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May 29, 2009

Fallacies

Filed under: Christianity — Tags: , , , , , , , — thenonconformer @ 1:57 pm
 
Fallacy-“If you got nothing good to say close your mouth and don’t say it.” vs. (1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.21  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.(Prov 27:6 KJV)  Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
 
(Acts 17:11 KJV)  These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
 
The Fallacies of one man ministry also is that it tends to not only lead to,  makes  nonfunctioning elders and deacons, but  it puts a significant, abnormal, unbearable  pressure on the Senior pastor.
 
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 
 
(Jer 17:16 KJV)  As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee.
 
(Jer 2:8 KJV)  The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.
 
(Jer 3:15 KJV)  And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
 
(Jer 10:21 KJV)  For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
 
(Jer 12:10 KJV)  Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.
 
(Jer 22:22 KJV)  The wind shall eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness.
 
(Jer 23:1 KJV)  Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
 
(Jer 23:2 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
 
(Eph 4:11 KJV)  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
 
the only singular reference to the term pastor in the New Testament is also a plural one…
 
and a pastor is not the only senior church office now too. 

The secret for revival praying is actually praying. As many good pastors have found they can have a revival in their own  church services, from the lifeless services, to live Holy Spirit anointed services by having a prayer team regularly pray for one hour before each of the services. Praying that God would be manifested, glorified, bring all men unto Him in th services. It would be preferable but not mandatory if the pastor himself would attend such prayer meetings.

(Mat 26:40 KJV)   What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

(Mat 26:41 KJV)  Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

  Reminds me where in the Bible does it say that the Pastor is the head of the local church?  Rather Jesus Christ still is the chief shepherd of the flock and the sole owner as well. Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says firstly, not even many preachers. Never mind practsing it.  Explains to me why so many of tjhem have a problem with adultery, alcohol, pornography these days as well.

 I have written about this before, if you do not like your church, merely start your own church, most churches historically are splinter, break away groups  https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/as-to-why-some-have-left-their-church/  

I admit there are much too many even crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON often that CHRISTIAN  FIGHTS have  ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

 

 

 

LET ME TELL YOU FIRSTLY THAT STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP YOU CAN HAVE DAILY IS NOT AT ALL WITH YOUR LOCAL CHURCH, DENOMINATION BUT RATHER WITH GOD, JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, REPENTANCE….. AND HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW?

 

PSALM 13: 5  But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.  6  I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
 

Heavenly Father I pray that you will help all, all of the persons involved to look up to you, to trust in you alone firstly to supply all of their needs, to help them and not in any person wrongfully as well. Supply the poor people what they need through the persons  of your choice, not ours and through your means not ours..

(James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

 

(Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
 
(1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV)    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6  Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
 
 
God Bless you.
 
 
 
“Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant  and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews  only).  Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws;  but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in  the believer s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than  law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament.  It is known as the grace of giving ; The gauge or rule of this  systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing.  All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to  God  ( ? ) – THE PAOC  The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is  a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking ”
 
 THE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO ENFORCE TITHING today, 10 percent of all of your income to be given to the local storehouse pastors, AS AN APPLICABLE MINIMUM GIVING STANDARD IN THE CHURCH ARE LYING, intentionally or unintentionally even if they are the PAOC too.  Jesus today wants all of you, everything you own, not just the 10 percent,  to be fully under his control, a living sacrifice to God and that includes your body, soul and spirit and all of your money now as well. All of it. Deny yourself, Take up your cross and follow him   

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