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September 14, 2008

Reverend Todd Bentley versus Republican Mom Sarah Palin

It is no well kept secret that too many  Bullies, Abusers, selfish, self centered, even professing Christians persons, too often with hidden motives and agendas too,  have been on the internet  using the topic  of the Florida Lakeland Revival Evangelist Reverend Todd Bentley, a latter rain Pentecostal healer too,  to hopefully attract readers to their own sites, and to bring to other persons their own often distorted point of views.
Much appreciated too now they rather  have now next refreshingly turned now to a new subject, the Republican Pentecostal Christian Sarah Palin as their main live bait to get  unsuspecting suckers,  readers  to their sites.
The new politcal  irony is that the Democrat Obama-Joe Biden alternative, preaching family life and universal health care, middle- and working-class tax relief, comprehensive job-creation programs and education-reform plans, now instead it is Sarah Plain, an amazing woman and an amazing role model instead of them now dominates and examplifies living  a good family life for all to see, and it is Sarah Palin who instead now   dominates the national political presidential  conversation by her self-identification as primarily a typical  working  mom.
Yes,  Visible management, Parenthood is on the top political agenda now.  The examplary Sarah Palin has already also inspired many editors to serve up endless stories about work-home balance, coping with teen pregnancy, the care of special-needs children, and the propriety of ambition in striving for demanding workplace responsibility despite the burden of caring for five children at home. For almost  every married adult can relate to a   real-life example of what it means to juggle heavy public and private responsibilities, and all of this now too  easily trumps the Obama-Joe Biden mere  political policy proposals at the water coolers. So unsuprisingly now instead the Obama campaign finds itself  unexpectedly in disarray as it tries to counter the surprisingly Republican working mom Sarah Palin support threat.
The past bashing of Todd Bentley has now clearly run out of steam for many especially since admittedly now confirmed  too  he is a typical normal sinful person, a too typical inadequate, bad  pastor, evangelist we seem to find in most denominations, much too many churches still too.
So these bad posters or hate mongerers it seems now instead on uplifting Jesus Christ now  some of these bad professing Christian  posters have started  to bash any other professing Christians who access their sites..  wow and unbelievable still too.. forewarned is fore armed.. ..
Often these same bashers, posters, critics really are incapable of it, so they   still do not discuss the Bible, or now even post any serious Bible verses, thus they like to remain as the devil’s advocates, the devil’s helpers, critics, working for the devil and not God clearly too.  Yes their old bad habits seem to die hard for them now too..
Sarah Palin now  clearly is a more refreshing Pentecostal subject now still too. She is a married mother, a church goer, a good administrator, manager, basically also a a good politician mind you many a demonic persons try to  slander her now too cause they do not like to see someone better than them in office it seems.
The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Palin has also certainly sparked an interest  into yjr Pentecostal religion and more interest  about the personal  life of  Honourable Sarah Palin and we are next going for sure get to see more of this too..  
Pentecostalism is now mostly a revived New Testament form of Biblical Christianity. It is now once again a major world wide Charismatic branch of Christianity .
The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Plain has certainly sparked  interest world wide into the Pentecostal, Christian religion, and now many persons world wide as well as in the Americas do seek, do want to know seriously what is difference basically  about this Christian religion from the other existing differing Christian religions.
 Many persons want to also know what Sarah plain specifically believes in beside her claim now of being a non denomination Bible believing Christian.  After all a normal,  genuine believer, Christian is a follower of Christ, the Bible and not any specific church, fellowship, denomination too. As to why some of them  they want to know more about her religion it seems it  is also still questionable.. any further reason to bash  her too it seems?
And I thought that all of the professing Christians were to be decent, kind, lving persons or is this how you too do now  find out all those that are real christians and those who clearly are not still too?
(John 13:34 KJV)  A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
(John 15:12 KJV)  This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
(John 15:17 KJV)  These things I command you, that ye love one another.
(Rom 13:8 KJV)  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
(1 Th 4:9 KJV)  But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
(1 Pet 1:22 KJV)  Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
(1 John 3:11 KJV)  For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
(1 John 3:23 KJV)  And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
(1 John 4:7 KJV)  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
(1 John 4:11 KJV)  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
(1 John 4:12 KJV)  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
(2 John 1:5 KJV)  And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
 (John 8:31 KJV)   If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
(John 13:35 KJV)  By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
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  1. Todd Bentley is not a reverend.

    He has never been ordained or been to bible school or seminary for any denomination.

    He has never been the ‘pastor’ of a church, he has been an independent itinerent evangelist for which no qualifications are required.

    Comment by Bene D — September 16, 2008 @ 3:15 am

  2. You say he was not ordained? Neither was Jesus, neither were the 12 apostles, or the other New Testament apostles..

    but the fact that too many of today’s pastors are ordained, DO have official papers undeniably does not seem to stop 55 percent of the pastors from committing adultery, or 70 percent of the pastors falsely counseling, or practicing divorce and who knows what else?

    gossiping, slandering and I too was really was surprised how many pastors I had personally met at the pastoral fellowships who did did these unacceptable bad things.

    But it seems Todd Bentley now he was ordained by the Revival Alliance, a group made up of prominent charismatic ministers who ordained Bentley the evangelist

    Thanks for the nice comment, much appreciated

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 16, 2008 @ 5:27 am

  3. Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.2 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. (James 1:19-25 KJV)

    but somehow the preacher who preach one thing themselves too often do the other still too.. I too would rather see a sermon practiced over on merely preached

    Speaking of false prophets, it seems to me that too many of the critics on the net can spot the phonies too quickly cause they themselves are phonies… and many others as well..

    WHEN I ENCOUNTER SO MANY bad people who try to abuse me, dominate over me on the net, in churches now too, actually someone they likely do not know and I have rather likely never met ,it says CLEARLY HOW FALSELY THEY THEMSELVES NOW ARE RATHER TO ME.

    and have you all not noticed the void of any Bible references, quotations on the supposedly prominent professing Christian discussions internet sites and is it cause they know they are spiritual phonies, or they really do not know the Bible to be able to discuss it? or what still wrongfully ashamed of it too?

    sure seems that way to me

    Comment by thenonconformer — September 16, 2008 @ 5:42 am

  4. >>just to touch on what now is apparent and apparently missed or not embraced during the outpouring, that is, Apostles “equip” the Saints, establishing them in the “Truth” so that the body builds itself up to stand against the wiles of the devils. How did C Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson, John Arnot and others miss or seemingly not discern Todd’s personal situations? These are the “seasoned” Apostles who embraced and ordained the young man into this equipping work as an Apostle of God for such a time as this outpouring. We can see now that it has come out some of what Paul was getting at, the heart of the matter when we read these things, “not to be tossed to and fro”, carried about by winds of doctrines, i.e. angels, speaking the “truth” in love, “be joined together spiritually”, as one body, “each part working properly” with one another, “not walking in futility of mind”, not being darkened in mind, not being alienated and so on. It’s all right there. And somehow with regard to this young ministry of Todd and his wife, you would think the well seasoned men of God, those Apostles and Prophets who are supposed to have known them well would have had more discernment?

    >Many of you know that an extraordinary healing revival has broken out in Lakeland, Fla., led by Todd Bentley. Unfortunately, there are some who have criticized or opposed this revival. History seems to be repeating itself. In order to stand with Todd and support Todd and this mighty work of God, Dr. Peter Wagner made the suggestion that some of the leaders of the Revival Alliance network, commission Todd as an evangelist and as a revivalist. Bill Johnson, John Arnott, and Che Ahn (three of the leaders of the Revival Alliance) have agreed to come for this special commissioning service. This is not an ordination service, since Todd is already an ordained minister, but this is to show apostolic support for Todd and to state that this revival is from God. Therefore, Todd would like to invite as many friends and partners to come and celebrate with Todd as he is commissioned by these apostolic leaders. [ InJesus.com, June 23, 2008 ] http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=PB007EU7&GroupID=VB006FHZ

    From my own personal encounters with John Arnot and his organization I do not even rightfuly believe he is a true christian firstly


    Comment by thenonconformer — September 16, 2008 @ 5:56 am

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