Missing the point?

November 12, 2008

as to why some have left their Church

  

I have written about this before, if you do not like your church, merely start your own church, most churches historically are splinter, break away groups http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/
 
There are many reasons people still do give for quitting, leaving their church, reasons  even such as ,
 
1: There are too many hypocrites in the church
2: all they want is my money
3: I do not support a one man ministry
4: they only practice a small portion of the Bible, they pick and choose what they like,
5: it is just a cultural, or a social club
6: they kicked me out cause I was poor
7 The Church was imperfect and it reminded me I was imperfect
8 They did not recognize my spiritual gifts or ministry
9 God told me to establish my own church
 
Sadly most Christians still really do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible  personally too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, so they talk about things they really do not know, that they have not experienced, and yes the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too,  but they still love to judge the others but why?Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments. Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches today We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatic, have no foundation of the Holy Spirit in their life. Most believers that I have met have never once read the bible cover to cover. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Nothing could be father from the truth, disobedience and rebellion no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – brings forth eternal death in your soul. (Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15
 
It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it.But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, anointed gifts, so how  can you really honestly judge any of the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..
 
> I LEFT THE TONGUES MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF:
1. Sincere convictions regarding their doctrines, emphases, and practices.
2. An unsound biblical basis for their doctrine of the Holy Spirit.
3. An over-emphasis of one gift of the Holy Spirit.
4. An under-emphasis of other doctrines.
5. Their “experience” orientation.
6. The undermining of the personality of the Holy Spirit.
7. Spiritual pride and disunity produced by their doctrine.
8. The teaching that tongues-speaking is a sign of spirituality and even of salvation.
9. Sign-seeking instead of faith.
10. Questionable activities practiced and condoned.
11. The fear of questioning the so-called activities of the Holy Spirit.
12. The view that the Corinthian church was a model church.
13. The danger of claiming extra-biblical revelation.
14. The excesses and deceptive practices condoned in divine healing campaigns.
15. The tendency to blind, unquestioning devotion to popular leaders.
16. The possibility that the Charismatic Movement will be instrumental in producing the prophesied world ecumenical church of the last days.
17. Their distortion of the true Spirit-filled life.

>Miracles (divine intervention suspending natural law) have ceased (Zech 13:1-4). God is still all-powerful, but he is today working providentially. The miracles of the New Testament were temporary, confirming Jesus was the Christ, and the apostles were his messengers (John 3:2; Acts 1:8). When the New Testament revelation was completed (1 Cor 13:8-10), miracles ceased (Mark 16:19-20; Heb.2:3-4). The New Testament is complete (Jude 3, John 16:13). The word is what we need to guide us (2 Tim 3:160.

>As a Pentecostal, I never saw a miracle like the lame or blind healed or the dead raised. They came unhealed and left unhealed. One of the greatest “miracles” of Pentecostalism was that I did not have the eyes to see the truth (2 Thess 2:9-12), but let the power of suggestion and emotions blind me.

You went to the wrong church, for  I have seen miracles the last 50 decades, real ones and often, and if you humbly seek God and not do your own thing you will find him here on earth, he is all around all of us too.. http://afollowerofchrist.multiply.com/ 

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too. But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead.. So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game? so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is also still reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..
 
Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists too, and many others they also are not Christians- certainly thus not anointed by the Holy Sprit, and not by along shot.. for they had missed out as to who Jesus Christ the Messiah was, and not just who who the Holy Spirit is.. so how can they even be anointed ones.. Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists, others have   a religion yes, but the true religion? certainly not.
 
Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn.. I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too.
do see also
 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 
 

And the answers to the question as to why some have left the church is not more important then as to why some persons have next left their Faith altogether. In my lifetime 50 percent of once loudly professing Christians, like the Apostle Judas left the faith altogether, basically cause God did not give them what they had wanted, hoped, expected initially..  so they no longer had any use  for God..  for they had falsely used   religion  as a mere   tool to advance themselves, or to prosper, or whatever.. and when they did not get what they wanted.. they gave it up on their religion too easily… and generally tend to blame  others for doing so in the process too 

 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof.. 

My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?

If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish cheapskates. True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one hour and pray daily for others. And what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act like real anointed Christians.

I admit there are much too many even crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON often that CHRISTIAN  FIGHTS have  ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).” 

(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Actually the degree of negative personal consequences also are determined as to how quickly you on your own had repented of your major sins, or did Gold almost have to force you into confession of your sins as he did to King David And many People would know that already too had they actually read the Bible as they lying often claim they do too.

Where is the power of God that we see in the Old and New testament Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible? Why do we not see this power.. Is it’s God’s fault or ours rather still?

 Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.

The world is seeking scientists or money. The Church is seeking scholars. But God is seeking his true servant, true believers, true prophets. Most people even professing Christians have not experienced God goodness, power, manifestation, Holy Spirit, His Word too, cause they are too busy still doing their own thing even.
 
(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

 

(Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

 

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/fallacies/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 

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November 9, 2008

The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible

 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High
 
Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible  include  Wind, Air, Breathe, fire, water, oil, truth, light, power  as well.
 
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send  in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things  to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. – John 14:26  And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened,  and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him.–Mark 1:10
 
Various symbols are used in the Bible to represent the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, God now  including a dove, wind, light, oil, and fire and others, where  each symbol emphasizes a different, permanent, aspect, attribute  of the same the person of the Holy Spirit. 

The Dove – The Hebrew word for dove is yohnah and is derived from the word anah, meaning, “to mourn,” showing that the name comes from its characteristic mournful coo. The dove was the preferred bird for sacrifice if only one bird was used, and usually mentioned first when both a dove and a pigeon were required. Doves has been called “the sheep of the bird world” because of their gentle disposition. They are noted for their devotion to their mates.  The dove is thus used as a representation of the holy spirit apparently because of its sympathetic nature, compassion for the human race. Jesus by his Holy Spirit   demonstrated   compassion by healings and miraculous feedings of the multitudes, and by his willingness to give the ultimate sacrifice of his own life for mankind’s salvation.

Oil- Note twenty-third psalm says, “Thou anointest my head with oil.”  Isaiah 11:2, “The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, 1) the spirit of wisdom and understanding, 2) the spirit of counsel and might, 3) the spirit of knowledge and 4) of the fear of the LORD.” (See also Exodus 31:3.)-

Individuals were anointed for a specific service, the leaders and  Kings were anointed,   Priests were anointed, Psalm 133:1,2. A Prophet was anointed such as  Elijah was told to anoint Elisha as his successor (1 Kings 19:16). Jesus was anointed. “And Moses took the anointing oil and anointed the tabernacle and all that was therein, and sanctified them. . . . And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron’s head, and anointed him to sanctify him.” − Leviticus 8:10,12  “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek . . . ” − Isaiah 61:1  These two texts show direct close connection between the holy anointing oil and the work of the holy spirit. 

Oil for healing  “Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord” (James 5:14). The word here translated sickness in the next verse is astheneo, and literally means “without strength” and may refer to spiritual depression as well as physical sickness. In verse 15 the word sick is the Greek kamnos and is translated “be wearied” in Hebrews 12:3. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

Oil for medical treatment: “From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness in it, but wounds, and bruises, and putrefying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment” (Isaiah 1:6). The Good Samaritan “bound his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.” When Jesus  sent out the twelve disciples two by two, among other acts they “cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them” (Mark 6:13).

Oil  used as a moisturizer, Soap and toiletries.  . It was with this balm that a woman ministered unto Jesus in the Pharisee’s house. Jesus said, “My head with oil thou didst not anoint; but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment” (Luke 7:46). Likewise the prophet writes, “Then washed I thee with water; yea, I thoroughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil” (Ezekiel 16:9).

Oil   as fuel, source of light (John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.15  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

 
Note the golden lampstand in the holy of the tabernacle (Exodus 35:14). The operation of these lampstands can be seen by comparing Zechariah 4:1-14 with Revelation 11:1,2. In Zechariah the oil for the lampstand’s seven lamps comes from two olive trees, which are identified in Revelation as God’s “two witnesses” (the Old and New Testaments). The seven pipes carrying the oil represent the means of conveying this oil to the lamps, i.e., the seven messengers of Revelation 2 and 3.

The concept of the oil of the Holy Spirit being used for a proper light is also shown in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). There the supply of oil distinguishes the one group from the other. This illustrates how  professing  Christians with a sufficiency of the holy spirit become a part of the  final wedding party with Christ, while those having little or none next do not.   

 
Fire and light are symbols of the Holy spirit again. Fire itself also   signifies  destruction or purging as in the refining of metals. On Pentecost we meet yet another representation of the holy spirit. Along with the sound of a mighty rushing wind “there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them” (Acts 2:3).   (Isa 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
 
Wind is another common symbol of the work, presence of the Holy Spirit.  The Greek and Hebrew words translated “spirit” (pneuma and ruach) are also translated either “wind” or “breath ” Both the words wind and breath are also used in close conjunction with the Holy Spirit himself, as can be seen from these texts:
 
“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a mighty rushing wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting . . . and they were all filled with the holy spirit.” – Acts 2:1,2,4 “And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the holy spirit.” – John 20:22
 
We find, in the original creative process, that the breath of God was the activating force in giving life to Adam: “The LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul” (Genesis 2:7). Likewise it is the spirit that gives life to the true Christian and it is the same spirit that will eventually raise all mankind from the grave and endow them with new life.
 
Thus the distinct aspects of the Holy Spirit are shown by these symbols which picture the functions the holy spirit is to desirably  play in each of our lives:
 
 AND YET WHILE MANY EVEN PREACHERS TALK ABOUT THE HOLY SPRIT THEY HAVE YET TO EVEN TRULY EXPERIENCE HIM PERSONALLY. They Have not been born  even FROM above or anointed  by the breathe of Christ’s spirit. So they talk about him as an “it” rather.. and thus show their void reality.

  “The spirit breathes where HE  will, and YOU  hear HIS voice, but YOU DO NOT KNOW  FROM WHERE HE CAME , or where he goes; thus it is so with every one who has been born of the spirit” (John 3:8 ).

 
Not everyone next has yet been born from above too. But Ye Must be born again said Jesus to enter Heaven next.

 and what about you have you recieved the anointing of the Holy Spirit in full yet? Never to late to do so as well.

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/

 

“Someone once said ” Lord, fill me daily with your Holy Spirit for I am a leaky vessel. Let us come each day afresh to the Lord for that fresh in filling of the Holy Spirit. That our cup my be over flowing. http://peebles.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/psalm-23-v-5-he-anoints-my-head-with-oil-my-cup-over-flows/

Acts 1 V 8 says “ But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” God wants our lives to be power full for him, with joy in the Holy Spirit, for as the Bible says in Romans 14 v 17 ” For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit “.

We should never take for granted, that we are filled with Gods Holy Spirit. Each and every day, would it not be a good idea to ask the Lord, ” Lord please fill me a fresh with your Holy Spirit, anoint my head again a fresh with the Holy Spirit, fill my cup and let it over flow with the peace, power and joy in the Holy Spirit “. Thank you Jesus.

May the Lord anoint you head with oil, may your cup over flow.”

do see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

November 6, 2008

After the elections Sarah Palin?

 Now that the election is over, and Barack Obama has been elected as the 44th President… are we still going to hear about Sarah Palin? Or will her name become obsolete? After elections, the opponent that loses usually disappears within a week after the election… but this is Sarah Palin we’re talking about… 
 

75 percent of evenagelicals still did not vote for Obama, or 49 percent of the voting US population..

“The media is already harping on the fact that 60 percent of voters expressed doubts about Sarah Palin being ready to take over as President should something happen to John McCain.

But if you study the exit polls carefully, there is no evidence that this fact actually influenced the vote.

When people were asked if Palin’s presence on the ticket was an important factor in their decision, 60 percent answered yes, 33 percent no. But of the 60 percent that said yes, 56 percent ended up voting McCain versus 43 percent Obama.

On the other hand, of the 33 percent that said no, only 33 percent voted McCain versus 64 percent Obama.

What does this mean? People who thought Palin’s presence on the ticket was important were more likely to vote McCain by a significant margin. So the media is allowing their bias to influence the interpretation of the data.

You can look even closer than that. Palin was picked specifically to influence a few key demographics for the Republicans – women, independents, white evangelicals and gun owners:

– White women voted McCain/Palin 53-46. That’s within the margin of error for how Bush/Cheney score with the same group in 2004, 55-44.

– White independents voted McCain/Palin 49-47. There are no comparable data on this group for 2004, but we do know that independents went for Kerry 49-48 in 2004, and 52-44 for Obama this year. It’s safe to conclude that the swing to Obama in this category was caused by non-white independents voting overwhelmingly for the Democratic ticket.

– White evangelical/born again cCristians voted McCain/Palin 74-24 in 2008, which is slightly lower than the 78-21 breakdown in 2004. But their share of the total vote was larger this time than last time (26 percent in 2008 versus 23 percent in 2004), so on balance the white evangelical/born again contribution to the Republican vote was probably about the same size as it was in 2004.

– Gun owners voted for McCain/Palin in the same numbers they voted for Bush/Cheney last time round: 62-37 in 2008 versus 63-36 in 204

So, in those four major target groups, Palin delivered the goods for the McCain campaign. These are groups that were skeptical about McCain before Palin joined the ticket.

In all four categories, the McCain/Palin share of the vote was virtually identical to the Bush/Cheney share in 2004. That seemed impossible before Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin will be a force to be reckoned with over the next four years.”

http://www.thesarahpalinblog.com/

Sarah Palin In 2012


It was a teary-eyed Sarah Palin who waved to the crowd in Phoenix last night and is now on her way home to Alaska to split time as Governor and Mom.

She has a son in Iraq, a daughter pregnant and an infant with Down Syndrome.

She has her hand’s full.

But she has made it clear that this is not the last we will see of Sarah Palin.

“I’m not doing this for naught,” Palin said last week, when asked if all the mudslinging in the campaign made her long for a return to the more sedate politics of Alaska, where she is governor.

After McCain’s stinging loss, Palin, 44, has emerged as one of the strongest brands the Republicans have got.

As one of the most recognisable figures in a party searching for direction and new leadership, Palin’s future role will be a major theme when Republican heavyweights weigh up strategies for the 2010 mid-term congressional elections.

“She definitely is going to be the most popular Republican in this country when this thing is over,” Republican strategist Ed Rollins, and former political director to president Ronald Reagan, told CNN before the election.

And the carefully coiffed conservative Christian who cast herself as a maverick, a reformer and an anti-corruption star, has clearly indicated the 2008 run wasn’t an end-all to her national political ambitions.

“I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we’ve taken, that would bring this whole” endeavour to nothing, Palin told ABC last week.

In the last pre-election episode of NBC’s Saturday Night Live, comedienne Tina Fey, in her much lauded role impersonating Palin, made a show of “going rogue” from the McCain campaign talking points by trying to hawk “Palin 2012” t-shirts.

At Republican rallies in recent weeks supporters too have been seen displaying “Palin 2012″ shirts and banners.

There has been talk in Hollywood of Sarah Palin getting a talk show; talk in Washington of Sarah Palin as the best fundraiser the Republicans have; talk in Alaska of Sarah Palin running for the Senate.

There is a world of options in front of Sarah Palin. She is the star of the Republican Conservative base and if you think she will stay in Alaska for long – you’re wrong.”

http://www.thesarahpalinblog.com/

 if you think the evangelicals have died for long – you’re wrong

November 4, 2008

The Eagle and The Olive Branch

http://www.chicagopropheticvoice.net/ProphetsSpeak.html

From the Desk of

Pastor Theresa Phillips

Chicago Illinois

Sr. Pastor

www.PraiseMinistriesInternational.com

 info@ChicagoPropheticVoice.Net

 

The Eagle and The Olive Branch

 Prophetic vision over America a NOW Vision

 

In worship Wednesday night 29 October /08 I was taken up by the wings of love …far up above the earth, above the America continent.  I ascended being carried by such love and adoration for mankind. I could feel the gentle touch of the Presence that escorted me beyond the earthly realm. I was peering down into the earth when I spotted a ring of fire.

It surrounded the White House .

Then it surrounded the city of Washington DC the Capitol and all the Monuments and the ENTIRE CITY

 

Instantly coming from behind me was a new wind… in this wind was the American bald eagle he was soaring with great strength

 

He soared past me not one wing flapping in  his eyes were  blazes of fire.

He was totally focused on Washington DC. in his beak He carried an olive branch .

 

This eagle soared all across the DC. area and around the White House. He did this several times.

 

Then he took off and went north… Moving very fast  soaring

The wind of the Spirit was in His Wings and he moved not wing he just soared

 

It went to Russia ,China, Hungary ,Paraguay , South America ,Cuba  Hawaii At one point i saw the Dome of the Rock and I saw Him soar over it  three times.

 

And back to the U.S.A . soaring thru the entire country and landed in Washington DC.On the roof of the White House. Where I last saw him perched on the flag pole.

Then…..

 The word of the Lord spoke to me

“This olive branch is what I have placed in  the mouth of the prophets I place an OLIVE BRANCH IN THE PROPHETS MOUTH America Prophets .

 

Prophets of America, prophecy rightly in grace and save the world from destruction.

 

It will be the fire of the prophets who will change the course of a nation . A holy fire !”

 

“These nations that were circled are where the nations where many prophets are in hiding.

American prophets prophecy to them courage to speak and have grace “

 

“Judgment begins in the house of the Lord not on the land of men  I will begin to show great discernment in the House of My Children says the Lord!”

 

 “I have not sent judgment I am sending A Prophetic Grace which will speak to MY church so they will love again.”

 

For through this  OLIVE BRANCH will love be extended by the hand of the King  Of Kings across the earth

GOD bless the Mouth of the Prophets

 

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Jesus is the nectar of the taste of GOD

Psalm 34:7-9 

7[The Angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him [who revere and worship Him with awe] and each of them He delivers.

    8O taste and see that the Lord [our God] is good! Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the man who trusts and takes refuge in Him.

    9O fear the Lord, you His saints [revere and worship Him]! For there is no want to those who truly revere and worship Him with godly fear.

I heard the words” Favor comes from the Lord of Grace and it  is open  and free at this very present time”.

 

Yes Favor to learn to grow, to experience, and, to be. YES TO BE!

Be what? To be what He as called you to be. An Ambassador of HIS Kingdom advancing rapidly throughout the earthy REALM .

 

The Lord showed me a very large diamond it was faceted on seven sides.

 

Inside this diamond I could see a hot flame the flame is the light of GODS love for this Church ever burning.The Flame is Jesus.

 

In every facet is a move of GOD presently working thru the earth today.

 

We know 7 is the number of GOD

 

 Prophetic words concerning “The Revival” in Lakeland Florida  The Miracles in Africa, The U.K. is coming alive . The Latin regions are about to come alive with the blaze of Mercy and the Asian Countries will begin to groan like never before  ALL these prophetic words are in the Realms of GOD .

 

Each realm or facet is in a different place or level or dimension.  Yet this diamond carries a brilliance that is so perfect I could barely look at it.

 

It reminded me of  the brilliance on Moses’ face when he descended from the mount.

 

Exodus 34:30
When Aaron and all the Israelites saw Moses, his face was radiant, and they were afraid to come near him

 

 Could this be the “Glory Dust” we see on the faces of some people?

That is a realm of GOD!

 

Yes it the obvious. A realm many go and  peer into then stand back and feel an awe about that  . GOD says GO and look and be not afraid for it is ME I AM  in that!

 

I AM the Awe Says GOD.

 

Then another facet is  Lakeland Florida where the Great Outpouring is taking place. Many are going to peer into that GO says the Lord I AM in that  I AM.

 

I saw another facet this one is different. This one has children in foreign countries getting aid from the church GO says the Lord I AM in that! I AM!

 

I turned over the faceted diamond and saw each facet was fitly joined together to make a point and this point represented  Holy Spirit  pointing us to The central flame  which is Jesus Jesus is flared upward a to the top where the stone is smooth … That is GOD the  Father ..The Final Landing place of GLORY a place large enough be in  the Kingdom of GOD

 

The 4th facet is the word of GOD  a place where those who only will rely on the Word of GOD to get what they need …This is ME says the  Lord It is ME I AM in that do it. I AM.

 

The 5th facet is the ministry of Salvation to the lost..

 

Ephesians 4:11

11And His gifts were [varied; He Himself appointed and gave men to us] some to be apostles (special messengers), some prophets (inspired preachers and expounders), some evangelists (preachers of the Gospel, traveling missionaries), some pastors (shepherds of His flock) and teachers

TO DO THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY ….

DO THAT! “I AM IN THAT” SAYS THE LORD I AM!

The 6th facet was the Warfare facet here I saw many who fight the good fight of faith and GOD says “do that I AM in that I AM!”.

 1 Timothy 6:12
Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses

 The 7th was Revelation. For it is in REVELATION we find the illumination of The Glory of GODS secrets to us.

 This is where we should  all find ourselves uniting. For the Cause of Christ is the Cost of Christ.. It is also the most secret place on the diamond.. It’s a  place hidden. There in all its beauty.  But, it is the most pivotal it is closest the point.  Pointing to Jesus the Flame of LOVE

Love is everything ..

 This diamond has fallen to the earth.  It has all the knowledge that the GLORY REALM is EVERYTHING GOD IS DOING.  This diamond carries all the BUZZ words we hear…

Zechariah 3:9
See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

When the Glory Appears all the earths battles and gross darkness fades away!

Habakkuk 2:14
For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea

FILLED? Yes it will be filled with  the radical ones  and the conservative ones , Demonstration and Proclamation, coupled with meekness and humility and power. All blessed with HIS Grace to get the tasks done.

SO what the Buzz all about these days? It’s about HIM and that HE is everywhere doing all HE can at once to win this great Harvest set before us. And there is enough for everyone to get what they need …. SO… “Go” says the LORD “IAM IN THAT, I AM”!

Theresa Forkins-Phillips

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