Missing the point?

July 2, 2008

unChristian

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(1 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
 
Christians are supposed to personally, in reality, to represent Jesus Christ to the world. But according to some report cards, something has gone terribly wrong. Using descriptions like “hypocritical,” “insensitive,” and “judgmental,” too many young Americans still share an impression of Christians that’s nothing short of . . . unChristian.” The  Pastors themselves do have to take a majority of the blame now too and not excuse it..
 
And you can see this definite fruit, result now  by the many bashings of the pastors on the internet, even on the so called Christian sites. Surprisingly?
 
Groundbreaking research into the perceptions of 16 to 29-year-olds reveals that Christians have taken several giant steps backward in one of their most important assignments.
 
UnChristian: What a New Generation Really Thinks about Christianity… and Why It Matters.
 
Why, the book even has its own website now. http://www.unchristian.com/

“Given the amount of attention that it has garnered, it’s worth asking if it’s right? Does Christianity have an image problem with non-believers?”Questions worth asking. But I would alter it slightly, and remove “with non-believers” from the end of it. That’s an interesting question… but I think there is something to be said for the same amongst believers too.     
    
Now the Image problem makeovers cannot be overcome  by hiring a public relationship expert, or designing a new sales, or marketing program, for one’s real acts do still always sound louder than the mere words, and the devil will broadcast the truth to all anyway about the pastor’s real sins too.. You are epistles known and read by all men.. and some do even read like a sex, crime, mafia  novel rather .. it is all  sad but true?
 
 I have found it often to be true that many pastors do see themselves differently from how others do see them AND too often too, BUT why?
 
(Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.
  
 
(Acts 1:20 KJV)  For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishopric let another take.
 
(Psa 109:8 KJV)  Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
 
You would be surprised to know how many pastors now are actually fired, dismissed from their church all  while their pasts sins are denied, covered-up mostly still too.
 
  
(1 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
 
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV)  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
 
(1 Tim 3:3 KJV)  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
 
(1 Tim 3:4 KJV)  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
 
(1 Tim 3:5 KJV)  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
 
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV)  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
 
(1 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
 
 Has God called pastors to be CEOs of religious organizations, or has he called men to be spiritual leaders over the churches of Christ? Neither… the elders run the church, and pastors are just one of the many church elders..
 
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

 https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/  

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

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Perhaps the best thing for preserving marriages is..

 

The most common complaint that I have heard in my lifetime from men, from about 60 percent of them, was I have only one major problem in my life and it is my wife.. and who had made him marry her in the first place?

Perhaps the best thing for preserving Christian marriages is their frequent church attendance, both of them, plus daily practising being a real Christian..
 
 Ever notice how few church people next do   go to the Sunday night services, or especially the Wednesday night prayer meetings now too? and why is that?
  

 
“here are the divorce rates among ever-married respondents in the General Social Survey (GSS, 2000-2004)—one of the best known sources of sociological data.
 
“Frequent” is attending church about once a week or more. http://brewright.blogspot.com/2006/12/christian-divorce-rates.html58%, non-frequent Black Protestants
54%, non-frequent Evangelicals
51%, no religion (e.g., atheists & agnostics)

48%, ALL NON-CHRISTIANS
48%, non-frequent, other religions
47%, frequent Black Protestants
42%, non-frequent, mainline Protestants
41%, ALL CHRISTIANS
41%, non-frequent Catholics
39%, Jews
38%, frequent other religions
34%, frequent Evangelicals
32%, ALL FREQUENT CHRISTIANS
32%, frequent mainline Protestants
23%, frequent Catholics

 

 

 

 

I also analyzed data from previous years of the GSS and from five other national surveys, and they showed the same pattern: Christians, especially those who frequently attend church, have relatively low divorce rates.”
  
 My real experiences is that I have been too often sexually propositioned , and so have many other pastors too,  in even the evangelical churches now too.
 
There is a demonic myth being spread today amongst the churches too that a 30 percent divorce rate amongst frequent Church attendees is acceptable.. but not in God’s eyes, for God says he hates Divorce!!! No divorce is acceptable  for HIM! Divorce , adultery are just as sinful, unacceptable  as prostitution,  pornography, lust, drunkness, cheating, lying, stealing  too.
 
(Mal 2:16 KJV)  For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
 
(Mal 2:17 KJV)  Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?
 

Many people are really astounded for the false reasons for the much too many divorces in America these days, even in the Christian Churches.

 

 

Now why is the prosperity Gospel so popular in America,

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A gospel that  is even clearly contradictory to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the apostles as well? while 2/3 of the world lives below the poverty line, and world wide many Christians do daily even suffer religious persecutions? so Why?
 
(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
 
(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
(Mat 8:21 KJV)  And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 22  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
 
(Mat 6:33 KJV)  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
 
(Mat 16:21 KJV)  From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
 
(Mat 17:12 KJV)  But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
 
(Mark 8:31 KJV)  And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
 
(Luke 17:25 KJV)  But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
 
(Luke 24:46 KJV)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
 
(Acts 2:27 KJV)  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
 
(Acts 3:18 KJV)  But those things, which God before had showed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
 
(Acts 5:41 KJV)  And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
 
(Acts 9:16 KJV)  For I will show him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake
 
(Rom 8:17 KJV)  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
 
(1 Cor 3:15 KJV)  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
(1 Cor 4:12 KJV)  And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
 
(1 Cor 6:7 KJV)  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
 
(1 Cor 9:12 KJV)  If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
 
(1 Cor 10:13 KJV)  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
(1 Cor 12:26 KJV)  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
 
(2 Cor 1:6 KJV)  And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
 
(Gal 5:11 KJV)  And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
 
(Gal 6:12 KJV)  As many as desire to make a fair show in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
 
(Phil 1:29 KJV)  For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
 
(Phil 4:12 KJV)  I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
 
(1 Th 3:4 KJV)  For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
 
(2 Th 1:5 KJV)  Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
 
(1 Tim 4:10 KJV)  For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
 
(2 Tim 1:12 KJV)  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
 
(2 Tim 2:9 KJV)  Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
 
(2 Tim 2:12 KJV)  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
 
(2 Tim 3:12 KJV)  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 
(Heb 2:9 KJV)  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
 
(Heb 11:25 KJV)  Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
 
(Heb 13:3 KJV)  Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
 
(James 5:10 KJV)  Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
 
(1 Pet 2:19 KJV)  For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
 
(1 Pet 2:20 KJV)  For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
 
(1 Pet 3:14 KJV)  But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
 
(1 Pet 3:17 KJV)  For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
 
(1 Pet 4:15 KJV)  But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
 
(1 Pet 4:16 KJV)  Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
 
(1 Pet 4:19 KJV)  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
 
(Rev 2:10 KJV)  Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
 
Also
 
(Mat 19:14 KJV) Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
 
(Mat 23:13 KJV)  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
 
(Mark 7  KJV)  10  For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
 
The Assemblies of God  Pentecostal supporters, members are noted for their opposition to the Florida Lakeland revival, and to the Latter day movement.. but why?
 
and like many other Pentecostals, Alliance, Baptist, Evangelcial Churches they falsey do not include helping poor people in their own churches as an essential Christian  doctrine now too? why?
 
(Rom 15:26 KJV)  For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
 
(2 Cor 9:9 KJV)  (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
 
(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
 
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
 
(James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
 
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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

 

 

 

 

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