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December 27, 2013

So why do some people falsely push the Rapture?

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The  false Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by  1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/

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So why do some people falsely push the Rapture? Real Bible ignorance firstly.. They have not studied the New Testament prayerfully for themselves but mostly listen to the lies, distortions of others.

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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even. https://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts  on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal  experience they still  have never even had..
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.”  where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial  one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation  is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.”  Which most often is the case. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

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It seems strange to me that the Lord would not reveal, by the Holy Spirit, a teaching which the end-time prophets of today preach as a foundational dogma and a forgone conclusion. Not until 1831 was this “new truth” revealed and not until the 20th century was it popularized. How is it that the Apostles and the Early Fathers overlooked such an important eschatological event? Why is it not clearly spelled out in the Scriptures? The obvious answer is this: THE DOCTRINE KNOWN AS THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH DOES NOT EXIST! Like all other heresies it was and is the invention of men, not the teaching of the Church. Rather than listen to the doctrines of men, let us pay extremely close attention to our Lord’s own words in the Gospels.  When Jesus taught His Apostles about His glorious 2nd coming, these are the words He used: “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:27)”. In the book of Acts, St. Luke tells us that when Jesus ascended into heaven, and the Apostles were gazing upward as the Lord rose among the clouds, two men in white apparel (presumed to be angels) said these words: “Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven (Acts 1:11)”. We are told here in Holy Scripture that exactly in the same way Jesus ascended into heaven He will return to earth. In other words, He will return in the clouds in the sky. That description doesn’t sound like a “secret catching away” but rather a dynamic 2nd coming!  To be sure, there will be a catching away of the saints on earth but this happens at the last trumpet sound (Revelation 11:15). Writing to the Christians in Thessalonica, St. Paul tells us what the 2nd coming (Greek- parousia) is like. “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore, comfort one another with these words (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)”. The same words are used here to describe the catching up of Christians as is used to describe the 2nd coming of the Lord. Both occur in the clouds, in the air, and everyone on earth sees it happen. In other words, the so-called Rapture and the 2nd coming of Christ will happen at the same time.
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Perhaps the most vivid picture of our Lord’s 2nd coming to earth is found in the words of St. John the Apostle. In the book of Revelation he writes: “Behold, He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, amen (Revelation 1:7)”. Far from believing that the Lord will return “secretly” to rapture the Church 7 years before His 2nd coming, St. John says that every human being on earth will see the Lord descend from the clouds. Once again, here are the words of the Nicene Creed, the symbol and statement of faith for all Christians: “He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kindgom shall have no end.” The 2nd coming of our Lord Jesus Christ shall be in glory, not in secret. Then the Prince of Peace shall establish true peace, joy, and righteousness on the earth; “For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea (Habakkuk 2:14)”.

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Most dispensationalists still do   take isolated verse and twist them to suit what they want others to believe still especially the false Dispensationalists http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

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Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies of  Israel and the Church. It also unacceptably tries falsely to explain away  the relevance of the gifts of the holy spirit today.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the   HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.  Evangelical Dispensationalists do also still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, following the teaching of men, an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

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I am   aware of the fact John Darby and Cyrus Scofield have led many saints into such a mess, that it’s become the tool for a Brethren cult too! Some persons do preach, write out of their guilty, to compensate for the related emptiness they are feeling, while others write because they are ambitious, they write out of seeking fame, their seeking a place of prominence.. many are just lead by the devil too.

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The Second Advent of our Messiah Jesus Christ is in fact Biblically sound Doctrine, it will happen!  However, the Rapture theory fabricates a pre-Second Advent advent, which is not in the Bible. In essence, what they have done is that they have made three advents out of the true two Advents of Jesus Christ as found in among other places, {Zech 9:9+10}.  It is a falsehood created by man and added to God’s Word.  In this Bible study we will thoroughly debunk the Rapture lie and explain not only it’s dubious origins, but also it’s cause and effect, and the extreme danger that such a false doctrine poses for God’s children. The rapture, often called “the blessed hope,” is sadly more hoax than hope,  For such a seemingly major doctrine, one might expect a weighty argument, but this is what is offered in The Scofield Bible’s Reference Notes (1917 Edition): “…’caught up’—Not church saints only, but all bodies of the saved [that is, not only the living, but also the dead], of whatever dispensation, are included in the first resurrection… [It] is peculiarly the ‘blessed hope’ of the Church (cf)  This offers surprisingly little information, considering how many accept the rapture doctrine based upon these notes. Additionally, all of the references he cited are about Christ’s return and the believer’s need to be ready for that event. None of them speak of a “near return” by Christ to snatch away believers.

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Some rapturists today cite Acts 8:39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.   saying it uses the same Greek word that is translated “caught up” in 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.   They say that the fact the Spirit of God “caught [Philip] away” shows that 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. means that the saints are caught away to heaven. Yet the Spirit did not transport Philip to heaven, but rather from one place on the earth to another.

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The Rapture ‘doctors’ (those who create, fabricate, and perpetuate the many different Rapture theories) have searched the Bible over and have found a finite number of Scriptures that they were able to pull violently out of context, twist and mould, reshape and join unnaturally one to the other until they have formed a new product, a new doctrine, seemingly supported by Biblical Scripture, but in reality nothing more than satan’s ‘house of cards,’ built on a foundation of sand, a perversion of God’s true end-time plan.   Any claim of any verse verses  being  about snatched away to heaven takes incredible license, distortions  with the Bible.

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The Rapture doctrine is dangerous because it teaches Christians that they will be spared all tribulation, wrath, and danger in the last days. The need for urgent preparation of one’s heart and soul is diminished because Christians will be secretly taken away from all that pain. No need to worry, we’ll just fly away. Unlike the Early Christians, most of whom were murdered by this world’s authorities, the end-time Christians have a get-out-of-tribulation free card called the Rapture. Remember the words of St. Paul, “All those who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution (2 Timothy 2:12).” And lastly, the words of the Lord in John 16:33, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in Me you might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

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The Rapture Theory; What Does God’s Word Say About It?   http://biblestudysite.com/rapture.htm

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Rapture? not such thing even.. http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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Hal Lindsey the typical evangelical hireling, a self-proclaimed “Father of the Modern Day False Prophecy Movement,” popularized the false eschatology doctrines of most dispensationalists. His books have influenced thousands of preachers, teachers and laymen leading them astray in the subject of eschatology. Hal has also been a leader in coercing believers into supporting a false religion (Babylonian Talmudic Judaism), and a nation (Israel) that oppresses nearly half of its citizens (Palestinians). Like most men who have acquired great wealth, prestige and influence he has spent a good deal of time chasing women. His third wife and church gave him the boot for his sexcapades.  For detailed proof of his false prophecies and teachings go to — haLUNACY

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All they care about is inspiring people to idolize Israel and the almighty Jews. Is your church stupid? It is if you support Israel. You are IGNORANT of the Scriptures my friend if you think God blesses Christians who support a wicked, Christ-rejecting people. The idolizing and worshipping of Jerusalem, Israel and the Jews is evil in the sight of God.   http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Zionism/israel_idolatry.htm

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If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not even any personal, social, community relationships, acts. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

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Do see also

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/good.html

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

 http://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/davis-nord_dd_01.html

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