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July 16, 2008

Homosexuality

Filed under: family — Tags: , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 10:21 pm

 

Firstly I want to state that for all professing Christians Divorce is also equally wrong and hurts our society just as much.. and it too should not be practiced in any Christian church by any Christian persons too..

Now in the Christian church all lusts, rape, adultery, sex outside of marriage, per the Bible now too, is immoral, unacceptable, and was well all human rights abuses are also still unacceptable, whether it is verbal, physical.. God never approves of it neither should any of us.. the public exposure and prosecution of the bad persons serves everyone’s best interest next too.. being kind, nice to bad guys is a waste of time, for they will not change unless they themselves experience real, negative, personal appropriate consequences .. we need to hate all evil, all abuses and to be angry at it too.. we can use the whip to deal with it like Jesus did to chase out the money lenders, commercial business in the temple, Christian Churches solely. Some persons would say that many homosexuals are violent and sexually deviant, but others would rather point out that most of the violent, sexual deviants are heterosexual men harming women, then they next are charged with getting off-topic, but one still can add the reality that anyone who files for divorce, male or female is also a sexual deviant.. according the same Bible. We need to stand against all sins in the church.

In reality all men and women are still born sinners and do act as equal sinners. And thus all unacceptable sins and abuses need to be presented honestly, fairly and equally too and not just as one side bashings of the abortionists, or gays now too.. even in the churches now too. so everyone needs to repent, and to change as well even adulterers, divorcées, gays, lesbians, pornographers, abusers, molesters, thieves, robbers, smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts etc.,
 
Funny how some people try falsely to discredit Apostle Paul, the one chosen as his Apostle by Jesus Christ himself , even because Paul clearly condemned  Judiazers- Jews, divorce, adultery, and homosexuality,  all lusts too.. Jesus never abolished the moral laws too, he merely fulfilled the Old testament  covenant laws’ demand of death for each one of us, and not the right to now continue falsely in lusts, sins, evil deeds..
 
(Gal 5:16 KJV)  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
 
(1 Th 4:5 KJV)  Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
 
(2 Pet 2:1  KJV)   But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4  For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5  And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6  And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha ( gay culture)  into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7  And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8  (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds  9  The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10  But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
 
(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
 
 
 15 Reasons Why Homosexuality Is Wrong  and should not thus be part of any church.
 
” 1. Homosexuality injures the fabric of society, especially children.
A societal acceptance of same sex relationships gives vulnerable children the impression that same sex relationships are good, moral and healthy. Not only does the Bible condemn such behavior, but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy. A society that accepts immoral relationships cause children to stumble into immorality. Jesus Christ said that “if anyone causes one of these little one’s to stumble, (sin) it would be better if he put a mill stone around his neck and throw himself into the sea.” Matthew 18:6 Acceptance of these unnatural acts sets a society up for gender and sexual confusion, which brings about widespread immorality, which tears the family down
http://www.narth.com/docs/questions.html
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron2.html
 
2. Homosexuality is anti procreation.
Logically speaking, if everyone’s sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone’s sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.
 
3. Homosexuality does not offer the stability of a traditional family.
Children need the stability of a traditional family. Children need a real male Father and a female Mother for proper and healthy development. Naturally speaking, there is the necessity of each of the male and female contributions to a child’s life. (It has already been proven that boys without fathers end up in jail and practice destructive behaviors a great deal more than those who have fathers.) The vast majority of the public knows instinctively that it would be better if both parents are present in a child’s life. Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality. But is it loving to expose children to the predominantly damaging lifestyle of homosexuality? If homosexuality can be learned, what does that say about the argument that people are born that way?
http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_prohomo.html
http://www.coolcontent.com/Fathers/
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=6509
 
 4. Homosexuals have a higher incidence of infidelity.
Defining a Homosexual relationship as loving and monogamous ignores the reality of same sex relationships. Many say that the premise on which we should accept same sex unions is that some of them are “loving, monogamous relationships.” Same sex unions may be loving and monogamous from a worldly viewpoint, but if they had “real godly love” they would not subject each other to unnatural sexual activity that leads each other into sin. When we lead others into sin, we are no longer walking in love.  In regards to homosexual monogamy, homosexuals remain faithful to one partner about 25% of the time. This is a much lower fidelity rate, than their heterosexual counterparts, which is 80%. It is not unusual for homosexuals to have hundreds of sexual partners in a life time.
Special Note: What kind of stability will be afforded a child who is exposed to that kind of change of a significant other? I also say this against those heterosexuals who also co-habitat, it is unkind to children to expose them to continual relationship changes.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/040223a.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52876
 
5. Homosexuals have a shortened lifespan.
There is less likelihood that a same sex couple will even be alive to care for their child.  One of the reasons that Homosexual couples should not be able to adopt children or take in foster children is that according to many studies, the life span of homosexuals is much lower than that of heterosexuals. These tragic conditions create a much less stable home life for that child. Giving a foster or adopted child to homosexual parents is a form of relational child abuse. The child has been placed in a home in which the parents have an inherent shorter life span.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1814109/posts
 
6. Homosexuals have a much higher incidence of domestic violence.
Children should not be exposed to the higher levels of domestic violence of homosexuals. Another reason that same sex couples should not care for foster or adoptive children is that same sex couples experience much higher levels of domestic violence than their heterosexual counterparts. Some studies show that the rate is at least three times higher than that of heterosexual couples. It seems unkind to force children to be exposed to this higher level of violence.
The book Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them: Battered Gay Men and Domestic Violence by two homosexual researchers “estimated that 650,000 homosexual men are victims of domestic violence each year, compared to figures from the FBI which showed that last year 1,300 hate crimes were reported.” http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/3/282001e.asp
Study in China reveals higher incidence of domestic violence with same sex couples.
http://www.citizenlink.org/fnif/A000003990.cfm
Compares overall Domestic Violence Rates, and shows rates of violence against gay partners
http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/ncmain/n
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron1.html
 
 7. Homosexuals have a much higher rate of molestation than Heterosexuals
As much as 33% of child molestation is committed by homosexuals, and yet they only make up about 3% of our population. To allow homosexual couples to adopt children puts the children at greater risk of molestation.
 http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/040223a.html
 http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html
 
8. Homosexuality is not condoned in the Bible.
Acceptance of homosexuality in any form whether married or not has never been condoned in the Holy Scriptures of the Bible.  There is absolutely no evidence in the 6000 year history of the Holy Bible of the wedding of homosexual couples. Homosexuality is even condemned to the point of receiving the death penalty. Leviticus 20:13 Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul clearly taught that any immoral act was unacceptable before God. Popular opinion cannot change the fact that any immoral acts are an affront to the holy nature of God and His design. Those who are involved in these things are actually under the judgment of God. Romans 1:22-27, 32. 1Timothy 1:8-11 and  1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Jesus Christ also condemns all forms of immorality in Matthew 15:19. (The word Jesus uses in this passage for “immorality” is unlawful lust, or desire. (Consider this, that Jesus Christ, because He is the Word of God, God incarnate, wrote the very Law that condemns homosexuality) Leviticus 18:22, 20:13.  The Apostle Paul states that the Law was meant for the unrighteous and he states that homosexuality is one of those unrighteous acts. 1Timothy 1:8-11.
Many proponents of homosexuality cite a passage in Ezekiel as proof that the destruction of Sodom was not because of homosexuality. But Ezekiel 16:49-50 actually shows that the progressive sin of Sodom was ultimately the committing of abominations. V.50. Homosexuality was considered an “abomination” throughout the Old Testament, (morally abhorrent act) In the New Testament, Jude 1:7 Confirms the sin of Sodom was this gross immorality, men wanting to have sex with the men who had visited Lot in Sodom.
Some have said that the word “homosexual” was not even in the Bible when Paul wrote it. But the word does describe behavior that is relevant to homosexuals. There are two words used whenever homosexual is used by Paul the Apostle. In the literal sense the two words together speak of “male sexual cohabitation.” In modern terms it is describing the same sex relationship.
The passage by Paul the Apostle in Romans 1:22-27 is without a doubt a condemnation of same sex relations as it describes those who burn with passion for the same sex..
Homosexuality is condemned in the first and last books of the Bible, (Genesis 19:4-7 and Revelation 21:8, 22:15) which shows there is a consistent message throughout the entire Bible that condemns that kind of behavior.  That would explain why there is not one incident of homosexual marriage in the Bible.  And lest anyone put a broad stamp of approval of all heterosexual sexual relationships, heterosexual sexual relations are only acceptable within the bonds of marriage. Having sex outside of marriage with the opposite sex is equally abhorrent to God’s holiness and design for the family.
Special note: Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:11 that “such were some of you, denoting the fact that some of those caught in adultery or homosexuality were able to overcome it, by the power of Christ! Forgiveness is available to anyone who is willing to repent (turn completely around) and put their faith in Christ for salvation. Jesus Christ indeed died for the sins of the homosexual that they might be saved.
 
 9. Homosexuals want to redefine marriage, changing the uniqueness of heterosexual marriage.
The homosexual community does not just want acceptance for same sex marriage, they want to redefine marriage. Should it not seem odd that the definition of the institution of marriage, as being between a man and woman, for the past 6000 years is being thrown out for something less than what is natural and stable?  The agenda of same sex marriage proponents is to redefine marriage altogether which undermines the most stable form of marriage as being between one man and one woman.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/040223a.html
 
 10. Homosexual marriages will lead to other “unnatural” unions
 Defining marriage as acceptable when it is simply ‘loving and monogamous’ is highly problematic and leads to gross immorality. If we allow “loving and monogamous” relationships to be the standard by which we measure a legitimate marriage then I suppose that women could marry their horses or men could marry their pet dogs. This opens the door for any number of illegitimate relationships, including 52 year old men marrying 10 year old girls, brothers marrying sisters and mothers marrying sons. The movement for bestiality, which is sex with animals, has already defined their relationships to their animals based on the very language of the homosexual movement, that theirs is an alternative lifestyle and that their relationships are loving and monogamous. But lists these kinds of sexual relationships as a grave sin in Leviticus 18:22-23.  Interestingly, the sin of homosexuality is listed just before the sin of bestiality in that passage.
Same sex marriage opens up a wide door of acceptance for any kind of marital relationship which is damaging to the sanctity of marriage. Whereas real love in its purest form as defined in 1 Corinthians 13:6,   does not rejoice in unrighteousness.
Same sex relationships encourage a lifestyle that will keep one out of the kingdom of God, which puts us at odds with God Himself as sinning against Him and outside of God’s order for the family.
 
11. Homosexual marriage is not a “right”.
Keeping same sex couples from marrying is not discrimination. Keeping same sex couples from marrying is keeping them from discriminating against what is normal. Anymore than I feel discriminated against because I cannot marry my sister. Discrimination based on good judgment is a protection for the stability of society and the upholding of unalterable morals. A government allowing them to marry would be endorsing the unnatural.  Equal protection under the law was never meant to protect the enjoyment of what is immoral or harmful.
Equal protection regarding marriage means that anyone, who is a single, adult, can marry another single adult person of the opposite sex as long as it is not their relative. Besides, sexual orientation is only a behavior and not a fixed condition like race.  No one would agree that you can change your race, because that is something that is strictly defined by your genes.  Whereas there are tens of thousands who have overcome their same sex lifestyle to live out their lives the way God created them to be heterosexuals.  To give an immoral behavior a protected status or special rights makes society a proponent of that behavior, thus harming society as a whole.
 
12. Homosexual relationships are dangerously unhealthy.
Same sex relations deny some of the most basic fundamentals of proper mechanical applications of using their genitalia. Anal sex and lesbian sex is a misuse of what sexual relations were primarily intended to produce, children and intimacy solely between a man and a woman.  Doctors agree that anal sex is a dangerous, unhealthy form of sexual contact as the anal cavity was not intended for that kind of use. Therefore, even with heterosexual couples this activity is not safe.
 http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/analsex.htm
 
 13. God did not intend for same sex relationships to exist.
Genesis 2:18-24 says that after God created Adam, He decided to take a rib out of Adam so that Adam might have someone who was “suitable for him.” (v.18).The word in the Hebrew is “neged” which means a “counterpart or opposite”, for Adam. Even the word heterosexual implies an intentional joining of two different parts that are meant to go together.  ‘Hetero’ in the Greek language means “the other of two.”
 Consider this that God being all knowing would have pulled out 2 ribs if he thought that Adam should have the option of having a male mate as well. God would have also pulled out a rib from Eve so that she could have a female lover, if that was a godly option. But that is not what God intended from the beginning. He made them “male and female” that they would be joined. No other variation is acceptable in the Holy Scriptures.
We were created in the image of God. Homosexual relations are an affront to the very nature that we were meant to express, from that image we were made into. “He made them male and female. In the image of God did He create them.” God did not create quasi-males or quasi females. He made them to be either male or female. (In the instance of hermaphrodites, those children born with both genitalia, this is an expression of the fallen nature as with any other disease. This is not an endorsement from God for quasi female or males.)  We are told to flee immorality and that those who are immoral have sinned against their own body, thus they do harm to themselves. (1 Corinthians 6:18).
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hetero
 
 14. Homosexuality is not genetic.
Homosexuals are not born homosexual as studies of identical twins confirm this fact.  Studies have shown that identical twins could each have different sexual orientations, thus showing that homosexuality has little if anything to do with genetics. On the average, when one identical twin is homosexual, the other twin is homosexual 38% of the time. This does not give much credence to the popular notion that homosexuality is genetic.
 
 Even if there were a predisposition to a given behavior, this should not mean that one has license to practice that behavior. Predispositions to alcoholism, adultery, drugs, pornography or even homosexuality have more to do with our sin nature.  All of these behaviors have been shown to be controlled by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, by denying our self and having the power of the Holy Spirit in one’s life.  This fact has been confirmed in the myriad of testimonies of those who were saved in Christ from their sinful life of homosexuality.  Those who affirm that it is just their nature or that they were born that way are only admitting that they are controlled by their sin nature and do not know how to be freed or do not want to be freed.
 It is truly tragic that so many homosexuals are in bondage to that vice because they have accepted that lie that they were born that way. The only way their claim holds true is the same reason it holds true for me. We are all born sinners who need salvation and healing.
 http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead2.html
 
 15.  Homosexuals should not be given benefits of marriage.
Same sex couples should not be rewarded with the benefits of marriage, because immoral behavior should not be rewarded. It is not a matter of rights or fairness, if the act is immoral, why should that be praised or rewarded?  Most do not think that adulterers or fornicators should be rewarded alimony or benefits.  Should any sin be tolerated or promoted with benefits? Those who want the benefits of marriage should comply with the intent of the Creator that intended only marriage, between one man and one woman. Feelings for fairness do not determine what is right or moral or you will have moral anarchy. The reason heterosexual married couples are rewarded benefits is that society recognizes this as the best kind of relationship for stability and perpetuation of human kind.

Special note to my readers:
 It is not my intention to be harsh or hateful. My intention is to give what I believe to be sound reasons as to why same sex relationships are highly problematic for society and as well as sinful before our Maker whom we will have to give an account.

I do not ignore the fact that having a same sex attraction could be a very difficult practice to overcome. I am convinced that if one truly wants to put away the sin of homosexuality that they can overcome it. But it is best if it is by the grace and Spirit of God through the gospel of Christ. It is also imperative that one find a Bible believing church that will help you live a pure life in Christ.

There are some others, caught in the web of addiction to porn, drugs and other behaviors that may also have to fight for the rest of their lives to over come the flesh and the devil. But I am also convinced that all things are possible with God and that those who walk by the Spirit will put to death the deeds of the flesh. I too must struggle against my sinful nature each day, understanding that I am just like Paul who said, “who will deliver me from this body of death?!” Romans 7:24

I too must walk by the Spirit to remain pure for my wife. I too must be accountable in my church and receive proper instruction and exhortation from my brothers and sisters in the Lord.
We all need to find a loving and godly church that gives fellow believers great encouragement to continue on. My hope is that those who are trying to get out of the homosexual lifestyle will know that I salute them and want them to not go through their struggle alone.

 Lean heavily on the body of Christ to begin to practice a life of celibacy and holiness all to the glory of God. I am not here to cast stones at you, but I wanted to warn you like a friend, I want you to fall on the Rock of Christ for salvation! For Jesus Christ came to save sinners like you and I. We all desperately need help and healing!!
“For God so loved the world, (that includes you and me) that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes on Him (trusts in Him completely) will not perish, (come under the righteous judgment of God) but have everlasting life. (To know God and be in His presence forever)
 
Please go to these links for additional help:
Redeemed 10 ways to get out  http://www.venusmagazine.org/
Groundbreaking’ study shows ‘gays’ can change  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp
Focus on the Family       http://www.family.org/socialissues/
Stephen Bennett Ministries    http://www.sbministries.org/
Exodus International       http://exodus.to/default2.asp
Love Won Out    http://www.lovewonout.com
 
SCRIPTURES TO ENCOURAGE YOU
“And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ “I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.   Luke 15:6-8
“Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either Go From now on sin no more.” John 8:10-11
“It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery.” Galatians 5:1
“For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.” Galatians 5:13
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”    1 Corinthians 6:9-11
“When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”
Luke 9:54-56
If you have any questions I will be happy to respond as best as I can. I truly desire that you would know the truth and that the truth would set you free! John 8:32″ http://www.bfamilyadvocates.com/homosexuality.htm

All black’s, white, Jews, gays, Arabs, Muslims, natives, anyone else..  has a right to live peacefully without verbal or physical abuses. We also  all strive for acceptance of others, gays included, but when adulterers or the gays are next trying for Biblical acceptance of their undeniable immoral lifestyle, they certainly have gone to far.. they can never have it..  need to give upon at this absurdity. One thing is very very apparent to me is how so many people do even lie in their support of gay marriages.. and specially they twist Bible verses out of context.. and even refer to other distorted Bible passages that are unrelated.. only  foolish persons  would try to do that because any knowledgeable Bible scholar can see still their ignorance of the Bible.. so next they basically still have a problem with the Bible so they next falsely try to discredit that as well.. and in the process offend more religious persons and win even less  religious support too.  When clearly any naive person is so foolish to say next that Apostle Paul does not represent Jesus views, when Jesus had personally selected apostle Paul, that same persons shows his own total ignorance now of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the Bible.. and what he still wants the Christian’s,  Biblical support for the gays.. dream on.. HE OR SHE WILL NEVER NEVER EVER GET IT.. THAT IS THE REALITY! SO LIVE WITHOUT IT
 
We still cannot force anyone, gays included to believe like we do, to live like we do as well, for they have their own free will, rights too, but in love we can try to use our free speech right and tell them how the Bible sees their behavior too..
  

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

 
More Links
 
http://www.freewebs.com/jason-online/canada.htm

Kanadische Studie: Nur 1,4 % der Erwachsenen sind homosexuell!

Canadians Issue World Apology for Social Engineering Legislation

Only 1 Canadian same-sex couple “married” in Toronto this year

Order of Canada Awarded to Gay Pastor Who Attacked Vatican, Performed Illegal Gay ‘Marriages’ under Conservative Government


CANADA: Ex Gays Write Open Letter to Members of [Anglican] General Synod  2007

MercatorNet: Canada Ponders Polygamy

Ontario Liberal Premier McGuinty Boasts of Legalizing Homosexual ‘Marriage’

Demand For Same-Sex Marriage Was Based on a Lie

Canada: Evangelical and Catholic Groups Call for Curbs on Human Rights Commission after Anti-Christian Ruling

 

do see also
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/homosexuality/
 
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/john-mccain-sarah-palin-barack-obama-and-joe-biden/

Fret not!

 
 
My  Adventure with God, I am loved, forgiven,  transformed, changed, a new person, and I am serving the Lord, walking with God, I am in the promised land, miraculous, fascinated, my heart and life belongs to  Lord Jesus. God often speaks to me and reminds me,  says Have faith! I am holding you in the palm of my hand, and I am with you everywhere you go too. Be still and know that I am God, fret not because evil doers who make  their bad works come to pass, I know everything, and I still hold you and the world all in my hand.
 
(Psa 46:10 KJV)  Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
 
(Mark 4:39 KJV)  And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
 
(Psa 37:1 KJV)   Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
 
(Psa 37:7 KJV)  Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
 
(Psa 37:8 KJV)  Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
 
(Prov 24:19 KJV)  Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;
 
(Psa 27:14 KJV)  Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
 
(Psa 37:34 KJV)  Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
 
(Prov 20:22 KJV)  Say not thou, I will recompense evil; but wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee.
 

http://pbulow.tripod.com  
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
 
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/praying-for-healing/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/how-to-pray-for-healing/  
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/there-still-can-be-a-good-life-after-divorce-with-gods-help/  
http://www.filefarmer.com/freewp/howhealing.htm  
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/  
http://www.filefarmer.com/freewp/howhealing.htm

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

Just by me merely observing

Just by me merely observing in churches, on the net, in politics, elsehwere too, I too can see too many professing Christians act now even ungodly and next say wrongfully it is ok.. so do the bad pastors.
  
(2Ti 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
 
(Psa 19:7) The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
 
(Psa 19:11) Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
 
(Pro 13:13) Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded. 
 
Jer 7:2 Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house and proclaim there this word and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all you of Judah who enter in at these gates to worship the Lord. 3 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. 4 Trust not in the lying words [of the false prophets who maintain that God will protect Jerusalem because His temple is there], saying, This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord. 5 For if you thoroughly amend your ways and your doings, if you thoroughly {and} truly execute justice between every man and his neighbor,
 6 If you do not oppress the transient {and} the alien, the fatherless, and the widow or shed innocent blood [by oppression and by judicial murders] in [Jerusalem] or go after other gods to your own hurt,  8 Behold, you trust in lying words that cannot benefit [so that you do not profit].  9
Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, burn incense to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known, 10 And [then dare to] come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My Name, and say, [By the discharge of this religious formality] we are set free!–only to go on with this wickedness {and} these abominations? 11 Has this house, which is called by My Name, become a den of robbers in your eyes [a place of retreat for you between acts of violence]? Behold, I Myself have seen it, says the Lord. 12 But go now to My place which was in Shiloh [in Ephraim], where I set My Name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of My people Israel. 13 And now, because you have done all these things, says the Lord, and [because] when I spoke to you persistently [even rising up early and speaking], you did not listen, and when I called you, you did not answer, 14 Therefore will I do to this house (the temple), which is called by My Name {and} in which you trust, to the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did to Shiloh. 15 And I will cast you out of My sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole posterity of Ephraim. 16 Therefore do not pray for this people [of Judah] or lift up a cry or entreaty for them or make intercession to Me, for I will not listen to {or} hear you.
 
Jer 7:21 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices and eat the flesh [if you will. It will avail you nothing].  22 For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices. 23 But this thing I did command them: Listen to {and} obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people; and walk in the whole way that I command you, that it may be well with you. 24 But they would not listen to {and} obey Me or bend their ear [to Me], but followed the counsels {and} the stubborn promptings of their own evil hearts {and} minds, and they turned their backs {and} went in reverse instead of forward. 25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt to this day, I have persistently sent to you all My servants the prophets, sending them daily, early and late. 26 Yet the people would not listen to {and} obey Me or bend their ears [to Me], but stiffened their necks and behaved worse than their fathers.
 27 Speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to {and} obey you; also call to them, but they will not answer you.
Yet you shall say to them, This is the nation that did not obey the voice of the Lord their God or receive instruction {and} correction {and} warning; truth {and} faithfulness have perished and have completely vanished from their mouths. 29 Cut off your hair [your crown, O Jerusalem] and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the bare heights, for the Lord has rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath. 30 For the children of Judah have done evil in My sight, says the Lord; they have set their abominations (extremely disgusting and shamefully vile things) in the house which is called by My Name to defile it.
 
Jer 8:4 .. Thus says the Lord: Shall men fall and not rise up again? Shall one turn away [from God] and not repent {and} return [to Him]? 5 Why then is this people of Jerusalem turned away with a perpetual turning away [from Me]? They hold fast to deceit (idolatry); they refuse to repent {and} return [to God]. 6 I have listened and heard, but they have not spoken aright; no man repents of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? Everyone turns to his [individual] course, as the horse rushes like a torrent into battle. 7 [Even the migratory birds are punctual to their seasons.] Yes, the stork [excelling in the great height of her flight] in the heavens knows her appointed times [of migration], and the turtledove, the swallow, and the crane observe the time of their return. But My people do not know the law of the Lord [which the lower animals instinctively recognize in so far as it applies to them]. 8 How can you say, We are wise, and we have the written law of the Lord [and are learned in its language and teachings]? Behold, the truth is, the lying pen of the scribes has made of the law a falsehood (a mere code of ceremonial observances). 9 The wise men shall be put to shame; they shall be dismayed and taken [captive]. Behold, they have rejected the word of the Lord, and what wisdom {and} broad, full intelligence is in them? 10 .. for everyone, from the least even to the greatest, is given to covetousness (is greedy for unjust gain); from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely. 11

For they have healed the wound of the daughter of My people only lightly {and} slightingly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.

Jer 8:14 .. For the Lord our God has decreed our ruin and given us bitter {and} poisonous water to drink, because we have sinned against the Lord. 15 We looked for peace {and} completeness, but no good came, and for a time of healing, but behold, dismay, trouble, {and} terror!

Jer 8:22
Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then is not the health of the daughter of my people restored? [Because Zion no longer enjoyed the presence of the Great Physician!]
  
 I said it before often if the Pastors too often act bad themselves how can I expect the others to be any better now too even in Canada?
 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friends.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc..

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/the-pcs-said-the-liberals-were-crooked-but-what-about-themselves/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/and-if-the-righteous-scarcely-be-saved/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/pm-stephen-harper-needs-to-get-better-friends-needs-to-repent-himself-too/

 https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/

 

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