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November 12, 2008

McCain to Leno: ‘I couldn’t be happier with Sarah Palin’

Filed under: NEWS & POLITICS — Tags: — thenonconformer @ 9:23 pm
McCain to Leno: ‘I couldn’t be happier with Sarah Palin’   November 12, 2008  LOS ANGELES — In his first interview since conceding the election, John McCain said Tuesday that Sarah Palin did not damage his presidential bid, and he dismissed anonymous criticism aimed at her. ”I’m so proud of her, and I’m very grateful she agreed to run with me. She inspired people. She still does,” McCain told Jay Leno during a ”Tonight Show” Tuesday night. ”I couldn’t be happier with Sarah Palin.” Asked by Leno about griping about Palin from unidentified McCain operatives, he said, ”These things happen in campaigns. “I think I have at least a thousand, quote, top advisers,” he scoffed. Asked if Palin had drifted off message during the campaign, he responded, ”Did you expect mavericks to stay on message?” Meanwhile, in a series of national interviews Tuesday, Palin talked about the future and indirectly put her name in play as a possible future presidential candidate.  When Mr. Leno asked Mr. McCain about a run in 2012, when he would be 76, he responded: “I wouldn’t think so, my friend. It’s been a great experience, and we’re going to have another generation of leaders, and I’ll hope I can continue to contribute.” AP  http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/mccain/1274594,CST-NWS-mccain12.article
False Smears. In addition to mounting criticism about pricey wardrobe purchases for her during the race, a recent Fox News Channel report cited unnamed campaign sources saying Palin did not know Africa was a continent and could not name the three countries that had signed the North American Free Trade Agreement. Palin has dismissed such criticism as false smears planted by “jerks” too cowardly to speak publicly. William McGurn, a former speech writer for President George W. Bush and editorialist for the Wall Street Journal, urged McCain in a newspaper column on Tuesday to condemn the attacks on Palin. Asked about them by Leno, McCain suggested such criticism amounted to sour grapes from people claiming to be campaign insiders. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4AB0MR20081112

John McCain’s former campaign manager Terry Nelson says that if Sarah Palin plans to run for president, she should follow Barack Obama’s example and seize on her momentum. Nelsons suggests she take a shot at the presidency in 2012.  “Republicans are very interested in her, and some very excited by her,” Nelson told The Daily Beast. “I’d say strike when the iron is hot.” Nelson, who was the political director of the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign in 2004, served as McCain’s campaign manager until he was forced to resign in a staff shakeup last summer. While he says he is not (yet) plotting Palin’s ascension, he can see a clear path for her to take the Republican nomination in 2012.

 Now why will she Sarah Plain not go away to the dismay of the too often ungodly liberals, democrats  and why is it that she is still so popular?
Remember 49 percent of the Americans voted for John McCain .. and to a lot of Christians Sarah Plain still represents  decent leadership..

(Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, …




  1. John McCain was wise to chose Sarah Palin. Even though he didnt win, he will still be countable for introducing the American People to the next Ronald Reagan. “In heels” I should add. Palin, with a little work and studying, will make a great Republican VP or President Candidate. An awesome ticket would be with her as VP (again) and Mitt Romney as President.

    Comment by srhagerman — November 13, 2008 @ 1:49 am

  2. Everyone Mormon it seems wants to believe that Mormonism won’t be a problem if he runs in 2012. Think again. Mormon Mitt Romney’s Evangelical Problem is unsurpassable.. the right wing evangelicals will never, never support him for in their eyes rightfully Mormons are not even Christians, they are a cult, a sect, false prophets. What they do not need is to elect another anti Christ.. Romney is a Mormon, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS). Even the Catholics do not belive the Mormons are Christians.. Mormonism was never an issue when Orrin Hatch ran for president, but Hatch was never talked up with even a smidgen of the seriousness that accompanies the Massachusetts governor. We live in a political era in which, thanks largely to Republicans, candidates are virtually required to talk openly about their religious views. There is no way a Republican, especially in a GOP primary, can avoid the issue–if for no other reason than the press and the real Christians won’t let them. It’s understandable that political observers want to naively think Romney’s religion wouldn’t be a problem. Dream on…Romney’s obstacle is the evangelical base–a voting bloc that now makes up 30 percent of the Republican electorate and that wields particular influence in primary states like South Carolina and Virginia.” Mormons were not like us, they are not Christian”. Just as it is hard to overestimate the importance of evangelicalism in the modern Republican Party, it is nearly impossible to overemphasize the problem evangelicals have with Mormonism. It is a fixable and forever as well. To evangelicals, Mormonism isn’t just another religion. It’s a cult. “A stronghold of Satan”. They will not even accept Romney as vice-president, never mind a President. While the Mormons themselves do believe that they are the fully realized strain of Christianity–hence the “latter-day saints.” They acknowledge extra-biblical works of scripture (such as the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants), follow a series of prophets who claim to have received divine revelations, and teach that God inhabits an actual physical body. This is all blasphemy to evangelicals; and rightfully they argue that “the Bible explicitly warns against adding to or detracting from its teaching” and refer to the revelations as “realistic deception[s] by the Devil himself. “Most evangelicals still regard Mormonism as a cult,” “Evangelical Christians consider Mormonism a threat in a way that Catholicism and even Judaism are not. The LDS Church, they charge, has perverted Christian teachings to create a false religion. To be tolerant of Mormonism is to put evangelical Christianity at risk. And to put a Mormon in the White House would be to place a stamp of approval on that faith. 50 million Southern Baptists alone have been particularly vocal about labeling the LDS Church a “cult.” and declared that Utah was “a stronghold of Satan.” “evangelicals are regularly instructed as to why Mormonism is a cult.” That is just the start of how the evangelical Christians feel rightfully about the Mormons still too. Even Republican Charles Colson reminded his radio listeners that “while Mormons share some beliefs with Christians, they are not Christians.” “I respect Mormons and work with them,” he said, “but we can’t gloss over our fundamental differences.” One longtime political observer put it this way: “Publicly, it’s not an issue. Privately, it’s a big damn issue.” When Evangelicals are asked if “Would you be more or less likely to vote for Mitt Romney as a Mormon, and since some Mormons believe in polygamy?” The main answer still is never! For the Christians there is a already a sure and a much better option , one of their own, and it is undeniably Sarah Palin still. Yes the modern GOP’s reliance on evangelical voters and its elevation of personal religiosity will doom the chances of this candidate. Or, to put it in evangelical terms, it might be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for Mitt Romney to win any of the Republican nominations. All as simple now as that too.

    See also http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/neither-give-place-to-the-devil/

    Comment by thenonconformer — November 13, 2008 @ 7:15 am

  3. ok, thenonconformer, let me first start by saying you seemed well informed about the Mormon faith.
    2nd. What does it matter what type of relgion Mitt is associated with? We are not to chose a President baised on religion.
    3rd. Who can say what religion is correct. History shows that Catholicism is the oldest in Christianity, but then again they are recently a bunch of child molesters. Pritestants seperated from the Catholic church, and they have thier issues too. Taking in money and greed. Brainwashing people. And dont get me started on the evangelicals–they are hypocrites. They preach one thing then do another.

    I think that all forms of religion should be left out of the Presidential campaign. Religion has become so over rated. Its pathetic!

    Comment by srhagerman — November 13, 2008 @ 8:13 am

  4. Your own opinion about religion really still does not matter to many people, likely to over half the the US citizens.. but now you should see my post about Faith based polling results with regard to Obama now too.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/the-faith-factor-2008-vs-2004-exit-polls/

    But still a politician’s religion tends to shows his basis for a moral value or lack of thereof..

    even the religious people now still do have a right to chose whom they want.. even based on one’s relgion..

    LARGEST Religions in the United States, 2004
    Christianity 224,437,959
    Nonreligious/Secular 38,865,604
    Judaism 3,995,371
    Islam 1,558,068
    Buddhism 1,527,019
    Agnostic 1,398,592
    Atheist 1,272,986
    Hinduism 1,081,051
    Unitarian Universalist 887,703

    Religious Preference March 2002
    Christian 82 percent of which
    the Protestants are 52 percent
    and the Catholics 24

    Largest denominational families in U.S., (self-identification, ARIS) Adult Pop. 2004 Est.
    Catholic 71,796,719
    Baptist 47,744,049
    Pentecostal/Charismatic 6,219,569
    Assemblies of God 1,560,890
    Methodist/Wesleyan 19,969,799
    Lutheran 13,520,189
    Presbyterian 7,897,597
    Episcopalian/Anglican 4,870,373

    and all cannot disregard the influence they do also have on others too.

    According to a poll in the 1990s, about one in five Christians in the United States claims to be a Baptist The Baptists number over 110 million worldwide in more than 220,000 congregations, and are considered the largest world communion of evangelical Protestants, with an estimated 38 million members in North America.[4] Large populations of Baptists also exist in Asia, Africa and Latin America, notably in India (2.4 million), Nigeria (2.5 million), Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) (1.9 million), and Brazil (1.7 million).[5]

    Largest Christian denominations in the world
    2.1 Catholicism – 1.2 billion
    2.2 Protestantism – 699 million[2]
    2.3 Eastern Orthodoxy – 260 million
    2.4 Oriental Orthodox Church – 81.0 million
    2.5 Anglicanism – 77 million
    2.6 Nontrinitarianism – 23 million
    2.7 Nestorianism – 1 million

    and as per the supposed need of any separation of the church and state that is a clear demonic rule now too that cannot ever be enforced in reality ..any man or women who separates his political life from religion tends to have no morals.. and that is what the devil likes,

    My top 2 most read past posts on all 5 of my wordpress sites were about Sarah Palin firstly, Rev Todd Bentley secondly , and both are Pentecostals now too..

    next the general Christian topics, such as the bad Christian Missionary Alliance Church, are the thirdly most popular read ones.

    the Secular posts are all in the bottom ten percent .. in reality few bother to read them.. except about bad Bell, Sympatico ISP and bad cops. Bad RCMP..

    Comment by thenonconformer — November 13, 2008 @ 3:11 pm

  5. You seem well informed on Religion. But you must ask yourself: “Does (should) religion play a role in Politics?” The Constitution makes clear the act that government will not repect one certain religion. If religion comes into politics, then the the establishment clause in some way goes out the window. If we, in any way, elect any political candidate based souly on religion (or even let religion play a factor) then we are going against our Constitution. Elected officials should be chosen only on the facts the prove they are qualified, and have what it takes too lead: public speaking skills, leadership ability, knowlegde of the issues ect. Religion has no place in politics, and it should be left out.

    Comment by srhagerman — November 13, 2008 @ 10:53 pm

  6. Like I said you are expressing your own views which are in reality still not accepted as valid by many others, and they still are not even binding on the others too.. The US Constitution and the Canadian Charter of Rights still allows every and each person their freedom of religion, their own set of values, also human rights and freedom of speech, so even the religious people have the same rights, voting rights too as non religious persons.

    The Constitution also was made for the people by the people not rather people were made for the Constitution, thus the people are not to be false slaves of the Constitution , or the false misinterpretations of the Constitution by some others.

    And many of the founders of the Constitution now too were undeniably also religious folks.

    Every persons is still always free to chose any person any way they want, even based on their relgion, relgious values, that is what Democracy is.

    You or I cannot dictate to any of the others what they can and cannot do. Trying to do so is real a waste of time and energy firstly. Reality. You cannot change the other persons, only yourself.

    Comment by thenonconformer — November 14, 2008 @ 1:07 am

  7. MIAMI — Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska did something here on Thursday that she did not do in her entire campaign as the Republican Party’s vice presidential nominee: she stood behind a lectern and held a news conference. She was asked what had changed. “The campaign is over,” she said.“I’m trying to convey the message that Republican governors are a unique team,” said Ms. Palin, who said she was uninterested in discussing the campaign. But Ms. Palin did allow herself a look back after the brief news conference ended, as she addressed a session of the Republican Governors Association and told them that she had managed to keep busy since their last conference. “I had a baby, I did some traveling, I very briefly expanded my wardrobe, I made a few speeches, I met a few VIPS, including those who really impact society, like Tina Fey,” she said. Ms. Palin thanked the people who attended her rallies, including young women she hopes she has influenced. “I am going to remember all the young girls who came up to me at rallies to see the first woman having the privilege of carrying our party’s VP nomination,” she said. “We’re going to work harder, we’re going to be stronger, we’re going to do better and one day, one of them will be the president.” That raised again the question surrounding Ms. Palin since the election ended: will she run in 2012? “The future is not that 2012 Presidential race, it’s next year and our next budgets,” she said. It is in 2010, she said, that “we’ll have 36 governors positions open.” Ms. Palin tried to downplay her celebrity (even after a week in which she was featured in interviews on NBC, FOX News and CNN). In her speech, she tried to change the focus from herself to the work that Republican governors must now do, including developing energy resources to health care reform. “I am not going to assume that the answer is for the federal government to just take it over and try to run America’s health care system,” Ms. Palin said. “Heaven forbid.” She implored her fellow Republican governors to “show the federal government the way,” while also reforming their own party. “We are the minority party. Let us resolve not to be the negative party,” Ms. Palin said. “Let us build our case with actions, not just with words.”
    Her appearance was the highly anticipated moment http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/us/politics/14Repubs.html

    Comment by thenonconformer — November 14, 2008 @ 1:38 am

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