestine was conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War, after which Arab states demanded that Israel retreat to the 1949 cease fire line, the only “borders” currently recognized by the international community. These borders are commonly referred as the “pre-1967 borders” or the “green line”. The border with Egypt was legalized in the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, and the border with Jordan in the 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. After the creation of the State of Israel the WZO continued to exist as an organisation dedicated to assisting and encouraging Jews to migrate to Israel, as well as providing political support for Israel.  In addition to Jewish Zionism, there was always a small number of Christian Zionists that existed from the early days of the Zionist movement.”   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism 
“Over 400 years of independence under the Davidic dynasty ended in 586 BCE when the country was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed the Temple and exiled most of the people. However, before the century was over the Jews returned, rebuilt the Temple and restored Jewish life in the Land. For the next centuries, they knew varying degrees of self-rule under Persian (538-333 BCE) and Hellenistic (322-142 BCE) overlordship, independence under the Hasmonean dynasty (142-63 BCE) and then increasingly oppressive domination by the Romans beginning in 63 BCE. When the Jews were prevented from carrying out their traditional religious way of life, they launched a series of uprisings, which climaxed in the revolt of 66 CE.   After four years of fighting, Rome put down the Jewish Revolt and burned the Temple to the ground. Many thousands of Jews were killed, sold into slavery and dispersed to countries near and far. The only remnant of the entire Temple compound was the Western Wall, which became a place of pilgrimage and worship for Jews, and remains so to the present time.  In 132 CE, another Jewish revolt, which restored Jewish sovereignty for three years, was cruelly suppressed, claiming thousands of lives. To stamp out the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, the Romans renamed the country Palaestina.  The small Jewish community which remained in the Land gradually recovered. Institutional and communal life was reconstructed to meet the new situation without the unifying framework of the state and the Temple. Priests were replaced by rabbis, and in the absence of a central place of worship, the synagogue became the nucleus of each of the scattered communities. Between 636 and 1096, the Jewish community in the Land diminished considerable and lost some of its organizational and religious cohesiveness, ” http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
 
God leads us in many ways, through his word, through people, but God will confirm his will for us still too. I have had often had to learn spiritual truths the hard way, by trying to do my own thing and failing at it, and Jesus reminding me that I could do nothing without him. Now I pray before I do anything and I await his instructions, if God does not lead me, or tells me not to do something, I tend not to do it. I had bought a pair summer shorts recently and I wanted to get matching T-shirt to it too.. I had tried a few stores but was unable to get the matching color that I had wanted. So I prayed about it and God told me not to look for it. I have learned he will deal with it his way and in his time. So I went along with my normal agendas. I had to go the drug store to get my medicine renewed so I did so. I was surprised to find the matching T-shirt, in the color I had wanted on sale at half price too in the drug store. After I pray I have come to learn to expect God will answer the prayer, I do not have to do it in my own strength.
 
It also now seems that unresolved problems tend to make us seek God. How to draw closer to God. You have wanted God to speak to you for a long time. You have wanted to talk to God and get answers back. This  is an opportunity for you to have a dialogue with God. God too wants to communicate with you. You might have been in church, a crusade, in your room, or outside under the stars. You felt God’s call, but you didn’t know exactly what God wanted you to do. You knew you were going to do something special, but you didn’t know what it was. Now you can also find out God’s plan for you, and others too and the literature is all free too.   It teaches you how to hear God’s voice.  God will teach you many things you need to know.  Valid spiritual tools to help you make conscious contact with God: Praise, Prayer, Humbleness, Obedience, the Bible. Get yourself ready where God speaks to you 

God is these days speaking to us not just through the words in the Bible. Many of us have at times sensed that something is wrong in the church  and  because of the continual deficiencies in our knowledge of scripture, deficiencies in our walk with God, deficiencies in our being able to hear the voice of God, and the fear of man we have suppressed or put aside these things, yet in our hearts these nudges of the Holy Spirit keep coming back time and again. So we have at times felt things, we have at times sensed things, but we have not necessarily known that now God has been speaking and guiding us. When we   have sought help from a preacher or teacher we too often next have in time realized in some measure that what they tend speak not from a personal knowledge of God, from the leading of God  but instead speak from the stale corn of other people books, tapes, and notes or their own views. And yet with these sweeping -general explanations these things we have known never really go away — for the Holy Spirit still speaks to men and what we  have already seen and heard of Him we do still believe  God still speaks to men, and confers upon those that love Him and are obedient His tokens of His affection — true gifts and true ministry. Next that  Word becoming flesh (in us), a personal reality in many of our life experience, that can be “seen” and “handled” by those some of those called out persons that are around us.

Do see  http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html     and http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Meditating%20on%20the%20Lord.htm
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/articles.htm

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

July 18, 2008

Libel 2

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While the Internet is in Canada unregulated by the government , the Police and the courts still do regulate internet abuses Of specific interest was the continual ongoing consistency of deformation of character, libel, personal attacks, slander, bullying, the invasion of privacy too.

CP    VANCOUVER – A B.C. Supreme Court judge has awarded an Australian man $180,000 for being the brunt of an Internet tirade conducted by a Nanaimo, B.C., man.  The case involved the thorny question of how to crack down on the lawlessness of online libel and slander.  Justice Douglas Halfyard concluded defamatory statements along with the worldwide exposure of Robert Griffin’s identity had serious and adverse effects on Griffin’s life and mental health.  In his judgment, Halfyard found Patrick Sullivan responsible for publishing four years of false and defamatory statements accusing “that the plaintiff is a stalker, abuser, harasser, criminal, evil, liar, killer, sexual predator, pervert, pedophile, coward, manipulator and hate monger who threatens others with death and violence … and deserves to be jailed and killed.”  Griffin’s lawyer Dan Burnett said most people don’t have the money or stamina to fight against those kind of relentless Internet accusations.  “He felt it had to stop and the only way it was going to stop was to do what he did which was commence the action and seek damages and seek an injunction and essentially stand up to the bully.”  Burnett said the court award and subsequent injunction stopping Sullivan from writing anything more about his client is a warning to other Internet users.  “It illustrates that there is a line, that when crossed, puts you into court and is a breach of the law.”  The whole situation started with postings on the Internet suicide website ASH, in which participants discuss suicide and depression.  Griffin became embroiled in a vicious dispute with several of the members of ASH, including Sullivan.  The situation escalated when Sullivan published personal information, such as Griffin’s age, his real name and the fact he lived in Sydney, Australia. Griffin had been using the name Magnus Pym.  “I have found that the defendant was, in many instances, indifferent to the truth of the statements he was making,” Halfyard wrote of Sullivan.  “That is malice and that is an aggravating factor.”  Included in the $180,000 award is $50,000 for aggravated damages because Halfyard said the facts “demonstrate that the defendant was motivated by an unjustifiable intention to injure the plaintiff.”  Griffin has also been awarded $25,000 for breach of his privacy and almost $5,000 for expenses which included psychological treatment and counselling, and payment for interpreting services required to investigate postings on the Internet in Russia.  Sullivan, who acted as his own lawyer, claimed some of the accusations were true, he raised the defence of fair comment and also denied making some of the statements.  Sullivan could not be reached for comment.  Halfyard didn’t agree with the arguments.  “The defendant failed to prove that any of his many other defamatory statements about the plaintiff were true. The defence of justification fails.”  Burnett said the sweeping injunction is especially significant because it forces Sullivan to stop referring in any way to Griffin and to remove all of his ranting from the Internet.  “That’s in an Internet world where we think of things going up and being irretrievable. If you’re the person putting it up and you have the means to take it down the court might order you to do that.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

 

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July 6, 2008

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July 4, 2008

there still can be a good life after divorce with God’s help…

>>My ex-husband smokes pot and drinks a lot, and I am told, so does his girlfriend. He once told me that I am too righteous because I don’t drink or do drugs, and I attend church.

that was a verbal abuse if I have ever seen one..

Firstly  do thank God daily that he has now removed your from this  abusive relationship..

and do ask Him, God  to take all the tears away and he will and go on with God solely now

(Psa 4:8 KJV)  I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

(Rev 21:4 KJV)  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

there still can be a good life after divorce with God’s help… God will become your spouse

(Rom 8:28 KJV)  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

(Rom 8:29 KJV)  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

(Rom 8:30 KJV)  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

(Rom 8:31 KJV)  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

 Isaiah 54:4-10  “Do not be afraid; you will not suffer shame. Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated. You will forget the shame of your youth and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood. For your Maker is your husband – the LORD Almighty is his name – the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth. The LORD will call you back as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit – a wife who married young, only to be rejected,” says your God. “For a brief moment I abandoned you, but with deep compassion I will bring you back. In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a moment, but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you,” says the LORD your Redeemer. “To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again. Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,” says the LORD, who has compassion on you.

If you still  are being abused do call the police and report it , and do not worry about the results, God will turn it out all  for your good if you put your trust in him.. 

Truly any type of abuse is unacceptable and anywhere too

and exposing it loudly in public as well as calling the police is the best way to deal with it for everyone’s benefit, the abuser included.

God himself clearly does not accept verbal, physical, or human rights abuses

(Mat 18:6 KJV) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

(Mat 18:7 KJV) Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

(Mat 18:8 KJV) Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

No we ALL cannot STOP, take the ostrich approach under the guise of love to the definite bad acts of others, we as Christians are still called to be fruit inspectors of those who profess to be Christians ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY RARELY QUOTE IT in actual context OR LIVE THE BIBLE THEY CLAIM THEY BELIEVE IN-

(Gen 31:42 KJV) Except the God of my father, the God of Abraham, and the fear of Isaac, had been with me, surely thou hadst sent me away now empty. God hath seen mine affliction and the labour of my hands, and rebuked thee yesternight.

(Lev 19:17 KJV) Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

(Neh 5:7 KJV) Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

(Psa 119:21 KJV) Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

(Prov 24:25 KJV) But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

(Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.

(Eccl 7:5 KJV) It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

(Mat 17:18 KJV) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

(Mark 1:25 KJV) And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

(Mark 4:39 KJV) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

(Mark 8:33 KJV) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

(Heb 12:5 KJV) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON, POPULAR TOPICS, SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET is can a Christian next get divorced and remarried, and the simple answer is no! but wait  do not stop reading yet.. if you are married, living to a demon, a control freak, a liar, a lazy good for nothing abusive person then please now do immediately get out of the marriage, do get an immediate separation.. and this not the kind of advice you would expect from a preacher of peace and love, but I am telling you all this for our own good, and you can thank me later.. and maybe next the still good for nothing bum, lousy spouse, he or she will wake up as to what she is really like and they may try to get help to change herself, himself.. but meanwhile don’t feel guilty about the peace you now have in your life.. By the way make sure first you are not the creepy, a good for nothing spouse yourself otherwise by your actions you will be doing your own spouse a great, great service.  http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/throw-the-bum-out/

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July 3, 2008

Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too.

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Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now    Even for Christians! verbal abuse by pastorS NOW ESPECIALLY TOO.

“This is from the book by Patricia Evans http://andthenshecried.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/the-verbally-abusive-relationship-how-to-recognize-it-and-how-to-respond

Verbal abuse is a kind of battering which doesn’t leave evidence like physical abuse does. However, it can be just as painful, and recovery can take much longer. The victim of abuse lives in a gradually more confusing realm. In public she is with one man, in private he becomes another. Often, for the verbally abused woman (man), there is no witness to her reality and no one to understand her experiences. Friends and family continue to see her ex, the abuser, as a really good guy and, certainly, he agrees with them. The verbal abuser, while maintaining his charm with others, always takes his abuse behind closed doors. It is a means of holding power over his wife( husband) /partner.. Many women and some men leave a marriage and come back into the singles’ world with the diminished self-esteem that comes from a verbally abusive relationship. The fact that many of these women (men) have never even realized that they were being abused, makes it easy for them to enter another abusive relationship. A verbal abuser is an insecure person and immature person who is looking for power and control over another.In order to help you recognize abuse, remember that all forms of verbal abuse are methods of manipulating you for the purpose of establishing power over you. The following are some of the forms of verbal abuse the author helps you recognize.

  1. Withholding: a purposeful, silent treatment.
  2. Countering: a countering of your ideas, feelings, and perceptions, even going so far as to refute what he misconstrues you to have said.
  3. Discounting–a putdown of you or something you hold dear.
  4. Blocking and diverting–this is a sneaky, covert way of violating your dignity.
  5. Accusation and blame: generally involves lies about the partner’s intentions, attitudes, and motives. The author states that accusation and blame is present in all verbally abusive relationships.
  6. Judging and criticizing: lies about your personal qualities and performance.
  7. Trivializing and undermining: abusive behavior which makes light of your work, your efforts, your interests, or your concerns. The abuser attempts to dilute meaning and value in your life. Undermining might occur when your partner laughs at you, for example, when you burn yourself cooking. It is also jokes at your expense. Undermining is occurring when you feel a “so-called joke” is mean rather than funny.
  8. Name calling: no one has a right to call you degrading names. Name calling is verbal abuse.
  9. Ordering: Telling you to do something, rather than asking, or making decisions for you or for the two of you without your input.
  10. Forgetting and denial: the trickiest form of denial is forgetting. Become aware that forgetting is a form of denial that shifts all responsibility from the abuser to some “weakness of mind.”
  11. Abusive anger: this seems to be closely linked to the need to “blow up,” to dominate, to control, to go one up, and to put down. Any time you are snapped at or yelled at, you are being abused.
  12. Threatening: Physical threats and sexual threats aside, verbal threats are an effort at manipulation. For example, a threat to leave, stay out all night, or take you home immediately is a manipulation for power. The threat of “pending disaster” is designed to shatter the partner’s serenity as well as her boundaries.
  13. If you counter the abuser or attempt to explain yourself, you will probably be met with such statements as, “I don’t want to hear it, get out of my face” or “Woman you don’t have the brains“, “BYou shouldn’t have said that to me“.

    f you are in a brand-new relationship and see warning signs of verbal abuse, the author suggests you might be wise to let the relationship go. It is not likely that a man (woman) who needs to dominate and control will change easily, if at all. It is also likely that when the newness of the relationship wears off, he will become more abusive. Verbal abuse can become physical in time and physical abuse is always preceded by verbal abuse, according to Evans.If you are in a long-term relationship, you can respond to the abuser as the book suggests and soon discover for yourself whether or not your mate is willing to change and stop his abusive behavior.

    “If you have been verbally abused in your relationship, you may have discovered that explaining and trying to understand have not improved your relationship. Therefore, I recommend that you respond in a new way–a way that will make an emotional, psychological, and intellectual impact upon your mate.”

    The abuser in your relationship may change when he finds that you do know when you are being abused, that you have set limits, that you mean what you say, and that you will not take behavior you don’t like. 

    If the man ( or sadly too often now a women) in your relationship remains abusive, it is not only not your fault,” but it is  your responsibility to deal with it, make it public, call the police too.

    Any person cannot still fight with you of you leave his or her presences, even forever.. and there is still a good life after a failed marriage now too. I practise what I preach and often now too.

     SEE ALSO http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/

    Hey if you read my many non conforming posts you will note that I definitely, and loudly, rightfully still  do not conform to the false or immoral demands of others..
     
    I was really now fortunate I had great teachers here in Canada, in my public school, in high School and in University in Montreal Quebec, and all of them now   had treated me as a real person, respected me, and allowed me to speak. and to be heard as well.
      
    Not one of them no one told me what I can talk about write about or what I cannot as well. At work as a Professional Engineer, or as a Professional Realtor with Re/Max I was allowed continually as a responsible, a mature adult to make my own decisions,  and top also carry out my responsibilities in the manner   I chose to do them as well.
     
    So I have to admit it came to me as a shock firstly when I started to attend evangelical, Baptist Pentecostal churches in Canada now as an adult that that same right  to be respect, top speak, and to be heard, not to be bullied, falsely oppressed. Legal and Human rights that  I had before, often now did not exist in the churches surprisingly now of all places. Never saw so many control freaks, human rights abusers  in my whole life next to the too often bad cops now too.  And perversely many a despotic, crooked elder, pastor had wrongfully tried to shut me up, and even next had resorted next to slander me, to try to discredit me and what I had said,  or whatever,  now even both in Quebec and in Alberta.
     
    But like I have often said elsewhere the Evangelical church was not the only place where they tried to deny me my right to speak and to be heard now, for too often too and unacceptable the Alberta bullies, rednecks now  on the net had wrongfully tried often and falsely to suppress my right of free speech, but next so did not too many a Politician, particularly,  ironically again both the professing Christian ones, and the definitely alcoholic ones now too.. what they were falsely deluded that only politicians had the right of free speech and the right to be heard it seems too .
     
    Next too many bad police officers as well did not like me openly, publically complaining about the too often bad cops, bad RCMP had encountered in Alberta, Quebec, and not just the too many bad pastors, elders too, and in other provinces as well.. and what these bad  cops, bad watchdogs,  forget they are here to serve the good welfare of the citizens? for  they are not our despotic slave drivers.. nor are their bosses for that matter now too.
     
    Now what bothered them all now so much that they had tried to shut me up? my transparency, honesty, or it seems the mere exercise of  case of my rights . For in reality it seems at least 10 percent of the persons even on the net seem to be control freaks, bullies, human rights abusers.
     
    I often read complaints on the net from  some child complaining  that that one of their parents is verbally abusing them, or even a spouse complain that  their spouse is abusing them.  I have heard people tell me how pastors had abused them as well. Children and spouses sometimes are forced to put up with it?? But not me, for I am not a child, rather a matured adult, a retired senior in fact. And I can clearly, rightfully speak for myself and talk on any topic now as I so desire as well as we all can readily see and I do so now too. And for the good of us all now too.
     
     
    Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
     
    Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
     
     
    Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.
      
    Paul Kambulow

July 2, 2008

Perhaps the best thing for preserving marriages is..

 

The most common complaint that I have heard in my lifetime from men, from about 60 percent of them, was I have only one major problem in my life and it is my wife.. and who had made him marry her in the first place?

Perhaps the best thing for preserving Christian marriages is their frequent church attendance, both of them, plus daily practising being a real Christian..
 
 Ever notice how few church people next do   go to the Sunday night services, or especially the Wednesday night prayer meetings now too? and why is that?
  

 
“here are the divorce rates among ever-married respondents in the General Social Survey (GSS, 2000-2004)—one of the best known sources of sociological data.
 
“Frequent” is attending church about once a week or more. http://brewright.blogspot.com/2006/12/christian-divorce-rates.html58%, non-frequent Black Protestants
54%, non-frequent Evangelicals
51%, no religion (e.g., atheists & agnostics)

48%, ALL NON-CHRISTIANS
48%, non-frequent, other religions
47%, frequent Black Protestants
42%, non-frequent, mainline Protestants
41%, ALL CHRISTIANS
41%, non-frequent Catholics
39%, Jews
38%, frequent other religions
34%, frequent Evangelicals
32%, ALL FREQUENT CHRISTIANS
32%, frequent mainline Protestants
23%, frequent Catholics

 

 

 

 

I also analyzed data from previous years of the GSS and from five other national surveys, and they showed the same pattern: Christians, especially those who frequently attend church, have relatively low divorce rates.”
  
 My real experiences is that I have been too often sexually propositioned , and so have many other pastors too,  in even the evangelical churches now too.
 
There is a demonic myth being spread today amongst the churches too that a 30 percent divorce rate amongst frequent Church attendees is acceptable.. but not in God’s eyes, for God says he hates Divorce!!! No divorce is acceptable  for HIM! Divorce , adultery are just as sinful, unacceptable  as prostitution,  pornography, lust, drunkness, cheating, lying, stealing  too.
 
(Mal 2:16 KJV)  For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
 
(Mal 2:17 KJV)  Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?
 

Many people are really astounded for the false reasons for the much too many divorces in America these days, even in the Christian Churches.

 

 

Now why is the prosperity Gospel so popular in America,

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A gospel that  is even clearly contradictory to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the apostles as well? while 2/3 of the world lives below the poverty line, and world wide many Christians do daily even suffer religious persecutions? so Why?
 
(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
 
(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
(Mat 8:21 KJV)  And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 22  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
 
(Mat 6:33 KJV)  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
 
(Mat 16:21 KJV)  From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
 
(Mat 17:12 KJV)  But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
 
(Mark 8:31 KJV)  And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
 
(Luke 17:25 KJV)  But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
 
(Luke 24:46 KJV)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
 
(Acts 2:27 KJV)  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
 
(Acts 3:18 KJV)  But those things, which God before had showed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
 
(Acts 5:41 KJV)  And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
 
(Acts 9:16 KJV)  For I will show him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake
 
(Rom 8:17 KJV)  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
 
(1 Cor 3:15 KJV)  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
(1 Cor 4:12 KJV)  And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
 
(1 Cor 6:7 KJV)  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
 
(1 Cor 9:12 KJV)  If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
 
(1 Cor 10:13 KJV)  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
(1 Cor 12:26 KJV)  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
 
(2 Cor 1:6 KJV)  And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
 
(Gal 5:11 KJV)  And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
 
(Gal 6:12 KJV)  As many as desire to make a fair show in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
 
(Phil 1:29 KJV)  For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
 
(Phil 4:12 KJV)  I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
 
(1 Th 3:4 KJV)  For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
 
(2 Th 1:5 KJV)  Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
 
(1 Tim 4:10 KJV)  For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
 
(2 Tim 1:12 KJV)  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
 
(2 Tim 2:9 KJV)  Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
 
(2 Tim 2:12 KJV)  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
 
(2 Tim 3:12 KJV)  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 
(Heb 2:9 KJV)  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
 
(Heb 11:25 KJV)  Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
 
(Heb 13:3 KJV)  Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
 
(James 5:10 KJV)  Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
 
(1 Pet 2:19 KJV)  For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
 
(1 Pet 2:20 KJV)  For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
 
(1 Pet 3:14 KJV)  But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
 
(1 Pet 3:17 KJV)  For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
 
(1 Pet 4:15 KJV)  But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
 
(1 Pet 4:16 KJV)  Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
 
(1 Pet 4:19 KJV)  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
 
(Rev 2:10 KJV)  Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
 
Also
 
(Mat 19:14 KJV) Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
 
(Mat 23:13 KJV)  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
 
(Mark 7  KJV)  10  For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
 
The Assemblies of God  Pentecostal supporters, members are noted for their opposition to the Florida Lakeland revival, and to the Latter day movement.. but why?
 
and like many other Pentecostals, Alliance, Baptist, Evangelcial Churches they falsey do not include helping poor people in their own churches as an essential Christian  doctrine now too? why?
 
(Rom 15:26 KJV)  For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
 
(2 Cor 9:9 KJV)  (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
 
(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
 
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
 
(James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
 
Humanitarian Aid  – the Persecuted Church
Barnabas Fund
Advocates for the Persecuted
 

 

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

 

 

 

 

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July 1, 2008

Marriage

(Heb 13:4 KJV)  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
 
(Heb 13:5 KJV)  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
 
The first thing I do when I apply for a Job, is to find out what position I have, what I am going to do.
 
The second thing I want to know besides how much will I get paid for it is what is the organization chart, the responsibilities of others too.
 
(1 Sam 15:23 KJV)  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
 
War Mongers, Strife, lusts, exists on the Internet, on our  home as well  and elsewhere  
  
 Genesis 2:18, 21-24— “And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone. I will make him a help meet for him. And the Lord God cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof. And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”
  
 
(Eph 5:21 KJV)  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
 
(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
 
(Eph 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
 
(Eph 5:25 KJV)  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
 
(Eph 5:26 KJV)  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
 
(Eph 5:27 KJV)  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
 
(Eph 5:28 KJV)  So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
 
(Eph 5:29 KJV)  For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
 
(Eph 5:30 KJV)  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
 
(Eph 5:31 KJV)  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
 
(Eph 5:32 KJV)  This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
 
(Eph 5:33 KJV)  Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
 
(Eph 6:1 KJV)  Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
 
(Eph 6:2 KJV)  Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
 
(Eph 6:3 KJV)  That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
 
(Eph 6:4 KJV)  And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
 
 
 
http://pbulow.tripod.com/marriage.html
http://pbulow.tripod.com/Divorce.html 
http://pbulow.tripod.com/struct.html
http://pbulow.tripod.com/strife.htm
 

June 30, 2008

Abstainers

 
I had read on many lying Sites that Barrack Obama does not drink alcohol and  that is not true.. Is he rather an alcolholic too now?http://www.sofakingdrunk.com/2008/05/09/obama-and-clinton-drinking-alcohol-obama-drunk-clinton-drunk/
  
In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments
 

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..

I admit I had lost all respect for the supposedly great preacher Spurgeon who was so ready to preach to others about their sins, but he himself now could not resist  the Temptation of a cigar.  Similar we find out that other preachers could not give up smoking too..

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Look at this reference in regard to AB Simpson, the past founder of the Christian Missionary Alliance denomination now too.  “The Man, the movement, and the mission-A documentary of the C&MA”  Cut directly from their national web site. It was the custom for the ministers of the district to meet together to discuss all things common. This little reunion, in its proper sequence, was held one day at the Manse. And unaccountably strange odor of tobacco smoke began to steal upstairs. Suddenly the study door flew open and a towering figure of fury – all of four feet, one inch in its stocking feet – stood at the threshold. “SMOKING! Out of this house!” said Grannie Simpson, and in a body the ministerial association moved.  https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&postID=3424830162204895882

The CMA is a pretentious and one of the most demonic churches I have been too made up of lying hypocrites where the professing Christians not only abuse people, poor people included, but they indulge in Alcohol too often too.. “I know that as a minister in the C&MA I am called to abstain from drinking alcoholic beverages, here at Safe Harbor there are just a few of people who voluntary give up drinking. The majority of our church drinks: beer, wine, and of course margaritas. I do not have a problem with this. Some pastors would. I can sum up my position by quoting Derek Webb, “While I do not condone drunkenness, I do condone drinking” http://lukecamara.blogspot.com/2007/05/jesus-and-wine.html

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/

http://reversion-clause.com/

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and what other pastoral vices now are now being PERMITTED falsely today,  the handing out of beer, wine, alcoholic beverages, playboy, pornography, acts of cheating, lying, stealing, STEALING THE TITHES, adultery, tax evasions still?

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The Evangelical CMA Christian Canadian ex PM Stephen Harper should also note that the New Conservatives themselves now tend to be just as much alcoholics as the Liberals. Any false preconceived notions that they generally are not is clearly a myth .Even our professing Canadian Christian Evangelical prime Minister Stephen Harper, and others, still should  note that these are basic, ground rules in proper Bible interpretation that must be followed before anyone even attempts to fully study, apply  the Holy Scripture even related to consuming much too many Alcoholic beverages now too? He personally and falsely, undeniably  loves his alcoholic  wine, beer much too much still too? WE ALL DO NEED to have a right attitudes EVEN  all of leaders, pastors, elders too, and they have to lead by a good personal example too.

 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friends.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc..

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There are several basic, ground rules in proper Bible interpretation that must be followed by all persons now  before anyone even attempts to fully study the Holy Scripture. The first rule is pray and ask the Holy spirit to guide you, to teach you.. not rather self, mere men or women.. we all should seek first and not last the Holy Spirit for illumination. The Holy Spirit wants to share the treasures of God’s Word with those who rightfully do esteem Him. The most important principle to remember in studying God’s Word is that it can only be understood with the help of the Holy Spirit.  Those who approach the Bible without the Holy Spirit to teach them, may gain some insight into truths, their lives, but also  will receive no definite, permanent, important life-changing revelation.  Bible Commentaries should be used only very sparingly if at  all. Even the most anointed man or woman, preacher  of God clearly still can be wrong, biased, have a hidden agenda, limited, (or just shallow) in their understanding or interpretation of certain Bible topics, subjects. Do not believe any man or women, rather solely Take God’s word for it.“A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth” (Proverbs 14:6 )We know that alcoholism is a terrible sin  that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability  to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well. Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone. ““Dr. Daniel Akin, President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary has written an article in favor of the famous Resolution #5 (Resolution calling for total opposition to alcohol). Alcohol is the number one drug problem among teenagers. (1 Cor. 8:13; 9:19-22; 10:32-33). Because I am an example to others, I will make certain no one ever walks the road of sorrow called alcoholism because they saw me take a drink and assumed, “if it is alright for him it is alright for me.” No, I will choose to set an uncompromising example of abstinence because I love them.  I will seek my joy and filling in the Spirit not in alcohol. I love the Phillips translation of Ephesians 5:18 which reads, “Don’t get your stimulus from wine (for there is always the danger of excessive drinking), but let the Spirit stimulate your souls.” Psalm 4:7-8 adds, “You [O Lord] have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound. In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.”  There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink,  As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for  leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.” “PM Stephen Harper the pretender evangelical as well.. is not the first time he wrongfully  gave alcoholic beverages to others, and what next?

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(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

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(Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

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Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough, and it applies now to a Prime Minister as well, one rather can  tell what a person is really like by what he does,  a True Christian is one who evidently is controlled by the Spirit of God and not by  self, sin, a real Christian is one where thus anyone can clearly see by the evidence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, including even self control.

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Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];

Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits. 

 

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1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled; [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control..
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I have often rightfully said to many preachers I would rather see them first by example live the life of Christ instead of merely preaching it others.  Preaching the Gospel is not an valid alternative to living it.  I even do know People who profess to be Christians and they are Alcoholics too.. but they are not Christians… They fool themselves only as to who they still really are too.
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By their own fruits Jesus said to us all you can tell what they are really like still.
..(Prov 16:25 KJV)  There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
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(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

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If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s  bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that  drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men.

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Not one cent of taxpayer’s money should be ever used in the governments, civil  and public servants, expense accounts  to buy alcohol, wine  or beer.

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> I did not know that smoking is a sin?

Impaired means  when Mental awareness, alertness and function do also come under a dulling, slowing effect. This hinders our mental ability in everyday activity and restricts or cuts off our mental fellowship with the Holy Spirit speaking to our mind from our spirit. A person who has the smoking or drinking habit, in honesty, must label themselves an “addict” too. in bondage to Satan and the flesh and the lust thereof. Alcoholism, Smoking, lying, stealing, slander  is demonic, which is why it is so hard to stop on your own and they all are  not compatible with the Christian experience.  These sinful  problems are next forcing negative consequences on other “innocent” people  Co-workers, family and even  children are victims .  Christians are definitely thus not to be “stumbling blocks” to others.  Matthew 18: 6, 7, “But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offenses! For it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh!”

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Also smoking is “burning incense to other (demon) gods”. II Kings 22:17, II Kings 23:5; II Chronicles 28:25, 34:24, 34:25; Jeremiah 1:16, 7:9, 11:12, 19:4; Chapter 44, 48:35.

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To receive complete freedom from these sinful  bondages, the Believer must see his “habit” or being “hooked” as a spiritually rooted problem and confess it as a deliberate sin of Disobedience to God too. Acknowledging lust, Alcohol, tobacco, cigarettes, drugs, lying, stealing, marijuana  and smoking as sin is prerequisite. Personal Confession of the sin according to (1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10   If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.and we all must choose to submit to God according to (James 4:7 KJV)  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9  Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10   Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

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next , places the Believer on proper ground for the unclean spirits to be cast out of them

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and whether Smoking it is legal or not legal basically is not the issue in the sight of God.. but when you clearly have lost self control,  it also alters your judgment and your ability to perceive reality. on top of that you now are a prisoner to a bad habit of smoking , the very clear source of the bad habit is the devil now as well and not God.. and if you cannot see this it is either cause you do not want to or are in false denial… Half of the world knows that smoking cigarettes even is bad for you, it is a vice, and  it causes cancer, linked to gum disease, destroys the body and you did not realize it was sinful? either you are lying to me, lying yourself others or you are being deliberate ignorant. Smoking is not without potential real negative consequences and yes anyone would be an absolute fool not to factor that truth now as well . One cannot honestly claim to be using alcohol, smoking or marijuana for any purpose other than to falsely intoxicate oneself. to lose self control. One is not getting you closer to God by being intoxicated , but moving you away from Him. You’re doing the weed for YOURSELF, serving the sinful sinful self, the flesh now in reality. You are to die to self, the flesh and all of it’s lust thereof  as a Christian now still too. The ends do not justify now the mans still as well.

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1 Corinthians  10:31 (King James Version)   Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

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1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (King James Version) 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

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Christians are always to remain SOBER too. 1 Thessalonians 5:8 (King James Version) 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. Sober, obedient and not given to lusts of the flesh.

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1 Peter 1:13-14 (King James Version)  13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

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Ephesians 5:11-21 (King James Version) 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them  12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms

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Even our ex  PM Stephen Harper needs to get better friends, needs to repent himself too.

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Undeniably whether you are also a leader or not getting drunk is still an unacceptable sin as well. And all true Christians consider this still a sinful act

 

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 Booze may speed shrinking of the brain
Chicago Sun-Times –  First, the experts said drinking low to moderate amounts of alcohol was a good idea, that it might protect against heart disease. Now, a study has found that such drinking has a risk: It might speed the shrinking of the brain that naturally comes with
Study Links Drinking Alcohol To Shrinking Of The Brain dBTechno
Excess Drinking Shrinks the Brain Washington Post
Xinhua – DetNews.com – Telegraph.co.uk – MedPage Today
all 95 news articles »

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Alcohol is a poison that is detrimental to one’s health and all persons who take bad drugs and alcohol suffer undeniably irreversible brain damage, death of brain cells, become more and more mentally  retarded . 
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Poison is a good choice of words, particularly when the substance is in the hands of young people who often think themselves immune from the dangers around them Drinking even one alcoholic beverage while soaking in the sun can increases skin cancer risk by 20 percent while drinking more than four glasses increases this risk by 55 percent, a new study finds . It’s estimated that  roughly 13% of those watching the  watching Super Bowl  will consume alcoholic beverages. Too many deaths are also  linked to energy drinks being mixed with alcohol. This is a dangerous combination . And it’s just a matter of time before new regulations start to surface here too.  Unfortunately, the vast majority of people impaired by these products are young, often those not yet of legal drinking age. They mix it with juices and stimulant drinks that enhance the poisonous effects. According to the American Cancer Society, cancers linked to alcohol use include mouth, throat, voice box, esophagus, liver, colon and rectum, breasts, and even pancreatic cancer. For each of these cancers, the risk increases with the amount of alcohol consumed.
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Heavy drinking can cause cancer, heart disease, stroke, liver failure and other diseases, and drinkers are more likely to die in acccidents or to be murdered. And people who drink and smoke together raise their serious health disease risk even more. 
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Alcohol is still an  ‘important  cause’  of premature death .  Overall, most deaths were due to liver disease (63 per cent) and neuropsychiatric disorders (32 per cent). Excessive alcohol use can cause or exacerbate disorders such as alcohol dependence syndrome, depression, anxiety and psychotic episodes.  In Canada, the U.S., Argentina and Costa Rica, Cuba, the highest mortality rates were seen among those aged 50 to 69

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/alcohol-consumptiom-is-still-one-of-canadas-biggest-problem/

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see also

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/the-pcs-said-the-liberals-were-crooked-but-what-about-themselves/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/pm-stephen-harper-needs-to-get-better-friends-needs-to-repent-himself-too/

 

 

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