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November 28, 2009

Fret not

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 Psalm 37:1  A Psalm of David. Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2  For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3  Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4  Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5  Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6  And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
7  Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8  Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9  For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10  For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11  But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12  The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13  The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
14  The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15  Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16  A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
17  For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
18  The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
19  They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20  But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
21  The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous showeth mercy, and giveth.
22  For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
23  The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
24  Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
25  I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
26  He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
27  Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28  For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29  The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
30  The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
31  The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32  The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33  The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
34  Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
35  I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36  Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
37  Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.
38  But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
39  But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
40  And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.

(Psa 37:29 KJV)  The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
 
Negative consequences and Positive rewards are part of God’s personal management of others now too, Believe it or not! Mind you most of us, cause the devil readily whispers in our ears that this is a lie, tend to find out this truth is true  mostly the hard way, sadly. That includes the length of our life on earth. a topic often covered in the Bible now too,  for now I too have seem many really wicked, unrepentant  persons die an early, sudden, unexpected death. And I know that God provides extra life, healing to his faithful children as well.
 
(Gen 13:  KJV)  14  And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: 15  For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. 16  And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. 17  Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.
 
(Deu 30:20 KJV)  That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
 
(Job 12:  KJV)  9  Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this? 10  In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind. 11  Doth not the ear try words? and the mouth taste his meat? 12  With the ancient is wisdom; and in length of days understanding. 13  With him is wisdom and strength, he hath counsel and understanding. 14  Behold, he breaketh down, and it cannot be built again: he shutteth up a man, and there can be no opening. 15  Behold, he withholdeth the waters, and they dry up: also he sendeth them out, and they overturn the earth. 16  With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his. 17  He leadeth counsellors away spoiled, and maketh the judges fools. 18  He looseth the bond of kings, and girdeth their loins with a girdle. 19  He leadeth princes away spoiled, and overthroweth the mighty. 20  He removeth away the speech of the trusty, and taketh away the understanding of the aged. 21  He poureth contempt upon princes, and weakeneth the strength of the mighty.  22  He discovereth deep things out of darkness, and bringeth out to light the shadow of death. 23  He increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them: he enlargeth the nations, and straiteneth them again. 24  He taketh away the heart of the chief of the people of the earth, and causeth them to wander in a wilderness where there is no way. 25  They grope in the dark without light, and he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.
 
(Psa 21:  KJV)  :1  To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The king shall joy in thy strength, O LORD; and in thy salvation how greatly shall he rejoice! 2  Thou hast given him his heart’s desire, and hast not withholden the request of his lips. Selah. 3  For thou preventest him with the blessings of goodness: thou settest a crown of pure gold on his head. 4  He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever. 5  His glory is great in thy salvation: honour and majesty hast thou laid upon him. 6  For thou hast made him most blessed for ever: thou hast made him exceeding glad with thy countenance. 7  For the king trusteth in the LORD, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved. 8  Thine hand shall find out all thine enemies: thy right hand shall find out those that hate thee. 9  Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. 10  Their fruit shalt thou destroy from the earth, and their seed from among the children of men. 11  For they intended evil against thee: they imagined a mischievous device, which they are not able to perform. 12  Therefore shalt thou make them turn their back, when thou shalt make ready thine arrows upon thy strings against the face of them. 13  Be thou exalted, LORD, in thine own strength: so will we sing and praise thy power.
 
(Prov 3:  KJV)  1  My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: 2 For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.
 
(Prov 3:  KJV) 13  Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. 14  For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. 15  She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. 16  Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. 17  Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. 18  She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her. 19  The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens. 20  By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew. 21  My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion: 22  So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck. 23  Then shalt thou walk in thy way safely, and thy foot shall not stumble. 24  When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea, thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.
 
 
And who does not want to live a long life, but do stupid things and you will die sooner for sure.. 
 
(Ezra 7:23 KJV)  Whatsoever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be diligently done for the house of the God of heaven: for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons?
 
or
(Deu 28:31 KJV)  Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
 
or
(Deu 28:7 KJV)  The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
 
(2 Sam 7:23 KJV)  And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods?
 
(Psa 52:9 KJV)  I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints.
 
(Psa 68:7 KJV)  O God, when thou wentest forth before thy people, when thou didst march through the wilderness; Selah:
 
(Psa 89:14 KJV)  Justice and judgment are the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face.
 
(Dan 10:12 KJV)  Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
 
(Rev 3:9 KJV)  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 

It’s your choice now too..

  
(Eccl 7:17 KJV)  Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?
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September 18, 2009

Real Christianity

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: Real Christianity — thenonconformer @ 5:11 am

 gospel

Basic Christianity includes the whole Gospel and  these Absolute truths:

  • Man is not the center of the Universe, God alone is.
  • Man’s primary duty on earth is to worship, praise, and serve God
  • The Bible is Absolutely true even if many may interpret it still their own way
  • The Old Testament basically only applied to the Jews, while the New Testament – New Covenant  applies to all Believers, Christians
  • Jesus now also pre-existed as God before the foundation of the world
  • The Triune God is an Absolute reality even before the beginning of time 
  • Jesus was, is Absolutely God. Fully God and Fully Man.
  • Sin is real, all mankind has sinned and needs their personal, conditional Jesus salvation, includes both Jews and gentile as well
  • Jesus paid the penalty for all our past, present  sins, he died to on the cross to free us from all sin and to  give you  now an eternal life
  • God will Absolutely judge all personal wickedness upon one’s death
  •  It is appointed for all mankind to die once and after that judgment
  • God Absolutely loves us but he still cannot overlook our unrepentant sins
  • Each man, women, child is personally accountable, responsible alone before God
  • We are saved, healed, delivered,  set free, by God’s  mercy and grace alone, basically by no merit or spirituality of our own
  • The devil and evil sprits are also now still real as well,  whom we must continually resist by  faith
  • Hell is real and Absolutely will befall those who do not have the faith and a confession of Christ or any of those who reject it
  • God is Absolutely sovereign, in full control in of all things on earth now too, even in spite of the fact the devil may claim otherwise
  • Jesus’ physical body was raised from the grave, and next so will ours. We will have our body in Heaven.
  • God equips us, empowers us by the Holy Spirit to be able to fully life the godly Christian life
  • God still speaks to all of his own even by a clear distinct voice
  • The same Jesus yesterday, today and forever also had a ministry of healing, and deliverance and healed all that were sick or in bondage by the devil
  • God’s ministry for us personally includes helping the poor and needy persons, even in our local churches
  • Physical prosperity is not God’s essential, basic will for us all now too
  • God continues to  assign  today Elders: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors- teachers, miracles workers -healing  evangelists
  • The gift of tongues are part of God’s ongoing gift to the whole body of Christ even today
  • Jesus Christ is absolutely going to return next to the Earth one day to take his own to Heaven
  • Israel’s right, promise to their promised land is an Old Testament, not a New Testament promise.
  • Tithing also is an Old Testament demand , not a New Testament one.
  • God is creating next a new Heaven and a new Earth
  • The just still shall live continually by faith in God, not rather in self or man, to meet all of his or her needs.

do see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-essential-political-relgious-christian-truths/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/  

 
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August 29, 2009

The most important decision, question that you will make

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: Christ Jesus, Lord Jesus Christ — thenonconformer @ 11:35 pm
 
The most important decision, question that you will make in your whole life is who is Jesus Christ in fact?  the central, and too often even most misunderstood Person of human history. Who is Jesus Christ? The Bible is about Jesus. He is pictured or prophesied about in each of the 66 books as well as in countless types in the lives of different characters in the Bible.  The Whole Bible is About Jesus! Jesus is in every book of the Bible.
 
Jesus was, is still is one of the most influential person  that has walked the earth, He  lived during the height of the Roman Empire, at the beginning of our common era. Jesus began his travels by healing and feeding the populace, giving evidence of his  wondrous miracles, teaching about this Heavenly  kingdom of the truth, light, faith and love, a judgment era, and the aggregating of his chosen, the whole  Church of Jesus Christ. During the infancy of the Roman Empire and the end of the Republic, Tiberius was the Emperor during the three in and a half-year ministry of Jesus. The glorious temple of Herod the Great stood atop the mount in Jerusalem. The religion of Judaism then had flourished under the Scribes and Pharisees under Roman supervision. All the Jews and Romans of this era died,  but Jesus lived on. Why? 
 
Firstly Jesus was not another  man child  born into this world who became God next. Jesus was God himself come to earth in the flesh. Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. 
 
Jesus “the anointed one”  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed-continued/
Born: c. 5 B.C.
Birthplace: Bethlehem, Judea
Died: c. 30 A.D. (crucifixion)
Resurrected: c. 0 A.D. (Jerusalem )
 
Acts 10:38 KJV How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.   1 John 3:8  For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.   Hebrews 2:14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15  And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.  Matthew 11:28-30   Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.  Luke 4:18-19 The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD. (Jer 29:19 KJV)  Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the LORD, which I sent unto them by my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them; but ye would not hear, saith the LORD.
 
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:12 I have declared and saved, I have proclaimed, And there was no foreign god among you; Therefore you are My witnesses,” Says the LORD, “that I am God.”

 
The anointing that the devil and his false followers do still wrongfully hate and oppose, lie about is this..  (Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
 
 
Who did Jesus claim to be as per the Bible?
 
“When Moses met God in the wilderness and asked His name, God replied ‘I AM THAT I AM…This you shall to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’ So the God of Israel revealed Himself as ‘I AM’. Jesus claimed this name for himself showing He was Israel’s God and Messiah, and in doing so, risked being stoned for blasphemy.

John 8:56-58 ‘Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” “You are not yet fifty years old,” the Jews said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!” “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM!” At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself.
John 8:12 “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

John 8:23-24 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins.”

John 11:25-27 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” “Yes, Lord,” she told him, “I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world.”

John 14:6-7 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.

John 10:24-33 The Jews gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father’s name speak for me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

There are so many more passages like these, but even limiting ourselves to the above quotes, any honest reader can see exactly what Jesus was claiming about himself. Like C.S Lewis wrote in the quote above, He was claiming to be the promised Messiah, God in the flesh. And He also claimed to be the only way of salvation. At this point, you may be saying ‘I can see that He claimed to be God, but how do we know that the Bible record of His claims are accurate?’ One of the most compelling proofs that God gives us is in the fulfillment of prophecy. No other religious books such as the Koran contain detailed prophecies. The God of the Bible declares:

Isaiah 46:9-10 ‘I am God, and there is no other. I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand and I will do all that I please.’
 
 
Jesus Claimed To Fulfill The Old Testament Prophecies

Luke 24:44-47 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you-that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms must be fulfilled.” Then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures, and he said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Messiah is to suffer and to rise from the dead on the third day, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins is to be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
John 5:45-46 But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

Mark 14:61-63 Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. “You have heard the blasphemy. (Ed Note: the Son of Man sitting at the right hand and coming on the clouds was a key specific prophecy about the Messiah from the Old Testament book of Daniel.)

So Jesus claimed to be the Messiah that had been prophesied to come in numerous passages in the Old Testament. What I would like to concentrate on now, is one chapter in the Old Testament that specifically tells us about the life and even death of the Messiah. This chapter is Isaiah 53. The entire scroll of the prophet Isaiah was found within the dead sea scrolls and if has been verified to be completely accurate with the version in our Bibles today. So you be the judge, for with the discovery we know for a fact that the following chapter was written hundreds of years before Jesus was even born. 

 
Isaiah 53 – The Life And Death Of Messiah Prophesied

The following chapter was written around 700BC. From the earliest days Isaiah 53 was interpreted by the Jews as applying to the Messiah. However, with it’s clear fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ, many Jewish synagogues have carefully avoided reading this passage! But in this most amazing passage, God has given us not only the details of the life and death of the Messiah, but also the reasons and results from His death! Here are the 12 verses of Isaiah chapter 53 (in blue), followed by my own comments (in black italic).
1. Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
Indicates that few would believe in Jesus. (John 6:66, 12:37-38)

2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
Jesus had humble and poor beginnings, not coming as a royal King, but as a commoner. (Luke 2:7)

3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Jesus was despised, rejected, and suffered at the hands of His own people! (Mathew 27:21-23)

4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
Even though Jesus would heal many, and take the sorrows for others, yet the Jewish people would consider Him cursed by God for it is written in Deuteronomy 21:23 ‘Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree’ (Luke 19:41-42)

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
Though Jesus was cursed, it was for a reason! He was crushed for our sins so that we could be healed and have peace with God! Note also that this prophecy says that the Messiah would be ‘pierced’. The Jewish method of execution is stoning, though God spoke through the prophet Isaiah and said He would be ‘pierced’ because He knew that Jesus would be crucified, having His hands and feet nailed (pierced) to the cross! 

6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
It would be God the Father’s will that all sin would be laid upon Jesus! (Gal 1:4) 

7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
This verse shows how Jesus, the sacrificial lamb, would be silent before His accusers. This happened as recorded in Mathew 27:12.

8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
Jesus was judged and died without having any physical descendants. (Mathew 27:35)

9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
Jesus died alongside common criminals but was given a rich man’s tomb in which He was buried! (Mathew 27:57) 

10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
Even though verse 8 says that Jesus was cut off and had no descendants (physically) yet this verse says that after being made a guilt offering (crucified), Jesus would ’see his offspring and prolong his days’! Amazing prophecy showing that even though Jesus would be killed, He would rise from the dead, live again and that spiritually He would have many offspring! (Mark 16:16)

11 After the suffering of his soul, He will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
God the Father saw the suffering of Jesus and was fully satisfied. Sin demanded a sacrificial death and in doing so, Jesus opened the way so that through knowledge of what happened on the cross, humankind could again be justified! (seen as perfect and spotless in God’s sight.) (Romans 5:8-9, 2 Cor 5:21)

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.  
Jesus is now exalted by the Father, for He bore our sins, dying on a cross, and even when He was dying He interceded for those who crucified Him saying ‘Father forgive them for they know not what they do!’ Amazing! (Luke 23:32-34)

With all this in mind, can there actually be any doubt as to who Jesus was? We have seen that He didn’t just claim to be a teacher, or a spiritual leader. He claimed to be the one and only Messiah, God in the flesh! His birth, life, and death all accurately and specifically fulfills prophecies recorded hundreds of years earlier. So God has not left us without a means of knowing who the Messiah is! But you have to decide – for Jesus is either a lunatic, a great liar, or He is the Lord to whom we all have to bow. With all this in mind, lets quickly see what the Bible says about salvation and coming into a relationship with Jesus Christ – the King of Kings!
 
 
What The Bible Says About Salvation

1. That salvation is found in Jesus and Him alone. We have already stated His claim that no one can come to the Father except through Him. The Bible constantly confirms this by saying:

Acts 4:12 ‘And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved.’
1 John 5:11-12 ‘And the witness is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.’

2. That salvation cannot come by performing good works but through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for your behalf.

Eph 2:8 ‘For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;  not as a result of works, that no one should boast.’
Romans 3:20 ‘…by the works of the Law no one will be justified in His sight.’

3. God now offers salvation as a gift to those who will believe.

Romans 3:21-24 ‘But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known… This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified as a gift by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Romans 6:23 ‘For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.’

4. You need to act to receive the gift of salvation.

John 1:11-12 ‘He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.’
Acts 2:38 ‘Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.’”

http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/salvation/salvation.htm  http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/jesus66books.htm

 
see also  http://www.bible.com/jesus_popup.php?id=18 http://www.bible.com/jesus_popup.php?id=19 
 
The God head Trinity
 
You can also now compare the God head Trinity to a book. For example, a book has length, width, and thickness. The length is not the book’s width, the width is not the book’s thickness. These three dimensions can be described separately, yet they are connected together. If you remove one dimension, you are no longer describing a book. In the same way, the Godhead has three separate members that are connected together, and if you try to remove one you no longer have the Godhead. The Trinity is also like water that can exists as liquid, solid- ice, gas-vapor.
 
The Bible on the Trinity
Most people are ignorant of the Bible itself, and they listen to liars, persons with hidden agendas too often..
 
Bible Verses on the Trinity for  God is “three in one”
 
Verses saying Jesus is God:

Heb. 1:8 God the Father called the Son “God.”

Isa. 9:6 The “child” is called the “Mighty God.”

Mt. 1:23,   Is. 7:14 Jesus is called Immanuel, which means “God with us.”

John. 1:1 Jesus (the “Word”) is called “God.”

1 Tim. 3:16 Paul said Jesus was God “manifested in the flesh.”

Col. 2:8.9 Paul said Jesus was the “fullness of the Godhead bodily.

John. 20:28 Thomas said to Jesus, “.my God.”

Titus 2:13 Paul called Jesus “the great God.”

Phil. 2:5,6 Paul said Jesus didn’t feel it was wrong to be considered “equal with God.”

John 5:18 The Jews wanted to kill Jesus because He was “making Himself equal with God.”

John 10:30 Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.”

Gen. 1:1; Col. 1:16 The Bible said God created all things and that Jesus created all things.

Mic. 5:2 The messiah (Jesus) had always been in existence.

Isa. 44:6; Rev. 1:2,8, 11,13 God claimed to be the “First and the Last.” So did Jesus. God clearly states that He is the only savior. The Bible also says Jesus is our savior.

Other persons  had viewed Jesus as God   

1 Timothy 3:16    -Paul Said Jesus was God manifested in the flesh.  “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the nations, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
John 20:28    -Thomas called Jesus God.    “And Thomas answered, and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”
Colosians 2:8,9    -Paul said Jesus was the fullness of the Godhead bodily. “.Christ. For in him dwelleth all of the fullness of the Godhead bodily.”
 
Titus 2:13    -Paul said Jesus was God.   “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our savior, Jesus Christ.”
Luke 8:39    -After Jesus healed a demon possessed man, Jesus said:    “Return to thine house, and show what great things God hath done unto thee. And he went on his way and published throughout the whole city what great things Jesus had done unto him.”

Rom. 14:10b -12    -Paul uses the words Jesus and God interchangeably.  “For we shall all stand before the judgment Seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So, then, “every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”

Luke 8:39    -After Jesus healed a demon possessed man, Jesus said:    “Return to thine house, and show what great things God hath done unto thee. And he went on his way and published throughout the whole city what great things Jesus had done unto him.”

Phil. 2:5b, 6    -Paul said Jesus was God.  “. Jesus Christ, who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”

The people around Jesus understood Jesus was claiming to be God
John 10:33   -The Jews felt Jesus was claiming to be God.  “The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy: and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.”

John 5:18   -The Jews felt Jesus was making himself equal with God.
“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”

Jesus claimed to be God
John 10:30   – Jesus said He was part of God.  He said,  “I and my Father are one.” Exodus 3:14   -God identifies Himself to Moses by calling himself “I AM.” Twice Jesus refers to Himself as the “I AM.” Those around him knew exactly what he was saying and they were greatly offended.
“Jesus said unto them, Verily verily, I say you, before Abraham was, I am. Then they took up stones to cast at him .”  (John 8:58, 59a)
“Whom seek ye? They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them I am he. As soon as he said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.”  (John 18:4b, 5, 6)
[Note: In the Bible, the word "he" is in italic. Whenever a word was not in the original Greek or Hebrew, but was put in for clarity, the King James translators put the word in italic. This was done so there would be no misunderstanding about what was and was not part of the original text]
Revelation 1:8 -18   -Jesus said, he is the Almighty Lord. The following is a vision John had of Jesus. Verses 2, 13, 17,18 identify Jesus as the:
(v 2) “. testimony of Jesus Christ .”
 (v 8) “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
 (v 11) “Saying I am alpha and Omega, the first and the last.”
(v 13) “And in the midst of the seven lamp stands, one like the Son of man .”
(v 17b. 18a) “Fear not; I am the first and the last; I am he that liveth and was dead.”
Isaiah 44:6   -In Rev 1:11, Jesus says He is the first and the last.  Isa. 44:6 shows that the one who is “first and the last is actually God.  “Thus saith the Lord, the King of Israel, and his redeemer, the Lord of host: I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is not God.”    
The Bible says Jesus is God
Hebrews 1:8   -God the Father said Jesus was God.
“Unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.”
Isaiah 9:6   -Jesus (the Messiah) is called the Mighty God.    “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.”

Matthew 1:23   -Jesus is called Immanuel, which means “God with us.”
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which, being interpreted, is God with us.”  Micah 5:2  

-Jesus (the Messiah) is everlasting.    “But thou, Bethlehem, Ephrathah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall come forth unto me that is to be the ruler in Israel, whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Zechariah 12:10  

 
 -God uses the first person (“me”) and the third person (“him”) to describe Himself as the one who will be pierced.
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplications; and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for HIM, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 
John 1:1    -Jesus (the “Word”) is God  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
Revelation 22:6, 16   -The book of Revelation says that Jesus and God are the same.
(v6) “And he said unto me, These words are faithful and true; and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to show unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.”
(v 16) “I, Jesus, have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches .”
Every knee will bow to both God and Jesus.  Here are verses talking about every knee bowing to God.
“Look unto me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God and there is none else. . that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear”  (Isaiah 45:22,23b)
“. stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me and every tongue shall confess to God.”  (Romans 14:10b, 11)
“That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow . and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”  (Philippians 2:10a,11a)
John 5:23    -We have to honor Jesus that same way as God the Father.    “That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father who hath sent him.”
Both God and Jesus are called our “Savior.”   Here are verses calling God our savior. “. I am He, before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord and besides me there is no savior.”  (Isaiah 43:10b, 11)
“. And there is no God else beside me, a just God and Savior; there is none beside me.”  (Isaiah 45:21b)
Here are verses calling Jesus our savior.
Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”  (Acts 4:12)
“But hath in due time manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God, our Savior;”   (Titus 1:3)
“Not purloining, but showing all good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God, our Savior, in all things.”  (Titus 2:10)
“But after the kindness and love of God, our Savior, toward man appeared.”  (Titus 3:4)
“To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God, the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ, our Savior.”  (Titus 1:4)
“Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ, our Savior,”  (Titus 3:6)
Both God and Jesus created all things.  Here are verses that say God created all things
“Ah, Lord God! Behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by Thy great power and outstretched arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee: . the Great, the Mighty God, the Lord of hosts, is his name,”  l (Jeremiah 32:17, 18b)
Have we not all one father? Hath not one God created us?”  (Malachi 2:10b)
“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he who formed thee from the womb: I am the Lord who maketh all things; who stretcheth forth the heavens alone; who spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.”  (Isaiah 44:24)
“And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the Heavens are the worlds of thine hand.”  (Hebrews 1:10)
Here are verses that say Jesus created all things
“. Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come. .Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; for thou has created all things, and for thy pleasure they were created.”  (Revelation 4:8b, 11)
“All things were made by him (Jesus), and without him was not anything made that was made.”  (John 1:3)
 
“Who is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; For by him all things were created, that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers – all things were created by him and for him. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”  (Col. 1:15, 16)
“Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”  (Hebrews 1:2)
Both God and Jesus raised Jesus from the dead.  Here are verses that say God raised Jesus from the dead.
“And to wait for His Son from Heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivered us from the wrath to come.”  (1 Thes. 1:10)
“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also give life to your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”  (Romans 8:11)
Here are verses that say Jesus raised Himself from the dead.
” Jesus answered, and said unto them Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”  (John 2:19) 
“Therefore doeth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”  (John 10:17, 18a)
   
Verses saying the Father is God:

John. 8:41 “The only Father we have is God Himself.”

Eph. 4:6 ” . one God and Father of all .”  

Verses saying the Holy Spirit is God:
Acts 5:3,4 “. you have lied to the Holy Spirit . you have not lied to men, but to God.”

Acts 28:25,26 Referring to Isaiah 6:9,10,  Peter said the “Holy Spirit” spoke to the prophet Isaiah.  In the book of Isaiah, it says the “Lord” spoke to the prophet Isaiah.

1 Cor. 3:16 “Don’t you know you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you?”
  
Verses saying there is only one God:
Mk. 12:32 “You are right in saying God is one and there is no other but him.”

Mk. 12:29 “The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”

1 Tim. 2:5 “For there is one God .”

1 Cor. 8:4 ” . and there is no God but one.”

Gal. 3:20 ” . but God is one.”

James 2:19 “You believe there is one God. Good! .”

Ps. 86:10 ” . you alone are God.”

Deut. 6:4,5 “The Lord our God, the Lord is one .”

Isa. 44:8 “Is there another God besides me?”

Isa. 45:21 “There is no God apart from me . there is none but me.”

Isa. 45:22″ For I am God and there is no other.”

Isa. 46:9 “I am God, and there is no other”

Isa. 45:5 “I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.”

Isaiah 45:18 “I am the Lord, and there is no other.”

Mal. 2:10″ Did not one God create us?”

http://www.biblehelp.org/  

 
To be a Christian is based on the greek word anointed, Christos, a person we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirt of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/
 
Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too. and the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba.. The anointing is sacred, the anointing is the Holy Spirit, and now all believers in Christ have the anointing of the Holy Spirit. The same anointing of Holy Ghost power that gave Jesus the power to overcome Satan’s power, temptation!! The Holy Ghost power and anointing can be yours, today!! This is the source of power to overcome Satan everyday of your life if you continue to follow after God, to obey and do his will daily. If you rebel from God do not expect this anointing to be of help to you. You need to willfully continue to walk humbly in the light, in Jesus himself still too. And if you let God do it, he will empower, equip you to do his will, equip you uniquely for service to him like he has done to many others. When Jesus was being tried in Pilate’s court, Peter denied knowing Jesus three times. He didn’t have enough courage to even say that he knew Jesus. let alone be His witness, but after the Holy Ghost fell on the 120 at Pentecost. What a difference!! The first sermon Peter preached, 3000 were converted. You can have this kind of power now in your life. Yes it’s free for the asking humbly to all who already do believe and are baptized in Jesus as both their Savior and Lord. You are free to live the empowered life if you daily choose to do so, or you can next even daily choose to walk merely in your own sinful thing, in the flesh.Perhaps you still do feel you are not worthy to receive this power. Possibly some have told you that this power is not for today. Or you feel overcome by the pressures of life and don’t know how to ask for the power of the Holy Ghost to take over your life. Right now that all you need to do is simply to humbly ask God even again. The Bible says, “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning” (James 1:17). It is His desire that you receive everything He has for you! Tthe Bible declares it to be so! ” And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the hand-maids in those days will I pour out my spirit” (Joel 2:28-29). It’s still for as many who call upon the name of the Lord!

(Mat 7:7 KJV) Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

(Luke 11:10 KJV) For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

(Gal 5:22 KJV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

(Gal 5:25 KJV) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Pass it on. The Lord wants to infuse you with an anointing, by the Holy Spirit, which will propel you through every line of Satan’s defense. This is how you can overcome every situation as you receive “power from on high!” Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself was full of this power as He withstood the onslaught of the devil while fasting in the wilderness. The Bible records that John the Baptist baptized Jesus, the Lord of Glory, in the river Jordan prior to Him praying and fasting 40 days and 40 nights. At the end of this fast Satan came to Him and tempted Him in His spirit, soul and body to sin against God. But Jesus resisted Satan’s offense with the statement, “It is written!” After this, Luke 4: 14 states, And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. If Jesus, walking as a man, needed the power of the Holy Spirit to stand against the assault of the devil, I ask you, “How much more do we need the power of the Holy Spirit?” There’s a Holy Spirit revival coming, and it’s can also be coming even through your words, through your hands and through your life!

Would you like to have God’s Holy Ghost Power in your life? If so please pray this prayer humbly. “Dear Heavenly Father. As per your promises in your word, the Bible do next baptize me with your Holy sprit, power. I accept the promise of Acts 2: 38 & 39 and the anointing power of the Holy Ghost. I ask to have the power that Apostles had received even in my life. I also do want the power to overcome Satan everyday, in all areas of life! Jesus you are my lord so by your Holy Spirit, please fill me now and take full control of my life, my body and even my tongue. Let my tongue now also give praises to God the Father and His Holy Son, Jesus in a Heavenly language. I put myself, my all under your full control. Amen!”

We should never take for granted, that we are filled with Gods Holy Spirit. Each and every day, would it not also be a good idea to ask the Lord, ” Lord please fill me a fresh with your Holy Spirit, anoint my head again a fresh with the Holy Spirit, fill my cup and let it over flow with the peace, power and joy in the Holy Spirit “. Thank you Jesus.  May the Lord anoint you head with oil, may your cup over flow.”   http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/ 

and the issue is not just how to be filled with the Holy Spirit but how to stay filled with the Holy Spirit
  
Get baptized in the Holy Spirit as the Lord has commanded. Jesus was as human as we are, and it was only after he was water-baptized by John the Baptist, and the Holy Spirit entered him from Heaven, and God said “This is my son in whom I am well pleased” that Jesus’ ministry began. Before that, He wasn’t yet enabled to do great miracles.  So if Jesus couldn’t do it before He was baptized in the Spirit, how can you or I? No amount of waving a crucifix or using a Bible to block devils can stop the work of Satan. Only being FILLED with the Spirit, when the demons can see the Spirit of God living in you and they panic, and only by casting them out in the mighty name of Jesus, can you go forth and do what Jesus has commanded. http://firefromheaven.blogspot.com/2005/07/church-praying-in-tongues.html

Come, Lord Jesus, and fill these people full of the Holy Spirit.  In 1 Corinthians 12 Paul lists out these gifts. Any Spirit-filled Christian can eventually manifest or release any of His gifts as the Holy Spirit directs him  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit-continued/

As per the other real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word , Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit.. and the answer is yes. all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/as-to-who-is-jesus-christ/

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July 17, 2009

Life’s Basics

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: Alcohol, Bible. Christian, Divorce, drugs, fantasy, God, Holy Spirit, Jesus, movies, pleasure, pornography, romance, sex, tv — thenonconformer @ 11:29 pm

Truths your mother or father should have told you

 Why are so many people still obsessed with  fantasy, romance, divorce,  drugs, alcohol, even TV, movies, sex, pleasure, pornography.. for most of them personally it still is an initial lazy,  false escapism approach from the too often real negative aspects of life that we firstly all tend to have, particularly due to our own unrepentant sins and due also to  Satan’s buffeting, harassment of us all.. the grass may appear greener in the neighbors yard cause you do not know what hardships they are facing now, the supposedly rich persons included.

 

While God for his faithful few give them the grace to endure hardships and even to overcome them, we are all nevertheless bound to have trails and tribulations, hardships, all of us..  Instead of personally first learning how to use the Bible to oppose Satan, obtain peace in their own life, too many persons turn to the flesh people trutn to a false escapism..

 

The problem also  with the common graphic misrepresentation of the pleasure of sex but the reality is that even the Gays, lesbians, adulterers tend to have even more negative consequences, oppressions in their life to force them into deeper bondage with Satan.. Jesus sets us free from all that.

(Gal 5:16 KJV)  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

(Gal 5:17 KJV)  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

(Rom 7:5 KJV)  For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

(Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

(Rom 8:1 KJV)  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

(John 16:33 KJV)  These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

(John 12:25 KJV)  He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV)  Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. II Pet. 1:4

 

Since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him. Isa. 64:4

Now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. I Cor. 13:12

Christ . . . shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Phil. 3:20, 21

As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Psa. 17:15

(Rom 13:14 KJV)  But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

(Gal 6:8 KJV)  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

(Jude 1:8 KJV)  Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

(Jude 1:23 KJV)  And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh

I had an unexpected opportunity. and one that I was grateful for as well. that involved me praying with a pastor of my church and an other elder for about 40 persons consecutively who had presented to us their personal needs. God answered every single prayer prayed by us immediately, in about 15 cases God he provided the miraculous healing even, and for the balance he God answered the prayers by specifically telling us why he had not answered the prayers, and generally it was cause of their unrepentant sins in the person’s life that we were praying for. It is still true today that God generally will not hear the prayers of a person with unrepentant sins. It next also took me many years to further understand, especially when we hear of common prayer requests being  submitted such as prayers for money, job, healing, divorce, marriage that on the majority of cases these too often similar, repetitious prayers  God would still not immediately, generally answer these prayers too, and  the main reasons actually was because  that these prayer being prayed by the individuals, or made known as prayer requests to others, were for selfish, personal reasons, and not prayers to help further to minister to others, to glorify God.

(James 4:2 KJV)  Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

He died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. II Cor. 5:15

Hell is real as well.. some people chose to go there on there own free will..

(Mat 25:41 KJV)  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal

(2 Cor 1:4 KJV)  Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

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So are you like almost each one of us who is really is ignorant, need help, are willing to learn, are abused, fed up with bad acts, alone, angry, tired of being deceived,  disappointed even by false leaders,  confused about what Bibles is best to read,  concerned  your  choice of a church,   or facing a divorce, or earthly things such as money, property, marriage, friends.. well you are not alone for many others have had to face the same thing and there is also a right Biblical approach in facing, dealing with these items, issues too now.

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The manifestation of  THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, even tongue speaking  or Salvation evangelism  is not an an acceptable alternative for the spirit of holiness now as well… as too many even Pentecostals falsely believe..

 

 For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

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May 28, 2009

The not so secret SECRET

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While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
 

 

Tithing

 
 ”Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews only).   Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws; but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in the believer’s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament. It is known as the grace of giving.   The gauge or rule of this systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing. All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to God  ( ? )”  The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking Canada.  http://www.paoc.org/ info@paoc.org  
  
The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada, PAOC CLEARLY LIES, IS GUILTY OF MISLEADING, FALSE  STATEMENTS TO ALL CANADIANS TO OBTAIN DONATIONS, 
 
(Lev 27:30 KJV)  And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. 31  And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.  32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
 
(Mal 3:10 KJV)  Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
 
(2 Cor 9:6 -15 KJV)  But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.    And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:    (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.    Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)    Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.   For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;   Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;  And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you. Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
 
While I was able to agree with almost all of the PAOC doctrines, statements of faith, next the glaring biblical distortion of the emphasis on the compulsory tithing was  unacceptable. Here also there was glaring inconsistency in the preaching OF TITHING over the actual practice, specially even related to the partial biblical quotes now too.. where clearly there is a direct reference as tithing being applicable to help the poor persons. which in fact is not being practiced in realty for a start at all even  the definite Biblical requirement that 1/7 of the tithes belongs directly to the local  poor persons.. SO IF YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN TITHING THEN YOU MUST BELIEVE IN HELPING THE LOCAL POOR PEOPLE WITH IT. AND WE CAN ALL SEE THE EVIDENCE IF IT TOO.
 
The New Testament  Epistles are full of discussions about giving for the support  of  preachers, teachers, and also the giving to the poor persons: but no where do now in realty do any of the  Apostles ask for the tithes  directly or indirectly! Will somebody still please show me where in the New Testament we can next find  any of the New testament Believers in Christ believers paying tithes specifically, or any of the Apostles asking for tithes? Well? Where? It does  not exist in fact!
 
In reality the Old Testament Book of Malachi the one most often used a reference to application of tithing in the PAOC CHURCH today firstly was written directly ironically too to the bad priests who were stealing the tithe that all belongs to God firstly. The earth is the Lord’s, and every thing in it, the world, and all who live in it. (Psalm 24:1). The book of  Malachi firstly is about the prophet Malachi  is rebuking the bad priests, the  Levites. The tithe payable by the Levites, and main subject is not the tithes payable by the people was the issue, the unpaid tithe here. Ironic that the tithe collection is still too often being abused too often today as well by the PAOC Church  , pastors.  “The pastors of the PAOC  Church pastors have too often abused  the tithe, stole the TITHE monies, and I had often now turned them into the the authorities myself too , including the PAOC  Calgary Christian centre as I have also detailed on the net to all why too.
 
For decades now too I have known many PAOC Christians who boasted to me of their tithing while they continued to commit immoral, unacceptable acts. Tithing was a part of the Old Testament  law, and not the New Testament Covenant. It is again interesting that those who believe we must enforce  tithe today that they do not follow the entire letter of the law in this matter in their preaching of the  New Testament, new  Covenant for  the law required also several tithes, including tithing to the local poor persons, all which would amount to considerably more than ten percent.
  
Also now according to the same Bible all persons who received any portions of the tithes now too were not allowed to own any property as well.  False Boasting, faith by works  is too often associated with tithing AND WE ARE NOT TO WALK  “Not of works, lest any man should boast.”  Ephesians 5:9  We too often hear Church sermons on the need to give money to the local storehouse, supposedly the local church, under the heading of tithing being even applicable today? Now is it? How come most of the hypocrites, liars who preach on the demands of the laws of tithing today neglect to firstly themselves to practice on all of the other inclusive laws related to tithing as well. Or are they deliberately or undeliberately  ignorant of these other applicable Biblical laws?  Just cause a person tithes, does not mean he is spiritual, more likely he is still even coming tax evasion, cheating, steal, absuing  in my personal witness and experiences even in the PAOC churches now. (Psa 112:9 KJV)  He hath dispersed, he hath given to the poor; his righteousness endureth for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honour.
 
 (Acts 15:14 KJV)  Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15  And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16  After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17  That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18  Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
 
Firstly the promised restoration of the tabernacle of David mentioned in the book of Acts is not the restoration of tithing, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, any land of Israel now too, and it was, is not for sure a nationalistic Israel empire building.. The promised restoration of the tabernacle of David  is solely foremost  by the substitutionary innocent death of Jesus Christ next actually is the experience of the personal “Baptism of the Holy Spirit”, Pentecostalism, and the restoration of the related personal method of the worship of God directly, David danced before the Lord, and thus also  it is not just the formation of CHRIST’S Church.
 
 (John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth..
 
Too many even professing Christian persons are not familiar with the Bible , THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THEY THUS DO HAVE A FALSE UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS CHRIST, Tithing, etc., Most persons do not know the Bible really well, in fact they really have not  studied the Bible still firsthand and sadly most people wrongfully rely mostly,  heavily on what  the others do  tell them even as to the supposed truth in  regard to tithing in  the Bible..  
 
Too often I had  entered a PAOC church for the first time and I was greeted by the pastor and he wanted immediately to know where I was working, what kind of work I and he did not at all ask rather about my poor health which had prevented me from working at that time. Now also I CLEARLY SAW THE GLIMMER IN THE HE PASTOR EYES COUNTING THE POTENTIAL INCOME. HE WRONGFULLY HAD HIS EYES ON MAN TO SUPPLY HIS NEEDS AND NOT GOD.
 
Other Christians, even a church secretary even,  bragged to me that they were paid up in the annual tithe but admitted to me they also had not paid all of the taxes cause they had committed tax evasions, for after all their pastor now had did the same thing. (Luke 20:25 KJV)  And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.
 
THE SUBJECT OF  TITHING OFTEN CAUSES SOME PERSONS GREAT STRESS AND EVEN CHURCH DIVISIONS, FALSE  PERSECUTIONS AS WELL.
 
(1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
 
IT IS NOT YOUR TITHING THAT WILL BLESS YOU FIRSTLY BUT IT IS GOD HIMSELF.. (Prov 10:22 KJV) The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
 
IT IS TRUE, A FACT THAT FOR  many years many people have been looking even for the one Bible verse that would make them rich and famous too. AND TOO MANY  PEOPLE ARE LEAD FALSELY TO BELIEVE THAT TITHING WILL LEAD TO, GUARANTEE  FINANCIAL PROSPERITY. Well prosperity that now happens one day at a time with our walk with Jesus, it is firstly a spiritual one, for we are rich in Him and famous for our great exploits through Him as well not rather solely Money, the love of which is the root of all evil still.. I am also tired of hearing from the persons who wrongfully distort, take one isolated verse about prosperity being wealth, money and they do also wrongfully leave out all of the rest of the Bible verses that speak on giving to the poor and needy, about overall true prosperity and not just more  money now as well.. these type of preachers it seems are  wrongfully mostly selfish and unbalanced persons still, not real loving Christians also.  
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
 
prospering  greatly in the Lord firstly? with personal visible good works too? good works on behalf of others, the poor and needy persons too?
 
(2 Cor 8:1 KJV)  Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; 2  How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality. 3  For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves; 4  Praying us with much entreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 5  And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God. 
 
Ministering to the saints does not mean solely religious empire building, paying of building funds, and the physical maintenance costs. You do not need a church building to practice tithing and ministering to the saints.(Deu 16:17 KJV) Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee. .  
 
IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (1 Corinthians 16:2 KJV)  “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.” Note nothing about a minimum amount in specific tithing obligations was, is mentioned here and why?  (GalATIANS 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
 
God has designed the churches also  should help the poor,  help one another, other churches, and that  can next  also include any other ministries that God will, will lead you to give to now as well.. a real ministry is where someone actually looks after the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock of God, not just in words, but with real visible , good deeds.  
 
 (Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  (Luke 16:9 KJV)  And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.  (Luke 16:10 KJV)  He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
(Luke 16:11 KJV)  If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?  (Luke 16:12 KJV)  And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own?  (Luke 16:13 KJV)  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 
 
Now what does the Bible actually really say about tithing overall?
 
You firstly in love and gratitude give back to God for his love, for his goodness you bring the gift, tithes to God through  yourself  and yes you ensure it is administered   directly to the Christian workers, the poor and needy persons, even  a set portion of the tithe and then you start to also give some more love offerings for the mortgages, the other needs.. Giving is always more than the minimum 10 percent of one’s income, tithe in the old testament for a start.
 
Now it is true that tithing existed and was practiced in the Old Testament  and  a  set portion of these tithes  were also to be given to the local poor persons  too. In fact at least 19 % of these Biblical commanded tithes were to be given  directly to the local poor persons. Too Many Churches today falsely do rob God by asking for just the tithe giving and next also wrongfully use it to pay the mortgage, building expenses.
 
and/or what they do also not use the same  tithes today   to help practically the poor  persons in their own church? even the designated Old  Testament amount of 19 % of the tithe?
 
Are you aware of a PAOC church that gives of the portion of the  collected tithes directly, systematically  to their poor?
 
Furthermore undeniably too the Old Testament Levites, and the poor persons, or anyone who would enjoy  the benefits of the tithes they did not own  or could not own any land, or a house. The Lord God  stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to receive a tithe too.  
 
Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites..
 
(Deu 12:17 KJV)  Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:(Deu 14:23 KJV)  And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
 
(Neh 10:38 KJV)  And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
 
The Biblical reality also now  that only  10 percent of the collected  tithe in the Old testament  every three years went directly to the storehouse?
 
Also, every third year, the Israelite was required to store his tithe in his own town to feed the fatherless, aliens, and widows as required by the Lord. This was the tithe of the poor. (ma’aser ani)(Deuteronomy 14:22-29, 26:12-15) (Amos 4:4-5)
 
The tithe was also paid directly to the storehouse only every 3rd year? and the other two years the thither himself enjoyed the tithes himself by now also personally feasting on it? Did you ever hear your PAOC preacher tell you that and why not? Obviously he wanted your share of the tithe.
 
And why now have any of the today’s  PAOC pastors  not even mentioned ALL OF these  Biblical verses, truths  too in all honesty? rather they like you to believe that   then and not all of the tithes was to be  given to the local church for them wrongfully to do as they want.. which was not so at all AND NOT in the Old or New Testament. Even the Apostles were accountable, transparent  to the church elders in all they did.
 
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 2 5 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
 
Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. 13 Then say to the LORD your God: “I have removed from my house the sacred portion and have given it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, according to all you commanded. I have not turned aside from your commands nor have I forgotten any of them. 14 I have not eaten any of the sacred portion while I was in mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor have I offered any of it to the dead. I have obeyed the LORD my God; I have done everything you commanded me. 15 Look down from heaven, your holy dwelling place, and bless your people Israel and the land you have given us as you promised on oath to our forefathers, a land flowing with milk and honey.”
 
Deuteronomy 12:4-19 (NIV) 4 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way. 5 But you are to seek the place the LORD your God will choose from among all your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To that place you must go; 6 there bring your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks. 7 There, in the presence of the LORD your God, you and your families shall eat and shall rejoice in everything you have put your hand to, because the LORD your God has blessed you. 8 You are not to do as we do here today, everyone as he sees fit, 9 since you have not yet reached the resting place and the inheritance the LORD your God is giving you. 10 But you will cross the Jordan and settle in the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and he will give you rest from all your enemies around you so that you will live in safety. 11 Then to the place the LORD your God will choose as a dwelling for his Name-there you are to bring everything I command you: your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, and all the choice possessions you have vowed to the LORD. 12 And there rejoice before the LORD your God, you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maid servants, and the Levites from your towns, who have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 13 Be careful not to sacrifice your burnt offerings anywhere you please. 14 Offer them only at the place the LORD will choose in one of your tribes, and there observe everything I command you. 15 Nevertheless, you may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the LORD your God gives you. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat it. 16 But you must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water. 17 You must not eat in your own towns the tithe of your grain and new wine and oil, or the firstborn of your herds and flocks, or whatever you have vowed to give, or your freewill offerings or special gifts. 18 Instead, you are to eat them in the presence of the LORD your God at the place the LORD your God will choose-you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maidservants, and the Levites from your towns-and you are to rejoice before the LORD your God in everything you put your hand to. 19 Be careful not to neglect the Levites as long as you live in your land.
 
Amos 4:4-5 (NIV) 4 “Go to Bethel and sin; go to Gilgal and sin yet more. Bring your sacrifices every morning, your tithes every three years. 5 Burn leavened bread as a thank offering and brag about your freewill offerings- boast about them, you Israelites, for this is what you love to do,” declares the Sovereign LORD.
 
Heb.7:1 For this Melchisidec, King of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;. . . 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
 
 In Genesis chapter 14, Abraham goes out to rescue his nephew Lot, who along with many others has been kidnapped. The kidnappers had ransacked the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot lived, and were on their way back to their own cities. Abraham took 318 servants with him, (boy was he rich), and rescued Lot’s family. He also took from the kidnappers all the loot they had obtained during their raids. After restoring the personal property of the residents of Sodom, he gave 10% of the loot to Melchisidec. This time, and this time only, are we ever told that Abraham pays tithes to anyone. There is no mention that he went home to round up 10% of the goods he had there, and anyone who could produce his own 318 man army was not poor. We are nowhere told that Abraham ever paid tithes on any of his income again. If Abraham establishes a law for Christians regarding tithing, then if you give away 10% of your next windfall, you have imitated Abraham. The purpose of Hebrews chapter 7 is not to establish a law of tithing, but to show how Jesus Christ was foreshadowed in symbols and figures throughout the Old Testament.
 
(Gen 28:21 KJV)  So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:  Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee” (Gen.28:22).
 
We can presume from these words, that Jacob did, from that point, give the tenth to God: but to whom did he give it? How did he give it to God? There were no “clergymen” around to collect these tithes, and neither was there a Temple to bring them to. Perhaps Jacob gave these tithes to the poor; perhaps they were consumed in offerings by fire, but one thing is for sure: these tithes were not going into someone’s “storehouse”. Note: this was not a command to Jacob from God, but a vow made by Jacob to God. The antiquity of any practice does not make it a law for the Church.
 

 

 

 

 

Matt. 23: 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise, and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ye ought to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides! which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
 
It is obvious that the Lord Jesus told the Jews, the Pharisees specially  to not neglect paying the obligatory  tithe and next asa  a reflection of His judgment on them: in that they were not of His sheep. It was characteristic of Our Lord Jesus to encourage the self righteous in their works, and even to increase the requirement, so as to show them that they were not made righteous by these works.
 
Let’s look at again the few  New Testament supposedly applicable verses on tithing.
 
(1 Cor 16:2 KJV)  Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3  And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
 
The percentage amount of the individual’s donation firstly is not specified here  though, not even even implied not even  the old testament standard of 10  percent of one’s income or the amount  to be given to the poor persons. Now  why is that?
 
EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SOME PERSONS LIED  ABOUT THEIR THEIR TITHES, INCOMES
(Acts 5:3 KJV)  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?  4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Coming back to the Old Testament verses also  on tithing..
“There were several types of tithes, according to the source of Israelites’ income: the tithes from the land (seed and fruit) and the tithes from the domestic animals (flock and herd). In other words, God HAD expected His people to set aside one tenth of all increase (income).”
 
(Exo 34:26 KJV)  The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
 
(Exo 23:16 KJV)  And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.
 
(Lev 23:10 KJV)  Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
 
(Num 28:26 KJV)  Also in the day of the firstfruits, when ye bring a new meat offering unto the LORD, after your weeks be out, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work:
 
(Deu 26:10 KJV)  And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God:
 
(2 Chr 31:5 KJV)  And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
 
(Neh 10:35 KJV)  And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD:
 
(Neh 10:37 KJV)  And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
  
(Prov 3:9 KJV)  Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
 
(Ezek 20:40 KJV)  For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.
 
(Ezek 44:30 KJV)  And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest’s: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house.
In Reality..
 
“God’s people OF THE OLD TESTAMENT and note this in the book of acts, New Testament too,  practiced Sharing, the Jews practiced  between the Israelites who received their inheritance from God (the land) and with those who did not posses such inheritance – Levites, strangers, orphans, and widows. If we examine the figures, the number of Israelites versus the number of Levites and the percentage that the Israelites were to give to the Levites and the poor (one third of 10%),( about 19% percent of the tithe)  we will find that each would end up with an equal share. This is the principle that was observed in the distribution of manna: one who gathered much had nothing left over and the one who gathered little had no lack.  Sharing was the community coming together with their families/neighbors and sharing in the atmosphere of joy and celebration before the Lord. ”
 
(Lev 27:30 KJV)  And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD.
The tithe always  is God’s not the churches, pastor’s, priests, etc.,
(Lev 27:32 KJV)  And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
(Num 18:26 KJV)  Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.
(Deu 14:22 KJV)  Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
(2 Chr 31:5 KJV)  And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
(2 Chr 31:6 KJV)  And concerning the children of Israel and Judah, that dwelt in the cities of Judah, they also brought in the tithe of oxen and sheep, and the tithe of holy things which were consecrated unto the LORD their God, and laid them by heaps.
(Neh 13:12 KJV)  Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.
(Lev 27:31 KJV)  And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
(Num 18:24 KJV)  But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
(Num 18:26 KJV)  Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the  LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.
(Num 18:28 KJV)  Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and ye shall give thereof the LORD’S heave offering to Aaron the priest.
(Deu 12:6 KJV)  And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
(Deu 12:11 KJV)  Then there shall be a place which the LORD your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the LORD:
(Deu 26:12 KJV)  When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
(2 Chr 31:12 KJV)  And brought in the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler, and Shimei his brother was the next.
(Neh 10:37 KJV)  And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
(Neh 10:38 KJV)  And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure  house.
(Neh 12:44 KJV)  And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited.
(Neh 13:5 KJV)  And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.
(Amos 4:4 KJV)  Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:
(Mal 3:8 KJV)  Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 10  Bring ye all ( all )  the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat ( note this food for the workers was the purpose of the tithe) in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
 
And still  coming back to the Old Testament you are to give all of the tithe to God, all of the tithe, all of  of it belongs to him, and you next gave  1/7 of this tithe to the local poor people, and the balance of the tithe was to go 100 percent to the support of of the Christian workers and their families. Not to any building programs, loans, mortgages..
 
Note this  that  none cent of the tithe,  not one cent  of the tithe, now still  was to go to the temple upkeep, or to the mortgages, building funds.. for there were other specific  offerings to be collected for this..  Is this than also  being practiced by the PAOC today? No! and why not if tithing is applicable today in full?
 
Now some Pentecostal churches do try to even make you sign an   agreement that you will give ten percent of your tithes to their church and they will let you next become a member of their church..   and in my own wittiness some of these PAOC pastors, elders, tithers of these churches committed tax evasions, even stole some of the monies , are and were mostly materialistic oriented and not spiritual too.
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Basically enforced tithing, like circumcision,  is an Old testament Law and thus is not really fully enforced in the  New Testament.. for in the New Testament you give to God of yourself, all of it, and next all of your money.. all of it belongs to God and He God spends it the way He God wants.. (1 Cor 16:1 KJV)  Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
 
The New Testament city Churches supported the  poor people even  in  the local city church unlike most PAOC Churches today. And now too  many people, pastors, elders do steal from all of God’s money today in reality as I myself have too often witnessed in churches too and thus  they are still thieves.
 
(1 Cor 10:24 KJV)  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth. and that means caring about their physical well being now as well.
(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
(Rom 15:25 KJV)  But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. 27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.
(Isa 58:6 KJV)  Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7  Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
(Dan 4:27 KJV)  Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
(Mat 10:42 KJV)  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Mat 25:37 KJV)  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 
Here AGAIN are a few basic facts, truths from the Bible that need also to be considered.The “tithe” itself  is reserved for certain functions, persons now as well.. and no man can still  force any one to tithe. The message of Jesus is that God is not in need of money but of a humble, sacrificial spirit.
 
(Mat 17:24 KJV)  And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26  Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?  Acts 5:4
(2 Cor 9:7 KJV)  Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8  And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work: 8 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his  righteousness remaineth for ever.`10   Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
 
Furthermore only the persons who did not own any land, a house  the Old Testament Levites, the poor enjoyed the benefits of the third year  tithes
Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites
 
At least up to 19 % of the Biblical tithe was to be given directly to the local poor persons

Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied
 
Deuteronomy 14: 27 And do not neglect the Levites  living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
 
10 percent of  tithe only was paid directly to the storehouse and only every 3rd year?
Neh. 10:37-38 “.to bring the firstfruits. and to bring the tithes of our land to the Levites, for the Levites should receive the tithes in all our farming communities. And the priest, the descendant of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes; and the Levites shall bring up a tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the rooms of the storehouse.”
 
and the other two years the tither and his family enjoyed the tithes  by even feasting on it.The people of Israel were required to assemble three times a year at Jerusalem (as the place chosen by the Lord) for the major feasts.
 
(Deu 12:17 KJV)  Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
(Deu 14:23 KJV)  And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God  always.
 
The Israelite was not commanded to tithe on everything he obtained and used throughout the year, but only on his increase at the end of the year. ( The increase minus his actual expenditures during the year, or the final year  end profit?)
 
Deut.14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
 
“Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this,” says the Lord of hosts, “if I will not open for you the windows of heaven, and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows” (Malachi 3:10).
 
There were four tithes in Israel under the Old Covenant. Which one is referred to here?
And the priest, the son of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes, and the Levites shall bring up the tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the chambers of the storehouse (Nehemiah 10:38).
  
The Mosaic Law of Tithing was never 10% of everything you get.
 
The Temple (now considered to be the church-house) did not receive all of the tithes that were given by the Israelites.
 
Tithing was neither commanded nor fully observed in the early church.
 
Tithing as a covenant of prosperity is effective only for those who seek to be justified by keeping all of  the Law which is not possible anyway.
 
Those who demand 10% of everything you get, are identified with the Scribes and the Pharisees, who were still the historic enemies of Christ.
 
(Heb 13:5 KJV)  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.6  So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
 
(Mark 9:41 KJV)  For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
 
Please ALSO do not get any false impression that I am against voluntary tithing to the Lord Jesus Christ, or voluntary giving to the Lord Jesus Christ, AND to the poor persons.
 
I am against THE THIEVES WHO STEAL TITHING UNDER FALSE PRETENCES, FALSE PREACHING, or those persons trying to earn, buy their way into heaven, and also  thier now giving on the too often false man defined  mandates that the still mostly false pastors themselves do define it.. and
 
The fact that at least 60 percent of the evangelical pastors I have dealt with are very inadequate, even rather mere hirelings who lie, slander, abuse others, gossip,  cheat, steal, commit tax evasions, tolerate divorce wrongfully etc, and do not really follow after the Lord.
 
We need to have a better biblical  account of how the Lord’s money is spent.
 
(Rom 15:1 KJV)  We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
 
(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
(Mat 7:16 KJV)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 
(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. Phil. 1:11
  
I know for a fact also that  Robbing God of his tithes, misappropriating them and denying the poor their portion of the tithes devastates a church as well.
  
(Luke 19:46 KJV)  Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.
 
The perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers abound even in PAOC churches. It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, idolterers persons, who mainly  tithe to get richer and not rather to help the poor persons,  for they do  generally as well despise the poor and needy persons, covet to be rich they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, and their behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the religious persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers,  while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons  still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth. they mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisitions and they will cast out, sell out their poor  relatives, relationships still too..  but they still will even profess to be good persons now too. and try to by their way into heaven.
 
(Mat 25:34 KJV)   Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
 
(James 2:1 KJV)  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8  If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9  But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
 
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV)  But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
(Jer 2:20 KJV)  For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.
  
(Prov 29:14 KJV)  The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.
 
The twisting of scriptures, taking isolated verses to justify immoral acts is so common these days even in the conservative evangelical . PAOC circles so that it is not even funny anymore.
 
A BAD PASTORAL BOARD, COUNSEL OR A BAD BOARD, COMMITTEE OF THIEVES? WHOSE TAX EXEMPTION PRIVILEGES CLEARLY RATHER SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, THE PAOC INCLUDED.
 
For example : A clearly greedy, misery, cheap, evangelical writer was wrongfully trying to justify his not giving of his income to any others, the poor people with the isolated Bible verses.. (Exo 20:17 KJV)  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. OR (Acts 5:4 KJV)  Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? 
 
AND he had falsely neglected the other verses of the bible that said to give to the poor and needy persons. 
 
So I prayed and I asked God directly what he thought of it .. and he immediately replied to me.. (Luke 6:38 KJV)  Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
 
(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
(Luke 19:8 KJV)  And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
  
(Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
 
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. 4  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. 5  Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers;  6 Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church: 
  
(1 John 2:10 KJV)  He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
 
 
(Gal 5:16 KJV)  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh 17   For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
 
(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17   And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
 
(Phil 4:11 KJV)  Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13   I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. 14  Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
 
(1 Tim 6:9 KJV)  But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11   But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. 
 
 (Deu 24:14 KJV)  Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates: 15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.
 
(Rom 13:9 KJV)  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
  
(1 Tim 6:8 KJV)  And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
 
(Heb 13:5 KJV)  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
 
(Mat 6:19 KJV)  19  Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20  But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21  For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.  23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27  Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. 
  
(John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
 
One of the most quoted verses for blessing, prosperity of the New Testament is also too often taken out of it’s context..
  
the New testament content too is any financial blessing we get is to help our Christian brothers and sisters financially as well.. not solely indulging in ourselves too
 
(Deu 26:9 KJV)  And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10 And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God: 11 And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which the LORD thy God hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
THERE IS ONLY ONE BIBLE, ONE FAITH FOR PERSONAL SALVATION , ONE FAITH  IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE, AND ONE BODY OF CHRIST, ONE GOD, AND ONE TEMPLE,  IT IS THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS THE CHRIST.
(Gen 28:21-22 KJV)  So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:  Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee”    FIRSTLY WAS A FREE WILL CHOICE..
 
I also rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  selling the gospel, any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed   for sale too or begging, asking for money .  . Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should all live by faith in God to supply our needs, and to have the faith for God to supply  it.  The Honorable Rev George Muellar did. 
 
Please do See also
http://pbulow.tripod.com/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/richpoor.html  
http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html 
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/is-it-true-or-false/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/
 

God’s package through Jesus is very comprehensive.. it includes personal salvation, eternal life, full forgiveness of sins, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, healing too.. why do so many people only want to accept a part of it now too? So many people also do want to be made whole, well, but they do not want Jesus as their Lord in their life.. sorry that is not possible.. Jesus is the whole life, he is also the essential, only part of the whole healing. Jesus not only heals gradually, even by Doctors but also fully miraculously even today. Jesus can always do what Doctors cannot.

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/god-can-do-a-lot-more-than-just-heal/

 

(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

 

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February 8, 2009

Alive, alive my Jesus is alive for evermore

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: beginning and the end, bright morning star, chief shepherd, Coming King, deliverer, first and the last, healer, Jesus Christ, king of kings, Lamb of God, Lion of the Tribe of Judah, lord, lord of lords, Messiah, only wise God, our love, our righteousness, Savior, the alpha and omega, word of God — thenonconformer @ 8:42 pm
Alive, alive my Jesus is alive for evermore and he has commanded me to preach the full, whole Gospel, not the partial, disstorted Gospel of Jesus Christ and the apostles, but the full, healing, delivering one.
 
That of Jesus Christ is Lord, Savior, Healer, Coming King, messiah , deliverer, the word of God, the chief shepherd, the lamb of God., the king of kings, the bright morning star, our love, our righteousness, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah ,the first and the last, the beginning and the end, the alpha and omega, the only wise God, lord of lords, the Friend, Closer than a Brother, the mediator, the judge, the blessed hope, sanctifier, giver of the holy spirit, giver of spiritual gifts, the first born of the dead, the head of the body, the fullness of God, justifier, the holy one of God, the miracle workers, the servant of God,   restorer, rebuilder,  the Cleansing Fountain, the Bridegroom , the burden bearer, the seed of a women, the church of God, the high priest, the prophet, our refuge, living water, our captain, Our chief, our commander, Our wisdom, our mind, the faithful one.
 
  “He is despised, and left of men, A man of pains, and acquainted with sickness, And as one hiding the face from us, He is despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely our sicknesses he hath borne, And our pains — he hath carried them, And we — we have esteemed him plagued, Smitten of God, and afflicted. And he is pierced for our transgressions, Bruised for our iniquities, The chastisement of our peace [is] on him, And by his bruise there is healing to us.” -Isaiah 53:3-5; Young’s Literal Translation
 
And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house, he saw his wife’s mother laid, and sick of a fever. And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them. When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses. -Matthew 8:14-17
 
Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle’s. Psalm 103:1-5
 
Once the Spirit of him who raised Christ Jesus from the dead lives within you he will, by that same Spirit, bring to your whole being, yes, even your mortal bodies, new strength and vitality. For he now lives in you. -Romans 8:11; The New Testament In Modern English by J.B. Phillips
 
“let not your heart be troubled…believe in God” (John 14:1).”
 
“And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ” 1  Thessalonians 5:23  
 
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. John 14:12
  
 
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November 25, 2008

The essential Christian truths

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: AOG, apostasy, Baptists, Bible, Born again, Brethren, Catholic, Christian, Christianity, church, churches, Daystar, Deacons, Dispensationalist, Elders, Evangelicals, false prophets, False Teachers, God, Heresies, Heretic, Heretics, Holy Spirit, Imposters, Jesus, Jesus Christ, Jesus is Lord, Lutheran, Messiah, Pastors, Pentecostals, Plymouth Brethren, pretenders, Reformed, religion, Spirt Filled, teachers, the Word — thenonconformer @ 6:54 pm
 Personal depression is also related to having a God shaped vacuum in our own life, and from deviating from God, his words in the Bible, God’s will and plan for our life too. 
 
- God is the center of the Universe, and not any man, mankind. Man’s sin includes falsely still doing his own thing, following after mere men instead of God.
 
- The Bible is the word of God, is God’s complete truth, it is all inspired, written by God himself, and it is still teaches us filly God’s truths that we must know, follow, practice today as well.
 
- Jesus is God and he undeniably loves each one of us that he died for our sins so we can accept his forgiveness and be with him in Heaven. Everyone can be solely saved by Jesus Christ alone, Jews included, and there is no other way a person can be saved from hell.
 
- The Holy Spirit is  a person, the sprit of Jesus Christ, and whether some admit it or not, like it or not his gifts are all in operation today including the gift of prophecy, speaking in tongues, interpretation of tongues, healing, deliverance as well. The Holy sprit is given to us to help each one of us personal walk in reality the Christian life.
 
- God does and can speak to us also outside of the Bible as well, he through His son Jesus, the Holy Spirit leads and guides us personally too, and we all can and must learn how to listen to, hear  his voice.
 
- Prayer is an essential ongoing aspect of God’s will for each one of us, we must give God permission to act here on earth and in our life, and we all must personally seek, follow, get to now  know his ongoing  will for each one us as well.
 
- A daily quite time, Biblical devotions and prayer is a must for every person.
 
- We have a responsibility to share the good news with others, and  to look after our own family, as well as to help the poor and needy persons as well.
 
- There’s only one place we all can be saved, and that is  here on earth for  after death  it is too late for everyone to be saved.
 
- All sin is still an affront against God and each sin must be daily, continually admitted, repented, turned from  as well, including cheating, lying, stealing, adultery, fornication, alcoholism, drunkenness, divorce, abusing ourselves and others too.
 
- God is not mocked, in spite of His grace of forgiveness, next what a person continues to willfully, deliberately sow, do wrong as well, they next will also reap here on earth and elsewhere.
 
- Jesus Christ alone is till the head of the Church and not any man, pastor, elder, priests, apostle, prophet.
 
do see also http://pbulow.tripod.com/  
 
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November 15, 2008

How many real Christians now do..

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: apostasy, Baptists, Bible, Born again, Brethren, Christian, Christianity, church, churches, Daystar, Deacons, Dispensationalist, Elders, Evangelicals, false, false prophets, False Teachers, God, Heresies, Heretic, Heretics, Holy Spirit, Imposters, Jesus, Jesus Christ, Messiah, Pastors, Pentecostals, Plymouth Brethren, pretenders, Reformed, religion, Spirt Filled, teachers, the Word — thenonconformer @ 8:12 am
 
 
 I often see on search engines questions such as how many Christians practice abortion,  divorce, adultery, have premarital sex, or take drugs, drink wine or alcohol, or  whatever?
 
as if the searcher still does not understand that there is a real difference now between a real born again Christian  and merely a false, lip service professing Christian ..
 
Being born into a Christian family, being even baptized with water in a church, becoming a member of a church, giving money to the church, reading the Bible, praying , or  attending a Christian Church, or whatever does not make you a Christian still too
 
and there is no such thing as a little but pregnant, and the same applies to being a Christian, for you are either a real Christian, or your are not, you are merely a pretender, imposter or what ever to…
 
 

 In reality less than 30 percent of persons who go to a Christian churches are actual genuine, born again, real Christians still these days too.

 
(John 3:5 KJV)  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7   Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
 
(1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11   And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God
 
 
-and  as per  does God answer prayers of non-Christian, but WELL FIRSTLY GOD DOESN’T EVEN ANSWER ALL THE PRAYERS OF THE CHRISTIANS NOW , even because one’s  prayers being answered are often conditional , even as to our own genuine repentance,, admitting, renouncing, confessing our sins, and as to how you still  do treat God, the Bible the Holy Spirit,  others, your spouse too…
 
and so is the prophetic outcome for the Nation’s and personal economy, For God blesses the righteous and not the still wicked persons.
 
(Gen 18:23 KJV)  And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24   Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
 
(Gen 18:25 KJV)  That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
 
(1 Ki 8:32 KJV)  Then hear thou in heaven, and do, and judge thy servants, condemning the wicked, to bring his way upon his head; and justifying the righteous, to give him according to his righteousness.
 
(2 Chr 6:23 KJV)  Then hear thou from heaven, and do, and judge thy servants, by requiting the wicked, by recompensing his way upon his own head; and by justifying the righteous, by giving him according to his righteousness.
 
(Job 17:9 KJV)  The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger.
 
(Psa 1:5 KJV)  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
 
(Psa 1:6 KJV)  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
 
(Psa 5:12 KJV)  For thou, LORD, wilt bless the righteous; with favour wilt thou compass him as with a shield.
 
(Psa 7:11 KJV)  God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
 
(Psa 11:5 KJV)  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
 
(Psa 11:7 KJV)  For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
 
(Psa 14:5 KJV)  There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.
 
(Psa 34:15 KJV)  The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.
 
(Psa 34:17 KJV)  The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.
 
(Psa 34:19 KJV)  Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.
 
(Psa 34:21 KJV)  Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
 
(Psa 37:17 KJV)  For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
 
(Psa 37:25 KJV)  I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
 
(Psa 37:29 KJV)  The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
 
(Psa 37:30 KJV)  The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
 
(Psa 37:39 KJV)  But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
 
(Psa 55:22 KJV)  Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
 
(Psa 58:10 KJV)  The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
 
(Psa 58:11 KJV)  So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.
 
(Psa 69:28 KJV)  Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.
 
(Psa 118:15 KJV)  The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
 
(Psa 125:3 KJV)  For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; lest the righteous put forth their hands unto iniquity.
 
(Prov 2:20 KJV)  That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.
 
(Prov 10:3 KJV)  The LORD will not suffer the soul of the righteous to famish: but he casteth away the substance of the wicked.
 
(Prov 10:16 KJV)  The labour of the righteous tendeth to life: the fruit of the wicked to sin.
 
(Prov 10:25 KJV)  As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation.
 
(Prov 10:28 KJV)  The hope of the righteous shall be gladness: but the expectation of the wicked shall perish.
 
(Prov 10:30 KJV)  The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
 
(Prov 11:8 KJV)  The righteous is delivered out of trouble, and the wicked cometh in his stead.
 
(Prov 11:21 KJV)  Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.
 
(Prov 11:23 KJV)  The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.
 
(Prov 11:28 KJV)  He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch.
 
(Prov 11:31 KJV)  Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner.
 
(Prov 12:3 KJV)  A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved.
 
(Prov 12:7 KJV)  The wicked are overthrown, and are not: but the house of the righteous shall stand.
 
(Prov 13:9 KJV)  The light of the righteous rejoiceth: but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out.
 
(Prov 13:21 KJV)  Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repayed.
 
(Prov 13:25 KJV)  The righteous eateth to the satisfying of his soul: but the belly of the wicked shall want.
 
(Prov 14:9 KJV)  Fools make a mock at sin:
 
(Prov 14:19 KJV)  The evil bow before the good; and the wicked at the gates of the righteous.
 
(Prov 14:32 KJV)  The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death.
 
(Prov 15:6 KJV)  In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.
 
(Prov 18:10 KJV)  The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.
 
(Prov 21:12 KJV)  The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.
 
(Isa 3:10 KJV)  Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings.
 
(Ezek 18:20 KJV)  The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
 
(Ezek 18:24 KJV)  But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
 
(Ezek 21:4 KJV)  Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north:
 
(Ezek 33:18 KJV)  When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.
But God still uses sinners, even  for prophets, God saves all repentant sinners but as to can you live in sin and be anointed by Holy Sprit more likely you will be filled with an evil sprit, be demon possessed instead..
 
 
 Living by FAITH in God..
 
(1 Tim 6:17 KJV)  Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
 
(1 Tim 6:18 KJV)  That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
 
(1 Tim 6:19 KJV)  Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
 
(Rom 1:17 KJV)  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
 
(Gal 3:11 KJV)  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
 
(Heb 10:38 KJV)  Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
 
I know for absolute certainty certain events happened solely cause I lived by faith in God.
 
When my daughter Marlene was born I had  bought a nice tape player and I used to play Bible versed songs in her room. When my daughter was born she next shortly was diagnosed as being hydrocephalic, a serious medical condition that seriously threatened HER LIFE, BUT BEFORE SHE WAS TO BE OPERATED ON SHE WAS HEALED, AS DOCTORS HAD SAID, HEALED HERSELF Miraculously.. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html After she had been healed God had said to me he had let her live cause I had put my faith in God and had put the tape player in her room..
 
When I was seriously ill and need major treatment, heart operation God had said to me specially ” I had let you live cause you had served me” and I had often been glad as a result I had served the Lord.
 
I pray when I need finances, cause my bank accounts were always low, caused said he to me he did not keep his money in the bank, and that I was to choose the least likely person to give to me and he would have that person donate on his own, willingly money to me and do it next happened that way too.
 
 
Some people do live by faith in God.. GEORGE MUELLER OF BRISTOL by ARTHUR T. PIERSON Part1    http://mywebpage.netscape.com/InfoNw4/2gm2a.htm   
GEORGE MUELLER OF BRISTOL by ARTHUR T. PIERSON Part 2  
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/InfoNw4/2gm2b.htm  
 

 
“HOW TO ASCERTAIN THE WILL OF GOD
1. I seek at the beginning to get my heart into such a state that it has no will of its own in regard to a given matter. Nine-tenths of the trouble with people generally is just here. Nine-tenths of the difficulties are overcome when our hearts are ready to do the LORD’s will, whatever it may be. When one is truly in this state, it is usually but a little way to the knowledge of what His will is.

2. Having done this, I do not leave the result to feeling or simple impression. If so, I make myself liable to great delusions.

3. I seek the Will of the Spirit of God through, or in connection with, the Word of God. The Spirit and the Word must be combined. If I look to the Spirit alone without the Word, I lay myself open to great delusions also. If the Holy Ghost guides us at all, He will do it according to the Scriptures and never contrary to them.”
George Mueller 1805-1898 –from the classic biography of George Mueller, http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Voice/George.Mueller.of.Bristol/George.Mueller.of.Bristol.html
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Voice/George.Mueller.of.Bristol/George.Mueller.Bristol.N.html#FAITH%20PRAYER%20WORD

 

 
do see also
 
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/christians-cannot-marry-any-non-christians-or-get-divorced/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/favorite-christian-based-reading-resources/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/unfaithful/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-false-divorce-incentives/   
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/
  

 

Now many pastors had lied to me when they said they too lived by faith, while they asked people for money, had a fixed salary, had an additional expense account.. they were lying in these matters.. their faith in God is not living by faith in his will, his provisions but rather falsely demanding God to meet all their needs, wants, desires. lusts.. any way.
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November 12, 2008

as to why some have left their Church

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I have written about this before, if you do not like your church, merely start your own church, most churches historically are splinter, break away groups http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/
 
There are many reasons people still do give for quitting, leaving their church, reasons  even such as ,
 
1: There are too many hypocrites in the church
2: all they want is my money
3: I do not support a one man ministry
4: they only practice a small portion of the Bible, they pick and choose what they like,
5: it is just a cultural, or a social club
6: they kicked me out cause I was poor
7 The Church was imperfect and it reminded me I was imperfect
8 They did not recognize my spiritual gifts or ministry
9 God told me to establish my own church
 
Sadly most Christians still really do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible  personally too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, so they talk about things they really do not know, that they have not experienced, and yes the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too,  but they still love to judge the others but why?Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments. Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches today We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatic, have no foundation of the Holy Spirit in their life. Most believers that I have met have never once read the bible cover to cover. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Nothing could be father from the truth, disobedience and rebellion no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – brings forth eternal death in your soul. (Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15
 
It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it.But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, anointed gifts, so how  can you really honestly judge any of the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..
 
> I LEFT THE TONGUES MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF:
1. Sincere convictions regarding their doctrines, emphases, and practices.
2. An unsound biblical basis for their doctrine of the Holy Spirit.
3. An over-emphasis of one gift of the Holy Spirit.
4. An under-emphasis of other doctrines.
5. Their “experience” orientation.
6. The undermining of the personality of the Holy Spirit.
7. Spiritual pride and disunity produced by their doctrine.
8. The teaching that tongues-speaking is a sign of spirituality and even of salvation.
9. Sign-seeking instead of faith.
10. Questionable activities practiced and condoned.
11. The fear of questioning the so-called activities of the Holy Spirit.
12. The view that the Corinthian church was a model church.
13. The danger of claiming extra-biblical revelation.
14. The excesses and deceptive practices condoned in divine healing campaigns.
15. The tendency to blind, unquestioning devotion to popular leaders.
16. The possibility that the Charismatic Movement will be instrumental in producing the prophesied world ecumenical church of the last days.
17. Their distortion of the true Spirit-filled life.

>Miracles (divine intervention suspending natural law) have ceased (Zech 13:1-4). God is still all-powerful, but he is today working providentially. The miracles of the New Testament were temporary, confirming Jesus was the Christ, and the apostles were his messengers (John 3:2; Acts 1:8). When the New Testament revelation was completed (1 Cor 13:8-10), miracles ceased (Mark 16:19-20; Heb.2:3-4). The New Testament is complete (Jude 3, John 16:13). The word is what we need to guide us (2 Tim 3:160.

>As a Pentecostal, I never saw a miracle like the lame or blind healed or the dead raised. They came unhealed and left unhealed. One of the greatest “miracles” of Pentecostalism was that I did not have the eyes to see the truth (2 Thess 2:9-12), but let the power of suggestion and emotions blind me.

You went to the wrong church, for  I have seen miracles the last 50 decades, real ones and often, and if you humbly seek God and not do your own thing you will find him here on earth, he is all around all of us too.. http://afollowerofchrist.multiply.com/ 

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too. But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead.. So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game? so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is also still reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..
 
Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists too, and many others they also are not Christians- certainly thus not anointed by the Holy Sprit, and not by along shot.. for they had missed out as to who Jesus Christ the Messiah was, and not just who who the Holy Spirit is.. so how can they even be anointed ones.. Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists, others have   a religion yes, but the true religion? certainly not.
 
Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn.. I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too.
do see also
 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 
 

And the answers to the question as to why some have left the church is not more important then as to why some persons have next left their Faith altogether. In my lifetime 50 percent of once loudly professing Christians, like the Apostle Judas left the faith altogether, basically cause God did not give them what they had wanted, hoped, expected initially..  so they no longer had any use  for God..  for they had falsely used   religion  as a mere   tool to advance themselves, or to prosper, or whatever.. and when they did not get what they wanted.. they gave it up on their religion too easily… and generally tend to blame  others for doing so in the process too 

 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof.. 

My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?

If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish cheapskates. True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one hour and pray daily for others. And what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act like real anointed Christians.

I admit there are much too many even crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON often that CHRISTIAN  FIGHTS have  ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).” 

(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Actually the degree of negative personal consequences also are determined as to how quickly you on your own had repented of your major sins, or did Gold almost have to force you into confession of your sins as he did to King David And many People would know that already too had they actually read the Bible as they lying often claim they do too.

Where is the power of God that we see in the Old and New testament Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible? Why do we not see this power.. Is it’s God’s fault or ours rather still?

 Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.

The world is seeking scientists or money. The Church is seeking scholars. But God is seeking his true servant, true believers, true prophets. Most people even professing Christians have not experienced God goodness, power, manifestation, Holy Spirit, His Word too, cause they are too busy still doing their own thing even.
 
(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

 

 

(Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

 

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/fallacies/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 

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November 9, 2008

The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: Air, AOG, apostasy, Assembly of God, Baptism in the Holy Spirit, Bible, Breathe, Brethren, Catholics, Conservatives, Daystar, Dispensationalist, Entire sanctifcation, Evangelicals, fire, God, Heresies, Heretic, Heretics, holiness, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Liberals, light, Lutheran, Messiah, oil, Pentecostals, Plymouth Brethren, Power, Prophecy, prophets, Reformed, Santification, Second Blessing, Sectarian, sects, Sinless, Spirt Filled, The Apostosy, truth, water, wind — thenonconformer @ 11:05 pm
 
The Holy Spirit: Power from on High
 
Power is also a  symbol of the person  of Holy Spirit  (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
The consistent, ongoing Symbols of the Holy Spirit In the Bible  include  Wind, Air, Breathe, fire, water, oil, truth, light, power  as well.
 
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send  in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things  to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. – John 14:26  And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened,  and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him.–Mark 1:10
 
Various symbols are used in the Bible to represent the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, God now  including a dove, wind, light, oil, and fire and others, where  each symbol emphasizes a different, permanent, aspect, attribute  of the same the person of the Holy Spirit. 

The Dove – The Hebrew word for dove is yohnah and is derived from the word anah, meaning, “to mourn,” showing that the name comes from its characteristic mournful coo. The dove was the preferred bird for sacrifice if only one bird was used, and usually mentioned first when both a dove and a pigeon were required. Doves has been called “the sheep of the bird world” because of their gentle disposition. They are noted for their devotion to their mates.  The dove is thus used as a representation of the holy spirit apparently because of its sympathetic nature, compassion for the human race. Jesus by his Holy Spirit   demonstrated   compassion by healings and miraculous feedings of the multitudes, and by his willingness to give the ultimate sacrifice of his own life for mankind’s salvation.

Oil- Note twenty-third psalm says, “Thou anointest my head with oil.”  Isaiah 11:2, “The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, 1) the spirit of wisdom and understanding, 2) the spirit of counsel and might, 3) the spirit of knowledge and 4) of the fear of the LORD.” (See also Exodus 31:3.)-

Individuals were anointed for a specific service, the leaders and  Kings were anointed,   Priests were anointed, Psalm 133:1,2. A Prophet was anointed such as  Elijah was told to anoint Elisha as his successor (1 Kings 19:16). Jesus was anointed. “And Moses took the anointing oil and anointed the tabernacle and all that was therein, and sanctified them. . . . And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron’s head, and anointed him to sanctify him.” − Leviticus 8:10,12  “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek . . . ” − Isaiah 61:1  These two texts show direct close connection between the holy anointing oil and the work of the holy spirit. 

Oil for healing  “Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord” (James 5:14). The word here translated sickness in the next verse is astheneo, and literally means “without strength” and may refer to spiritual depression as well as physical sickness. In verse 15 the word sick is the Greek kamnos and is translated “be wearied” in Hebrews 12:3. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

Oil for medical treatment: “From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness in it, but wounds, and bruises, and putrefying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment” (Isaiah 1:6). The Good Samaritan “bound his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.” When Jesus  sent out the twelve disciples two by two, among other acts they “cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them” (Mark 6:13).

Oil  used as a moisturizer, Soap and toiletries.  . It was with this balm that a woman ministered unto Jesus in the Pharisee’s house. Jesus said, “My head with oil thou didst not anoint; but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment” (Luke 7:46). Likewise the prophet writes, “Then washed I thee with water; yea, I thoroughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil” (Ezekiel 16:9).

Oil   as fuel, source of light (John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.15  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

 
Note the golden lampstand in the holy of the tabernacle (Exodus 35:14). The operation of these lampstands can be seen by comparing Zechariah 4:1-14 with Revelation 11:1,2. In Zechariah the oil for the lampstand’s seven lamps comes from two olive trees, which are identified in Revelation as God’s “two witnesses” (the Old and New Testaments). The seven pipes carrying the oil represent the means of conveying this oil to the lamps, i.e., the seven messengers of Revelation 2 and 3.

The concept of the oil of the Holy Spirit being used for a proper light is also shown in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). There the supply of oil distinguishes the one group from the other. This illustrates how  professing  Christians with a sufficiency of the holy spirit become a part of the  final wedding party with Christ, while those having little or none next do not.   

 
Fire and light are symbols of the Holy spirit again. Fire itself also   signifies  destruction or purging as in the refining of metals. On Pentecost we meet yet another representation of the holy spirit. Along with the sound of a mighty rushing wind “there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them” (Acts 2:3).   (Isa 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
 
Wind is another common symbol of the work, presence of the Holy Spirit.  The Greek and Hebrew words translated “spirit” (pneuma and ruach) are also translated either “wind” or “breath ” Both the words wind and breath are also used in close conjunction with the Holy Spirit himself, as can be seen from these texts:
 
“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a mighty rushing wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting . . . and they were all filled with the holy spirit.” – Acts 2:1,2,4 “And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the holy spirit.” – John 20:22
 
We find, in the original creative process, that the breath of God was the activating force in giving life to Adam: “The LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul” (Genesis 2:7). Likewise it is the spirit that gives life to the true Christian and it is the same spirit that will eventually raise all mankind from the grave and endow them with new life.
 
Thus the distinct aspects of the Holy Spirit are shown by these symbols which picture the functions the holy spirit is to desirably  play in each of our lives:
 
 AND YET WHILE MANY EVEN PREACHERS TALK ABOUT THE HOLY SPRIT THEY HAVE YET TO EVEN TRULY EXPERIENCE HIM PERSONALLY. They Have not been born  even FROM above or anointed  by the breathe of Christ’s spirit. So they talk about him as an “it” rather.. and thus show their void reality.

  ”The spirit breathes where HE  will, and YOU  hear HIS voice, but YOU DO NOT KNOW  FROM WHERE HE CAME , or where he goes; thus it is so with every one who has been born of the spirit” (John 3:8 ).

 
Not everyone next has yet been born from above too. But Ye Must be born again said Jesus to enter Heaven next.

 and what about you have you recieved the anointing of the Holy Spirit in full yet? Never to late to do so as well.

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/who-founded-the-church/

 

“Someone once said ” Lord, fill me daily with your Holy Spirit for I am a leaky vessel. Let us come each day afresh to the Lord for that fresh in filling of the Holy Spirit. That our cup my be over flowing. http://peebles.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/psalm-23-v-5-he-anoints-my-head-with-oil-my-cup-over-flows/

Acts 1 V 8 says “ But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” God wants our lives to be power full for him, with joy in the Holy Spirit, for as the Bible says in Romans 14 v 17 ” For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit “.

We should never take for granted, that we are filled with Gods Holy Spirit. Each and every day, would it not be a good idea to ask the Lord, ” Lord please fill me a fresh with your Holy Spirit, anoint my head again a fresh with the Holy Spirit, fill my cup and let it over flow with the peace, power and joy in the Holy Spirit “. Thank you Jesus.

May the Lord anoint you head with oil, may your cup over flow.”

do see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/wells-still-without-water/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/as-many-as-are-led-by-the-spirit-of-god/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-holy-spirit/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-consistent-ongoing-symbols-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-bible/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/

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