Missing the point?

December 23, 2013

Disspensationalists are false Christians.

HOLY SPIRIT (51)
“Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”1 Timothy 4:1
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Now about the Evangelicals, Plymouth Brethren Baptists so called rather still ignorant so called Christians I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism, tithing etc.
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The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is unacceptable.
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The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/
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“But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.
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Dispensationalist – just another Holy Spirit hater who bashes, bullies others who do not agree with them too
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Dispensationalists unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity
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NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. now there is no Biblical substantiation for Dispensationalists, Secret Rapture, Eternal security, Zionism, Messianic Jews. Yeshua too. Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation gives false hope to the Jews.. It is the anti Christ Yeshua who is coming for them,

Now what the Bible actually tells you:

  • The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
  • The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
  • The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
  • The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
  • Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
  • The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
  • There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
  • God promised that Christians would suffer
  • There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. – Matthew 24:29-31

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Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”

Matthew 24:30-31 “…then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

Christ declared that when He returns the second time, it is not a secret rapture, it would be with a sign; all people on the earth would see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and with power and great glory; the great majority of all the people of the earth would not be happy, but would mourn; there would be a great sound of a trumpet; and God would gather His obedient elect to Himself from every part of the world.

Did Jesus ask his Father to take us out of the world? Christ Himself prayed that His Father would not take His people “out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” John 17:15.

Critics of The Plymouth Brethren firstly object to their false teaching that you have to use their approved commentaries to study the Bible,with a very heavy, false emphasis on the original Greek and not the Holy Spirit as they are Cessationists falsely.

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Most dispensationalists still do take isolated verse and twist them to suit what they want others to believe still especially the false Dispensationalists http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

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Of the Scofield Reference Bible, John Wick Bowman says, “This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles” (Ibid., p.588).
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John H. Gerstner, in his 1991 book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, states emphatically and without mincing words:
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What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation….If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say that it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation (p.150).
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Ernest Reisinger states in his article, “A History of Dispensationalism in America”: All honest Dispensationalists would agree that the Dispensational system of theology has a different view of the grace of God, the law of God, the church of God, the interpretation of the Word of God and the salvation of God. That is, its teachings are different from tested, respected historic creeds and confessions …. Dispensationalism has a different view of living the Christian life of sanctification and, more specifically, how justification and sanctification are inseparably joined together in the application of God’s salvation (p.3)
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See also “The John Darby Versionn: Dispensationally Manipulated.” http://libertytothecaptives.net/darby_version_corrupt_methodically.html

 

 

Like John Darby, Scofield the adulterer, convicted fellon, had removed damned, damnation and hell from the Bible: http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_removed_damned.

 

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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal experience they still have never even had..
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Critics of The Plymouth Brethren have accused it of using cult techniques by controlling all aspects of its members’ lives The group’s influence over its members is such that many who have left the group have had trouble adjusting to life outside. To help with this problem, several websites have been set up to assist people that have left the church to adjust back into mainstream society

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They tend not to reveal openly, initially who they really are but camouflage it by saying they are Christians but this is not the true since most Christians do not agree with their too many false doctrines.

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They do contrary to the Bible falsely recommend one spouse to divorce the other one if they do not agree with their doctrines. Separation from Evil – God’s Principle of Unity. “ Hence the church is to put out from itself the wicked person, and thus maintains its separation from evil. But, alas! we know worldliness creeps in, and spiritual power declines; the taste for this blessing is enfeebled, because it is not enjoyed in the power of the Spirit; the spiritual fellowship with Christ the heavenly Head decays, and the power which banishes evil out of the church is no longer in living exercise… the evil must be separated from.“ Rev John Darby

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Members who leave or who are expelled from the group have often been treated with what outsiders may regard as undeniably great cruelty.

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DISPENSATIONAL THEOLOGY:

HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?

A HERETICAL TEACHING?.

ANOTHER GOSPEL?

DISCERNING TRUTH FROM DISPENSATIONAL ERROR.?

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“It is a fact that no Christian churches, congregations or fellowships existing prior to 1830 proclaimed a RAPTURE doctrine, and all accepted the Biblical truth that Christians would be on earth during the time of great tribulation. Before 1830, the single RAPTURE Scripture of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 were accepted as resurrection verses.

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The coming of the Lord and the Rapture will not occur until the Antichrist is revealed

Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together with Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed wither by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceived you, for it will not come unless the apostasy come first and the man of lawless ness is revealed… II Thessalonians 2:1-3

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The Rapture will occur at the Last Trumpet

Behold I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. II Corinthians 15:51-52

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The Mystery of God will be finished at the Seventh Trumpet, not before the Tribulation

“…In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound then the Mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.” Revelation 10:6-7

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The Mystery of God is Christ in the Church

The mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to the saints, to who God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory. Colossians 1:26-27

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Because every eye will see Him and the Rapture as well, the Church as a mystery to the world will be finished

When Christ who is our life is revealed, then you will also be revealed with Him in glory. Colossians 3:4

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Jesus will be revealed from heaven and give relief the the afflicted Church

…And give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His might angels in flaming fire. II Thessalonians 1:7

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Christ warns us about believing in a secret coming

For if they say to you, “Behold He is in the wilderness,” do not go out, or “Behold He is in the inner rooms,” do not believe them. Matthew 24:26

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He describes His return being as visible as lightning flashing across the entire sky

For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24:27“

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“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spoke unto you, saying, ‘let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them’; you shall not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord proves [tests] you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.” Deuteronomy 13:1–3

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The truth is, we will be protected from the evils of the Antichrist system (and the judgments of the Great Tribulation) by a mantle of safety from God that will protect us on earth. There is only one Second Advent of Christ and that is the moment (for all of us then living) we will be changed into immortality and the resurrection of the dead takes place. That is when all of us will meet Christ in the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18). We can believe this teaching with full assurance and faith. Remember, God cares for you and all the Body of Christ.” http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ess025.htm

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Their “END-TIME” CONFUSION ABOUNDS. But the Scripture tells us “God is not the author of confusion” (I Cor. 14:33). Yet when it comes to proper end-time direction, Dispensationalist churches almost universally exude mainly the spirit of confusion and contradictions.

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I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren, Baptists are liars also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, practice slanders, hate even the silent treatment to those who do not give them what they want.. or agree with them

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/dispensational-hoaxes-lies/

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THERE ARE THOSE MUCH TOO MANY WEIRD DISPENSATIONALIST FALSE TEACHINGS, LIES SUCH AS 1: ALL OF THE JEWS DO NOT HAVE TO GET SAVED. BUT YET THE APOSTLES HAD TO GET SAVED AND THEY PREACHED THE SALVATION MESSAGE TO ALL THE JEWS WORLD WIDE NEXT TOO.

Romans 10: 1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

DISPENSATIONALISTS

THEY ALSO PREACH THE LIES

  • THE JEWS HAVE TO RECLAIM ALL OF THE PROMISE LAND
  • THEY HAVE TO REBUILD THE JEWISH TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM,
  • THE JEWS HAVE TO KILL ALL OF THEIR ENEMIES AS WELL NOW.. YOU MEAN MURDER THEM IN COLD BLOOD.

YET THERE ARE NO SUCH VERSES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT STILL..

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Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of Jews Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too.

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The Jews had invaded, and changed even the evangelical Church Plymouth Brethren, Baptist to produce the false dispensational teachings, doctrines.

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There is no New Testament verse even indicating that the old Jerusalem will or has to be rebuild or it’s Jewish temple, or even now next one day Jerusalem will be the center of the world, or that the Jews were going to, or should return after the Romans kicked them out of the land of Israel in 70 ad. before Jesus Christ’s return.. this is only a Jewish Myth. Prove me wrong, show me the New testament Verses?
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Christians are not to be praying for a temple in Jerusalem anymore as..
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1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
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1 Corinthians 6: 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
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2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Jesus still had said Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
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Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
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Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
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THE CHRISTIANS CHURCH HAS EVEN REPLACED THE JEWISH ZIONISTS..
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Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
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Galatians 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
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Many people falsely quote no inapplicable old Testament verses and try to make them applicable today.. in particular to Israel. but Israel is no longer a Chosen people.. Our main attention is not on pray all Jews Go back to Israel, or rebuilding the city of Jerusalem or it’s obsolete temple but rather still praying all Jews become seabed.. and our main attention should ne now on helping all Christians firstly, even those in Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, India, Syria Egypt etc.,
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Salvation by the lordship of Jesus Christ now is needed for all unsaved persons, Jews, gentiles. It is not enough to merely accept that Jesus Christ is God as the devil believes that now also so what? he is still going to hell. Now the Messianic Jews believes in Jesus Christ the messiah, but so what they all will mostly God to hell cause they are unwilling to become real full Christians, unwilling to give up the Torah as well, to make Jesus Christ the sole Lord in their life, and not any Laws rather too.. .. so they too now are still counted rightfully as lost, unsaved person..
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Now as to the Jews, Arabs, None of them are politically correct. Thus says the Lord God of Israel: You shed blood, yet you would keep possession on the land? You rely on your sword, you do abominable things… yet you would keep possession of the land?… I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end. (Ezekiel 33:25-29) On the basis of such sober warnings is it not more likely that Israel will experience an imminent exile rather than restoration? The tension between Christians who call for the implementation of international law and Zionists is no where more clearly polarized than on the issue of the status of Jerusalem. Many true evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank. They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians. If all of the learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and admit that right was the same God who took them next away from that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together.
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WE ARE TO REBUKE ALL OF THOSE MURDEROUS JEWS EVEN
1 Corinthians 5”5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Mark 1:25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
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Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
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1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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Hell was meant for the devil and his angels but man chose to go there, because he has a free will, cause he does not serve God fully, because he has his own false religion , falsie beliefs he does not want to Gove up, too lazy to study the Bible firsthand, even cause he seeks the praises of mere men over God now too…” indicates they still most likely are not Christians.. the sad dispensationalists included now.

 

There are few Dispensationalist who do even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, many falsely as well do not accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.

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John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism in the English vernacular. He produced a false translation of the Bible based on the Hebrew and Greek texts called The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages by J. N. Darby.

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The Plymouth Brethren has next mainly split into Exclusive and Open Brethren in 1848 when George Müller refused John Nelson Darby‘s bias view of the relationship between local assemblies following difficulties in the Plymouth meeting. Brethren that held Muller’s congregational view became known as “Open”, those holding Darby’s ‘connexional‘ view, became known as “Exclusive” or “Darbyite” Brethren. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/exclusivebrethren

The Secret Rapture teaching was introduced into the United States and Canada between the 1840’s and 1870’s. A Congregationalist preacher by the name of C. I. Scofield came under the influence of Darby and the Plymouth Brethren. Scofield became a strong promoter of the teaching that had been promulgated by Darby, whom he considered “the most profound Bible student of modern times.” He incorporated this teaching into his SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. Three million copies were published in the first 50 years! Through this Bible Scofield shrewdly carried the false teaching of the Secret Rapture into the very heart of Evangelicalism. Jesus tells us “Beware of the scribes…” and in 1 Corinthians 1:19-20 “It is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?”

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Holy Bible Darby TranslationJohn Nelson Darby Version: Doctrinal Changes to the Holy Bible In view of John Darby’s departure from historic Christian beliefs, let us examine his bible http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_doctrinal_changes.html

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Dispensationalism: Occult Roots Do you really believe the Holy Spirit led J.N. Darby and other Brethren leadersto use Luciferian terms to refer to God and teach supposedly “recovered” biblical truths? http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_writings_occult.html

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John Darby’s Pre-Tribulation Rapture Alterations to the Bible John Nelson Darby inserted a message of imminence into many prophetic verses of scripture. http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_pretrib_immediacy.html

Religious people are always arguing about WHEN it will happen – PRE – MID – POST tribulation. Believing NO RAPTURE solves all those arguments. Some people prefer NOT to call it THE RAPTURE, but have other names for it. You hear people quoting Scripture when they say COME QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. They are looking for an ESCAPE from the things of this world. When things REALLY get bad, and there is NO RAPTURE, many will turn their back on Jesus because they were not RESCUED. When this happens, they cancel their ticket to Heaven. This is exactly what the devil wanted, when he started the teaching of THE RAPTURE. The false teachings of Rapture, Zionism, Eternal security, were also brought in by the The Plymouth Brethren IS THERE REALLY TO BE A RAPTURE The origin of Rapture False doctrine: John Darby 1830 AD.

http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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The reality is that because of the death of Jesus Christ on the cross the New Covenant next replaces the Mosaic Covenant, which is commonly referred to as the “Old Covenant”. All of the early Christian theologians saw the New Covenant in Christ as a replacement for the Mosaic Covenant for most of the last hundreds of years.
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(Matthew 21:33-45), addressed Israel, the Jews of that time, “the chief priests and the Pharisees”, “‘When therefore the lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those farmers?’ They told him, ‘He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will lease out the vineyard to other farmers, who will give him the fruit in its season.”
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Romans 2:28-29: “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.”
Romans 3:29-31: “Or is God the God of Jews only? Isn’t he the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith, and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then nullify the law through faith? May it never be! No, we establish the law.”
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Romans 9:6-8: “But it is not as though the word of God has come to nothing. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel. Neither, because they are Abraham’s seed, are they all children. But, ‘In Isaac will your seed be called.’ That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.”
Romans 10:12-13: “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on him. For, ‘Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Galatians 3:29: “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to promise.”
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Ephesians 2:11-22, especially Ephesians 2:14: “For he [Jesus] is our peace, who made both [Jews and Gentiles] one, and broke down the middle wall of partition .
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Only Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6) and that there is no other salvation but through him. The saints are described in Revelation as those who “hold to the testimony of Jesus.” ((Rev 12:17 KJV)
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The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see God’s whole truths. Mind you and do note how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses, and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..

I was VERY MUCH surprised how crooked many of the Evangelical pastors, elders, churches are and the Catholic ones too. I have to admit it all came to me as a shock firstly when I started to attend Evangelical, Baptist, Brethren, Mennonite, Pentecostal
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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even.. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.” where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.” Which most often is the case.
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I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism, tithing etc.

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Now had most fundamentals evangelicals actually read their Bibles, known the Bible instead of wrongfully listening to the so called Bible teachers, false preachers, bad teachers they would not have easily deceived to neglect the present full empowerment available of all believers by the Holy Spirit…

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We even today have loads of false Messianic Jews and others like the “Plymouth Brethren”, Evangelical Dispensationalists, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses. Mormons. now also are.. trying to corrupt the Church. with False information, More futuristic prophecies and information, an the anti Holy Spirit Movement, Zionism, Eternal security too, even the coming rapture of the church which could never be found in the New Testament, Past Christianity is still being brought to you by the Devil..

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All of the Biblical Scriptures are clear and understandable and profitable for all things pertaining to life and godliness if one gets the right interpretation from the Holy Spirit and not mere men as rather too often is still the case.

https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/the-major-biblical-problem-with-dispensationalism/

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Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible’s as well
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see also
https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/
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The Plymouth Brethren
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Dispensationism, Cessationism, Zionism and the Bible
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http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/dispensationalists-plymouth-brethren/

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http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/
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http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/tonce-gods-chosen-people

Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections « Posted at wordpress.com

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren « Posted at wordpress.com

Clearly the Zionists are still immoral and Unbiblical | Hot discussions

Oppressors or Bullies are always unacceptable « Posted at wordpress.com

Jews, Israel, Arabs and Jesus Christ, the Bible « 2nd Wittness Weblog

The fall of Jerusalem « 1st Wittness

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/what-happened-to-the-promised-land/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/clearly-the-zionists-are-still-immoral-and-unbiblical/

http://antipreterist.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/why-im-not-a-dispensationalist//

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/you-are-a-messianc-jew/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/so-why-do-some-pople-falsely-push-the-rapture/

 

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/
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September 17, 2008

I have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are deceitful..

 

Bad Preachers, ” Spiritual deceivers are spiritual gigolos coming between Me and My Bride the Church.  They are trying to force My redeemed ones back under a dead Law, to whom they are no longer married.  They are spiritual butchers with surgical instruments who want only to “circumcise”  the gullible with just a “little bit” of My Law to cut off “just a little bit of their liberty”….  Preachers forever strive to “bring you under submission”. That seems to be oh, so spiritual, but what they really want is to bring you under bondage to be their slaves.  But beware of bowing your necks to preachers to allow them to put that yoke of bondage upon you ever again.  ” http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id74.html

 
 
I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren Baptists  are liars also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not  give them what they want..
do now see also  the postings on the topic of Control freaks  in http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/
 
 

One of the best way to catch fish, suckers  is to use a snared hook, loaded with live bait. Many Many bad  preachers do use do use genuine live bait, a genuine sounding doctrine, truth  but adding a lie, a hook  also,  to the unsuspecting  naieve person, the bad preacher now telling them, guaranteeing them a  Divine Appointment,  that he will next share with them, and will tell them only the whole truth.. even all now based solely on the solid rock of the preserved Word of God, even as God himself now opens doors for me to touch the lives of others, and WOW, Unbelievable, and sadly YES too often that is true.. suckers are caught with a hook.. in churches, on TV too,   Unbelievable..  all occurring  sadly of course by the PRESENTER, AUTHOR, bad preacher  unacceptably neglecting to tell them all beforehand about the hidden lies, the false snares, hooks of course!!!  

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The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see  God’s whole truths.  Mind you and do note how how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses  the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses,  and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..

I too now have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are most often  deceitful in their evangelical outreach, presentations.. meaning that they speak with a forked tongue, and meaning they generally are not straightforward and honest, immediately forthcoming what they really believe in, who they really are now firstly too, and so we all have to beware of them.. and now I have known much too many of them  too..  and I had next found just a few of them that were really honest, Christians, only a very, very  small portion.

When I look at a new professing Christian site  such as vision20twenty   and it makes the typical general  proclamations that they will next guide and lead us into all truth, and only will offer the whole truth, and that they are also non denominational, real Christians, who now do promote now only the Bible and nothing more than that  and   based on my past encounters, experiences now  I can most often be rest assured they are mere wolves in sheep clothing, the  false Brethren with their false  dispensational doctrines… including now http://vision20twenty.org/ where” God gave man a new dispensation (stewardship) of truth”

There are few Dispensationalist who do even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, many falsely as well do not accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.

 

(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.       
(Luke 6:40 KJV)  The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.    
 

 

(John 17:23 KJV)  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

 

(Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
(Gal 3:3 KJV)  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
(Eph 4:13 KJV)  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
(Rev 3:2 KJV)  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Do see http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/subtle-but-still-false-counterfeit/

(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
(Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
(Acts 20:31 KJV)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
(Acts 20:32 KJV)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
(Acts 20:33 KJV)  I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
(Acts 20:34 KJV)  Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
(2 Tim 3:2 KJV)  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2 Tim 3:3 KJV)  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2 Tim 3:4 KJV)  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2 Tim 3:5 KJV)  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2 Tim 3:6 KJV)  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(2 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

That last line is now  really true..

 IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  
  
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

see also

The too common abusive silent treatment
Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too.
Deliberate unforgiveness
Control freaks
More about Control freaks. Fears  
 
Can a person change?   very very unlikley 
 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/ 

 

July 11, 2008

Amazed

 I am honestly always amazed at all those so called teachers, prophets, who preach and/or write to us all about what God cannot do today, such as God now cannot heal, deliver us from all evil..
 
These false preachers show to me how Bible illiterate they are, they really not only do still not know God, Jesus Christ, but the Bible itself.
 
Is 63:7 I will recount the loving-kindnesses of the Lord and the praiseworthy deeds of the Lord, according to all that the Lord has bestowed on us, and the great goodness to the house of Israel, which He has granted them according to His mercy and according to the multitude of His loving-kindnesses. 8  For He said, Surely they are My people, sons who will not lie [who will not deal falsely with Me]; and so He was to them a Savior [in all their distresses]. 9 In all their affliction He was afflicted, and the Angel of His presence saved them; in His love and in His pity He redeemed them; and He lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. 
      
Is 64:4 For from of old no one has heard nor perceived by the ear, nor has the eye seen a God besides You, Who works {and} shows Himself active on behalf of him who [earnestly] waits for Him.5 You meet {and} spare him who joyfully works righteousness (uprightness and justice),
 
Is 64:8 Yet, O Lord, You are our Father; we are the clay, and You our Potter, and we all are the work of Your hand.
 

 and it does not take any preacher to tell us how easily corrupted, and too easily led astray our carnal body of flesh still is! and how we have to be continual on guard against the devil and his followers now still too.. Beware of the devil, Beware of men, Beware of the carnal flesh!
 
Rely on the Holy Spirit of God instead!!!
 
(Rom 7:14 KJV)  For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
 
(Rom 8:7 KJV)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
 
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
 
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
 
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV)  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
 
(2 Cor 10:4 KJV)  (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
 
(Exo 23:21 KJV)  Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
 
(Deu 6:12 KJV)  Then beware lest thou forget the LORD, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
 
(Deu 8:11 KJV)  Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day:
 
(Deu 15:9 KJV)  Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee.
 
(Judg 13:4 KJV)  Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink,
 
(Prov 19:25 KJV)  Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
 
(Mat 7:15 KJV)  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 
(Mat 10:17 KJV)  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
 
(Mat 16:6 KJV)  Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
 
(Mark 12:38 KJV)  And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
 
(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
 
(Acts 13:40 KJV)  Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;
 
(Phil 3:2 KJV)  Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
 
(Col 2:8 KJV)  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 
(2 Pet 3:17 KJV)  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

 

 

 

 

May 23, 2008

Good and Bad Unacceptable theology

Good  acceptable  theology
 
Holy Spirit  Here are some great articles on the Holy Spirit
The Faith Posted by: thenonconformer | May 20, 2008

 (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

        
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
 
Dispensationalism, IS FALSE BUT IT IS A GREAT MONEY MAKER, for IT SELLS A LOT OF BOOKS, TAPES, MOVIES TO THE IGNORANT, to all those persons who do not read the bible honestly for themslves.. it is a great cash cow.
 
Isn’t it ironically and hypocritical while there is only one Bible many Christians ALSO cannot agree on the role of Israel today and in the future, and many cannot agree on the role of the Holy Sprit now as well.
 
 A house divided against itself cannot stand (Mark 3:25)  applies to  Churches, and our homes, and our marriages too.
(Prov 16:19 KJV)  Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
 
All these Dispensationalist have to quote solely it seems the Old testament to support their views? what their views are not confirmed by Jesus and the apostles?
 
I had talked face to face with now an ex president of the Canadian Christian Missionary alliance on this too.. the only thing he could confirm for sure in prophecy from the Bible was the return of Jesus Christ… the rest was filled with contradictions, controversies still
 
The subject of Israel’s prophecy made Daniel sick too..(Dan 8:27 KJV)  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
(Dan 12:4 KJV)  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
 
IF Daniel WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DEAL WITH IT HOW CAN ANYONE ELSE?
 
People would be better of living the  life of Christ today (Mat 6:34 KJV)  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 
The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America.  I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too.
 
For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
  
And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected officals.
           

The Bad Unacceptable  theology

Dispensationalism

Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the  THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.

Incidentally because of Rev. Hagee’s  false views on Israel  I have from the start rightfully not supported Rev. Hagee’s endorsement of US senator McCain  “I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.”  22 May 2008  This is the same John Hagee whose support John McCain was originally  “glad” to have despite “condemning” some of his views.      

 Hagee’s views on Israel supposedly have nothing to do with Israel’s best interests and everything to do with Hagee’s own interest in promoting his own radical viewpoints. Hagee is opposed to territorial concessions for peace and a two-state solution.   He is outspoken in his support for military action against Iran. [  He raises money to build illegal Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories and opposes a shared Jerusalem. 

Senator McCain’s  past embrace of John Hagee spoke poorly of his judgment of personal character, it calls into question whether he has any understanding of what it really will take to bring about peace and security in the Middle East.

Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/

The  bad fruits of Christian Zionism Of great significance that John Hagee and his scantly veiled two-covenant theology has overlooked in pursuit of a personal political agenda (in the name of Christianity) called “Christian” Zionism and what appears to be a strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judiasm are the powerful words and teachings of Paul written in Romans Chapter 9 and Galatians Chapter 4 and 5

 

Doo see..

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

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A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (1) This is an interesting study.
By Nathan Pitchford posted at Monergism;
Note: This list represents a wide segment of popular Dispensational teachings; however, Dispensationalism is by no means a monolithic entity, and many self-professed Dispensationalists, particularly in the Progressive school, would not adhere to many of its points.
Introduction:Dispensationalism is basically the method of interpreting the scriptures that […] Filed under: Being Equipped, Bible, Theology | Tagged:  

A critique of Dispensationalism directly from the Scripture (2) continued from part (1)
2. The Fulfillment of Prophecy
A) The true heir of the Old Testament promises is not ethnic Israel, but only Christ, the one Seed of Abraham.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as […] Filed under: Bible, Theology | Tagged:

Judeo – Christianity Does Not Include Jesus Christ Or Messianic Jews Excellent post by Job at Primitive Christology
He makes some excellent points on the letter posted (here) yesterday. Filed under: Bad Theology, The Apostasy | Tagged:

THE ISRAEL OF GOD: a consideration of so-called “Replacement Theology” Excellent teaching on a much misunderstood topic by Peter Cohen at Messianic Good News:
“You Cannot Have The Promised Land If You Do Not Accept The Promised Prince Of Peace” unknown
In his book “The destiny of Israel and the church” Derek Prince stated: “Essential truth is usually simple, and the truth is, Israel is Israel, […]  Filed under: The Church, Theology | Tagged: ,  

Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth How important is it that we rightly divide the Word of God? In today’s world of multiple erroneous and/or false teachings, its imperative that we learn to do so for false teachings and beliefs have a way of multiplying and building upon each-other, until finally the ‘whole house’ of theology we have erected is […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Bible, Theology | Tagged: , , ,

Baaaaad Theology You know, I found some of the comments made by this pastor really sad (its an old article from January 06).
The WashingtonPost: Among Evangelicals, A Kinship With Jews
I won’t post the entire article, its 3 pages long, but just a few quotes:
DANVILLE, Va. — Everyone who worships at the Tabernacle quickly learns three facts about […] Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged: ,  

The Fruit of ‘Bad’ Theology Last evening when reading through and posting the article from the Christian Post: Evangelical Leaders: Jews Need Jesus Christ, brings rebuke from ADL, I was overjoyed to read that many Christian pastors/leaders etc stepped up publicly, declaring Jews need and can only receive salvation through Jesus Christ. On the other hand though, I thought […]  Filed under: Bad Theology | Tagged:

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (1)  A couple weeks back I posted the link to this in “The-Ologys”, but after re-reading it tonight decided to post it in (2) parts on the front page: I believe its an important article and message.
From Monergism: The Threat of Christian Zionism by Nathan Pitchford
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If the phenomenal success of the bestselling Left Behind series indicates […] Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

The Threat of Christian Zionism, Politics, and John Hagee (2) continued from part (1)
What Are the Potential Results of Christian Zionism?
In light of what has previously been said, it should be apparent that Christian Zionism has the potential to shape the beliefs and practices of its adherents in a great many arenas. Some of these will now be designated more clearly: Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, False Teachings | Tagged: , , ,

Mis-applying Scripture Just writing from my heart right now–so forgive me if this post appears to be somewhat scattered.
Some days my frustration level almost reaches the point in which I’d just just as soon never read another commentary, column, or private teaching on anything or by anyone ever again, and just stick to the Bible. I get […]  Filed under: Bad Theology, Eschatology, Musings | Tagged:

Wine Drinking

Funny how many Christians try to justify their wine drniking, and what next their pornography, bad drugs too? If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men.

Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers 1 Cor 6:10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers {and} slanderers, nor extortioners {and} robbers will inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God.

We know that alcoholism is a terrible sin that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well.

Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone.

 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friends.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc..

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