Missing the point?

May 20, 2008

The Faith

 
Jude 1:3 Beloved, my whole concern was to write to you in regard to our common salvation. [But] I found it necessary {and} was impelled to write you and urgently appeal to {and} exhort [you] to contend for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints [the faith which is that sum of Christian belief which was delivered verbally to the holy people of God].

 (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 
I must say that I am really disappointed these days with even two things,  the amplified Bible’s too often distortions of basic Christian Doctrines, and even with some professing Christian denominations,  Churches distortions of the basic Christian doctrines even in  regard to  what the basic ministry of the church now should be today as well.. Beyond a shadow of the doubt the church’s ministry was to the local poor Christians and those abroad too, and that was why the office of the deacon was specifically created, the deacon in the New testament was not a money collector, or the church finance officer, but a social worker who distributed money to the poor people mainly,  unlike too often today as well in the churches.. Now looking at what the Bible says,,
 
Eph 4:11 And His gifts were [varied; He Himself appointed and gave, continues still today to give,  gifted, equiped men to us] some to be apostles (special messengers), some prophets (inspired preachers and expounders), some evangelists (preachers of the Gospel, traveling missionaries), some pastors (shepherds of His flock) and teachers.  12 His intention was the perfecting {and} the full equipping of the saints (His consecrated people), [that they should do] the work of ministering toward building up ( physically and spiritually now too) Christ’s body (the church), 13 [That it might develop] until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the [full and accurate] knowledge of the Son of God, that [we might arrive] at really mature manhood (the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard height of Christ’s own perfection), the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ {and} the completeness found in Him. ( meaning clearly the same works Jesus did we are also to do now too)
 
1 Pet 5:1 I WARN {and} counsel the elders among you (the pastors and spiritual guides of the church) as a fellow elder and as an eyewitness [called to testify] of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a sharer in the glory (the honor and splendor) that is to be revealed (disclosed, unfolded):
 
I want to look at the Amplified Bible’s limitation of the definition of the office of Apostles, Prophets, evangelist, pastors, teachers
-The Apostle is defined as a messenger, and yet the same description is almost given to the Evangelist too, the difference is the word special is added to the Apostle..  
-Similarly prophets and teachers seem to hold similar offices according to the amplified Bible
and if these equipped, gifted, church positions are so similar with would be clearly redundant to have different names for the same offices, God has a reasons to call these offices different cause these persons do, did different things generally too…
-Pastors seem to be rightfully defined as shepherds of the flock… and note this the plural term of shepherds us used, and they rightfully are not defined as an ruling elder, an  administrator too.
-Even the office of elders is mis-defined, and is limited  to being  pastors, and spiritual guides, when we all can know that in the new testament, the apostles, and prophets, were also called elders now.,.. not just  the pastors or evangelists, teachers..
 

– All these gifted persons,  Apostles, Prophets, evangelist, pastors, teachers, now also are existing now these days for the Greek term God gave means actual he continues to give to the church, the tense is continual present and they were mutually, willingly submissive one to another in the church.. unlike too often rather today.

 
An Apostle, plural gift too,  to be fair the definition of a New testament  Apostle it today  does not totally match the actual functions that the Apostles performed in the New Testament, for they now also  were also not just preachers, evangelists, expounders, shepherds, administrators, ruling elders,  as the situation required them to be but do note this  clearly  healing was a part of the ministry, for firstly  they also manifested now all the gifts of the Holy spirit. It seems the church these days falsely  has lost it’s essential  ministry of compassion to the sick and the poor so that is what they seem to discredit the existence of the Apostles, healers too..
 
Similarly the New testament Evangelists, plural term too, they  were also healers, not just preachers, travelling missionaries. Read the Bible for yourself and see this fact, truth.
 
Ezek 34:4 The diseased {and} weak you have not strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the hurt {and} crippled you have not bandaged, those gone astray you have not brought back, the lost you have not sought to find, but with force and hardhearted harshness you have ruled them.
 
 
Matt 4:24 So the report of Him ( Jesus)  spread throughout all Syria, and they brought Him all who were sick, those afflicted with various diseases and torments, those under the power of demons, and epileptics, and paralyzed people, and He healed them.
 
Acts 28:8 And it happened that the father of Publius was sick in bed with recurring attacks of fever and dysentery; and Paul went to see him, and after praying and laying his hands on him, he healed him.
 
And when was the last time you now even saw a Pastor submissive to the other church elders, rather it seems these  day the pastor, often only singularly too,  he wrongfully tries to force the elders to be under their submission alone which is clearly a non New Testament approach too.
 
The other reason we clearly do not see these God equipped persons wrongfully in most churches, is firstly because they now have put the wrong persons in the potions, rather too often unspiritual , unqualified persons in reality and they need to now change this drastically too.
 
And it is not just these days the Baptist, Plymouth, Brethren, Mennonites,  Lutheran, others who have it all wrong but even many Pentecostal churches. I was in the local Pentecostal church, Pentecostal assembly of Canada church too, and they wrongfully firstly did no home visitations at all for a start. Yes they care about compulsory tithing for the support of the pastor, church, it seems… but  how can you be a pastor shepherd and not know the state of the flock, not be with them in their homes. What Kind of shepherd now would leave his flock alone in the field to fend themselves alone against the wolves, lions, bears, etc., while he stayed at home in the house being an administrator, preacher, teacher rather a “Hireling” now only? and he did not look after the sick, poor, and did not pray for them in their homes to be healed like the apostles, elders often did  in the new testament church did That would be ridiculous too you would rightfully say too. Sure to say a false face they offer to pray for the sick in the church, and when the sick person was not healed, they had falsely blamed the sick person as being the guilty culprit for  the sickness, and the reasons now, next them  not being cured, due to their own sinfulness.. what hypocrites the church elders here are too for firstly while we are all sinners, Jesus and the apostle healed any sinner now as well. Which clearly they still cannot do and wrongfully do not determine why they cannot do. In their behavior they are not any better than managers of a secular corporations, and how they treat their employees.. and is nothing Christian  here rather.
 
God still only expects all of the church elders now too   to be willing to serve the poor, the sick and needy, and he by his holy spirit will equip the church elders into that role even today. But if you are unwilling, have the role as a self servigpsotion it is no wonder God rightfully does not equip them too often theses days too.
 
I was really still surprised to note how many pastors are often fired from their jobs, for God still does fire bad pastors even these days, rightfully too.
 
Prov 27:23 Be diligent to know the state of your flocks, and look well to your herds;  24 For riches are not forever; does a crown endure to all generations? { the false pursuit especially for pastors, elders of riches, that can disappear in a moment, is vanity firstly too, and you can be your employment terminated, you dismissed from your job for doing so too now}  25 When the hay is gone, the tender grass shows itself, and herbs of the mountain are gathered in, 26 The lambs will be for your clothing, and the goats [will furnish you] the price of a field. 27 And there will be goats’ milk enough for your food, for the food of your household, and for the maintenance of your maids.
 
Ezek 14:7 For anyone of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn in Israel who separates himself from Me, taking his idols into his heart and putting the stumbling block of his iniquity {and} guilt before his face, and [yet] comes to the prophet to inquire for himself of Me, I the Lord will answer him Myself!
 
Ezek 20:38 And I will purge out {and} separate from among you the rebels and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they temporarily dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you shall know, understand, {and} realize that I am the Lord.
 
Jer 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew [and] approved of you [as My chosen, equipped  instrument], and before you were born I separated {and} set you apart, consecrating you; [and] I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.
 

Jer 15:19 Therefore thus says the Lord  If you return [and give up this mistaken tone of distrust and despair], then I will give you again a settled place of quiet {and} safety, and you will be My minister; and if you separate the precious from the vile [also  cleansing your own heart from unworthy and unwarranted suspicions concerning God’s truth], you shall be My mouthpiece. [But do not yield to them.] Let them return to you–not you to [the people]. 

 

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